[Shotimes] Eibach springs with stock struts?

[Donald Mallinson]

Eibach's with Koni's is a great combination that I have run 
on my '89 for several years.

I have Tokico's with stock springs on the '91 and that works 
great, a bit firm at first, but it will loosen a little as 
the Tokico's wear in.

Personally, the Eibach/Koni combo is about perfect, lowers 
the car, but not too much.  Ride remains acceptable and is 
compliant enough to let you keep traction on some bumpy high 
speed road courses/autocross etc, and the springs keep lean 
to a minimum.

Don Mallinson

Jim & Debbie Leyden wrote:

> I agree 100%.  I have Koni's and SHOshop linear springs on my '95 MTX.  That
> HAS to be the worst combination there is.  The car is so low that it scrapes
> on everything and a dip in the road will scrape the front cat.
> I'm watching this thread with interest since I need to replace the
> struts/springs on my '93 MTX.
> I'm considering returning my '95 to bone stock and using some of the parts
> on my wife's '93.  Since she already has Koni's and Eibach's, she doesn't
> need the Koni's from my '95, so I have been thinking of trying the Koni's on
> a set of MOOG Cargo Coil springs for my '93.  Anyone ever tried this
> combination?  Anyone know of the correct spring numbers for a GENII?  I have
> heard different stories about the CC springs.  One person tells me that they
> raise the car waaaayyyy to much.  Another says that you have to use springs
> from a different application to get the correct ride height.
> 
> Jim
> '95 White, back on the road today after getting a clutch and tranny swap at
> FPS.
> '93 Red, still drivable but needs the rear bumper cover and one taillight
> '93 White, still sitting at FPS waiting disposition
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:12 PM
> To: Ron Porter
> Cc: 'Dave Garber'; 'shotimes'
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Eibach springs with stock struts?
> 
> Well,
> If you want to try Koni's and Intrax you can have mine I'd gladly trade 
> for something that does not ride like a semi truck with no suspension 
> under it. Best part is in michigan when it gets cold enough they freeze 
> and you'd better strap your 4 point on and hang on for dear life. I hate 
> that set up.
> Dave
> 
> Ron Porter wrote:
> 
> 
>>Monroes and Gabriels, as well as other stock-replacement-type, are weaker
>>than the GR-2s. The only real stock SHO replacement strut is the Sachs,
> 
> and,
> 
>>as Ian said, the only choices for Eibachs are the Tokicos or Konis (if you
>>want the dampened ride).
>>
>>Due to the track and hard-cornering performance, the GR-2s and Eibachs were
>>(to me) worth less than half the cost of the others, but it's an individual
>>taste issue.....or $$$ available for tem or reuse the old worn-out
>>Tokicos(which the G-2s still outperform).
>>
>>Ron Porter
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dave Garber [mailto:dgarber@servicelinklp.com] 
>>Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:43 PM
>>To: Ron Porter
>>Cc: shotimes
>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Eibach springs with stock struts?
>>
>>I wonder if the Monroe's are even worth trying then. I was hoping that
>>the GR-2's were 'defective' insofar as the rebound dampening goes.
>>Figuring that another brand stock style replacement would be okay
>>relative to rebound rates, it would be worth the small monetary
>>investment to try them out. Maybe not?
>>
>>I have no desire to spend $350.00-$400.00 for Tokico's when all I need
>>is the front-end to stop pogo'ing! Everything suspension-wise is already
>>brand new, so I'd hate to have to rip it apart to fix a bouncing front
>>end..
>>
>>Anyone have any used Koni's/Tokico's they'd part with?
>>
>>
>>
>>Dave 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Porter
>>Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:23 PM
>>To: 'shotimes'
>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Eibach springs with stock struts?
>>
>>The GR-2s are not SHO-replacement struts, SLO only.
>>
>>OTOH, they seem to be more than acceptable on stock SHO springs. I went
>>on Kirk's experience with the Eibachs.
>>
>>Ron Porter
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