[Shotimes] Diagnostic help with broken SHO

Kenneth Epperly epperly1@optonline.net
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:27:51 -0500


There is the possibility that the nut broke and the mount is still good.

        Ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro@gmail.com>
To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
Cc: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Diagnostic help with broken SHO


> You're referring to the high-quality, never dry-rot subframe bushings?  I
> took a quick glance at them and didn't see any visible signs of breakage. 
> I
> know some time ago I replaced all 4 sets of bushings (although I probably
> made a mistake by not getting the aluminum ones) and they actually
> disintegrate and fall out when they get bad enough!
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 3/24/06, Dave Kegel <d.kegel@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Subframe mounts and or bolts.  Your motor mounts were probably never
>> bad.
>>
>> Dave Kegel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Tatro
>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:38 PM
>> To: SHOtimes
>> Subject: [Shotimes] Diagnostic help with broken SHO
>>
>>
>> This is regarding my '93 ATX.
>>
>> Early last week I was driving. Took a hard right corner, and I heard
>> something break. In an instant my steering wheel was off-center and the
>> car drove funny.
>>
>> It felt just like the time a few years ago my front motor mount broke,
>> so I assumed it was the same thing. Give it some gas, the car jerks to
>> the left (imagine some serious torque steer) and when you let off the
>> gas it straightens out. To verify, when I got home I opened the hood,
>> started the car, put it in drive, and gave it some gas. The motor was
>> rocking all over the place. Great, almost positive it's the motor mount.
>>
>> Took it to my friendly neighborhood Goodyear - they've always been
>> upfront with me and I can't say I've ever felt cheated by them. It was
>> too cold to try to learn how to change a motor mount myself anyway. Good
>> thing I took it in, because it turns out both the front and rear mounts
>> were bad. Replaced the front, couldn't get the back replaced until
>> yesterday since it was out of stock everywhere.
>>
>> The problem is the car still had the same symptoms. New mounts all
>> around and the engine was still rocking. Took it back today and demanded
>> that Goodyear return the front mount as defective and replace it for
>> free. They did, after agreeing that there was nothing else they could
>> find wrong and they knew of nothing else that could cause an engine to
>> move like it was.
>>
>> So, about an hour ago, they got another new front mount installed.
>> Problem is, the engine still rocks around and the car still pulls to the
>> left when you give it some gas and corrects itself when you let off the
>> gas.  Also, I should mention that the steering wheel is off-center when
>> the wheels are tracking (somewhat) straight.
>>
>> They're at a loss. I'm at a loss. The Ford tech I spoke to on the phone
>> is at a loss. The only other discernable problem in the front end is a
>> slightly loose ball joint on the right side.
>>
>> Does anyone have any additional ideas? This car's served me well for 9
>> years now but it's about to take a trip to it's final resting place -
>> the junkyard!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve Tatro
>> Red/Black '93 ATX with 187k miles
>> Monroe, Ohio
>>
>> P.S.  Thanks to those that are reading this that have already replied to
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