[Shotimes] 06 IMPALA....Replacement for SHO?

[Carl Prochilo]

Also keep in mind the 325i is a lighter car (3285 lbs or 3351 lbs with
the sport package) than the 330i by about 100 lbs with manual tranny. 
A lot the folks on their message boards are skeptical about C&D and
their numbers, but nevertheless the car is quick.  I still think that
if you can overlook the "american" issue, this car is really a good
match for us.
The options list is extensive on these cars and fully loaded will get
you to $50K.  For my 330i I went with sport, premium and cold weather
and those alone got the sticker over $42K plus, because of the Euro
and supply, the dealers are not discounting them as heavily as say the
G35.
The G35 itself like I said is a nice car.  A 6MT can be had for $32K
and change, and since there are no engine options, you get 298 BHP and
people focus on that alone when there a lot more to the E90 than just
raw HP.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Tue, October 11, 2005 17:17, Ron Porter said:
> Yep. 14.7s aren't bad for "only" 215 HP, and that will drop to 14.5 or
> so once the car loosens up.
>
> I had noticed that on BMWs. You can get the sticker into the
> stratosphere with the option list, but there are really only a few key
> options that are needed by the performance enthusiast.
>
> The 325i really is a helluva buy. It should pull away a few potential
> G35 customers.
>
> Same deal with the 330i. Careful work on the option list can keep it
> below $40K.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> Carl Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org> wrote:
> Dunno if this is helpful to people. I always subscribe to the notion
> of test driving too as a means of making a decision.
>
> http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=16&article_id=10106
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> On Tue, October 11, 2005 13:07, Ron Porter said:
>> Define "performance sedan", it's more than just 0-60.
>>
>> Also 220 HP from 1989 is not the same as 220 HP today. Yeah, sounds
>> stupid, but more recent engines may have the same peak HP as
>> 15-year-old engines, but what is more important is that the torque
>> curves throughout the rpm range are much better. Many car with
>> 220-250
>> HP today are solid mid-low 14-second cars, and some 250 HP turbo
>> cars
>> are good for high 13s....
>>
>> One really obvious example was the difference between the pre-'99
>> Mustang GTs with the 2225 HP 4.6, and the '99-newer 260 HP 4.6. It
>> was
>> "only" a 35 (peak) HP upgrade, but the big change was a much fatter
>> torque curve. The result was that the 1/4-mile times dropped from
>> 15.0-15.1 to 13.9-14.0. The less intelligent car mag readers thought
>> that the HP increase "had" to be more than 35, but peak HP ain't
>> where
>> it's at.
>>
>> I would bet that, if the V6 SHO engine was produced today, it
>> wouldn't
>> have a lot more peak HP, but I bet the peak torque would be 230-240
>> lbs/ft, rather than 200.
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>> Peter Maggiacomo wrote:
>> "Probably a decent car, although it's 2005, and I'm
>> not sure I would call a current 215 hp 4 door
>> "performance" sedan."
>> Mark
>>
>> Good point, Mark. I feel that my 95 MTX is just
>> average
>> hp these days. Can't even impress women with 220 hp.
>> -Pete
>> Tampa, Fl.
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