[Shotimes] Looking to rejoin the ranks: Q on first gear power

Ian Fisher dataflash@yahoo.com
Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:28:44 -0700 (PDT)


Don
I believe that the 89 has a lighter throttle body
spring than the 91. That's probably why you feel the
difference.

Ian


--- Donald Mallinson <dmall@mwonline.net> wrote:

> David,
> 
> I think you should go for the SHO.   (would anyone
> expect me to say 
> otherwise?).  :)
> 
> About how the car "feels" off the line.  I have an
> '89 SHO and a '91 
> SHO.  The two feel totally different in first gear. 
> The '89 has always 
> felt free and easy, and the '91 feels a tiny bit
> sluggish in comparison, 
> but dyno testing proves that the '91 is making all
> the power it is 
> supposed too.
> 
> So what gives?  I think it is in the gas pedal
> "feel".  The '89 has 
> always felt free and light, where the '91 feels like
> it has 3 times the 
> spring strength, and it doesn't have a linear
> movement.  Kind of feels 
> bound up for the first third, then gets past a point
> and the engine 
> really picks up.
> 
> I have driven a bunch of SHO's and some of them have
> this heavy feeling 
> gas pedal.  Once you floor it and get moving, there
> is no difference.
> 
> I am willing to bet that is what you are feeling in
> the '92 you are 
> looking at.  A new throttle cable might solve the
> problem, or maybe some 
> lube on the throttle body?  It hasn't bothered me
> enough to make me want 
> to change it, I just drive and enjoy both cars,
> knowing they have some 
> differences, but at full throttle, they both feel
> pretty much the same 
> (the '89 has some mods and makes more hp, but they
> feel like brothers 
> rather than cousins!).  :)
> 
> The '92 sounds nice, you know you like this type of
> car, and if the 
> price is right, then get back into a SHO.  Yes,
> things can go wrong, but 
> I bet you are already familiar with VW shop rates
> and parts prices?  You 
> take a chance with anything, even a brand new car. 
> Go for the SHO.
> 
> Don Mallinson
> 
> 
> David Early wrote:
> 
> >Well, I admit that I am somewhat downtrodden by the
> response from
> >everyone...I admit that I hoped you all would talk
> me into it. <smiles>
> >
> >My biggest problem is I can't have 2 cars...not at
> a point where I can do
> >that for a variety of reasons...
> >
> >It sounds like most would agree that the '92 SHO,
> even with 81k on it, is a
> >much worse bet than the 66k '99 VW.  I mean, I like
> my car, but the SHO has
> >a certain appeal as well.  I would NOT consider
> doing this if the mileage
> >were not this close.  
> >
> >I know that I am taking a risk, and that repairs
> could be nasty, but
> >frankly, they could be nasty on either car...German
> cars are not cheap to
> >work on either...just a bit more mass produced. 
> The risk seems to be around
> >which car is going to have the problems first.
> >
> >Any one else want to weigh in on this one?  Looking
> for the voice of
> >experience...from all who care to comment.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >dave
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ian Fisher [mailto:dataflash@yahoo.com] 
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:33 AM
> >To: David Early; shotimes@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Looking to rejoin the
> ranks: Q on first gear power
> >
> >As a former ATX owner and a current MTX owner, I
> have
> >always felt that the 3.2 in the ATX was stronger
> off
> >the line than the 3.0 in the MTX. (more torque) I
> >don't know for sure what you are feeling with this
> 92
> >but over email, that would be my guess. Hey, you
> could
> >always do a 3.2 swap! :)
> >
> >If I had a better more reliable car such as a
> Passat,
> >I would consider supplementing it with an SHO but
> I'd
> >never replace a newer, lower mile car with an SHO.
> You
> >won't come out ahead. :)
> >
> >Ian
> >93 mtx -3.2 any day now!
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