[Shotimes] RE: (OT) Dodge Challenger Appearance

[Ron Porter]

I wouldn't kick either of them out of my garage.....in fact if I had the
$$$$ and garage space, I would have both of them.....but NOT the new Camaro,
even if it had the Z06 engine.

Ron Porter

 "Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is
beer. Oh, I grant you the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel
does not go nearly as well with pizza." - Dave Barry 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Childs
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:56 AM
To: 'Shotimes'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: (OT) Dodge Challenger Appearance

The Challanger looks great but... it is based on the Chrysler 300 and weighs
two tons. Granted that a hemi will motivate it well enough but at 500 - 600
lbs less, I'll go with a Mustang.
   
  -Ron 

Ron Porter <ronporter@ameritech.net> wrote:
  Well, that's Motor Trend!! I dropped them about 25 ears ago, and
occasionally reading an issue doesn't leave me regretting that decision!!



I agree, the new Camaro concept does nothing for me, primarily because of
that lame front-end they came up with. Proportions are nowhere as clean as
the Challenger.



I predict the Challenger will blow away the Camaro for sales (after the 1st
year when both ill sell as many as they can build). Camaro has lost it's
luster. From the mid-'80s forward, Mustang GTs were the cheap cars that
folks wanted to build up. Chevy and Ford reversed roles. My Camaro buddy had
both, and parts for his LX 5.0 were far cheaper than for the LT1/LS1 set.



Ford has had a 40 year momentum with the Mustang, and DCX is developing a
solid following of new & old fans with its Hemi vehicles. Chevy is a day
late and a dollar short to this party.

Ron Porter 

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From: Ron Fleshman [mailto:insman1@charter.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 3:04 AM
To: ronporter@ameritech.net; 'Shotimes'; 'V8List SHO'; 'SHO Tech'
Subject: RE: (OT) Dodge Challenger Appearance



The thing does look nice and with Chrysler becoming the "driver's company"
now, I'm sure it will be good. To me, it portrays the 70's musclecar better
than anything short of the Mustang. GM's new Camaro is simply a cartoon of
the original car with bad styling cues and too many weird parts for my
taste. The funniest thing was the recent article in, I think, Motor Trend
where they compared a Mustang GT and GT-500 with the "proposed" Camaro. In
that article the proposed Camaro ate the Mustang for lunch in either
configuration. Huh? The car hasn't even been produced and already it's a
world beater?



Watch out, just like in the 60's and 70's the "GM is King" attitude is
already back. I'll never forget the article in MT or C and D back in the
late 60's-early 70's saying that Ford's 428 CJ that they called "the fastest
pure stock in the history of man (in a Mustang)" was a setup. Truth was,
it was faster and under-rated in HP on purpose (for insurance purposes).
You can now expect to see the motorsports press to embrace the Camaro and
forget the Challenger. That's a pity because both DC and Ford have made
cars true to the legend that was the musclecar era.



Ron 



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From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@ameritech.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:19 AM
To: Shotimes; V8List SHO; SHO Tech
Subject: (OT) Dodge Challenger Appearance



This link was posted over at SHO Forum. Interesting that they are taking it
out to car events.



http://www.300cforums.com/forums/general-discussion/19312-got-challenger.htm
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Ron Porter
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