From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 13:32:29 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 15:32:29 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
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Another seemingly final update ... as a reminder
- Changed intake manifold (Edelbrock Performer, #2121)
- While doing so, discovered oil pump drive shaft was lacking the usual
retaining clip with the predictable result
- Dropped oil pan & sorted that out with a beefed up version (ARP 154-7904)
and 1 piece Fel-Pro oil pan gasket (OS 13260 T)
- Buttoned it all back up & tried firing it up

At this point it was clear that something was amiss with the electrics,
consulted this group for advice ...
- Solenoid activated but starter motor didn't engage
- Checked grounds, all clean, 2 grounding straps discovered
  (1 in the usual place, 1 between LH engine bay support & boss just below
cylinder head)
- Tested solenoid, fine
- That left the original starter motor which once removed was confirmed to
be non-functioning
- Replaced with Summit Racing Protorque (SUM-820055) mini starter
w/integrated solenoid
    - Goes in & out without needing to move or loosen headers, engine
mounts etc.
      (hopefully I'll never have to mess with it again, but if I do big
improvement)
    - Easy access to connections when installed
    - Existing solenoid effectively gets used as a junction block (minimal
rewiring)
    - Finally got a look at the block's casting code (C5AE-6015E)
      (engine isn't original to the car, always wondered ...)
- Fired it up and after a few backfires, got the timing sorted

Of course this is when the heater valve decided to start leaking
aggressively ... classic stuff, replacement will be ordered shortly,
installed, and then I will revisit the timing *just to be sure*.

Cheers to all who have replied on the list & directly - you have all been
most helpful!


On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 11:08, R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs
> to heal ...
> - Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan
> - No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan
>   (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change
> perhaps)
> - New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new
> gasket) installed
> - Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now,
> found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.
>   (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient,
> nice bit of design)
>
> Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but
> certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions
>
> 1) Any suggestions as to cause?
> - Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner
> - Solenoid is less than 2Y old
> - The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure
> began
>
> 2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs
> headers)?
> - It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ
> - I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow
> garage space
> - *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient
> route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)
> - Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil
> pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I
> really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it
> for another day ...)
>
> 3) Any recommendations on whether one of those  "mini starters" would be a
> good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine
> mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?
> - DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on
>> the ?65 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down over the
>> oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.
>> - tried jiggling the rotor
>> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure
>> to the distributor, though I was doing both
>> - tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself
>> in different orientations
>>
>> My next attempts will involve
>> - having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet
>> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to
>> inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered
>>
>> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.
>>
>> Cheers in advance,
>>
>> Rick
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 16:00:07 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 18:00:07 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] ? questions
Message-ID: <CAL1UyNagVBCYTGP0Rgu=z8wgUQCMv_ByLVhkc6PTiQp3KHKH2g@mail.gmail.com>

Looking for some information / advice (now that it is running again,
looking to tidy up a few bits, etc.) which I hope someone can help me with.

1) What size are the hoses which runs to & from the MKI (so S1-SIV Alpines
too I think) heater valve (manifold -> valve -> heater core)?
My heater valve is leaking like a sieve and replacements appear to be
scarce at the moment, so looking to bypass it until it can be rectified.

2) I assume the distributor vacuum line is the standard 3/16"?
Mine is a bit short / tight, does not inspire confidence.

3) What sort of hose is used in the fuel line around the transmission /
engine area?
Mine is a bit mishappen, again does not inspire confidence.

4) Any opinion on spark wire boots - 90 vs 135 degrees?
Looking at ordering a kit to make some up, need to make an all in choice.

Cheers in advance,

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Oct  6 09:39:40 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:39:40 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] ? questions
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Rick

1 ? ?? heater hose from heater core to heater valve or ?T? piece and from valve to temp sender block

All other hoses are 5/8? heater hose

I put a hose interchange list on TEAE web site that can help you 

Sunbeam Specialties carries hoses

 

 

2 ? vacuum hard line is 3/16? with double compression fittings on the original stock line

If you buy a formed vacuum line from one of the Mustang catalogs ? the line is too long and needs to be shortened at each end ? Tiger length is about 25? 

 

3 ? 5/16? fuel line hose ? 4? long ? original hose has a very rough outside texture

 

4 ? the original Ford ignition wires used both 90 and straight

Original style wire sets available in Mustang catalogs like National Parts Depot

If you have headers you may need something better for the heat

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of R Flynn via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2020 6:00 PM
To: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net> <tigers at autox.team.net>
Cc: R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Tigers] ? questions

 

Looking for some information / advice (now that it is running again, looking to tidy up a few bits, etc.) which I hope someone can help me with.

 

1) What size are the hoses which runs to & from the MKI (so S1-SIV Alpines too I think) heater valve (manifold -> valve -> heater core)?

My heater valve is leaking like a sieve and replacements appear to be scarce at the moment, so looking to bypass it until it can be rectified.

 

2) I assume the distributor vacuum line is the standard 3/16"?
Mine is a bit short / tight, does not inspire confidence.

 

3) What sort of hose is used in the fuel line around the transmission / engine area?
Mine is a bit mishappen, again does not inspire confidence.

 

4) Any opinion on spark wire boots - 90 vs 135 degrees?

Looking at ordering a kit to make some up, need to make an all in choice.

 

Cheers in advance,

 

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From jmartiniii at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 10 07:28:47 2020
From: jmartiniii at yahoo.com (Joel Martin)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:28:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Lift Points
References: <1266088347.54437.1602336527628.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1266088347.54437.1602336527628@mail.yahoo.com>

Where exactly are the safest locations for placing the 4 lift arms for raising a Tiger on a 2 post lift?

I piddled away 30 minutes looking for this information on the TEAE website to no avail.  I am sure it probably was there but I could not find it.

Joel

From mwood24020 at aol.com  Sat Oct 10 10:17:37 2020
From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 16:17:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Lift Points
In-Reply-To: <1266088347.54437.1602336527628@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1266088347.54437.1602336527628.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I always just find good, flat spots on the X member front and rear. You may need to block height of pads.


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Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2020 6:39 am
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Lift Points

Where exactly are the safest locations for placing the 4 lift arms for raising a Tiger on a 2 post lift?

I piddled away 30 minutes looking for this information on the TEAE website to no avail.? I am sure it probably was there but I could not find it.

Joel
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From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 13:13:25 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 15:13:25 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?
Message-ID: <CAL1UyNYBRJefjbE2UTaFpb-VisqxabV-+OwsXWe9xmOu75eo+g@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used
between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket
sandwiched in between, photo below)?

The look like maybe 12-24, but I don?t have a tap or die to confirm that ...

It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between
these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!  Going try replacing
it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.

Cheers in advance,

Rick


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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sat Oct 10 15:26:46 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 17:26:46 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?
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I see a #10 UNF x ?? listed with the valve but not sure if that is correct.

Sunbeam Parts Lists are available online.

Check the OD of the threads ? a table I have indicates #10 UNF 24 TPI  OD = .190?

 

For British cars you need UNF tap and dies ? SAE tap and dies will cut metal because they are slightly different.

 

If you have extra bolts ? I like to cut grooves down the threads to make a thread chaser to clean out the threads.

 

For any stuck bolts use penetrating oil or ATF, let them soak overnight if needed.

Hope that helps

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of R Flynn via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 3:13 PM
To: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net> <tigers at autox.team.net>
Cc: R Flynn <flynnr2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?

 

Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwiched in between, photo below)?

 

The look like maybe 12-24, but I don?t have a tap or die to confirm that ...

 

It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!  Going try replacing it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.

 

Cheers in advance,

 

Rick

 

 

 

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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 10 18:37:05 2020
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:37:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?
In-Reply-To: <CAL1UyNYBRJefjbE2UTaFpb-VisqxabV-+OwsXWe9xmOu75eo+g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <928840678.144096.1602376625603@mail.yahoo.com>

 It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" long. On the "donut ring" get the thickest you can find (at least 1/8"), you might also want to put some silicon on it.
David Franchi

    On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwiched in between, photo below)?
The look like maybe 12-24, but I don?t have a tap or die to confirm that ...
It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!? Going try replacing it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.
Cheers in advance,
Rick

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From phastphill at aol.com  Sun Oct 11 10:17:29 2020
From: phastphill at aol.com (phastphill at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 16:17:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?
In-Reply-To: <928840678.144096.1602376625603@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAL1UyNYBRJefjbE2UTaFpb-VisqxabV-+OwsXWe9xmOu75eo+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <928840678.144096.1602376625603@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <328858714.228816.1602433049317@mail.yahoo.com>

please no silicon permatex makes a product called the right stuff? works great instead of a gasket


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Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2020 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?

 It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" long. On the "donut ring" get the thickest you can find (at least 1/8"), you might also want to put some silicon on it.
David Franchi

    On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwiched in between, photo below)?
The look like maybe 12-24, but I don?t have a tap or die to confirm that ...
It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!? Going try replacing it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.
Cheers in advance,
Rick

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From flynnr2 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 12:20:04 2020
From: flynnr2 at gmail.com (R Flynn)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:20:04 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?
In-Reply-To: <928840678.144096.1602376625603@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAL1UyNYBRJefjbE2UTaFpb-VisqxabV-+OwsXWe9xmOu75eo+g@mail.gmail.com>
 <928840678.144096.1602376625603@mail.yahoo.com>
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Cheers all
- Bolts definitely appear to be 10-32 UNF
- That said, those are a tight fit into the threads, might need to chase it
out with a tap to clear out the corrosion ...

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 20:37, D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" long. On the "donut ring" get the thickest you
> can find (at least 1/8"), you might also want to put some silicon on it.
>
> David Franchi
>
> On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used
> between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket
> sandwiched in between, photo below)?
>
> The look like maybe 12-24, but I don?t have a tap or die to confirm that
> ...
>
> It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between
> these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!  Going try replacing
> it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
> Rick
>
>
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 16 10:10:03 2020
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 10:10:03 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Paul almjeld email scammers
Message-ID: <626985174.511096623.1602864603100.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>

I just got an email supposedly from Paul Almjeld, where he is looking for someone to help him buy a gift for his nephew. Just a reminder to everyone that this is a common phishing scam, so don?t fall for it.
On the off chance that it is legit, happy birthday to his nephew and get well soon Paul ;)

Cheers,
Theo

From dave.barakat at icloud.com  Mon Oct 19 11:50:44 2020
From: dave.barakat at icloud.com (Dave Barakat)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:50:44 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Question
Message-ID: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>

Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Oct 19 12:23:04 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:23:04 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Question
In-Reply-To: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
References: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <000701d6a644$e5429020$afc7b060$@bluefrog.com>

Dave

 

Original Ford part #s

clutch disc ? C3OZ-7550-A

Pressure plate ? C2OZ-7563-D

 

This is a long style clutch kit. 

I believe the diaphragm style kits available now is the way to go.

 

You need the Tiger List to jump in here for recommendations.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dave Barakat via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:51 PM
To: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Question

 

Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?

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From dave.barakat at icloud.com  Mon Oct 19 12:25:40 2020
From: dave.barakat at icloud.com (Dave Barakat)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:25:40 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Question
In-Reply-To: <000701d6a644$e5429020$afc7b060$@bluefrog.com>
References: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
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Ron?.thanks?any help/advice/experience in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> Dave
>  
> Original Ford part #s
> clutch disc ? C3OZ-7550-A
> Pressure plate ? C2OZ-7563-D
>  
> This is a long style clutch kit. 
> I believe the diaphragm style kits available now is the way to go.
>  
> You need the Tiger List to jump in here for recommendations.
>  
> Ron Fraser
>  
>  
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Dave Barakat via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:51 PM
> To: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
> Subject: [Tigers] Question
>  
> Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Oct 19 14:32:22 2020
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:32:22 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Question
In-Reply-To: <561804DE-2694-4895-8CD7-584F4A9B5B2C@icloud.com>
References: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
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Dave

                I have seen reference to Center Force clutch kit but no experience with them

Ron Fraser

 

From: Dave Barakat <dave.barakat at icloud.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:26 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question

 

Ron?.thanks?any help/advice/experience in this matter would be greatly appreciated.





On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

 

Dave

 

Original Ford part #s

clutch disc ? C3OZ-7550-A

Pressure plate ? C2OZ-7563-D

 

This is a long style clutch kit. 

I believe the diaphragm style kits available now is the way to go.

 

You need the Tiger List to jump in here for recommendations.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Dave Barakat via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:51 PM
To: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Tigers] Question

 

Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?

 

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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 14:41:31 2020
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:41:31 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z5vBqv2xU3_exgjogQw-_t3V=+1JsH-BiTRaN3Dn-vL=Q@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't seen this mentioned here.  So I thought I'd bring it up:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/

I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a
Monterey race ready Tiger.  I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars
are less than their high end car show brothers.  But $55?

We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.
So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race
ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.  I find it hard to
believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.
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From maliburevue at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 19 14:48:48 2020
From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 20:48:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Question
In-Reply-To: <000001d6a656$f58990c0$e09cb240$@bluefrog.com>
References: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
 <000701d6a644$e5429020$afc7b060$@bluefrog.com>
 <561804DE-2694-4895-8CD7-584F4A9B5B2C@icloud.com>
 <000001d6a656$f58990c0$e09cb240$@bluefrog.com>
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 I use a Centerforce 10" diaphram? clutch, #CF360030 and a Centerforce Gold pressure plate, #CF280490. Works great behind my 331 stroker and wide ratio transmission. Pedal is light and engages smoothly.
Gary
    On Monday, October 19, 2020, 02:40:03 PM MDT, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:  
 
Dave

??????????????? I have seen reference to Center Force clutch kit but no experience with them

Ron Fraser

From: Dave Barakat <dave.barakat at icloud.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:26 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question

Ron?.thanks?any help/advice/experience in this matter would be greatly appreciated.


On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Dave

Original Ford part #s

clutch disc ? C3OZ-7550-A

Pressure plate ? C2OZ-7563-D

This is a long style clutch kit.?

I believe the diaphragm style kits available now is the way to go.

?You need the Tiger List to jump in here for recommendations.

Ron Fraser?

From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Dave Barakat via Tigers
Sent:?Monday, October 19, 2020 1:51 PM
To:?Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject:?[Tigers] Question

Hi Ron?.hope all is well. ? Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source? ?Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us. ?Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?

  
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From mark44124 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 15:01:04 2020
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:01:04 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Question
In-Reply-To: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
References: <45201DD8-6235-402F-AF6C-A90FA42724BE@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CA+8dKTueZRpKBgAK92WW7vOTvrhez5DiCd=F0+48Tm8Yyv231A@mail.gmail.com>

I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a
Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than
a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible.

https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1



Bugz

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is
> the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly
> from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford
> part numbers?
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From cars at wt-inc.com  Mon Oct 19 15:07:30 2020
From: cars at wt-inc.com (Cars)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:07:30 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
In-Reply-To: <CAAjp1z5vBqv2xU3_exgjogQw-_t3V=+1JsH-BiTRaN3Dn-vL=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAjp1z5vBqv2xU3_exgjogQw-_t3V=+1JsH-BiTRaN3Dn-vL=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5FD72301-28E9-4B8A-AE47-D1E4A83EE91E@wt-inc.com>

It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I haven't seen this mentioned here.  So I thought I'd bring it up:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/
> 
> I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.  I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.  But $55?
> 
> We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.  So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.  I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.
> 
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 15:09:27 2020
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:09:27 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
In-Reply-To: <5FD72301-28E9-4B8A-AE47-D1E4A83EE91E@wt-inc.com>
References: <CAAjp1z5vBqv2xU3_exgjogQw-_t3V=+1JsH-BiTRaN3Dn-vL=Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <5FD72301-28E9-4B8A-AE47-D1E4A83EE91E@wt-inc.com>
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Ah, no.  That was not my point.  One of the commenters was saying that he could easily buy a Monterey race ready Tiger for half of the current bid.  It seemed he was questioning whether the extra cost is worth it for this car?s history.



On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Cars <cars at wt-inc.com> wrote:

It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I haven't seen this mentioned here.  So I thought I'd bring it up:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/ <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/>
> 
> I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.  I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.  But $55?
> 
> We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.  So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.  I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.
> 
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From cars at wt-inc.com  Mon Oct 19 15:27:43 2020
From: cars at wt-inc.com (cars at wt-inc.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:27:43 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
In-Reply-To: <C3814790-D63B-4C2D-BBBD-887DFCFA3714@gmail.com>
References: <CAAjp1z5vBqv2xU3_exgjogQw-_t3V=+1JsH-BiTRaN3Dn-vL=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Apologies.

 

I agree with you.  No way!!  Not sure you could by a tiger that would be worth racing for $55k

 

From: Jay <jay.laifman at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 3:09 PM
To: Cars <cars at wt-inc.com>
Cc: Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer

 

Ah, no.  That was not my point.  One of the commenters was saying that he could easily buy a Monterey race ready Tiger for half of the current bid.  It seemed he was questioning whether the extra cost is worth it for this car?s history.

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Cars <cars at wt-inc.com <mailto:cars at wt-inc.com> > wrote:

 

It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device





On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

I haven't seen this mentioned here.  So I thought I'd bring it up:

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/

 

I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.  I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.  But $55?

 

We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.  So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.  I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.

 

 

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From bucktrippel at verizon.net  Mon Oct 19 16:27:37 2020
From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:27:37 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
In-Reply-To: <002201d6a65e$aea4a250$0bede6f0$@wt-inc.com>
References: <CAAjp1z5vBqv2xU3_exgjogQw-_t3V=+1JsH-BiTRaN3Dn-vL=Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <5FD72301-28E9-4B8A-AE47-D1E4A83EE91E@wt-inc.com>
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 <002201d6a65e$aea4a250$0bede6f0$@wt-inc.com>
Message-ID: <01b701d6a667$0cff2b60$26fd8220$@verizon.net>

Here?s my 2 cents worth: I doubt a $55K Tiger would perform there in a way that would thrill most Tiger owners. Some in the Ap/Bp class spend over $50K for one competitive legal 289 SFB race engine. (not me) (And it?s always nice to have a spare.) 

 

This ?Bp? class is for production cars. In the past the Monster has been allowed to run in it. Other prototypes have run in it as well when their performance matches the ?Bp? class better than those in the official prototype class. But that was in the past. I have no idea what the future will be with the new changes at Laguna Seca.

 

One thing that?s for sure ? The ?Monster? is one awesome machine!

 

Buck Trippel

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of cars--- via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:28 PM
To: 'Jay' <jay.laifman at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Tigers' <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer

 

Apologies.

 

I agree with you.  No way!!  Not sure you could by a tiger that would be worth racing for $55k

 

From: Jay <jay.laifman at gmail.com <mailto:jay.laifman at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 3:09 PM
To: Cars <cars at wt-inc.com <mailto:cars at wt-inc.com> >
Cc: Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer

 

Ah, no.  That was not my point.  One of the commenters was saying that he could easily buy a Monterey race ready Tiger for half of the current bid.  It seemed he was questioning whether the extra cost is worth it for this car?s history.

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Cars <cars at wt-inc.com <mailto:cars at wt-inc.com> > wrote:

 

It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device

 

On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

I haven't seen this mentioned here.  So I thought I'd bring it up:

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/

 

I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.  I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.  But $55?

 

We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.  So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.  I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.

 

 

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From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net  Mon Oct 19 17:00:28 2020
From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 23:00:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 230
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that is one cool Tiger, it would be fun to put tags on it, and treat the spectators at cars and coffee any where, Clyde


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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:01:04 -0400
From: Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com>
To: Dave Barakat <dave.barakat at icloud.com>
Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
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I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a
Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than
a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible.

https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1



Bugz

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Ron?.hope all is well.? Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is
> the best place SS or do you have a better source?? Or can I order directly
> from Ford which is right next to us.? Does anyone have the correct Ford
> part numbers?
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From: Cars <cars at wt-inc.com>
To: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com>
Cc: Tiger's Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
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It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I haven't seen this mentioned here.? So I thought I'd bring it up:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/
> 
> I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.? I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.? But $55?
> 
> We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.? So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.? I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From: Jay <jay.laifman at gmail.com>
To: Cars <cars at wt-inc.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
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Ah, no.? That was not my point.? One of the commenters was saying that he could easily buy a Monterey race ready Tiger for half of the current bid.? It seemed he was questioning whether the extra cost is worth it for this car?s history.



On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Cars <cars at wt-inc.com> wrote:

It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> ?
> I haven't seen this mentioned here.? So I thought I'd bring it up:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/ <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/>
> 
> I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.? I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.? But $55?
> 
> We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.? So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.? I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:27:43 -0600
From: <cars at wt-inc.com>
To: "'Jay'" <jay.laifman at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer
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Apologies.

 

I agree with you.? No way!!? Not sure you could by a tiger that would be worth racing for $55k

 

From: Jay <jay.laifman at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 3:09 PM
To: Cars <cars at wt-inc.com>
Cc: Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Monster Tiger for sale on Bring a Trailer

 

Ah, no.? That was not my point.? One of the commenters was saying that he could easily buy a Monterey race ready Tiger for half of the current bid.? It seemed he was questioning whether the extra cost is worth it for this car?s history.

 

 

 

On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Cars <cars at wt-inc.com <mailto:cars at wt-inc.com> > wrote:

 

It?s not. It is now $115k

Sent from my mobile device





On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

I haven't seen this mentioned here.? So I thought I'd bring it up:

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-race-car/

 

I note that one of the commenters says that for $55,000 someone can buy a Monterey race ready Tiger.? I know that some race cars from 60s sports cars are less than their high end car show brothers.? But $55?

 

We're restoring a 1962 Elva MkVI right now with full sights on Monterey.? So both historically accurate, immaculate as can be, but 100% full race ready - every part as strong and straight as should be.? I find it hard to believe a Tiger in comparable condition would be $55,000.

 

 

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From rtscolgan at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 20 04:27:53 2020
From: rtscolgan at yahoo.com (Russ and Tammy C.)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:27:53 -0000
Subject: [Tigers] Russ and Tammy C.
Message-ID: <109011FC-DCE1-49CA-BD79-C20A7EB3584D@yahoo.com>

tigers

https://bit.ly/3jiMwN9












Notably, this deal works on the site?s clearance section as well, which has glasses available starting at under $3, so these deals are so bright that you?re gonna need shades. You?ll get free shipping on orders over $25, so stock up.









Haley Nahman, writing for ManRepeller, reports on interviewing Perel about the sheer havoc that having kids wreaks on your relationship (and really, your immediate family and community). In short, American families are raising children under trying conditions?isolation, extreme fatigue, and overscheduling, among other problems. The average parent doesn?t necessarily have the resources to buck this whole culture, but there are a few minor tweaks that we can make to hang on to our sanity and our relationships while raising kids.
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From tkparker1941 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 07:50:14 2020
From: tkparker1941 at gmail.com (Tom Parker)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:50:14 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Russ and Tammy C.
In-Reply-To: <109011FC-DCE1-49CA-BD79-C20A7EB3584D@yahoo.com>
References: <109011FC-DCE1-49CA-BD79-C20A7EB3584D@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAE3_YO9QG6hh-EfWPuj3tFrbc+BD-dvPHoB2nUBk8Oz-Boeqcg@mail.gmail.com>

So... We're pushing CBD now?


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> tigers
>
> https://bit.ly/3jiMwN9
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Notably, this deal works on the site?s clearance section as well, which
> has glasses available starting at under $3, so these deals are so bright
> that you?re gonna need shades. You?ll get free shipping on orders over $25,
> so stock up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Haley Nahman, writing for ManRepeller, reports on interviewing Perel about
> the sheer havoc that having kids wreaks on your relationship (and really,
> your immediate family and community). In short, American families are rais
> ing children under trying conditions?isolation, extreme fatigue, and
> overscheduling, among other problems. The average parent doesn?t
> necessarily have the resources to buck this whole culture, but there are a
> few minor tweaks that we can make to hang on to our sanity and our
> relationships while raising kids.
> hpibnp Blithe fluxibly racemize
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> pzchitak business sunflower deb.
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Oct 20 18:14:25 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:14:25 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Russ and Tammy C.
In-Reply-To: <CAE3_YO9QG6hh-EfWPuj3tFrbc+BD-dvPHoB2nUBk8Oz-Boeqcg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/20/20 7:50 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
> So... We're pushing CBD now?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     tigers
>

[spam deleted]

I try to keep the server updated with various anti-spam apps, but it 
isn't perfect.? When someone gets their account hacked it's hard to 
filter out real list emails from garbage like this.? Sorry folks.

mjb. your overpaid and underworked list admin.



From lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 20 18:23:54 2020
From: lovemygirls365 at yahoo.com (Derrick Schmidt)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 00:23:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Russ and Tammy C.
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I commend you for the infrequency of such making to the list.?
Derrick?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 5:22 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

On 10/20/20 7:50 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
> So... We're pushing CBD now?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
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>

[spam deleted]

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From jmartiniii at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 21 13:21:41 2020
From: jmartiniii at yahoo.com (Joel Martin)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 19:21:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 233
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 No matter. ?We definitely appreciate your efforts. ?This is by far the most productive forum/group regarding Sunbeams. ?The forum architecture and the participation is the best.
Thank you again for all your efforts.
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On 10/20/20 7:50 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
> So... We're pushing CBD now?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
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[spam deleted]

I try to keep the server updated with various anti-spam apps, but it 
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mjb. your overpaid and underworked list admin.




I commend you for the infrequency of such making to the list.?
Derrick?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 5:22 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

On 10/20/20 7:50 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
> So... We're pushing CBD now?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers 
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From dave at munroe.ca  Wed Oct 21 14:25:14 2020
From: dave at munroe.ca (Dave Munroe)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 17:25:14 -0300
Subject: [Tigers] Question
In-Reply-To: <CA+8dKTueZRpKBgAK92WW7vOTvrhez5DiCd=F0+48Tm8Yyv231A@mail.gmail.com>
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Guys;

I have had two Centerforce clutch packs on my non-stock 289 block: one
after I bought it and did a mild workover of the engine, and one much
later after having the totally worn out engine completely rebuilt to a much
higher state of tune.
At the time (15 years ago for stage one build it was just the new clutch, a
new alloy rad, carb etc). 10 years later the engine was bored and stroked,
new rotating assembly,pistons,intake manifold, 4 barrel 600cfm carb,roller
hydraulic cam, roller tipped rockers, etc etc.

These excellent clutches at the time were sized according to the engine
torque. My first Centerforce clutch was good for 300 ft lbs; the second was
good for 400 ft lb. ( my engine was now showing 349ft lbs at the crank.)
Both clutches were easy on the leg - very easy  to shove in the pedal.
They're smooth on the release, and could take a high rpm drag race start
very smoothly. After some 30k miles, still performing as new.

I highly recommend them.

Dave



On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:07 PM Mark Rense via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and
> a Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure
> than a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible.
>
> https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1
>
>
>
> Bugz
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is
>> the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly
>> from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford
>> part numbers?
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 17:20:23 2020
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 19:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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I agree re Centerforce. I just today started my 1964 HiPo 289 Fairlane with the Centerforce. It was quite smooth both in first and in reverse.

I like that setup.

 

Don Antilla 

Southbury, CT

203-264-8301 Home

203-592-8427 Cell

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Dave Munroe via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca>
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 4:25 PM
To: Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question

 

Guys;

 

I have had two Centerforce clutch packs on my non-stock 289 block: one after I bought it and did a mild workover of the engine, and one much later after having the totally worn out engine completely rebuilt to a much higher state of tune. 

At the time (15 years ago for stage one build it was just the new clutch, a new alloy rad, carb etc). 10 years later the engine was bored and stroked, new rotating assembly,pistons,intake manifold, 4 barrel 600cfm carb,roller hydraulic cam, roller tipped rockers, etc etc.

 

These excellent clutches at the time were sized according to the engine torque. My first Centerforce clutch was good for 300 ft lbs; the second was good for 400 ft lb. ( my engine was now showing 349ft lbs at the crank.)

Both clutches were easy on the leg - very easy  to shove in the pedal. They're smooth on the release, and could take a high rpm drag race start very smoothly. After some 30k miles, still performing as new.

 

I highly recommend them.

 

Dave

 

 

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:07 PM Mark Rense via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible. 

 

https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1

 

 

 

Bugz

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?

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From dave.barakat at icloud.com  Wed Oct 21 17:46:01 2020
From: dave.barakat at icloud.com (Dave Barakat)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:46:01 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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Dave, et al?..sounds like that is the way do go.   Looks like Centerforce  has the disc, pressure plate and throwout bearing but no pilot bearing. Any thoughts on what to use for the pilot bearing?.where did you get yours!

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca> wrote:
> 
> Guys;
> 
> I have had two Centerforce clutch packs on my non-stock 289 block: one after I bought it and did a mild workover of the engine, and one much later after having the totally worn out engine completely rebuilt to a much higher state of tune. 
> At the time (15 years ago for stage one build it was just the new clutch, a new alloy rad, carb etc). 10 years later the engine was bored and stroked, new rotating assembly,pistons,intake manifold, 4 barrel 600cfm carb,roller hydraulic cam, roller tipped rockers, etc etc.
>  
> These excellent clutches at the time were sized according to the engine torque. My first Centerforce clutch was good for 300 ft lbs; the second was good for 400 ft lb. ( my engine was now showing 349ft lbs at the crank.)
> Both clutches were easy on the leg - very easy  to shove in the pedal. They're smooth on the release, and could take a high rpm drag race start very smoothly. After some 30k miles, still performing as new.
> 
> I highly recommend them.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:07 PM Mark Rense via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible. 
> 
> https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1 <https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1>
> 
> 
> Bugz
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?
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From mark44124 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 18:22:05 2020
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 20:22:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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These work well for street engines. I still prefer bronze bushing for
racing.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-racing-pilot-bearing-roller-289-302-351-1965-1995/p/M7600A/

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From dave.barakat at icloud.com  Wed Oct 21 19:02:06 2020
From: dave.barakat at icloud.com (Dave Barakat)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:02:06 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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Mark?thanks.  Will work ok for 260 CU?

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> These work well for street engines. I still prefer bronze bushing for racing. 
> 
> https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-racing-pilot-bearing-roller-289-302-351-1965-1995/p/M7600A/ <https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-racing-pilot-bearing-roller-289-302-351-1965-1995/p/M7600A/>
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From jliny5 at cox.net  Fri Oct 23 06:26:35 2020
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:26:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Sun Visors Wanted
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Hello All

I am looking for a pair of original sun visors for a MkI with the small mirror. These visors were rectangular and without notches. See photo. I would prefer excellent condition, although pretty much any condition will do. If in bad shape I can use as basis to restore.

Thanks

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From sjhcobra1 at cs.com  Thu Oct 22 06:29:21 2020
From: sjhcobra1 at cs.com (Steve Halbrook)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:29:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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I have used Centerforce clutches in three Tigers, a Mustang K-Code, a Mach 1 and a 351 Windsor Cobra replica andrecommend them highly.
Steve Halbrook


-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca>; Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2020 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question

#yiv6672725102 #yiv6672725102 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv6672725102 #yiv6672725102 p.yiv6672725102MsoNormal, #yiv6672725102 li.yiv6672725102MsoNormal, #yiv6672725102 div.yiv6672725102MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv6672725102 a:link, #yiv6672725102 span.yiv6672725102MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6672725102 span.yiv6672725102gmaildefault {}#yiv6672725102 span.yiv6672725102EmailStyle19 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv6672725102 .yiv6672725102MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv6672725102 div.yiv6672725102WordSection1 {}#yiv6672725102 I agree re Centerforce. I just today started my 1964 HiPo 289 Fairlane with the Centerforce. It was quite smooth both in first and in reverse.I like that setup. ?Don Antilla Southbury, CT203-264-8301 Home203-592-8427 Cell ? ?From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Dave Munroe via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca>
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 4:25 PM
To: Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question ?Guys; ?I have had two Centerforce clutch packs on my non-stock 289 block: one after I bought it and did a mild workover of the engine, and one much later?after having the totally worn out engine completely rebuilt to a much higher state of tune.?At the time (15 years ago for stage one build it was just the new clutch, a new alloy rad, carb etc). 10 years later the engine was bored and stroked, new rotating assembly,pistons,intake manifold, 4 barrel 600cfm carb,roller hydraulic cam, roller tipped rockers, etc etc.?These excellent clutches at the time were sized according to the engine torque. My first Centerforce clutch was good for 300 ft lbs; the second was good for 400 ft lb. ( my engine was now showing 349ft lbs at the crank.)Both clutches were easy on the leg - very easy? to shove in the pedal. They're smooth on the release, and could take a high rpm drag race start very smoothly. After some 30k miles, still performing as new. ?I highly recommend?them. ?Dave ? ? ?On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:07 PM Mark Rense via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible.? ?https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1 ? ? ?Bugz ?On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi Ron?.hope all is well. ? Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?? Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.? Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?_______________________________________________



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From mwood24020 at aol.com  Sat Oct 24 08:30:29 2020
From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 14:30:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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Centerforce diaphragm-type is a no brainer, unless pushing serious HP. I can't imagine any reason to run an old long-style clutch in a Tiger, by the time you get decent clamping power, you're getting a serious left leg workout every time you use it :).Mike


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question

I have used Centerforce clutches in three Tigers, a Mustang K-Code, a Mach 1 and a 351 Windsor Cobra replica andrecommend them highly.
Steve Halbrook


-----Original Message-----
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To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca>; Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question

#yiv0111746376 -- filtered {}#yiv0111746376 filtered {}#yiv0111746376 filtered {}#yiv0111746376 p.yiv0111746376MsoNormal, #yiv0111746376 li.yiv0111746376MsoNormal, #yiv0111746376 div.yiv0111746376MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0111746376 a:link, #yiv0111746376 span.yiv0111746376MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0111746376 span.yiv0111746376gmaildefault {}#yiv0111746376 span.yiv0111746376EmailStyle19 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv0111746376 .yiv0111746376MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv0111746376 filtered {}#yiv0111746376 div.yiv0111746376WordSection1 {}#yiv0111746376 I agree re Centerforce. I just today started my 1964 HiPo 289 Fairlane with the Centerforce. It was quite smooth both in first and in reverse.I like that setup. ?Don Antilla Southbury, CT203-264-8301 Home203-592-8427 Cell ? ?From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Dave Munroe via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca>
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 4:25 PM
To: Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question ?Guys; ?I have had two Centerforce clutch packs on my non-stock 289 block: one after I bought it and did a mild workover of the engine, and one much later?after having the totally worn out engine completely rebuilt to a much higher state of tune.?At the time (15 years ago for stage one build it was just the new clutch, a new alloy rad, carb etc). 10 years later the engine was bored and stroked, new rotating assembly,pistons,intake manifold, 4 barrel 600cfm carb,roller hydraulic cam, roller tipped rockers, etc etc.?These excellent clutches at the time were sized according to the engine torque. My first Centerforce clutch was good for 300 ft lbs; the second was good for 400 ft lb. ( my engine was now showing 349ft lbs at the crank.)Both clutches were easy on the leg - very easy? to shove in the pedal. They're smooth on the release, and could take a high rpm drag race start very smoothly. After some 30k miles, still performing as new. ?I highly recommend?them. ?Dave ? ? ?On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:07 PM Mark Rense via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible.? ?https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1 ? ? ?Bugz ?On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi Ron?.hope all is well. ? Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?? Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.? Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?_______________________________________________



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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 19:42:35 2020
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:42:35 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] TAC event East Coast
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Any chance of having a TAC session in the Northeast any time soon???
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From dave.barakat at icloud.com  Sat Oct 24 10:25:38 2020
From: dave.barakat at icloud.com (Dave Barakat)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 09:25:38 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Question
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Steve?thanks for your input!

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 5:29 AM, Steve Halbrook via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I have used Centerforce clutches in three Tigers, a Mustang K-Code, a Mach 1 and a 351 Windsor Cobra replica andrecommend them highly.
> 
> Steve Halbrook
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
> To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca <mailto:dave at munroe.ca>>; Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com <mailto:mark44124 at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2020 7:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question
> 
> I agree re Centerforce. I just today started my 1964 HiPo 289 Fairlane with the Centerforce. It was quite smooth both in first and in reverse.
> I like that setup.
>  
> Don Antilla 
> Southbury, CT
> 203-264-8301 Home
> 203-592-8427 Cell
>  
>  
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of Dave Munroe via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
> Reply-To: Dave Munroe <dave at munroe.ca <mailto:dave at munroe.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 4:25 PM
> To: Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com <mailto:mark44124 at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Question
>  
> Guys;
>  
> I have had two Centerforce clutch packs on my non-stock 289 block: one after I bought it and did a mild workover of the engine, and one much later after having the totally worn out engine completely rebuilt to a much higher state of tune. 
> At the time (15 years ago for stage one build it was just the new clutch, a new alloy rad, carb etc). 10 years later the engine was bored and stroked, new rotating assembly,pistons,intake manifold, 4 barrel 600cfm carb,roller hydraulic cam, roller tipped rockers, etc etc.
>  
> These excellent clutches at the time were sized according to the engine torque. My first Centerforce clutch was good for 300 ft lbs; the second was good for 400 ft lb. ( my engine was now showing 349ft lbs at the crank.)
> Both clutches were easy on the leg - very easy  to shove in the pedal. They're smooth on the release, and could take a high rpm drag race start very smoothly. After some 30k miles, still performing as new.
>  
> I highly recommend them.
>  
> Dave
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 6:07 PM Mark Rense via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> I run Centerforce clutches in my cars, a Centerforce I in the 289 car and a Centerforce II in the stroker 331 car. Both are lighter pedal pressure than a stock clutch and are pretty much indestructible. 
>  
> https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1 <https://www.centerforce.com/products?car=54-1566-1965&clev=0&hs=1>
>  
>  
>  
> Bugz
>  
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dave Barakat via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Hi Ron?.hope all is well.   Need to source a clutch kit for my MK1-A. Is the best place SS or do you have a better source?  Or can I order directly from Ford which is right next to us.  Does anyone have the correct Ford part numbers?
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