[Shotimes] OT: CTS-V as a replacement for the SHO

[Ron Porter]

Toyota would have bought GM years back when it first came up. They won't
EVER do it (IMHO) as the health care and pension costs are way too great.

Ron Porter

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On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:19 AM
To: 'Carl Prochilo'
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Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: CTS-V as a replacement for the SHO

Toyota has ads on the TV telling about how they make 1 million cars in the
US. Toyota is going to own GM soon anyhow so the only American car company
left will be Ford.


Paul L Fisher

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-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Prochilo [mailto:gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:27 PM
To: Paul L Fisher
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: CTS-V as a replacement for the SHO

Yes, good point.  Many foreign car makers build cars in the US.  Even the
plain jane Camry I rented this week wasn't that bad from that respect
(qualty and built in Ohio IIRC).
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Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sun, July 17, 2005 10:31 am, Paul L Fisher said:
> You could buy an American made Subaru.
>
>
> Paul L Fisher
>
> Visit my website: http://www.paul-fisher.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Carl Prochilo
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 3:28 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: CTS-V as a replacement for the SHO
>
> I'm trying to be patient with my next car buying round.  I'm still looking
> for an american made replacement for the SHO.  I don't know if it will
> happen again in my lifetime.  It's amazing to me that with the massive
> popularity of NASCAR, that there wouldn't be something out there.  I've
> seen enough CTS' on the road that the styling is okay with me.  However
> the reviews of the V model weren't completely flattering, and for $50K,
> there are better choices out there as you say.
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> On Sat, July 2, 2005 3:36 pm, Ron Porter said:
>> Well, there are others cars for less (like the Volvo S60R....with AWD to
>> boot....) for a bunch less money and similar performance, and there are
>> other cars for similar money that I would rather have. For a few grand
>> ore
>> you can have an M3 that blows it away.
>>
>> Granted, GM discounts everything, which is why they are looking to drop
>> MSRP
>> prices across the board, as they get fewer hits on Internet buying sites
>> than other cars.
>>
>> Disclaimer: I still think the CTS is ugly and a near-cousin to the
>> Aztek.
>> The rear 3/4 view is awful, worse than the front end IMNSHO.
>>
>> After years of being a car nut, m mid churns the data o any car, and I
>> just
>> get a feel for "would I buy it, or not?". The CTS-V and GTO are in the
>> NOT
>> category, regardless f the specs and tests.
>>
>> BTW, I caught a bit of the end of a show last nigh, with a new 400 HP
>> GTO
>> against a 300 HP Mustang GT. The GTO won by not even two car lengths.
>> They
>> said it was "still the champ" or words to that effect, but that was
>> pretty
>> lame for carrying 100 more HP (33% more). An '05 GTO was at Lapeer back
>> in
>> may, turning 14.40s.....
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
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