[Shotimes] OT New Camaro just slightly retro

[Donald Mallinson]

Ian,

Yes, detroit is taking a hint from styling of the 60's and 70's, but 
they are popular in the collector world, and a lot of people think they 
were some of the most beautiful cars built.  Others don't.

As for taking a step back in technology.  Why would you say that?  All 
the so-called "retro" cars have the very latest in technology, at least 
from their division.  For instance, the GTO has the latest engines, 
suspension, and safety features, and it isn't even retro.  The 
Chrysler/Dodge cars all have the latest stuff including IRS, and Rear 
Wheel Drive isn't a step back in technology, it is a step away from a 
compromised technology, FWD.  How many of us have wished for years that 
our SHO's were RWD?  I still love my FWD SHO, it is what it is, and it 
is fun, but I love the new trend towards RWD.

As for heavy, that has nothing to do with retro, it has to do with the 
platform and new technology.   The WRX is on the lighter end of the 
scale, but is still almost 3400 pounds with automatic(and wagon).  
Almost any new car from any manufacturer is above 3500 pounds these days 
due to NEW technology as in multiple airbags and speaker systems with 
subs and several heavy speakers.  Add in metal to pass safety/crash 
standards and only Lotus and a few very small cars are under 3500 
pounds, and that is where the SHO is.

Don Mallinson

Ian Fisher wrote:

>http://www.camaroz28.com/
>
>Click the main pic for more pictures.
>
>It seems to have multi piston brake calipers but as a
>show car that doesn't mean much. Doesn't the GTO have
>an IRS? Isn't this thing supposed to share that
>platform?
>
>I'm not big on this retro thing either. These cars are
>way to big and heavy. I'll take an EVO.
>
>My dad also had a 69 Z28 that he sold before I was
>born. They were cool for their day but I don't think
>much of this "take a step back in time and technology"
>bug that has hit Detroit.
>
>Ian
>
>--- van Oss <vanOss@centurytel.net> wrote:
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>>The first car I ever bought was a '69 Camaro.  I'm
>>intrigued.
>>VO
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>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mark Nunnally" <marknunnally@JoiMail.com>
>>To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT New Camaro just slightly
>>retro
>>
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>>>The Vette V8 and 6-speed are of course included. 
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>>The car is based off
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>>>the next generation Monero from Australia as will
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>>be the 2008 GTO.
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>>>I will need to see better pictures, but I don't
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>>think I will be a target
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>>>buyer for the new Camaro, but I have no doubt it
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>>should sell well, if
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>>>the economy doesn't go to hell in the next couple
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>>years.
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>>Ya think?  It sounds just like the old car formula,
>>dumbed down version of
>>the vette' with the hand me down vette drivetrain
>>stuff, and it sold like a
>>turd (unless I am mistaken why they killed it?) 
>>IIRC the mustang outsold it
>>and the firebird combined by a healthy margin.  What
>>would make it different
>>this time around?
>>
>>I'm as much a car/go fast freak as anybody, but if I
>>was shopping for a new
>>sports coupe, none of these "retro" pony/muscle cars
>>would be even close to
>>the top of the list! 3700 - 4100 lb curb weights,
>>crappy brakes, and live
>>rear axles?  Come on.
>>
>>mark
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