From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Tue Aug 6 10:36:55 2019 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] gas peddle References: <924923738.1502880.1565109415395.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <924923738.1502880.1565109415395@mail.yahoo.com> does anyone have a gas peddle u don't need, ?that's the piece that attaches to the trans tunnel with 3 screws, ?thanks, Clyde -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 17:18:37 2019 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 18:18:37 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? [image: image.png] Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 338500 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Fri Aug 9 06:39:13 2019 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 08:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01d54eaf$a2d10bb0$e8732310$@bluefrog.com> Joe Here is 1 picture of the long spring Still looking for pictures for the rest of the assembly Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Joe Brown via Tigers Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:19 PM To: Tigers Den Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware Hi, I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 121536 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_4325.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 496212 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Fri Aug 9 07:11:25 2019 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 09:11:25 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001a01d54eb3$f4bc20a0$de3461e0$@bluefrog.com> Joe Here are a couple more pictures. Is this everything you need? Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Joe Brown via Tigers Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:19 PM To: Tigers Den Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware Hi, I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 121536 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_4404.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 439276 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_4405.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 441225 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Tigers at embarqmail.com Fri Aug 9 08:31:54 2019 From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:31:54 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe, Looks like you are missing the ratchet plate. In the parts manual it's called out as item B188. Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:18 PM Joe Brown via Tigers wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time > figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a > good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? > > [image: image.png] > > Thanks, > Joe Brown > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 338500 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Fri Aug 9 09:14:29 2019 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:14:29 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, I have the ratchet plates. But i'm still trying to figure out if I have all of the right bolts. Ron Fraser sent me some photos and I will piece things together using them On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 9:32 AM Will Seay wrote: > Joe, > > Looks like you are missing the ratchet plate. In the parts manual it's > called out as item B188. > > Will - 382001570 > Tigers at embarqmail.com > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:18 PM Joe Brown via Tigers > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time >> figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a >> good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? >> >> [image: image.png] >> >> Thanks, >> Joe Brown >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 338500 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Fri Aug 9 10:37:32 2019 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 12:37:32 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Seat Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003001d54ed0$c14a1700$43de4500$@bluefrog.com> Joe The Alpine Parts List will help only some ? Section YX - body fittings Joe Parlanti wrote a very nice article a few years ago ? should be on the TE/AE web site. Here is a picture of the hardware ? Sunbeam Specialties carries most of them. 2 Long ? BSF screws 2 pivot screws 3 button head screws ? original screws were staked after install ? I may use some LocTite here when I get that far Round nut Small #6 screws I bought some small stainless washers instead of the plain steel washers 2 half moon type cover plates 2 large cover plates I purchased ? -26 and 5/16 ? 22 BSF tap and dies from Britishfasteners.com to clean up some poor looking threads Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Joe Brown via Tigers Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 11:14 AM To: Will Seay Cc: Tigers Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seat Hardware No, I have the ratchet plates. But i'm still trying to figure out if I have all of the right bolts. Ron Fraser sent me some photos and I will piece things together using them On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 9:32 AM Will Seay > wrote: Joe, Looks like you are missing the ratchet plate. In the parts manual it's called out as item B188. Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:18 PM Joe Brown via Tigers > wrote: Hi, I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? Thanks, Joe Brown _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Section YX - > body fittings > > Joe Parlanti wrote a very nice article a few years ago ? should be on the > TE/AE web site. > > > > Here is a picture of the hardware ? Sunbeam Specialties carries most of > them. > > 2 Long ? BSF screws > > 2 pivot screws > > 3 button head screws ? original screws were staked after install ? I may > use some LocTite here when I get that far > > Round nut > > Small #6 screws > > I bought some small stainless washers instead of the plain steel washers > > 2 half moon type cover plates > > 2 large cover plates > > > > I purchased ? -26 and 5/16 ? 22 BSF tap and dies from Britishfasteners.com > to clean up some poor looking threads > > > > Ron Fraser > > > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown > via Tigers > *Sent:* Friday, August 09, 2019 11:14 AM > *To:* Will Seay > *Cc:* Tigers Den > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Seat Hardware > > > > No, I have the ratchet plates. But i'm still trying to figure out if I > have all of the right bolts. > > Ron Fraser sent me some photos and I will piece things together using them > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 9:32 AM Will Seay wrote: > > Joe, > > > > Looks like you are missing the ratchet plate. In the parts manual it's > called out as item B188. > > > > Will - 382001570 > Tigers at embarqmail.com > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:18 PM Joe Brown via Tigers > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to put my seats back together and I'm having a hard time > figuring out where all of the pieces of hardware go. Does anybody have a > good photo or drawing showing how the various pieces fit together? > > > > [image: image.png] > > > > Thanks, > > Joe Brown > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From garywinblad at comcast.net Sun Aug 11 15:08:04 2019 From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary Winblad) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:08:04 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] windshield chrome early 1966 Tiger In-Reply-To: <002d01d5507c$8f13e470$ad3bad50$@atmospherebuilders.com> References: <002d01d5507c$8f13e470$ad3bad50$@atmospherebuilders.com> Message-ID: <1f22b1df-56ce-7f3f-2a11-0c3bdd681fe1@comcast.net> Stainless Steel Gary On 8/11/2019 12:39 PM, Richard Hyatt via Tigers wrote: > > HI, > > I wondered if the windshield trim is chrome plated steel or stainless > steel. IT is magnetic but some stainless is so I could not tell. I > would like to polish out some scratches and get it looking good before > reinstallation. > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net > > From rfraser at bluefrog.com Sun Aug 11 17:41:09 2019 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:41:09 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] rear main seal leak In-Reply-To: <001b01d5507c$2d772f10$88658d30$@atmospherebuilders.com> References: <001b01d5507c$2d772f10$88658d30$@atmospherebuilders.com> Message-ID: <001201d5509e$431d34a0$c9579de0$@bluefrog.com> Rick First I would ask the engine builder about this problem - see what he has to say. It is very possible that the rope seal needs to heat cycle - again ask the engine builder. Tom Monroe's book about rebuilding a small block Ford states to use some RTV on the rear main too. Ask the engine builder if he used RTV there. I had a small leak at the rear main so I dropped the pan, removed the rear bearing cap and put some more RTV along the edges seems to have worked OK. You probably should only lower the bearing cap a little bit if you decide to add RTV to the edges Understand that when the engine is in position there is not a wall of oil against the bearing cap. There is oil from the pump at the bearing and some splashing oil from the crank assembly and the drains but the oil sump height does not go back to the bearing or near the block level - the oil is mostly in the deep sump of the pan. At 45 degrees there is a wall of oil against the bearing cap and block that is not normally there - this could be part of the problem. Hope this helps Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Richard Hyatt via Tigers Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 3:37 PM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] rear main seal leak HI, I have just had my engine rebuilt at a well known engine builder. Before it could be installed I had a rapidly leaking rear main seal. Got it back, tilted it up for a top installation and yep.still leaks. Slower. This time with a rope aeal. Will it seat and get better or should it go back again. I have the whole engine /transmission assy. tilted at about a 45 degree angle waiting to see how bad the leak is. Any ideas or comments about the rear main seal? Thanks. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbsyv at yahoo.com Sun Aug 11 23:10:56 2019 From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim B) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 22:10:56 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] windshield chrome early 1966 Tiger In-Reply-To: <1f22b1df-56ce-7f3f-2a11-0c3bdd681fe1@comcast.net> References: <002d01d5507c$8f13e470$ad3bad50$@atmospherebuilders.com> <1f22b1df-56ce-7f3f-2a11-0c3bdd681fe1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <269DB873-986B-4A87-B462-EEC8E9AFA5B3@yahoo.com> Ulta fine steel wool will shine it up. > On Aug 11, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers wrote: > > Stainless Steel > Gary > > > On 8/11/2019 12:39 PM, Richard Hyatt via Tigers wrote: >> >> HI, >> >> I wondered if the windshield trim is chrome plated steel or stainless steel. IT is magnetic but some stainless is so I could not tell. I would like to polish out some scratches and get it looking good before reinstallation. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv at yahoo.com > > From sabre2tgr at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 18:01:27 2019 From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:01:27 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] The windshield job continues, finally Message-ID: With vacations, weekends away, concerts and whatnot finally not interfering, my son and I finally got back to my windshield job this weekend. Progress: The glass is in the frame. Not perfect, but the gasket is seated all around, though I have a suspicion that the VB glass could have been curved just bit more on one end. Then we tried to mount it to the car. Easy? Of course not. We just can't get the frame to seat down far enough to push the gasket all the way down to the body. The middle looks pretty close, but we haven't fully tightened the nut yet. Driver?s side looks closer, but the passenger side is nowhere near close enough. and it just doesn't seem to want to go down any further. I have Rick's angle adjusters installed, but I can see they are not causing the problem. And the adjusters are far enough off center in the tubes that i can't get the modified socket on. The gasket is currently sticking out beyond the end of the frame on both ends, I was going to cut it off even with the frame once installed. The tubular part of the gasket is all inside the frame like it should be. Is this gasket supposed to be trimmed BEFORE the ends of the frame, at least on the inside? I have the pieces that make up most of my old gasket, but not the ends, so I have nothing to go by. I did a lot of trimming of the foam inside the new dash pad so I don?t think the problem is there. I'm tempted to do some additional dash pad cutting, but before I do, are there any clues out there? Thanks Stu Brennan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 19:07:55 2019 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 18:07:55 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] The windshield job continues, finally In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had the exact same issues when I did this 20 years ago. My windshield from the factory was smashed down to the top of the car. I've seen other Sunbeams the same. I don't have a solution. I did end up stripping the foam under the dash top all the way back to basically where the inside rubber seal started. Kind of helped, but not 100%. I did have the wedges. I don't know if that helped or hurt. And once it was all in, and adjusted, I am not 100% convinced the back of the windshield lines up to the front of the quarter window as good as it used to. I also remember trimming the rubber seal somewhere so that it could compress more. I don't recall anymore where that was. I think I spoke with Rick about it then. I think he might have said to just keep tightening. Perhaps I didn't have enough courage to tighten it enough. I did not trust those studs to not break off the frame. I did try to have someone push down on the top of the frame/windshield to squeeze the rubber while I tightened the nuts. I hope some if this helps. I don't think I will pull it apart. But I hope someone has some good solutions. Fortunately the Tiger is still original and fits well. Maybe I will take a closer look and see if I can see any differences. Jay On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:02 PM Stu via Tigers wrote: > With vacations, weekends away, concerts and whatnot finally not > interfering, my son and I finally got back to my windshield job this > weekend. Progress: The glass is in the frame. Not perfect, but the gasket > is seated all around, though I have a suspicion that the VB glass could > have been curved just bit more on one end. > > Then we tried to mount it to the car. Easy? Of course not. We just can't > get the frame to seat down far enough to push the gasket all the way down > to the body. The middle looks pretty close, but we haven't fully tightened > the nut yet. Driver?s side looks closer, but the passenger side is nowhere > near close enough. and it just doesn't seem to want to go down any > further. I have Rick's angle adjusters installed, but I can see they are > not causing the problem. And the adjusters are far enough off center in > the tubes that i can't get the modified socket on. > > The gasket is currently sticking out beyond the end of the frame on both > ends, I was going to cut it off even with the frame once installed. The > tubular part of the gasket is all inside the frame like it should be. Is > this gasket supposed to be trimmed BEFORE the ends of the frame, at least > on the inside? I have the pieces that make up most of my old gasket, but > not the ends, so I have nothing to go by. > > I did a lot of trimming of the foam inside the new dash pad so I don?t > think the problem is there. > > I'm tempted to do some additional dash pad cutting, but before I do, are > there any clues out there? > > Thanks > > Stu Brennan > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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First up with the $ gets the spindles. -- Tom Hall ModTiger Engineering LLC 5712 San Luis Court Pleasanton, CA 94566 modtiger at comcast.net (925)462-3876 www.tigerengineering.net From mwood24020 at aol.com Wed Aug 14 20:58:59 2019 From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 02:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Drop Spindles References: <1290102242.3991356.1565837939619.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1290102242.3991356.1565837939619@mail.yahoo.com> Rare item and a very worthwhile mod, my opinion...lower CG with no loss of precious front suspension travel. Say hi to Tomo for us, Tom. We'll see you guys next time we're down! Mike On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 Tom Hall via Tigers wrote: As many of you know, Peter Thomson from Australia visits me every summer.? He landed a couple of days ago and brought one set of the rare drop spindles for a Tiger.? They are available and the price is $1,000 for the bare spindles or $1200 if you want them powder coated semi-gloss black. Pete is selling these spindles personally, not ModTiger, but you can send requests to my email address.? First up with the $ gets the spindles. -- Tom Hall ModTiger Engineering LLC 5712 San Luis Court Pleasanton, CA 94566 modtiger at comcast.net (925)462-3876 www.tigerengineering.net _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are available and the price is $1,000 > for the bare spindles or $1200 if you want them powder coated semi-gloss > black. Pete is selling these spindles personally, not ModTiger, but you > can send requests to my email address. First up with the $ gets the > spindles. > > -- > Tom Hall > ModTiger Engineering LLC > 5712 San Luis Court > Pleasanton, CA 94566 > modtiger at comcast.net > (925)462-3876 > www.tigerengineering.net > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have the original screws that came off and as you can see in this photo I have a small sheet metal screen for the small hole and a larger machine screw for the larger hole. My question has to do with the machine screws. The hole in the dash is not threaded and you can't get to the screw from under the dash to put a nut on it. How is the machine screw supposed to work here? [image: image.png] Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 341835 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com Tue Aug 20 14:27:15 2019 From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 15:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Dash Vent Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never mind. The larger holes ARE threaded. There appears to be a captured nut below the layer of sheet metal. The machine screw feels loose in the hole until it is tightened all of the way down. Thanks, Joe Brown ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Joe Brown Date: Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:49 PM Subject: Dash Vent Hardware To: Tigers Den Hi, I'm installing a new dash pad and I have a question about the vent hardware. At either end of each vent cover there is a large hole and a small countersunk hole. I have the original screws that came off and as you can see in this photo I have a small sheet metal screen for the small hole and a larger machine screw for the larger hole. My question has to do with the machine screws. The hole in the dash is not threaded and you can't get to the screw from under the dash to put a nut on it. How is the machine screw supposed to work here? [image: image.png] Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From harryb at elams.org Sat Aug 24 13:10:44 2019 From: harryb at elams.org (H B Elam) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:10:44 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top Message-ID: Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem to conform and refrain from vibration. Harry B382002027 B382000471 From Tigers at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 25 08:47:43 2019 From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 10:47:43 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Clyde, There's only one strap. In your 1A, the one strap plus Velcro is supposed to do the job. Some of the flapping may be because your strap isn't tight enough. The front segment of the strap is supposed to be elastic, and as such will always pull tight between the windshield header and the bow. Most after-market straps are non-elastic, typically made of nylon, similar to seat belt material, and depend on initial fit to provide the correct tension. If the strap doesn't provide the right tension, you may have some flapping. Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:10 PM H B Elam via Tigers wrote: > Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All > have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others > have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem > to conform and refrain from vibration. > > Harry > B382002027 > B382000471 > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at munroe.ca Sun Aug 25 09:15:44 2019 From: dave at munroe.ca (Dave Munroe) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:15:44 -0300 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bucktrippel at verizon.net Sun Aug 25 09:27:35 2019 From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:27:35 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003101d55b59$a050bb40$e0f231c0$@verizon.net> Clyde, We totaled 4,700 miles on the round trip from Los Angeles to the TEAE United at La Crosse and virtually all of it had the top up. And virtually no flapping. Our Mk1A has a single nylon seatbelt type strap and Velcro on the sides. When our Tiger was stopped, the top was supported by the strap. However at speed the top hung limp. We had the cowl vents opened the entire time and, on a few occasions we'd have some flapping. We could eliminate the flapping by opening or closing the windows. Buck mailto:BuckTrippel at Verizon.net From: Tigers On Behalf Of Will Seay via Tigers Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:48 AM To: H B Elam Cc: Tiger Server Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Clyde, There's only one strap. In your 1A, the one strap plus Velcro is supposed to do the job. Some of the flapping may be because your strap isn't tight enough. The front segment of the strap is supposed to be elastic, and as such will always pull tight between the windshield header and the bow. Most after-market straps are non-elastic, typically made of nylon, similar to seat belt material, and depend on initial fit to provide the correct tension. If the strap doesn't provide the right tension, you may have some flapping. Will - 382001570 mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:10 PM H B Elam via Tigers wrote: Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem to conform and refrain from vibration. Harry B382002027 B382000471 _______________________________________________ From j_d_johnson at earthlink.net Sun Aug 25 09:51:57 2019 From: j_d_johnson at earthlink.net (J D Johnson) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:51:57 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top In-Reply-To: <003101d55b59$a050bb40$e0f231c0$@verizon.net> References: <003101d55b59$a050bb40$e0f231c0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Nearly 'flapless' Los Angeles soft-top fitment exhibit Emacs! J.D. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ThanksTerry Packer 9470018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Sun Aug 25 13:22:34 2019 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 19:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 238 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <637896646.1331694.1566760954104@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the replies. My top has one strap but only connects the back two bows, it doesn't go forward to the front frame that connects to the windshield. That is why I probably have a little more vibration than I think is necessary, thank again, Clyde . ? -----Original Message----- From: tigers-request To: tigers Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 11:57 am Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 238 Send Tigers mailing list submissions to ??? tigers at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? tigers-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? tigers-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Convertible top (H B Elam) ? 2. Re: Convertible top (Will Seay) ? 3. Re: Convertible top (Dave Munroe) ? 4. Re: Convertible top (Buck Trippel) ? 5. Re: Convertible top (J D Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:10:44 -0400 From: H B Elam To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem to conform and refrain from vibration. Harry B382002027 B382000471 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 10:47:43 -0400 From: Will Seay To: H B Elam Cc: Tiger Server Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Clyde, There's only one strap.? In your 1A, the one strap plus Velcro is supposed to do the job.? Some of the flapping may be because your strap isn't tight enough.? The front segment of the strap is supposed to be elastic, and as such will always pull tight between the windshield header and the bow. Most after-market straps are non-elastic, typically made of nylon, similar to seat belt material, and depend on initial fit to provide the correct tension.? If the strap doesn't provide the right tension, you may have some flapping. Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:10 PM H B Elam via Tigers wrote: > Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All > have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others > have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem > to conform and refrain from vibration. > > Harry > B382002027 > B382000471 > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:15:44 -0300 From: Dave Munroe To: Will Seay , H B Elam Cc: Tiger Server Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:27:35 -0700 From: "Buck Trippel" To: "'Will Seay'" ,??? "'H B Elam'" ??? Cc: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Message-ID: <003101d55b59$a050bb40$e0f231c0$@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="UTF-8" Clyde, We totaled 4,700 miles on the round trip from Los Angeles to the TEAE United at La Crosse and virtually all of it had the top up. And virtually no flapping. Our Mk1A has a single nylon seatbelt type strap and Velcro on the sides. When our Tiger was stopped,? the top was supported by the strap. However at speed the top hung limp. We had the cowl vents opened the entire time and, on a few occasions we'd have some flapping. We could eliminate the flapping by opening or closing the windows. Buck mailto:BuckTrippel at Verizon.net? From: Tigers On Behalf Of Will Seay via Tigers Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:48 AM To: H B Elam Cc: Tiger Server Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Clyde, There's only one strap.? In your 1A, the one strap plus Velcro is supposed to do the job.? Some of the flapping may be because your strap isn't tight enough.? The front segment of the strap is supposed to be elastic, and as such will always pull tight between the windshield header and the bow.? Most after-market straps are non-elastic, typically made of nylon, similar to seat belt material, and depend on initial fit to provide the correct tension.? If the strap doesn't provide the right tension, you may have some flapping. Will - 382001570 mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:10 PM H B Elam via Tigers wrote: Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem to conform and refrain from vibration. Harry B382002027 B382000471 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:51:57 -0700 From: J D Johnson To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Nearly 'flapless' Los Angeles soft-top fitment exhibit Emacs! J.D. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rfraser at bluefrog.com Tue Aug 27 10:43:16 2019 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 12:43:16 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Door Latch Adjustment In-Reply-To: <1439152708.2259792.1566755475692@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1439152708.2259792.1566755475692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1439152708.2259792.1566755475692@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401d55cf6$89ef4fd0$9dcdef70$@bluefrog.com> Terry For the most part this is a PITA process ? trial and error until you like the results. I like to put masking tape along an edge or edges so I can see small position changes. Good luck Ron Fraser From: Tigers On Behalf Of Terry Packer via Tigers Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 1:51 PM To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Door Latch Adjustment I'm having some difficulty adjusting the passenger side door strike to get acceptable latching, release and shut lines. With the strike removed, the door swing and alignment looks good. So it's possible accumulated mechanical wear of the latch, strike or both is at play. As the latch strike can be adjust for up/down, in/out and a small amount of rotation, before continuing I was curious to ask whether anyone can recommend a process for aligning the latch components that is more efficient than trial and error? Thanks Terry Packer 9470018 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay.laifman at gmail.com Tue Aug 27 11:38:48 2019 From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 10:38:48 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Door Latch Adjustment In-Reply-To: <000401d55cf6$89ef4fd0$9dcdef70$@bluefrog.com> References: <1439152708.2259792.1566755475692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1439152708.2259792.1566755475692@mail.yahoo.com> <000401d55cf6$89ef4fd0$9dcdef70$@bluefrog.com> Message-ID: If I recall when I did this, one of the rubber pieces did not compress enough because it was too thick or too firm. Maybe remove the rubber and see if it will latch clearly first. Definitely add lots of tape like Ron suggested to make sure without the rubber the door doesn't chip more paint. Adjusting the hinges was super hard. It sounds like maybe you've already got that straight. Keep in mind that the hinge is in essence a wedge. So when you slide it in to the car, it will effectively narrow, pulling the door forward. Visa versa when pushing the hinge out. Also, when these cars were first built, the doors and hinges were already on the car before paint. So there is bare metal between the hinge and door. When I had my Alpine painted, everything was apart. So there were at least 4 layers of paint and 4 layers of primer added for each hinge, which added so much thickness, I couldn't get it right. The door was too far back. So I had to scrape away the paint and primer to narrow it again. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:03 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > Terry > > For the most part this is a PITA process ? trial and error > until you like the results. > > I like to put masking tape along an edge or edges so I can see small > position changes. > > > > Good luck > > Ron Fraser > > > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Terry > Packer via Tigers > *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2019 1:51 PM > *To:* tigers at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Tigers] Door Latch Adjustment > > > > I'm having some difficulty adjusting the passenger side door strike to get > acceptable latching, release and shut lines. With the strike removed, the > door swing and alignment looks good. So it's possible accumulated > mechanical wear of the latch, strike or both is at play. As the latch > strike can be adjust for up/down, in/out and a small amount of rotation, > before continuing I was curious to ask whether anyone can recommend a > process for aligning the latch components that is more efficient than trial > and error? > > > > Thanks > > Terry Packer > > 9470018 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark44124 at gmail.com Wed Aug 28 13:12:52 2019 From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:12:52 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Front Suspension Bushings Message-ID: So what is the consensus on replacement bushings for the A-arms? 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I also used the black urethane bushings but since I have the very early Derik White supplied fulcrum pins from Africa (not upsized) I needed to retain the bushing steel center piece. Unfortunately 19+ years on jackstands so I can?t attest to the durability? From: Mark Rense via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 12:12 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Front Suspension Bushings So what is the consensus on replacement bushings for the A-arms? The last set of rubber ones didn?t last 8 years, three of which the car was in storage. 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URL: From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Wed Aug 28 15:21:31 2019 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 21:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] suspension bushings References: <2120510521.31979.1567027291009.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2120510521.31979.1567027291009@mail.yahoo.com> I have used the latest ones from SS, they are marginal at best, I can't speak to the rubber because they have no age on them yet, but I can speak to the not so good fit, they are loose after installation, ?some didn't even need to be pressed. I bought a set of used lower arms from a member and they came with a set of OEM british bushings and they fit like they are supposed to, ?I then took the set off my car that I had put the SS bushings in and replaced with the arms I got that had the OEM bushings, they were uninstalled in the original package when I got them. I don't remember the part number from the OEM but I googled it to no parts found, it's hard to believe that a basic bushing of that style can't be easily duplicated correctly, Clyde -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tigers at embarqmail.com Wed Aug 28 15:45:28 2019 From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:45:28 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] suspension bushings In-Reply-To: <2120510521.31979.1567027291009@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2120510521.31979.1567027291009.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2120510521.31979.1567027291009@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Has anyone tried the bushings from Rootes Parts: http://www.rootesparts.com/id103.htm They claim that they are the correct "metalastic" type. Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:21 PM clyde mclaughlin via Tigers < tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: > I have used the latest ones from SS, they are marginal at best, I can't > speak to the rubber because they have no age on them yet, but I can speak > to the not so good fit, they are loose after installation, some didn't > even need to be pressed. I bought a set of used lower arms from a member > and they came with a set of OEM british bushings and they fit like they are > supposed to, I then took the set off my car that I had put the SS bushings > in and replaced with the arms I got that had the OEM bushings, they were > uninstalled in the original package when I got them. I don't remember the > part number from the OEM but I googled it to no parts found, it's hard to > believe that a basic bushing of that style can't be easily duplicated > correctly, Clyde > _______________________________________________ > > tigers at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maliburevue at yahoo.com Sat Aug 24 07:18:16 2019 From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] German Sunbeam Club Message-ID: <1507283190.2307292.1566652696125@mail.yahoo.com> These guys look like fun! I love their annual conventions all over Europe. They go from Switzerland to Sweden, great historical locations. Look at the pictures under 'Jahrestreffen' (yearly meeting). They're not into competition, but getting together and driving their cars through the country side. https://www.sunbeamclub.eu/ From bucktrippel at verizon.net Sun Aug 25 09:47:51 2019 From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:47:51 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top TYPO Message-ID: <004901d55b5c$74313b40$5c93b1c0$@verizon.net> Sorry, I meant to write... "at speed the STRAP hung limp..." (My brain is still trying to figure out which time zone we're in.) Buck -----Original Message----- From: Tigers On Behalf Of Buck Trippel via Tigers Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 8:28 AM To: 'Will Seay' ; 'H B Elam' Cc: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Clyde, We totaled 4,700 miles on the round trip from Los Angeles to the TEAE United at La Crosse and virtually all of it had the top up. And virtually no flapping. Our Mk1A has a single nylon seatbelt type strap and Velcro on the sides. When our Tiger was stopped, the top was supported by the strap. However at speed the top hung limp. We had the cowl vents opened the entire time and, on a few occasions we'd have some flapping. We could eliminate the flapping by opening or closing the windows. Buck mailto:BuckTrippel at Verizon.net From: Tigers On Behalf Of Will Seay via Tigers Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:48 AM To: H B Elam Cc: Tiger Server Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible top Clyde, There's only one strap. In your 1A, the one strap plus Velcro is supposed to do the job. Some of the flapping may be because your strap isn't tight enough. The front segment of the strap is supposed to be elastic, and as such will always pull tight between the windshield header and the bow. Most after-market straps are non-elastic, typically made of nylon, similar to seat belt material, and depend on initial fit to provide the correct tension. If the strap doesn't provide the right tension, you may have some flapping. Will - 382001570 mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:10 PM H B Elam via Tigers wrote: Clyde, I have had two Tigers and four tops over the past 40 years. All have had a single strap. At speed some of them have vibrated and others have not. The longer the tops stay erected in the sun, the better they seem to conform and refrain from vibration. Harry B382002027 B382000471 _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel at verizon.net From j_d_johnson at earthlink.net Wed Aug 28 17:02:29 2019 From: j_d_johnson at earthlink.net (J D Johnson) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:02:29 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Convertible top TYPO In-Reply-To: <004901d55b5c$74313b40$5c93b1c0$@verizon.net> References: <004901d55b5c$74313b40$5c93b1c0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: The ultimate remedy for a "limp STRAP". Emacs! J.D. At 08:47 AM 8/25/2019, Buck Trippel via Tigers wrote: >Sorry, > >I meant to write... > "at speed the STRAP hung limp..." > (My brain is still trying to figure out which time zone we're in.) > >Buck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net Thu Aug 29 11:59:51 2019 From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] suspension bushings References: <631353968.307157.1567101591984.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <631353968.307157.1567101591984@mail.yahoo.com> The metalastik bushing number for the lower arm is 13/1408 30, I took this off OEM bushings in a rooted package, clyde On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 Will Seay wrote: Has anyone tried the bushings from Rootes Parts:?http://www.rootesparts.com/id103.htmThey claim that they are the correct "metalastic" type. Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:21 PM clyde mclaughlin via Tigers wrote: I have used the latest ones from SS, they are marginal at best, I can't speak to the rubber because they have no age on them yet, but I can speak to the not so good fit, they are loose after installation, ?some didn't even need to be pressed. I bought a set of used lower arms from a member and they came with a set of OEM british bushings and they fit like they are supposed to, ?I then took the set off my car that I had put the SS bushings in and replaced with the arms I got that had the OEM bushings, they were uninstalled in the original package when I got them. I don't remember the part number from the OEM but I googled it to no parts found, it's hard to believe that a basic bushing of that style can't be easily duplicated correctly, Clyde_______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bucktrippel at verizon.net Thu Aug 29 12:29:42 2019 From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:29:42 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] suspension bushings In-Reply-To: <631353968.307157.1567101591984@mail.yahoo.com> References: <631353968.307157.1567101591984.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <631353968.307157.1567101591984@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601d55e97$ba5c9540$2f15bfc0$@verizon.net> I've had good luck with the Metalastic version I've bought from Sunbeam Spares in the UK. http://sunbeamspares.com/shop/ (note: I did not buy the bushings from the recently formed Sunbeam Alpine Tiger Spares company that is also in the UK. The name similarity is confusing. I have no idea if this different company even sells bushings.) Buck From: Tigers On Behalf Of clyde mclaughlin via Tigers Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:00 AM To: Tigers at embarqmail.com Cc: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] suspension bushings The metalastik bushing number for the lower arm is 13/1408 30, I took this off OEM bushings in a rooted package, clyde ________________________________________ On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 Will Seay wrote: Has anyone tried the bushings from Rootes Parts: http://www.rootesparts.com/id103.htm They claim that they are the correct "metalastic" type. Will - 382001570 mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:21 PM clyde mclaughlin via Tigers wrote: I have used the latest ones from SS, they are marginal at best, I can't speak to the rubber because they have no age on them yet, but I can speak to the not so good fit, they are loose after installation, some didn't even need to be pressed. I bought a set of used lower arms from a member and they came with a set of OEM british bushings and they fit like they are supposed to, I then took the set off my car that I had put the SS bushings in and replaced with the arms I got that had the OEM bushings, they were uninstalled in the original package when I got them. I don't remember the part number from the OEM but I googled it to no parts found, it's hard to believe that a basic bushing of that style can't be easily duplicated correctly, Clyde _______________________________________________ From rfraser at bluefrog.com Thu Aug 29 18:51:06 2019 From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:51:06 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] suspension bushings In-Reply-To: <002601d55e97$ba5c9540$2f15bfc0$@verizon.net> References: <631353968.307157.1567101591984.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <631353968.307157.1567101591984@mail.yahoo.com> <002601d55e97$ba5c9540$2f15bfc0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000b01d55ecd$05158260$0f408720$@bluefrog.com> The Alpine Parts Lists - Upper link bushing - 5220478 Lower link bushing - 5220479 The original manufacturer would most likely have their own part numbers for them. Shop Manual Upper link bushing sleeve has an ID of 1.277" - 1.279" Lower Link bushing sleeve has an ID of 1.152" - 1.154" These are the 1st things you should check when replacing the bushings - measure the IDs and record. I'm not sure what a good press fit size should be - somewhere around .003" bigger maybe.? 2nd thing to check is the OD of the new bushing you have. Many years ago I bought a set of bushings from Tiger Tom and they could be pressed in with finger pressure - not good. I called Tom and he thought he had purged all the undersize bushings from his inventory - a bad batch was made unfortunately. Tom immediately sent me the correct set which needed to be pressed in - much better. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers On Behalf Of Buck Trippel via Tigers Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:30 PM To: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net; Tigers at embarqmail.com Cc: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] suspension bushings I've had good luck with the Metalastic version I've bought from Sunbeam Spares in the UK. http://sunbeamspares.com/shop/ (note: I did not buy the bushings from the recently formed Sunbeam Alpine Tiger Spares company that is also in the UK. The name similarity is confusing. I have no idea if this different company even sells bushings.) Buck From: Tigers On Behalf Of clyde mclaughlin via Tigers Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:00 AM To: Tigers at embarqmail.com Cc: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] suspension bushings The metalastik bushing number for the lower arm is 13/1408 30, I took this off OEM bushings in a rooted package, clyde ________________________________________ On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 Will Seay wrote: Has anyone tried the bushings from Rootes Parts: http://www.rootesparts.com/id103.htm They claim that they are the correct "metalastic" type. Will - 382001570 mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 5:21 PM clyde mclaughlin via Tigers wrote: I have used the latest ones from SS, they are marginal at best, I can't speak to the rubber because they have no age on them yet, but I can speak to the not so good fit, they are loose after installation, some didn't even need to be pressed. I bought a set of used lower arms from a member and they came with a set of OEM british bushings and they fit like they are supposed to, I then took the set off my car that I had put the SS bushings in and replaced with the arms I got that had the OEM bushings, they were uninstalled in the original package when I got them. I don't remember the part number from the OEM but I googled it to no parts found, it's hard to believe that a basic bushing of that style can't be easily duplicated correctly, Clyde _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser at bluefrog.com