[Shotimes] OT New Camaro just slightly retro

[Mark Nunnally]

>Well, keep in mind that a lot of folks aren't interested in doing track work 
>with their 30k+ cars. Hell, I have yet to take any car I've ever owned on a 
>track (other than 1/4 mile stuff). 

you're missing out :)

>I could care less how heavy the new 
>Challenger is relative to an EVO or STI. Frankly, I don't think a 
>Challenger/Mustang customer is also an EVO/STI customer. I have zero 
>interest in the STI/EVO, but am VERY interested in the Challenger.

I never compared them as a direct buy/buy, I was just responding to Don's comment about only exotic sports cars having a lot of weight reduction engineering, was just putting out a few medium typical price "sports cars" that do the same.

>And FWIW, the Charger does very well on the track. Can't remember where I 
>read it, but track times were super. Especially when you consider the 'heft' 
>of the car.

Car and Driver super sedan comparo (M5 vs Benz vs STS-V)

>To each their own. If I were into track work to the point of stripping a Gen 
>1 down to the bare bones for fun, I might not be too tempted by anything 
>that weighs close to 4000 pounds. But, as a daily driver and a blvd bruiser 
>(and occasional 1/4 mile work) the new Challenger looks like a home run to 
>me.

that's cool, I just said I wouldn't be interested in one as a "sports coupe" (retro mustang/camaro/challenger).

and I'd drive a 4k+ lb car, I just wouldn't pay $30k+ for one and call it a "sports car"  :)