[Shotimes] Eibach springs with stock struts?

[Carl Prochilo]

You're making my head hurt.  

But yes, Tokico/Eibachs do work well together which is what's on this car.

PS.  Looks like Shotimes at your post as I never received it there.
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Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
1992 Ultra Red Crimson
 
---- Zach Leahy <leahyz@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Ah, spring-mass-damper systems...  
> 
> ya'll take differential equation in college?
> 
> it's a second order (ax'+bx+c=0) system and you are changing some of
> the terms by changing the springs.  Particularly you have affected the
> 'b' term in the equation.  Now, without having real numbers to work
> with, I would say that you probablt don't want to make b larger
> without making a larger as well.
> 
> In real world terms, the spring creates more force now, and the
> dampener (if as stiff, or potentially less) cannot counter the higher
> foces (bx) that the spring generated.  the end result is an
> ocillation, and a quesy feeling, and jokes about hydraulics.  I would
> say that you need to increase the dampener effect in front.  I think a
> good approach would be to look at how stiff these are compared to what
> came out, and what possiblilites you have, and then select something
> with better damping force.
> 
> Z
> 
> PS, i use an eibach/tokico setup on all 4 corners and find it quite good.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:11:52 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Carl
> Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org> wrote:
> > Dave, I recently replaced the worn Tokico strut inserts in my 92.  What
> > was happening is that when going over speed bumps or hitting a dip in the
> > road, the front of the car would undulate 2 or 3 times before it would
> > settle down.  Very disturbing.  After I replaced the strut inserts, that
> > same dip in the road has the front of the oscillate once and stops.
> > 
> > So based on your description, if the car bounces excessively, and you feel
> > the struts themselves are in good working order, then they most likely
> > don't have enough dampening force to compensate for the progressive rate
> > Eibach springs.
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Carl Prochilo
> > 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> > 
> > On Wed, February 23, 2005 9:30 am, Dave Garber said:
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > I've got a question concerning struts. My car is currently running
> > > Eibach springs with GR-2 struts. The car rides like a school bus (the
> > > front end bounces like crazy!) and I was thinking about going to a stock
> > > Motorcraft strut. Now, I've heard that the car rides like this because
> > > of the Eibach springs, as the GR-2's are essentially a stock replacement
> > > strut. Is this true? Would new Motorcraft struts with the Eibach's ride
> > > like this? I mean, this thing bounces so much that I've had a guy ask me
> > > if I have hydraulics on the car! It's the worst riding car I've ever
> > > owned!
> > >
> > > I should note that the rear of the car rides great. It's just the front
> > > end. It literally bounces almost non-stop on anything other than
> > > perfectly flat roads. You start to get used to it after a while, but
> > > then I'll hop in my 99 and realize just how BAD the 94 really is. I find
> > > it hard to believe that this is simply the result of running slightly
> > > stiffer springs on a stock style strut. I think it's more likely that
> > > these GR-2's just suck (at least the fronts. they are made in China, and
> > > the rears are made in Italy). Anyone have any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Garber
> > > Pittsburgh, PA
> > > 99 White, 79k
> > > 94 Blue MTX, 191k
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