[Shotimes] flat tire - tire wall damage?

[cmichaelo@optonline.net]

Thanks all for the advice.  

I also tried pushing a finger against the side of the tire to see how easily it would give way.  Granted the tire is deflated, but it was quite soft to the touch where the rub mark was; a little bit like pushing jello. And I could easily bend the wall inwards.

So it sounds like I have to get a new tire.

And no, I don't have RH on the tires or any other warranty that would cover this sort of thing.

It's the second time I loose a tire this way.  

With only 6 sets of tires behind me (excl the current set), I don't know if it would have paid off though. 2 tires out of 24?  How much is that RH per tire anyway?

Michael
94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Leigh Smith <leighsm@comcast.net>
Date: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] flat tire - tire wall damage?

> Michael;
> A repair like this needs to be done with the tire off the rim for 
> 2 reasons
> A) to inspect the tire B) to patch it properly
> Inspection: If there is any significant wear on the inside of the 
> tire where
> the rim pressed down on it, the tire is toast. This is likely 
> consideringthe 2 mile drive. A light rub mark can be OK. Damage is 
> usually greater on
> the inside, not the out.
> Patching: Tubless tires should only be patched from the inside. 
> With 2 inch
> self-vulcanizing/glued patches. Period. That repair method is 
> almost as
> strong as the original. External patches/plugs are too risky, they 
> can leak
> anytime. They can even cause the tire to delaminate/separate. If 
> the hole is
> not too big, I wouldn't even be afraid to drive it hard. But I 
> would not
> race it IIWU or get it too hot like with a long high speed run. If 
> the nail
> was big, I would also use a plug patch to help fill the hole and 
> support the
> vulcanized patch. Tread area holes can be easily & safely patched. 
> Anythingin the sidewall, or the tread/sidewall corner, can not be 
> patched, too much
> flexing. If it still leaks air, trash it then. Don't patch the 
> same spot
> twice.
> Lee
> ex-BFG chemist
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <cmichaelo@optonline.net>
> To: "shotimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:57 AM
> Subject: [Shotimes] flat tire - tire wall damage?
> 
> 
> > You've probably heard, or even experienced, this tire incident 
> before:>
> > I ran over a nasty long fat (4mm diameter!) nail along the side 
> of a road.
> >
> > By the time I got home the tire was completely flat.
> >
> > I probably drove for 2-3miles with the tire totally flat (very slow
> though) .
> >
> > The nail pierced right through the middle of the tire.
> >
> > My questions are
> >
> > 1) Can this even be fixed?  The hole is pretty wide.
> >
> > 2) Did I damage the reinforcement of the sidewalls? Externally, 
> the shape
> of the side wall looks fine, except some of the rubber has been 
> worn off
> (where the rim pressed down on the collapsed wall).  But  there's 
> no bulging
> or warping of the sidewall.
> >
> > The tire is a Pilot Sport 235/40-18. Almost new.  This sucks.
> >
> > Michael
> > 94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
> > SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
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