From mysho93 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 21:30:42 2008 From: mysho93 at yahoo.com (Robert M.) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:30:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Shotimes] 95 3.2 with 3.0 intake and cams? Message-ID: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Whats up all? I havend been posting in a while and have a question. Im a technician at a Ford dealership and a real nice 95 SHO automatic came in the shop the other day. I got an estimate for the repairs he was wanting done and after getting the parts in, I tore into it this morning. I was looking at the intake and the cams and it had KOA on them. The car is stock from what I can tell and is real clean with low mileage. The rear valve cover had a KOB sticker which from what I know, represents a 3.2. The cams and intake had KOA cast on them, which represents a 3.0. Is it common for a 3.2 to have 3.0 parts on them like this one has? Thanks guys for helping me with this. Robert Miller 93 SHO, still parked 89 Thunderbird SC --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From shotimes at jonheese.com Mon Feb 11 21:38:25 2008 From: shotimes at jonheese.com (Jon Heese) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:38:25 -0600 Subject: [Shotimes] 95 3.2 with 3.0 intake and cams? In-Reply-To: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47B122C1.90700@jonheese.com> Robert, Welcome back, but fair warning: Most of us have moved over to the V6SHO Yahoo Group (http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/v6sho/). You probably won't get much more response on this list. As far as your question, I've never heard of a 3.2 with 3.0 cams from the factory, but it is a very well-known mod to swap the KOA cams into the 3.2s. The KOA cam profile is geared for more power (that apparently the 3.2 didn't need on account of its greater displacement). My guess is that a previous owner did this swap and it got forgotten somewhere along the way. Regards, Jon Heese P.S. If you don't already have a Yahoo ID, you can join the V6SHO list, by sending a blank email to v6sho-subscribe at yahoogroups.com. Robert M. wrote: > Whats up all? I havend been posting in a while and have a question. Im a technician at a Ford dealership and a real nice 95 SHO automatic came in the shop the other day. I got an estimate for the repairs he was wanting done and after getting the parts in, I tore into it this morning. I was looking at the intake and the cams and it had KOA on them. The car is stock from what I can tell and is real clean with low mileage. The rear valve cover had a KOB sticker which from what I know, represents a 3.2. The cams and intake had KOA cast on them, which represents a 3.0. Is it common for a 3.2 to have 3.0 parts on them like this one has? Thanks guys for helping me with this. > > Robert Miller > 93 SHO, still parked > 89 Thunderbird SC > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > Shotimes mailing list > Shotimes at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes From shotimes at jonheese.com Mon Feb 11 21:41:14 2008 From: shotimes at jonheese.com (Jon Heese) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:41:14 -0600 Subject: [Shotimes] 95 3.2 with 3.0 intake and cams? In-Reply-To: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47B1236A.5040807@jonheese.com> Forgot to mention the intake: I'm not sure if there are any major differences between the 3.0 and 3.2 intakes (besides the stickers, obviously), but I'd imagine this was done for looks. Maybe the original KOB intake was scratched or polished due to bad motor mounts. Either way, I'd bet dollars to donuts that this is a simple matter of a DIY parts swap. Regards, Jon Heese Robert M. wrote: > Whats up all? I havend been posting in a while and have a question. Im a technician at a Ford dealership and a real nice 95 SHO automatic came in the shop the other day. I got an estimate for the repairs he was wanting done and after getting the parts in, I tore into it this morning. I was looking at the intake and the cams and it had KOA on them. The car is stock from what I can tell and is real clean with low mileage. The rear valve cover had a KOB sticker which from what I know, represents a 3.2. The cams and intake had KOA cast on them, which represents a 3.0. Is it common for a 3.2 to have 3.0 parts on them like this one has? Thanks guys for helping me with this. > > Robert Miller > 93 SHO, still parked > 89 Thunderbird SC > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > Shotimes mailing list > Shotimes at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes From dmall at mwonline.net Tue Feb 12 08:09:07 2008 From: dmall at mwonline.net (Don Mallinson) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:09:07 -0600 Subject: [Shotimes] 95 3.2 with 3.0 intake and cams? In-Reply-To: <47B1236A.5040807@jonheese.com> References: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <47B1236A.5040807@jonheese.com> Message-ID: <47B1B693.4060405@mwonline.net> Jon, the 3.2 intake is different at least on the passenger cross-over, the DIS module is mounted farther back so the wiring won't be stretched (the wiring must be the same) since the engine in a 3.2 is mounted farther forward. The coil pack is also relocated for the same reason. Don Mallinson Jon Heese wrote: >Forgot to mention the intake: I'm not sure if there are any major >differences between the 3.0 and 3.2 intakes (besides the stickers, >obviously), but I'd imagine this was done for looks. Maybe the original >KOB intake was scratched or polished due to bad motor mounts. > >Either way, I'd bet dollars to donuts that this is a simple matter of a >DIY parts swap. > >Regards, >Jon Heese > >Robert M. wrote: > > >> Whats up all? I havend been posting in a while and have a question. Im a technician at a Ford dealership and a real nice 95 SHO automatic came in the shop the other day. I got an estimate for the repairs he was wanting done and after getting the parts in, I tore into it this morning. I was looking at the intake and the cams and it had KOA on them. The car is stock from what I can tell and is real clean with low mileage. The rear valve cover had a KOB sticker which from what I know, represents a 3..2. The cams and intake had KOA cast on them, which represents a 3.0. Is it common for a 3.2 to have 3.0 parts on them like this one has? Thanks guys for helping me with this. >> >> Robert Miller >> 93 SHO, still parked >> 89 Thunderbird SC >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. >>_______________________________________________ >>Shotimes mailing list >>Shotimes at autox.team.net >>http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Shotimes mailing list >Shotimes at autox.team.net >http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes From leahyz at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 08:56:18 2008 From: leahyz at gmail.com (Zach Leahy) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Shotimes] 95 3.2 with 3.0 intake and cams? In-Reply-To: <47B1B693.4060405@mwonline.net> References: <342843.13009.qm@web56815.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <47B1236A.5040807@jonheese.com> <47B1B693.4060405@mwonline.net> Message-ID: <688997320802120756h6c0bcedcrf784eb510e212903@mail.gmail.com> On 2/12/08, Don Mallinson wrote: > > Jon, > > the 3.2 intake is different at least on the passenger cross-over, the > DIS module is mounted farther back so the wiring won't be stretched (the > wiring must be the same) since the engine in a 3.2 is mounted farther > forward. The coil pack is also relocated for the same reason. > > Don Mallinson The 3.2 intake also has the features for the EGR machined IIRC. > -- > Zach Leahy > Fort Wayne, IN > 2006 BMW R1200GS - Rock Red > 2003 BMW F650GSL - Yellow > 1992 SHO MTX - Arrest Me Red > 1993 SHO MTX - Green Racecar