[Tigers] Tiger Short Shifter and Alternatives

[michael at michaelshortt.com]

Cullen is correct.
Short throw has nothing to do with the cockpit height of the actual stick.

Michael Shortt
On Jan 24, 2014 7:53 AM, "Cullen1972" <cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with mark on what little experience I have with them. I have a
> hurst
> competition plus correct shifter on my replica 427 cobra with its wide
> ratio
> toploader.  It has a non functional reverse lockout. The t handle is spring
> loaded and slides but it's not required to enter reverse. You don't miss it
> though,  The detent is so strong you have to be very assertive and
> intentional
> to find reverse. I got it from Dan Williams ands VERY nice. It was also
> uncomfortably expensive at the time.
>
> On another note,  in the t5 and late model mustang world and other modern
> car
> world, short throw shifters actually describe the range of the mechanism
> below
> the fulcrum of the shifter. Typically I believe due to the revised geometry
> the shifting effort it's self is slightly increased at the expense of a
> shorter throw between gears. Yes the handle on the shifter itself is indeed
> shorter but if I'm not mistaken the "throw "being shorter is actually
> describing the leverage that occurs below the fulcrum between the bottom of
> the shifter and the shift forks on that style of transmission.
>
>  I am not sure how that equates to top loaders and externally shifted
> transmissions but I was always taught that a short throw shifter is not the
> same thing as a shifter with a shorter handle. FWIW
>
> Cullen
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> > On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:53 PM, "Mark Rense" <mark44124 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rob,
> > One of my Tigers has the Hurst Competition-Plus control box/linkage using
> > the 289 Cobra shifter. This shifter is shorter than the standard Tiger
> > shifter although I'm not sure if it is the same as the official Tiger
> "short
> > shifter".
> >
> > PROS
> > The short shifter/Hurst combo requires some adjustment to your driving
> > habits but once you learn it and its short throws it is a lot of fun, if
> > you've ever driven a S2000 it's almost that good. The down side is when I
> > get into the other Tiger with the standard Toploader shifter it feels
> like
> > I'm shifting a truck.
> >
> > CONS
> > The short shifter is a longer reach, so it may not be good for your arm
> > length, and the short shifter knob restricts your right knee movement
> when
> > in 2nd and 4th gear, something you only notice when droning along on long
> > freeway trips.
> >
> > You can still buy this Hurst/Cobra shifter combination, either from David
> > Kee Toploaders or from Dan William's Toploader Transmissions. There may
> be
> > others who sell this but I trust these guys.
> >
> > Note that the Hurst system does not use a reverse lock-out, just a strong
> > detent.
> >
> > http://4speedtoploaders.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/cobrashifters.html
> >
> > http://www.toploadertransmissions.com/contact.html
> >
> > The 289 Cobra shifter is also available for standard Toploader linkage
> but
> > the reverse lock-out Tee-handle on the Cobra re-pop shifters is
> > non-functional, so you'd have to deal with that issue.
> >
> >
>
> http://www.finishlineaccessories.com/cobra_engine_parts/cobra-shifter-handle
> > s-transmission-driveline/shifter-handle-289-top-loader
> >
> > Bugz
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