<<But for real fun, I like my wife's new WRX :) :) :) >> <G> I HAVE 'played' TWICE in the snow (virgin - NO salt) in my Big Healey and THAT was a BLAST, Chris !!!! "Amber" is a bit of a handful with SLOW steering for 'playing'<VBG>!!! 'Might' be the just shy of 600BHP at rear wheels tho. <smirk> And YES, the $4/gal was KILLING my wallet!!!