Sorry to hear about Ron's mishap... Plastic versus Steel.. no contest :( BTW I try not to do Facebook... my kids are on it and I don't want to know..!!.. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid