[Shotimes] Autocross a SHO

Hartberger, Jason M. AT2 (AW) hartbejm@cvn71.navy.mil
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:55:31 -0500


One of my long-term (read: once I win the lotto) projects is to stuff a
SHO engine into a gen1 MR2 and auto-x that heh heh... now THAT should be
interesting! I've done the measuring, too, I think it'll work!

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:32 PM
To: 'Sholist'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Autocross a SHO

This is all fine for newbies. I see these stories on the 911 list with
the
TracQuest events.

Some drivers will NEVER be good, and others improve. Once folks get some
experience, the car matters. The SHO is no longer competitive (same with
my
Fiero that I had hoped to run in Auto-x). If you get semi-serious,
hoping
tat al newbies show up for you to win is dreaming.

The SHO has it's strengths. Organized Motorsports is no longer one of
them.

If you want to do it for fun, a big church bus will also suit your
purposes.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Zach Leahy
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:37 AM
To: Donald Mallinson
Cc: Dave Kegel; Sholist
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Autocross a SHO

Point:

Did an autoX were I brought the mostly stock 93 (at the time).  Another
guys
howed up in his nearly brand new Porsche Carrerra.  He was shocked when
I
would turn in raw times 2 seconds faster than him in a car that's the
size
of a small bus.

I think the correct statement has been made:  A good driver can make up
for
a crappy car, but a good car can't make up as much for a crappy driver.

Z


On 3/1/06, Donald Mallinson <dmall@mwonline.net> wrote:
>
> And later I said in local events and OK, yes the car does factor in,
but
> when starting out, as this discussion was about, the car is the last
> thing someone needs to take into account.  You can spend tons of money
> on a fast car and if the driver is bad, a slow car with a top driver
> will still be better.  In autocross more than about any other driving
> sport, the driver is the most important factor, especially at the
entry
> level.
>
> So as I said, and will continue to point out propery....a new
> autocrosser needs to get driving skill MORE than he needs to get a
fast
> car or sticky tires.  Basics.  If you don't know the basics, the
fastest
> car in the world will still be slow in bad hands.
>
> Don
>
> Dave Kegel wrote:
>
> >OK, so the kid gets in his other buddies BETTER car and goes even
faster
> >still.  Did the kids ability change?  NO.  So what made the
difference?
> >The CAR.
> >
> >Don's sentence was "The car does not matter".  My point was/is that
yes,
> >the car does matter.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Stout
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:45 PM
> >To: 'Sholist'
> >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Autocross a SHO
> >
> >
> >Ok so explain to me how some kid can get in his buddys car, right
after
> >his buddy runs and rip 10 seconds off his buddys time, did the car
get
> >faster ?? NO so what made the difference?? Equipment won't make up
for
> >ability, but ability can sure as hell improve Equipment.  Has anybody
> >seen Dave Garber at a Dragstrip?? I think the word Savant might come
to
> >mind
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