[Shotimes] 95 MTX failing in high heat

James White greensho at crown.net
Tue Jul 22 21:39:56 MDT 2008


Russ McCoy deals in used SHO parts.  Think that his website is www.
rcmauotparts.com.

He is usually good to do business with.

regards, Jim White
'95MTX - 270k


At Tuesday, 22 July 2008, Edward Mazurek <emazurek at cisco.com> wrote:

>Hi Jonas,
>
>Yes thanks. The problem is the hood only has to be open for a minute or
>two and the car will start. That's why I was thinking it maybe is 
the DIS
>since the crank sensor is buried and wouldn't cool that quickly.
>
>Anyone knows if DISs are available from Advance or AZ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ed
>
>Jonas Diener wrote:
>> Seems like it could be the DIS module.
>> 
>> The next time it fails, you can do a test to determine if it's 
a problem
>> with ignition or fuel delivery.
>> 
>> When it's in it's failure state, pull one of the ignition wires 
off it's
>> plug, and insert a metal key into the end of the wire.  Rest the 
key so it's
>> near the metal intake, but not touching it.  Then have someone 
crank the
>> engine while you watch the key closely.
>> 
>> If you see a spark jumping from the key to the metal intake, then the
>> ignition system is doing it's thing and firing the plugs.
>> 
>> You can also check for fuel pressure by sticking your key into 
the schrader
>> valve on the fuel rail.  Do this with the ignition in the "run" 
position.
>> If fuel sprays out, then you have fuel pressure.
>> 
>> (Do the spark test first.  If you do the fuel test first, the 
ignition spark
>> might ignite any fuel that has sprayed out.)
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/22/08 11:59, "Edward Mazurek" <emazurek at cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> Since I had already replaced the crank sensor and the water pump
>>> I was really hoping it wasn't that. The DIS is just so accessible!
>>>
>>> Would you know what code I would expect for the crank sensor 
failure?
>>>
>>> Any chance it's the DIS???? :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> James White wrote:
>>>> Classic crank sensor failure.
>>>>
>>>> Replace the waterpump at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> regards, Jim White
>>>> (still not on the new list)
>>>> '95MTX - 270k
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At Tuesday, 22 July 2008, Edward Mazurek <emazurek at cisco.com> 
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My 95 MTX just started failing when it's hot outside. It was 100F
>>>>> here yesterday and once I got off the highway the engine starts
>>>>> stumbling and then dies. It cranks then but won't start. If I open
>>>>> the hood, even just for a minute or two, it starts and will run
>>>>> again for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't run the codes yet but I'm thinking DIS. The car has 
185K on
>>>>> it and at around 120K I did all the 60K maintenance including 
replacing
>>>>> the cranks sensor and cam sensor. I haven't replaced the DIS or
>>>> the coil
>>>>> pack at this point so they are original.
>>>>>
>>>>> What codes would I expect if the DIS was failing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are those available at advance or autozone or do I need a Ford 
part?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>>
>>>>> One interesting point is that this car has been very reliable 
overall.
>>>>> Even the AC is still factory cold and the only thing I've done 
to it
>>>>> is remove a clutch shim a year or two ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed Mazurek
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