[Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 58, Issue 6

ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Wed Jan 20 12:22:27 MST 2016


No you couldn't have. For example read the history of legal battles between Lionel trains and Mikes train house. contractor for MTH approached Lionel about new designs for cheep. Lionel bit and produced these new designs thinking they were from an inhouse designer. Instead they were MTH stolen plans. Almost bankrupted Lionel. They couldn't do anything legal against the designer since they were both using same manufacturing contractor. 
Ryan 

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From: "John Innis via Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
To: "Mark Haynes" <220caribou at gmail.com> 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:43:50 PM 
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That is all true, BUT, there is another layer to this. My company has also done business with sub-contractors in China, and I spent some time there getting the subs up to speed on the work they were doing for us. They work we got form them was of acceptable quality, but definitely the minimum possible quality that we could accept. The subs that we worked with did not care if we rejected some product, it was cheaper for them to have rework than to do the work to a higher standard. So we basically had to inspect everything we got from them. The reject rate was definitely much higher than any of the other subcontractors we worked with. 

Then there is the IP issue. Just about every design that the China-based sub worked on for us ended up getting ripped off and marketed by a different Chinese company shortly after out contract ended. Both companies were owned by the government of China, so it seems likely they deliberately transferred our technology to one of our competitors. Fortunately they did NOT try to sell our design in the US. I am pretty sure we could have stopped them, but it would have been expensive. 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Mark Haynes via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net > wrote: 



This article is right on point, My brother in-law has traveled to China for business (very astute Engineer BTW) and stated that the Chinese will make anything that you want to whatever price/quality point YOU define. They CAN make very good tools, but its up to the outsourcing company to tell them what level of quality they want. 
Unfortunately most of the US firms are more concerned with cost to produce rather than longevity and quality (Are you listening HF?). 
JMHO, 

Mark Haynes 
It only goes one way- Pay It Forward 

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