[Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping

Fri Mar 20 16:05:08 MDT 2020

That’s who did mine! Glad someone stepped up with that recommendation.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 4:15 PM Randall Antosiak via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request for information
> about engine tag stamping.  As others have pointed out, there are many
> inexpensive stamping kits available, but the problem seems to be finding a
> kit with the right font and a hyphen stamp.  Even if I had such a kit, I'm
> sure it requires practice to make the stamping look professional.
>
> I even visited a typewriter repair store to ask for help, but the owner
> couldn't match the font, and in any case he did not think a typewriter key
> would strike with tag sufficient force to stamp the metal.
>
> In the end I gave up on trying to duplicate the engine tag by myself.  A
> member of the Tiger list sent me a glowing recommendation for Larry
> Atkisson, who charges $50 for the job.  I just sent him my blank plate, so
> I have not yet personally seen his work.  You can contact him at
> catkisson at aol.com.
>
> - Randy
>
>
> On Monday, March 16, 2020, 08:04:03 AM PDT, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dave
>
>                 You are very correct about the Vin plate Font.   Brian
> Glenn wrote an excellent article about this and explains how serif and sans
> serif fonts were both used on the tags.   I believe Pressed Steel stamped
> the vin # and paint code then Jensen stamped the engine #; 2 different
> processes.
>
>
>
> I have a set of 1/8” steel stamps, probably from Harbor Freight made in
> China, which are about the correct size.
>
> Some of the stamps look similar to the original but not all of them.
>
> 0 - is not open enough
>
> 1 - does have a flag
>
> 2 – is not open enough
>
> 3,5,6,9 – are not open enough
>
> The same goes for the letters; some look close others are too tight.
>
>
>
> The Calibri font this email I’m typing with is similar to the original but
> I have not examined this font closely enough.
>
>
>
> I have not explored the Font the Cleveland Foundry may have used on these
> decals.   Ford Corporate seemed to like Franklin font.
>
> I’m of the opinion the Cleveland Foundry stamped and applied the valve
> cover decal.   It was part of their Export engine process and accounting
> process.
>
>
>
> It would seem to me there is a typewriter somewhere that has the correct
> font.
>
> I believe the Cleveland Foundry used something like a typewriter for this
> but the decals were most likely on a ribbon for production purposes.
>
>
>
> It might be necessary to have stamps laser cut to precisely match the
> original font style, size and strike depth.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
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>
> *From:* Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2020 10:23 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; Mark L <CoolVT at aol.com>; Jeffery
> Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
>
>
> Ron;
>
>
>
> As you may recall, my Tiger came to me minus the VIN tag. (Eventually
> TAC'ed at the 2010 TE/AE Annual Event in Rockland, Me.)  No doubt it is
> running around Mass. attached to an Alger with incorrect rivets.
>
>
>
> Ever since, I have been searching the Globe for the correct font type and
> size, to  no avail. To complicate matters, having found and studied many
> many B382XXX VIN plates, it is clear there was more than one set of fonts
> used, often on the same VIN plate.
>
>
>
> It also appears that the font stamp styles may have been unique to the
> U.K., because of all the vintage stamps I have found on the internet from
> North America, none are close to those used to stamp our Tiger VIN' and JAL
> Plates.
>
>
>
> If the engine plates were stamped in U.S. or Canada, the chances of
> finding the correct fonts should be much better.
>
>
>
> If anyone ever comes uo with a set, I am sure I am not the only one who
> would pay dearly for a chance to "rent" them to replace my original plate.
>
>
>
> Dave in Nova Scotia
>
> B382000450LRXFE
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device — via the Bell
> Network
>
> *From:* tigers at autox.team.net
>
> *Sent:* March 14, 2020 9:54 AM
>
> *To:* coolvt at aol.com; jefferyrandall at gmail.com
>
> *Reply to:* rfraser at bluefrog.com
>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
>
>
> The big question here is about the original Font for this decal.
>
>
>
> What style Font?
>
> What size Font?
>
>
>
> I have no expertise in this field so no help there.
>
>
>
> It would be nice if someone can identify the original Font or a Font that
> is very similar.
>
>
>
> It is very possible that is just a typical machinist’s stamp set something
> the Cleveland Foundry normally stocked.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* coolvt at aol.com <coolvt at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2020 7:56 PM
> *To:* jefferyrandall at gmail.com; rfraser at bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
>
>
> Any locksmith shop should have punches they use to stamp keys.  Not sure
> how close they might look to what you need.
>
> Mark L
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/13/2020 7:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> tigers at autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
> Go to harbor freight and buy a set of  punch stamps, use a piece of tape
> to keep the line straight and go for it.
>
>     Jeff
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:18 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Randy
>
>                 Its possible but don’t know for sure – the Cleveland
> Foundry may have used a war surplus dog tag machine for these.
>
> I’m just throwing that out there for the possibility.   Ford made war
> produces and they all needed tags so some sort of war surplus machine is
> possible maybe one Ford already had on hand.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Randall
> Antosiak via Tigers
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2020 3:49 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Request: Engine Tag Stamping
>
>
>
> Hi Tiger People -
>
> I want to replace my worn engine tag.  I got a fresh tag from Rick, but
> the problem is that I cannot find a way to stamp the new tag with the
> engine info.  Anyone have a solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Randy
>
>
>
>
>
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