[Shotimes] Re: West Coast Monsoons....
G Kerby Haltom
g.kerby@sbcglobal.net
Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:27:43 -0800 (PST)
The C-17 would probably be the logical choice, which means that it will never happen...
That company chose the 747 because there are several parked out at Palmdale that are brand new, never been put into service, but are 10 years out of date and available rather cheaply. I'm not sure if a new 747 being used for something other than it was designed for is better, or a 50 year old, worn out plane being used for something it wasn't designed for. Might actually be a toss up, which is why the FAA is looking at the 747 rather closely. Having that much water available at one time would sure be a big help. Maybe the Russians would sell up some late model Bear bombers. If nothing else it would be fun to watch...
Kerby
MonsieurBoo@aol.com wrote: It wrenches my heart to see them bust up those Starships. Canards are the
coolest, from Rutan's Voyager right on down to the old Pterodactyl and
Goldwing ultralites.
You pretty near homed in on a good solution for the next generation of
tankers, I'm referring to the C-17. True it has only half the payload of the 747.
That's still a heck of a lot more than those wore-out old Orions can hoist.
And it has gread short/unimproved field capability as well as short wings.
Plus it was designed as a bulk cargo carrier from the git go.
On top of everything else Boeing needs some orders to keep the 17's assembly
line open. The only thing it lacks is a SHO engine on each wing driving a
pusher prop to give 'er more oomph, but I'm sure we can help with that
critical enhancement.
Cheers
Mark LaBarre
94 atx 135k
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"Actually, a company in Arizona, that's been dismantling my beloved
Beechcraft Starships, has built a 747-based tanker...Their 747-tanker can carry
24,000 gallons water/retardant, while quad-turboprop P-3 Orion, the largest tanker
in service, can only carry 3,000 gallons. (a C-5 based tanker could carry
30,000 gallons of water)
"Current tankers drop their load in one pass, but this 747 is able to do
segmented drops. Current tankers fly about 200ft above the fire, this 747 will
fly at around 600ft.
"Large aircraft (like the 747 and C-5) have big wings, and big wings will
get hit with alot of rising hot air from the fire below. That will make for
one seriously bumpy/turbulent ride. The 747 and C-5 were designed for
high-altitude cruising with occasional light/moderate turbulence, not low-altitude
flying with massive turbulence on every flight.
The other issue is turnaround time. The 747 needs an airport with a long
runway. After it dumps its load it must fly to a big airport - that takes
time..."
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