[Shotimes] RE: (OT) Automotive Turkeys 2005

G Kerby Haltom g.kerby@sbcglobal.net
Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:30:43 -0800 (PST)


With the quality problems VW has been having the last
few years, I seriously doubt you'll have zero problems
fro 1 year, much less 10.

Kerby

--- av8r567@optonline.net wrote:

> $62,000 for 2 cars is something to think about. 
> After all, you're getting 2 VWs that should run like
> spit with zero problems for the next 10 years. 
> Plus, you could easily sell the Beetle with 50 miles
> on the odo, for $16,000, take the $2,000 "loss" and
> have $16,000 cash money in your pocket.
> 
> It's not as if they're offering 2 FoMoCo vehicles -
> "buy this Lincoln Navigator and we'll throw in a
> Focus for free".  You will definitely have
> problems/recalls with both like - engine/fuel fires,
> melting electrical wires, fuel tanks that fall off,
> warped brake rotors, rusted subframe bolts....  And,
> just try selling that Ford Focus....even with 50
> miles on the odo.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul L Fisher <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:05 pm
> Subject: [Shotimes] RE: (OT) Automotive Turkeys 2005
> 
> > The local VW dealer had a 'buy this car get a free
> beetle' sticker 
> > on their
> > Phaeton. Basically, pay list of $80K+ and get an
> $18K car free.
> > 
> > 
> > Paul L Fisher
> > 
> > Visit my website: http://www.paul-fisher.com
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> > Amsoil dealer: http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donald Mallinson [mailto:dmall@mwonline.net]
> 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:59 AM
> > Cc: Shotimes; V8List SHO
> > Subject: Re: (OT) Automotive Turkeys 2005
> > 
> > I see no problems with any of the turkeys they
> mention.  A 
> > different set 
> > of criteria would bring up other "turkeys" I am
> sure, but I 
> > thought the 
> > article was pretty well written and they did a
> good job of 
> > coverying 
> > their advertising behinds by qualifying almost
> every decision.
> > 
> > Wonder what the discount is on the Phaeton?  That
> would be a nice 
> > car to 
> > have, but I also wonder about keeping it going in
> future years?  
> > mazda 
> > Millinia anyone?
> > 
> > Don Mallinson
> > 
> > Ron Porter wrote:
> > 
> > >Some will disagree, but Forbes lst (Forbes being
> one of my favorite
> > >magazines) has nailed it, using sales figures.
> See the Slideshow:
> > >
> > >http://tinyurl.com/dz2os
> > >
> > >I'm actually surprised that the VW Phaeton wasn't
> #1!!
> > >
> > >Ron Porter
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