[Spridgets] The transmission WORKS!

[Mark Haynes]

Thanks Rick,
Since I have the original smoothcase from the MKII, as well as the BE, its
good to know the differences to aid in parts acquisition.


Mark Haynes
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---------- Original Message ----------
From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The transmission WORKS!
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:34:01 -0400

Close!  The laygear has needle roller bearings, but the spigot on the front
end of the output shaft goes into a bushing in the rear end of the input
shaft.  If you decide to rebuild a smoothcase I believe this bushing can be
replaced with the later caged needle roller bearing.

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On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:48 AM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> Thanks Rick,
> That explains a lot, The only other difference that I know of is that the
smoothcase has bushings instead of roller bearings in the laygear, is that
right?
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> AN5L8016
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
> To: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.com>
> Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The transmission WORKS!
> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:43:13 -0400
>
> No baulk rings in the smoothcase.  The "cones" in a smoothcase are actually
a bronze looking ring with the outer diameter cut at an angle.  They are
mounted on the second and third speed gears.  The cone fits in a corresponding
hole in the next gear or synchronizing assembly.  Kinda hard to describe and
neither Moss or VB has a parts list photo to refer you to.
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:06 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.com> wrote:
>
>> Just for reference, are the cones the tapered parts that mate into the
baulk
>> rings when shifting and actually slow the gear to help engagement? If so,
How
>> do the ribcase cones get attached? mine were in not-so-good shape, but
lacking
>> experience, I reused them and the gears they were on.
>> BTW, If anyone does do a ribcase, be sure to clean the Reverse/1-2 detent
hole
>> out, I've got a bit of a glitch sometimes, and I think its due to grit in
>> there keeping the 'pill' from moving easily.
>>
>>
>> Mark Haynes
>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
>> HAN6L12977
>> AN5L8016
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:37:21 -0700
>> From: Gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
>>
>> Great news Mark, congrats!
>>
>> Dave, the smooth case requires the the gear synchronizing cones to be
shrunk
>> on. This is typically done in a heated oil bath (250F) and both inside and
>> outside surfaces need to be machined rather precisely before and after
>> assembly. I rebuilt one of these in the late 60's, but parts were easy to
get
>> and finding a shop to do the work was easy and reasonable.  If you had all
>> the
>> parts ready to go, it's no more difficult to rebuild than a ribcase, it's
all
>> that comes before that's the obstacle.
>>
>> Gerard
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