[Shotimes] motor mount pt 2 (or) stay away from pioneer mounts!

[clubairth@bellsouth.net]

Jason:
 Thanks for the warning!! You must run that ATX hard!! I race mine and have 
a long list of mods and have never broken or replaced a motor mount yet!
.
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> Ok, so I finally worked up the nerve to actually dig into the engine (on
> my 94 ATX) to figure out precisely what happened. The good news is that
> the rear mount is fine... the bad news is the front motor mount (pioneer
> products PN 601175, solid) completely separated. It just snapped in
> half. This is after three days of use. Well, maybe four. I got it from
> AAP for about $80 after the employee discount (20%). Fortunately, it
> didn't tear the heater core out (although it did #*%@ up the butterfly
> controller connector on the back surge tank up pretty bad). The plastic
> sleeve holding the cruise control cable in the throttle bracket got
> pulled out and was hanging on its little hole, and that's what was
> causing the engine to run really high. Once I reseated it the engine ran
> fine.
>
> I really lucked out; the engine still runs quite nicely. I put it in
> reverse and the engine moved a little but it shot up about 5 inches when
> I put it in drive, so that pretty much told me the front motor mount
> broke. This is crap, that thing lasted all of four days. Taking it back
> out was pretty easy, though, I only had to take out one half at a time!
> I'm out to sea for a week so the car's up on jacks (I hope I don't mess
> the subframe up, the sway bars on it mean jacking up one corner =
> jacking up three corners) cos obviously the motor mount isn't in there
> any more (gotta get that money back, I'm poor!). So I sent a really
> nasty email to pioneer products and I recommend to all of you that you
> stay the hell away from their motor mounts! They sell both a hydraulic
> mount and a solid mount, and I know at least the mount I got (solid) had
> the top mounting plate not parallel to the bottom stud, and they have to
> be parallel for everything to line up. So if you do get one, make sure
> they're parallel or you'll strip the bolt holes up top out cos the holes
> in the mount won't let the bolts go through straight!
> Jason
>
> 94 red ATX 123K  runs fast, looks bad
> 95 blue ATX 170K runs slow, looks good (the wife's, of course)