Nory wrote:: "So why is "mid 50s" long sleeve and jackets in So Cal..." Say *WHAT*???? I have a long-sleeved shirt. Somewhere. Usually take with me to England "just in case"... " is jacket and top up weather." What's a "top"??? (Oh, yeah, I had one of those about 40 years ago. But I was in Memphis back then! Buster