From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Sun Jan  2 16:17:54 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2022 18:17:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt
Message-ID: <1040215546.749879.1641165478584@verizon.net>

If you run one of the smaller diameter water pump pulleys does the normal size fan belt work.? If not, what belt would be correct?Jim DSent from my Galaxy
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sun Jan  2 19:30:38 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 21:30:38 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt
In-Reply-To: <1040215546.749879.1641165478584@verizon.net>
References: <1040215546.749879.1641165478584@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000b01d80049$e5a94d00$b0fbe700$@bluefrog.com>

Jim

                For the standard fan belt to work with a smaller pulley you would need to have the adjustment range on your generator or alternator bracket.

 

When I converted from a generator to alternator I needed to change the fan belt to 47?.

 

Stock Tiger fan belts

 

Mk I       1229823                RHD       50.75? x 15/32

 

                6100024                C2OZ-8620-E      Fan belt/ generator         LHD

Size ? 50.1? x 15/32         J number ? JB-501

 

Mk II      6100853                C2TZ-8620-H       Fan belt / alternator

Size ? 47.2 x 15/32           J number ? JB-472

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:18 PM
To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt

 

If you run one of the smaller diameter water pump pulleys does the normal size fan belt work.  If not, what belt would be correct?

 

Jim D

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Sun Jan  2 20:29:59 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2022 22:29:59 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt
In-Reply-To: <000b01d80049$e5a94d00$b0fbe700$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <1518784207.42282.1641180603215@verizon.net>

Thanks Ron.? I'll be running a generator.? Guess I'll have to wait until I get it together.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/2/22  9:30 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt Jim??????????????? For the standard fan belt to work with a smaller pulley you would need to have the adjustment range on your generator or alternator bracket.?When I converted from a generator to alternator I needed to change the fan belt to 47?.?Stock Tiger fan belts?Mk I?????? 1229823??????????????? RHD?????? 50.75? x 15/32???????????????? 6100024??????????????? C2OZ-8620-E????? Fan belt/ generator???????? LHDSize ? 50.1? x 15/32???????? J number ? JB-501?Mk II????? 6100853??????????????? C2TZ-8620-H?????? Fan belt / alternatorSize ? 47.2 x 15/32?????????? J number ? JB-472?Ron Fraser???From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via TigersSent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:18 PMTo: tigers at Autox.Team.NetSubject: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt?If you run one of the smaller diameter water pump pulleys does the normal size fan belt work.? If not, what belt would be correct??Jim D???Sent from my Galaxy?
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From jliny5 at cox.net  Mon Jan  3 06:21:42 2022
From: jliny5 at cox.net (James Lindner)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:21:42 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Fan Belt
In-Reply-To: <1040215546.749879.1641165478584@verizon.net>
References: <1040215546.749879.1641165478584@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <D4944E6D-9FFD-4794-BB7B-6DBC6EF0550F@cox.net>

Same belt worked for me.

Jim

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 2, 2022, at 6:18 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> If you run one of the smaller diameter water pump pulleys does the normal size fan belt work.  If not, what belt would be correct?
> 
> Jim D
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> Sent from my Galaxy
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Thu Jan  6 14:18:43 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 16:18:43 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
Message-ID: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>

One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Thu Jan  6 15:34:41 2022
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 17:34:41 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>
References: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAGiVA4Z13LQsv_vroBNUC8m6Gn=jDSdXtVW8=z0ywEYT3KDn7Q@mail.gmail.com>

I get mine from Sunbeam Specialties.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:19 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company
> sticker.  Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.  The Mustang has
> the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.  Would anyone
> know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?  I
> believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a
> set.  The picture is from the set I get years ago.
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Thu Jan  6 15:57:13 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 17:57:13 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <CAGiVA4Z13LQsv_vroBNUC8m6Gn=jDSdXtVW8=z0ywEYT3KDn7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <631616755.414082.1641509837020@verizon.net>

I will check with Rick. The Mustang ones are 3 inches instead of 2.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com> Date: 1/6/22  5:34 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker I get mine from Sunbeam Specialties.On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:19 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.Jim DSent from my Galaxy_______________________________________________

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jan  6 17:15:10 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 19:15:10 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>
References: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <001301d8035b$a2e58e10$e8b0aa30$@bluefrog.com>

Jim

                I have a C5ZZ sill plate in front of me ? it is 3? x 1?.

I believe all Ford sill plates are made from very thin aluminum sheet that is stamped or imposed with the Ford logo and printing.

 

The valve cover sticker is smaller ? 2? x 11/16? and more like a decal.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 4:19 PM
To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker

 

One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.  Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.  The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.  Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?  I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.  The picture is from the set I get years ago.

 

Jim D

 

 

 

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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Thu Jan  6 18:13:42 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 20:13:42 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <001301d8035b$a2e58e10$e8b0aa30$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <633866090.536897.1641518025939@verizon.net>

Thanks Ron, I'll check with Rick and see if he has the right one.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/6/22  7:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker Jim??????????????? I have a C5ZZ sill plate in front of me ? it is 3? x 1?.I believe all Ford sill plates are made from very thin aluminum sheet that is stamped or imposed with the Ford logo and printing.?The valve cover sticker is smaller ? 2? x 11/16? and more like a decal.?Ron Fraser???From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via TigersSent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 4:19 PMTo: tigers at Autox.Team.NetSubject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker?One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.?Jim D???Sent from my Galaxy?
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From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net  Thu Jan  6 18:40:38 2022
From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 01:40:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] valve cover ID tag
References: <784193953.1529883.1641519638918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <784193953.1529883.1641519638918@mail.yahoo.com>

I have one from one of my old cars here on my desk, it measures 3 11/16" long X 2 1/8" wide...6124-B19KC eng, C4PZ-6001-CF model, 60-2632 S.O. Number..Clyde
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Jan  6 20:56:56 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 22:56:56 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] valve cover ID tag
In-Reply-To: <784193953.1529883.1641519638918@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <784193953.1529883.1641519638918.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <784193953.1529883.1641519638918@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901d8037a$9e106e40$da314ac0$@bluefrog.com>

Clyde

                That is the Sunbeam LTD sticker with engine info, we are discussing the smaller Ford sticker on the other valve cover.

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of clyde mclaughlin via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 8:41 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] valve cover ID tag

 

I have one from one of my old cars here on my desk, it measures 3 11/16" long X 2 1/8" wide...6124-B19KC eng, C4PZ-6001-CF model, 60-2632 S.O. Number..Clyde

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From blance598 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  7 12:54:57 2022
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Spark plugs
Message-ID: <CACQC2nU1LC=jJhkT2N-vLKGBgzDAeA-7XdXpg6kMKMZWfq0rjw@mail.gmail.com>

So I've looked in the forums and the answers range every where.  My Tiger
is totally stock 2barrel 260.  Plugs have been in long enough.
What's the consensus in Autolight . Also going to neg ground, any ideas on
that subject?  Thanks in advance.  Beau
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Fri Jan  7 13:48:45 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 15:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nU1LC=jJhkT2N-vLKGBgzDAeA-7XdXpg6kMKMZWfq0rjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nU1LC=jJhkT2N-vLKGBgzDAeA-7XdXpg6kMKMZWfq0rjw@mail.gmail.com>
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Lance

 

The original spark plug for the 260 and 289 ? B8A-12405A.

 

Current equivalents ? Autolite 45 ? Motorcraft BF-42

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp via Tigers
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 2:55 PM
To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Spark plugs

 

So I've looked in the forums and the answers range every where.  My Tiger is totally stock 2barrel 260.  Plugs have been in long enough. 

What's the consensus in Autolight . Also going to neg ground, any ideas on that subject?  Thanks in advance.  Beau 

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Fri Jan  7 14:57:40 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 16:57:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Spark plugs
In-Reply-To: <001501d80407$f7687590$e63960b0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CACQC2nU1LC=jJhkT2N-vLKGBgzDAeA-7XdXpg6kMKMZWfq0rjw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1072980816.680630.1641592660161@connect.xfinity.com>

I have always run BF-42 in my 260..

You are GOING to neg ground??   Tigers are ALREADY neg ground!
Gary


>     On 01/07/2022 3:48 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Lance
> 
> 
>     The original spark plug for the 260 and 289 ? B8A-12405A.
> 
> 
>     Current equivalents ? Autolite 45 ? Motorcraft BF-42
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
>     From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp via Tigers
>     Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 2:55 PM
>     To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers at autox.team.net>
>     Subject: [Tigers] Spark plugs
> 
> 
>     So I've looked in the forums and the answers range every where.  My Tiger is totally stock 2barrel 260.  Plugs have been in long enough. 
> 
>     What's the consensus in Autolight . Also going to neg ground, any ideas on that subject?  Thanks in advance.  Beau 
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Fri Jan  7 15:08:32 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:08:32 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FW:  Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <289895685.17991.1641593322373@verizon.net>

As a follow up. Rick doesn't have the Product of Ford Motor Company valve cover sticker.? Not sure if he is just out or no longer carrying them, as I wasn't the one who spoke with him. I assume its usage was on Tigers only and not used on any other vehicle.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/6/22  4:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Fri Jan  7 16:57:28 2022
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 18:57:28 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FW: Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <289895685.17991.1641593322373@verizon.net>
References: <174787351.496237.1641503929241@verizon.net>
 <289895685.17991.1641593322373@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAGiVA4ZEVKR+AEGov1Zcb4UD0RVNhoobx16A1ri79qGDFUcDog@mail.gmail.com>

I must've got the last one in June when I bought my repop valve covers. If
you could take that sample shown in the photo you posted to a silk screen
type print shop I'll bet they could make you some. I had some  "Sunbeam
260" stickers made for the side emblems that glue right over a 1725 badge
and look great.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:09 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> As a follow up. Rick doesn't have the Product of Ford Motor Company valve
> cover sticker.  Not sure if he is just out or no longer carrying them, as I
> wasn't the one who spoke with him. I assume its usage was on Tigers only
> and not used on any other vehicle.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/6/22 4:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
>
> One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company
> sticker.  Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.  The Mustang has
> the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.  Would anyone
> know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?  I
> believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a
> set.  The picture is from the set I get years ago.
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Fri Jan  7 17:08:39 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 19:08:39 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FW: Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
In-Reply-To: <CAGiVA4ZEVKR+AEGov1Zcb4UD0RVNhoobx16A1ri79qGDFUcDog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1447768160.19081.1641600522153@verizon.net>

May have to if Rick doesn't restock.? More people will need them now that the cast aluminum valve cover are $600.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com> Date: 1/7/22  6:57 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker I must've got the last one in June when I bought my repop valve covers. If you could take that sample shown in the photo you posted to a silk screen type print shop I'll bet they could make you some. I had some ?"Sunbeam 260" stickers made for the side emblems that glue right over a 1725 badge and look great.On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:09 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:As a follow up. Rick doesn't have the Product of Ford Motor Company valve cover sticker.? Not sure if he is just out or no longer carrying them, as I wasn't the one who spoke with him. I assume its usage was on Tigers only and not used on any other vehicle.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/6/22  4:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.Jim DSent from my Galaxy_______________________________________________

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From sjhcobra1 at cs.com  Fri Jan  7 19:33:32 2022
From: sjhcobra1 at cs.com (STEPHEN HALBROOK)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 21:33:32 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] FW: Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
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I would call  National Parts Depot  and check the size.

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> On Jan 7, 2022, at 7:08 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> May have to if Rick doesn't restock.  More people will need them now that the cast aluminum valve cover are $600.
> 
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> 
> Sent from my Galaxy
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> -------- Original message --------
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> Date: 1/7/22 6:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
> 
> I must've got the last one in June when I bought my repop valve covers. If you could take that sample shown in the photo you posted to a silk screen type print shop I'll bet they could make you some. I had some  "Sunbeam 260" stickers made for the side emblems that glue right over a 1725 badge and look great.
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:09 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> As a follow up. Rick doesn't have the Product of Ford Motor Company valve cover sticker.  Not sure if he is just out or no longer carrying them, as I wasn't the one who spoke with him. I assume its usage was on Tigers only and not used on any other vehicle.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Date: 1/6/22 4:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
>> Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
>> 
>> One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.  Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.  The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.  Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?  I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.  The picture is from the set I get years ago.
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>> Jim D
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From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net  Sat Jan  8 16:57:14 2022
From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 23:57:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] ford sticker
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If and when a repo sticker is produced it would be good to know the exact positioning of it on the cover
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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  8 17:14:32 2022
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 00:14:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Product of Ford Motor Company Sticker
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 This dealer has the sticker, he might have a source, or sell them?
David Franchi

 https://sunbeamtigerparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/0901202144.jpg

https://sunbeamtigerparts.com/listing-category/parts/?year--3=&advanced_search=yes&s=&tx_listing=parts&s=valve+cover



    On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 01:19:40 PM PST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.
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From h2otor at aol.com  Sat Jan  8 20:06:27 2022
From: h2otor at aol.com (John Watertor)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 03:06:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers  ford sticker
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Ford sticker

It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape.?

When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the?door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.

Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.

John Watertor?


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 This dealer has the sticker, he might have a source, or sell them?
David Franchi

 https://sunbeamtigerparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/0901202144.jpg

https://sunbeamtigerparts.com/listing-category/parts/?year--3=&advanced_search=yes&s=&tx_listing=parts&s=valve+cover



? ? On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 01:19:40 PM PST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:? 
 
 One of the original Tiger valve covers has a Product of Ford Motor Company sticker.? Don't see this sticker listed for sale anywhere.? The Mustang has the same type of sticker listed for the door sill plates.? Would anyone know if this would be the same size as the one on our valve cover?? I believe Tiger Tom sold the sticker along with the engine spec plate as a set.? The picture is from the set I get years ago.
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Sun Jan  9 10:55:31 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 12:55:31 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers  ford sticker
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John is mostly correct with his statements.

 

Ford produced both stickers.

The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.

 

The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.

The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.

 

Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.

 

Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.

 

Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

 

 

Ford sticker

It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape. 

When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.

Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.

John Watertor 

 

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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Sun Jan  9 13:00:06 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2022 15:00:06 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers  ford sticker
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Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/9/22  12:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers  ford sticker John is mostly correct with his statements.?Ford produced both stickers.The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.?The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161?? C4JZ-6404-B? Engine Name Plate.The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.?Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.?? I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.?Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.?? I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.?? If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.?Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.?? They have disintegrated and faded with time.?Ron Fraser??From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via TigersSent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PMTo: tigers at autox.team.netSubject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker??Ford stickerIt was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape.?When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the?door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.John Watertor??-----Original Message-----From: tigers-request at autox.team.netTo: tigers at autox.team.netSent: Sat, Jan 8, 2022 6:14 pmSubject: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7*************************************
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sun Jan  9 14:18:16 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 16:18:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
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It's a shame these are not available.
Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem...
Gary


>     On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker.
> 
> 
> 
>     Sent from my Galaxy
> 
> 
>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>     Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>     To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com>
>     Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
> 
> 
>     John is mostly correct with his statements.
> 
> 
>     Ford produced both stickers.
> 
>     The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.
> 
> 
>     The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.
> 
>     The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.
> 
> 
>     Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.
> 
> 
>     Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.
> 
> 
>     Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
> 
>     From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via Tigers
>     Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
>     To: tigers at autox.team.net
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
> 
> 
>      
> 
>         > > 
> >         Ford sticker
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > 
> >         It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape. 
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > 
> >         When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > 
> >         Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > 
> >         John Watertor 
> > 
> >     > 
>      
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From icanhandyman at yahoo.com  Sun Jan  9 22:35:47 2022
From: icanhandyman at yahoo.com (J Clark)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 05:35:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?Thanks!


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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Sun Jan  9 23:29:37 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:29:37 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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Not much notice!
You should send photos.  An original drive
train is probably rare and numbers matching 
isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real
important is if it?s a converted Alpine and
if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in
line with a real Tiger that needs total
restoration.
Gary


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> On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> ?
> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.
> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?
> Thanks!
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 10 07:56:23 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:56:23 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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TBON lists no info on that Tiger, you would need to contact Norm Miller.

 

TBON indicates this Tiger may have a T12KA engine; T12KA engine # is on the Vin Tag and on the valve cover sticker.   These numbers need to match to be original.

 

The Tiger Engine Study indicates that an original T12KA engine should have a 4Gxx build date code stamped into the block.

All original engine parts will have date code before 4Gxx.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of J Clark via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 12:36 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400

 

I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.

Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?

Thanks!

 

 

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan 10 08:26:45 2022
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:26:45 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
In-Reply-To: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Check with Norm Miller:  rootes1 at earthlink.net  Give him the VIN and he can
tell you body, engine, trans and rear-end numbers.  Norm may require you to
give him all the numbers first for him to verify rather than the other way
around.
Congratulations on your new purchase

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:35 AM J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500
> bucks.
> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the
> engine, trans and rearend?
> Thanks!
>
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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 10 08:37:13 2022
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:37:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
In-Reply-To: <C81B3D68-8745-49D9-8AE8-FE47BB41E974@comcast.net>
References: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Is this it? David

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html



    On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Not much notice!You should send photos. ?An original drivetrain is probably rare and numbers matching?isn?t as important as most cars. ?What is realimportant is if it?s a converted Alpine andif it has rust and if it?s complete. ?$18k is inline with a real Tiger that needs totalrestoration.Gary

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On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:



?I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?Thanks!


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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 10 08:39:28 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:39:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
In-Reply-To: <000a01d80632$3cc34030$b649c090$@bluefrog.com>
References: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <000a01d80632$3cc34030$b649c090$@bluefrog.com>
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Looking at the photos in the ad, I would say its a real Tiger (I am not a TAC guy but have been
around Tigers since 1971).  Ad says the engine is numbers matching, it does have the original
T12KA sticker on the valve cover.  It actually looks pretty good but like you know, the lower
rockers and the rear wheel well area back by the spring shackel looks questionable.  Looks
restorable, $18K seems good but if you can't do the metal work yourself, it might cost $$$.
I have one in similar condition (except no rust and its more dissassembled) that I have been
trying to sell for $18K for a widow.  .
Tigers are great cars, and this is a local car!  Great bay area STOA club support.  I am just
east of Sacramento myself and am selling a pile of parts if you need any.
Gary Winblad


>     On 01/10/2022 9:56 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     TBON lists no info on that Tiger, you would need to contact Norm Miller.
> 
> 
>     TBON indicates this Tiger may have a T12KA engine; T12KA engine # is on the Vin Tag and on the valve cover sticker.   These numbers need to match to be original.
> 
> 
>     The Tiger Engine Study indicates that an original T12KA engine should have a 4Gxx build date code stamped into the block.
> 
>     All original engine parts will have date code before 4Gxx.
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
>     From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of J Clark via Tigers
>     Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 12:36 AM
>     To: tigers at autox.team.net
>     Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
> 
> 
>     I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.
> 
>     Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?
> 
>     Thanks!
> 
>      
> 
>      
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From icanhandyman at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 10 08:41:33 2022
From: icanhandyman at yahoo.com (J Clark)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:41:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Thanks Gary and Ron
References: <1795539534.979692.1641829293916.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1795539534.979692.1641829293916@mail.yahoo.com>

Ron, The car is listed on SFbay area (Vacaville) CL. I replied directly to Gary's response last night the following:Thanks for the quick reply, Gary. Yeah, I know I'm cutting it close here. I'm pretty sure it's real, judging by the small rivets on the cowl tags. 
The good: stock air cleaner, "TIGER" raised letter intake, T-handle short shifter, stock wood steering wheel, color code 39 (carnival red), 140 mph speedo
The not so good: lower quarters and rockers have been sectioned-in by the unscrupulous. What really concerns me is the rear inner fender wellsthat just did not feel right. I need to pull the wheels off tomorrow and get a good look. 
CL listing:? SF bay area for sale "sunbeam%20tiger" - craigslist

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From aballard at ix.netcom.com  Mon Jan 10 09:01:13 2022
From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:01:13 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
In-Reply-To: <1605712702.2071872.1641829033873@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302@mail.yahoo.com>
 <C81B3D68-8745-49D9-8AE8-FE47BB41E974@comcast.net>
 <1605712702.2071872.1641829033873@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78902673-D8DA-4F8E-8D85-97C16300138C@ix.netcom.com>

Interesting ad and pictures.

One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a ?T? fitting a few inches from the firewall.

A hose is connected to the ?T.?

Is this a factory fitting?

In the picture the hose connected to the ?T? isn?t connected and is capped.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Is this it? David
> 
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Not much notice!
> You should send photos.  An original drive
> train is probably rare and numbers matching 
> isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real
> important is if it?s a converted Alpine and
> if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in
> line with a real Tiger that needs total
> restoration.
> Gary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.
>> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 10 09:05:18 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:05:18 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
In-Reply-To: <78902673-D8DA-4F8E-8D85-97C16300138C@ix.netcom.com>
References: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes, that appears to be the factory ?T? fitting.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 11:01 AM
To: D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: J Clark <icanhandyman at yahoo.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400

 

Interesting ad and pictures.

 

One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a ?T? fitting a few inches from the firewall.

 

A hose is connected to the ?T.?

 

Is this a factory fitting?

 

In the picture the hose connected to the ?T? isn?t connected and is capped.

 



Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Is this it? David

 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html

 

 

 

On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Not much notice!

You should send photos.  An original drive

train is probably rare and numbers matching 

isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real

important is if it?s a converted Alpine and

if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in

line with a real Tiger that needs total

restoration.

Gary

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.

Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?

Thanks!

 

 

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 10 09:17:20 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:17:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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References: <1600862956.848553.1641792947302@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes it is.  I put hot water under the original 2bbl carb.
Gary



>     On 01/10/2022 11:01 AM Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Interesting ad and pictures.
> 
>     One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a ?T? fitting a few inches from the firewall.
> 
>     A hose is connected to the ?T.?
> 
>     Is this a factory fitting?
> 
>     In the picture the hose connected to the ?T? isn?t connected and is capped.
> 
>     [image1.jpeg]
> 
>     Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
> 
>         > > 
> >         Is this it? David
> > 
> >         https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >         Not much notice!
> >         You should send photos.  An original drive
> >         train is probably rare and numbers matching 
> >         isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real
> >         important is if it?s a converted Alpine and
> >         if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in
> >         line with a real Tiger that needs total
> >         restoration.
> >         Gary
> > 
> > 
> >         Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > 
> >             > > > On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> >             > > >             I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.
> > >             Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?
> > >             Thanks!
> > > 
> > > 
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From aballard at ix.netcom.com  Mon Jan 10 10:07:53 2022
From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:07:53 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
In-Reply-To: <002a01d8063b$dd9ef950$98dcebf0$@bluefrog.com>
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Thanks :) 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, that appears to be the factory ?T? fitting.
>  
> Ron Fraser
>  
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 11:01 AM
> To: D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: J Clark <icanhandyman at yahoo.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
>  
> Interesting ad and pictures.
>  
> One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a ?T? fitting a few inches from the firewall.
>  
> A hose is connected to the ?T.?
>  
> Is this a factory fitting?
>  
> In the picture the hose connected to the ?T? isn?t connected and is capped.
>  
> <image001.jpg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Is this it? David
>  
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html
>  
> 
>  
>  
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> Not much notice!
> You should send photos.  An original drive
> train is probably rare and numbers matching 
> isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real
> important is if it?s a converted Alpine and
> if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in
> line with a real Tiger that needs total
> restoration.
> Gary
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.
> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Mon Jan 10 12:05:16 2022
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:05:16 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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I believe #400 was the cut off point for the vinyl dash. But I don't 
know if that means #399 was vinyl and #400 was wood, or #400 was vinyl 
and #401 was wood. Regardless that could have been changed. More a 
notation on #400 than a sign of originality. There should be an indent 
for the generator in the inner fender panel (the picture doesn't show 
well enough to tell). I didn't notice the hold down anchors for the 
battery in the trunk (maybe just bent or broken?). Also check to see 
that there was never an indication a battery box was welded in under the 
hatch behind the passenger seat. Other things like welding methods are 
the domain of TAC inspectors to comment on. Also noticed no fan shroud 
(you might ask if they have that). Otherwise the strut hats, the spare 
mount, the coolant container, the exhaust X member modifications appear 
germane to a Tiger. I hope it all works out to your liking.

On 1/9/2022 9:35 PM, J Clark via Tigers wrote:
> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 
> 500 bucks.
> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the 
> engine, trans and rearend?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan 10 12:05:58 2022
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:05:58 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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The blocked-off Tee is probably part of the adaptation that went on when
the engine got a 4BBL hi rise and lost its carb spacer.  The engine is
painted red: note the block in this picture and the oil pan in another.
The engine has likely been removed from the car at some time.  There's at
least a 50% chance that the engine was swapped for another (non numbers
matching) at this time.  Valve covers are likely original but an original
number on a valve cover does not a numbers-matching engine make.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:07 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Thanks :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, that appears to be the factory ?T? fitting.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Allan
> Ballard via Tigers
> *Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2022 11:01 AM
> *To:* D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* J Clark <icanhandyman at yahoo.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
>
>
>
> Interesting ad and pictures.
>
>
>
> One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a ?T?
> fitting a few inches from the firewall.
>
>
>
> A hose is connected to the ?T.?
>
>
>
> Is this a factory fitting?
>
>
>
> In the picture the hose connected to the ?T? isn?t connected and is capped.
>
>
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Is this it? David
>
>
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Not much notice!
>
> You should send photos.  An original drive
>
> train is probably rare and numbers matching
>
> isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real
>
> important is if it?s a converted Alpine and
>
> if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in
>
> line with a real Tiger that needs total
>
> restoration.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500
> bucks.
>
> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the
> engine, trans and rearend?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan 10 12:10:49 2022
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:10:49 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
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More pictures.  These are my valve covers.  Stickers are as-attached by the
factory.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:

> It's a shame these are not available.
> Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem...
> Gary
>
> On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn
> out sticker.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com>
> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
> John is mostly correct with his statements.
>
>
> Ford produced both stickers.
>
> The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller
> Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.
>
>
> The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts
> List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.
>
> The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.
>
>
> Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the
> US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller
> sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.
>
>
> Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side
> valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left
> valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.
>
>
> Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and
> age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Watertor via Tigers
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
>
>
>
> Ford sticker
>
> It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a
> original sticker that is in rough shape.
>
> When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but
> it was larger in width and length.
>
> Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any
> for sale.
>
> John Watertor
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, Jan 8, 2022 6:14 pm
> Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7
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From chip.broadbooks at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 12:16:09 2022
From: chip.broadbooks at gmail.com (Chip Broadbooks)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:16:09 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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Yes, Norm will ask you for some numbers to verify. He asked for the number
on the rear end of my Tiger!!!

Congratulations on your purchase of a kitty. If you need any restoration
advice, this is the place to ask.

Not knowing if you are Tiger Knowledgeable or not, I will share my
restoration experience:
Jerry Porsche, Eric Gibeaut, Randy Willett, Curt Meinel, Rick Mccloud, Rob
Guerra and Norm Miller assisted me with parts, information, and suggestions
in the restoration of mine. Rick is with Sunbeam Specialties and Curt is
with Classic Sunbeam.


I have no idea of how many thousands of dollars Jerry saved me. I was
paying someone to restore mine. When I told Jerry the amount of money I had
paid so far, he was adamant that I get it out of there. My Tiger had zero
floorboard rust. It had some in the rocker panels.

If I recall correctly, I picked up replacement panels from Rob Guerra. My
brake booster was rebuilt by Randy Willett. I bought stainless steel brake
lines from Classic Tubing and they fit perfectly. Trust me, you definitely
want your brakes to operate flawlessly.

My Dad gave me the Tiger the weekend before he passed. I knew the
restoration process was going to be a bit pricey. Jerry asked me if I was
going to drive it a lot and my response was a emphatic yes. Well, I ended
up spending $17,000 on a paint job and now I am afraid to drive it. So kind
of keep that in mind during your restoration process. I didn't want a
Trailer Queen, but now I have one.

You can reach out to me and I will share any information, knowledge or
tidbits I know.

Good Luck!!!
Chip




On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 10:28 AM Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Check with Norm Miller:  rootes1 at earthlink.net  Give him the VIN and he
> can tell you body, engine, trans and rear-end numbers.  Norm may require
> you to give him all the numbers first for him to verify rather than the
> other way around.
> Congratulations on your new purchase
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:35 AM J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500
>> bucks.
>> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the
>> engine, trans and rearend?
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 10 13:44:52 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (Gary)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:44:52 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
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The factory tee is also a size reducer, that?s 
why it?s still there.
The way to tell what engine it is is to pull
the starter and look at the casting number.
A 260 or a 302 5.0 can be dressed the same.
The only matching number is a build date
stamped into a small boss on the block in
front of the driver side head.
Engine swaps in Tigers are almost universal.
Gary 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The blocked-off Tee is probably part of the adaptation that went on when the engine got a 4BBL hi rise and lost its carb spacer.  The engine is painted red: note the block in this picture and the oil pan in another.  The engine has likely been removed from the car at some time.  There's at least a 50% chance that the engine was swapped for another (non numbers matching) at this time.  Valve covers are likely original but an original number on a valve cover does not a numbers-matching engine make.
> 
> Will - 382001570 
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:07 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Thanks :) 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, that appears to be the factory ?T? fitting.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ron Fraser
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via Tigers
>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 11:01 AM
>>> To: D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Cc: J Clark <icanhandyman at yahoo.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] I just put down a deposit on B9471400
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Interesting ad and pictures.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> One shows the heater hose on the passenger side. The hose has a ?T? fitting a few inches from the firewall.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> A hose is connected to the ?T.?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Is this a factory fitting?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In the picture the hose connected to the ?T? isn?t connected and is capped.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image001.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this it? David
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/vacaville-1965-sunbeam-tiger/7430188284.html
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022, 10:30:29 PM PST, Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Not much notice!
>>> 
>>> You should send photos.  An original drive
>>> 
>>> train is probably rare and numbers matching 
>>> 
>>> isn?t as important as most cars.  What is real
>>> 
>>> important is if it?s a converted Alpine and
>>> 
>>> if it has rust and if it?s complete.  $18k is in
>>> 
>>> line with a real Tiger that needs total
>>> 
>>> restoration.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2022, at 9:36 PM, J Clark via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> I'm going back again tomorrow to either trailer it home... or forfeit 500 bucks.
>>> 
>>> Price is 18 grand. Can any one tell me what numbers to look for on the engine, trans and rearend?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>> 
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From aballard at ix.netcom.com  Tue Jan 11 12:08:18 2022
From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:08:18 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
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 I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.

Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.

A picture of one is attached.

I assume these decals  fall under the category of ?interesting? but not factory issue?

TIA,

-Allan Ballard
Atlanta, Georgia 





Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> More pictures.  These are my valve covers.  Stickers are as-attached by the factory.
> 
> Will - 382001570 
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:
>> It's a shame these are not available. 
>> Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem... 
>> Gary 
>> 
>>> On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>>> Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com>
>>> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>>> 
>>> John is mostly correct with his statements.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ford produced both stickers.
>>> 
>>> The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.
>>> 
>>> The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron Fraser
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via Tigers
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
>>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ford sticker
>>> 
>>> It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape. 
>>> 
>>> When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.
>>> 
>>> Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.
>>> 
>>> John Watertor 
>>> 
>>>  
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 11 12:21:54 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:21:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
In-Reply-To: <62C66C4C-FF8F-48C0-9922-507BB7989F08@ix.netcom.com>
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That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts.? I was going.to use the LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now".? He didn't say if they would be available again in the future.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/11/22  2:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker ?I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.A picture of one is attached.I assume these decals ?fall under the category of ?interesting? but not factory issue?TIA,-Allan BallardAtlanta, Georgia?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:More pictures.? These are my valve covers.? Stickers are as-attached by the factory.Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.comOn Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   It's a shame these are not available.
   
  
  
   Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem...
   
  
  
   Gary
   
  
  
   
  
  
   
    On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
   
   
    
   
   
    
   
   
    Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker.
   
   
    
   
   
    
   
   
    
   
   
    
     Sent from my Galaxy
    
   
   
    
   
   
    
   
   
    
     -------- Original message --------
    
    
     From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
    
    
     Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
    
    
     To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com>
    
    
     Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
    
    
     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
    
    
     
    
   
   
    John is mostly correct with his statements.
    
    Ford produced both stickers.
    The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.
    
    The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161?? C4JZ-6404-B? Engine Name Plate.
    The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.
    
    Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.?? I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.
    
    Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.?? I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.?? If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.
    
    Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.?? They have disintegrated and faded with time.
    
    Ron Fraser
    
    
    From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via TigersSent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PMTo: tigers at autox.team.netSubject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
    
    
     ?
     
      
       Ford sticker
      
      
       It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape.?
      
      
       When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the?door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.
      
      
       Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.
      
      
       John Watertor?
      
     
     ?
     
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From randya at pacbell.net  Tue Jan 11 14:21:16 2022
From: randya at pacbell.net (Randall Antosiak)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:21:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Triumph Tiger for sale on BaT
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Triumph TR4 with a Ford 5.0.? I found it amusing that the owner attached a Tiger script on the trunk lid.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-triumph-tr4-25/

 

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From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 11 14:32:07 2022
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 21:32:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Triumph Tiger for sale on BaT
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 My wife has come home a few times saying she saw a Tiger and when I go look for it it's a TR4.?? From the rear they do look similar.
A little creative expression on this one.? They did and maybe still do make a Triumph motorcycle so they could have at least used the script from one of those.

    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 01:21:53 PM PST, Randall Antosiak via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Triumph TR4 with a Ford 5.0.? I found it amusing that the owner attached a Tiger script on the trunk lid.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-triumph-tr4-25/

 

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From chip.broadbooks at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 14:40:34 2022
From: chip.broadbooks at gmail.com (Chip Broadbooks)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Triumph Tiger for sale on BaT
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I am trying to find the black carpet lined doors. Maybe they stuffed them
in the boot???

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 4:22 PM Randall Antosiak via Tigers <
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> Triumph TR4 with a Ford 5.0.  I found it amusing that the owner attached a
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jan 11 14:44:40 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:44:40 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
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Jim

                I need to be educated about these types of seatbelts.   I?m not familiar with the different makes.

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:22 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>; jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

 

That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts.  I was going.to use the LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.

 

On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now".  He didn't say if they would be available again in the future.

 

Jim D

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

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From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 1/11/22 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> > 

Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com <mailto:h2otor at aol.com> >, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

 

 I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.

 

Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.

 

A picture of one is attached.

 

I assume these decals  fall under the category of ?interesting? but not factory issue?

 

TIA,

 

-Allan Ballard

Atlanta, Georgia 

 



 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

More pictures.  These are my valve covers.  Stickers are as-attached by the factory.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

 

 

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> > wrote:

It's a shame these are not available. 

Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem... 

Gary 

 

On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker. 

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy 

 

 

-------- Original message -------- 

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > 

Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com <mailto:h2otor at aol.com> > 

Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net>  

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

 

John is mostly correct with his statements.

 

Ford produced both stickers.

The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.

 

The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.

The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.

 

Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.

 

Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.

 

Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Watertor via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

 

 

Ford sticker

It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape. 

When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.

Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.

John Watertor 

 

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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 15:09:43 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:09:43 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Triumph Tiger for sale on BaT
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Would be even better with the IRS.

Il giorno mar 11 gen 2022 alle 22:22 Randall Antosiak via Tigers <
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 11 16:15:03 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:15:03 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Seatbelts (was Tigers ford sticker)
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Ron,I only know a little about seatbelts for Sunbeams.? My Tiger had Beam belts when I purchased it in 1977.? Not sure if they were dealer installed.? They are American made, so may have been installed by Rootes in New York.? Beam seatbelts are a classic flip design as used in airplanes and are still available today in multiple colors.? SeatBeltsPlus carry them.? I got new ones from JC Whitney years ago.??Kangol seatbelts are the magnetic buckle type.? They were listed by Rootes in the Avenger/Cricket parts book.??Britex belts were used in many British cars. They were of the push button type and listed for the 69 Alpine.Irvin belts were made by the Irvin Parachute Company.? ?Not sure what Rootes vehicle these were listed for.? ?They are sought after and quite expensive.? ?Attached are pictures.? Maybe some of our British or Australian friends can shed more light on this.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/11/22  4:45 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Allan Ballard' <aballard at ix.netcom.com>, 'Will Seay' <Tigers at embarqmail.com> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker Jim??????????????? I need to be educated about these types of seatbelts.?? I?m not familiar with the different makes.Ron Fraser?From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via TigersSent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:22 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>; jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker?That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts.? I was going.to use the LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.?On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now".? He didn't say if they would be available again in the future.?Jim D?Sent from my Galaxy??-------- Original message --------From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/11/22 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker ??I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.?Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.?A picture of one is attached.?I assume these decals ?fall under the category of ?interesting? but not factory issue??TIA,?-Allan BallardAtlanta, Georgia????Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:More pictures.? These are my valve covers.? Stickers are as-attached by the factory.?Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com??On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:It's a shame these are not available. Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem... Gary ?On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: ??Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker. ???Sent from my Galaxy ??-------- Original message -------- From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker ?John is mostly correct with his statements.?Ford produced both stickers.The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.?The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161?? C4JZ-6404-B? Engine Name Plate.The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.?Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.?? I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.?Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.?? I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.?? If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.?Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.?? They have disintegrated and faded with time.?Ron Fraser??From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via TigersSent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PMTo: tigers at autox.team.netSubject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker??Ford stickerIt was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape.?When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the?door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.John Watertor??-----Original Message-----From: tigers-request at autox.team.netTo: tigers at autox.team.netSent: Sat, Jan 8, 2022 6:14 pmSubject: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7*************************************_______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad at comcast.net _______________________________________________tigers at autox.teamnetDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com<ValveCoverL.JPG><ValveCoverR.jpg>_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard at ix.netcom.com
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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 11 18:03:38 2022
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 01:03:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Seatbelts (was Tigers ford sticker)
In-Reply-To: <287480010.641155.1641942909237@verizon.net>
References: <001a01d80734$70e80fa0$52b82ee0$@bluefrog.com>
 <287480010.641155.1641942909237@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <563996421.2462918.1641949419531@mail.yahoo.com>

 Not Kangol, but close to a standard Sunbeam seat belt.
https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/i-30498120-2-point-lap-seat-belt-lift-latch-buckle-snap-hook-anchors.html
David

    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 03:19:09 PM PST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Ron,
I only know a little about seatbelts for Sunbeams.? My Tiger had Beam belts when I purchased it in 1977.? Not sure if they were dealer installed.? They are American made, so may have been installed by Rootes in New York.? Beam seatbelts are a classic flip design as used in airplanes and are still available today in multiple colors.? SeatBeltsPlus carry them.? I got new ones from JC Whitney years ago.??
Kangol seatbelts are the magnetic buckle type.? They were listed by Rootes in the Avenger/Cricket parts book.??
Britex belts were used in many British cars. They were of the push button type and listed for the 69 Alpine.
Irvin belts were made by the Irvin Parachute Company.? ?Not sure what Rootes vehicle these were listed for.? ?They are sought after and quite expensive.? ?
Attached are pictures.? Maybe some of our British or Australian friends can shed more light on this.
Jim D
Sent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/11/22 4:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Allan Ballard' <aballard at ix.netcom.com>, 'Will Seay' <Tigers at embarqmail.com> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

Jim

??????????????? I need to be educated about these types of seatbelts.?? I?m not familiar with the different makes.

Ron Fraser

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:22 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>; jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

?

That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts.? I was going.to use the LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.

?

On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now".? He didn't say if they would be available again in the future.

?

Jim D

?

Sent from my Galaxy

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 

Date: 1/11/22 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

?

?I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.

?

Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.

?

A picture of one is attached.

?

I assume these decals ?fall under the category of ?interesting? but not factory issue?

?

TIA,

?

-Allan Ballard

Atlanta, Georgia?

?



?

?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


More pictures.? These are my valve covers.? Stickers are as-attached by the factory.

?

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com

?

?

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> wrote:


It's a shame these are not available. 

Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem... 

Gary 

?


On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: 

?

?

Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker. 

?

?

?

Sent from my Galaxy 

?

?

-------- Original message -------- 

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> 

Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com> 

Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

?

John is mostly correct with his statements.

?

Ford produced both stickers.

The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.

?

The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161?? C4JZ-6404-B? Engine Name Plate.

The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.

?

Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.?? I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.

?

Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.?? I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.?? If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.

?

Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.?? They have disintegrated and faded with time.

?

Ron Fraser

?

?

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Watertor via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

?

?


Ford sticker



It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape.?



When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the?door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.



Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.



John Watertor?


?

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jan 11 18:14:54 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:14:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Seatbelts (was Tigers ford sticker)
In-Reply-To: <287480010.641155.1641942909237@verizon.net>
References: <001a01d80734$70e80fa0$52b82ee0$@bluefrog.com>
 <287480010.641155.1641942909237@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <003301d80751$cf57c1d0$6e074570$@bluefrog.com>

Thank you Jim

Always good to understand different Sunbeam items.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 6:15 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; 'Will Seay' <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Rootes Seatbelts (was Tigers ford sticker)

 

Ron,

 

I only know a little about seatbelts for Sunbeams.  My Tiger had Beam belts when I purchased it in 1977.  Not sure if they were dealer installed.  They are American made, so may have been installed by Rootes in New York.  Beam seatbelts are a classic flip design as used in airplanes and are still available today in multiple colors.  SeatBeltsPlus carry them.  I got new ones from JC Whitney years ago.  

 

Kangol seatbelts are the magnetic buckle type.  They were listed by Rootes in the Avenger/Cricket parts book.  

 

Britex belts were used in many British cars. They were of the push button type and listed for the 69 Alpine.

 

Irvin belts were made by the Irvin Parachute Company.   Not sure what Rootes vehicle these were listed for.   They are sought after and quite expensive.   

 

Attached are pictures.  Maybe some of our British or Australian friends can shed more light on this.

 

Jim D

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > 

Date: 1/11/22 4:45 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> >, 'Allan Ballard' <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >, 'Will Seay' <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> > 

Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net>  

Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

 

Jim

                I need to be educated about these types of seatbelts.   I?m not familiar with the different makes.

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:22 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >; Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> >
Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com <mailto:h2otor at aol.com> >; jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

 

That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts.  I was going.to use the LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.

 

On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now".  He didn't say if they would be available again in the future.

 

Jim D

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 1/11/22 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> > 

Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com <mailto:h2otor at aol.com> >, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

 

 I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.

 

Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal for each seatbelt.

 

A picture of one is attached.

 

I assume these decals  fall under the category of ?interesting? but not factory issue?

 

TIA,

 

-Allan Ballard

Atlanta, Georgia 

 



 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

More pictures.  These are my valve covers.  Stickers are as-attached by the factory.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

 

 

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> > wrote:

It's a shame these are not available. 

Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem... 

Gary 

 

On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn out sticker. 

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy 

 

 

-------- Original message -------- 

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > 

Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com <mailto:h2otor at aol.com> > 

Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net>  

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker 

 

John is mostly correct with his statements.

 

Ford produced both stickers.

The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.

 

The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.

The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.

 

Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.

 

Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.

 

Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Watertor via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker

 

 

Ford sticker

It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a original sticker that is in rough shape. 

When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but it was larger in width and length.

Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any for sale.

John Watertor 

 

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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Tue Jan 11 18:38:52 2022
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 09:38:52 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Rootes Seatbelts (was Tigers ford sticker)
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For the Alpines and Tigers rootes offered 2 types of the irin parachute
company belts, both 2 point and 3.
They were mostly a light grey colour, and had a irvin badge attached to the
buckle. post '63 they also had black belts and i assume as a cost saving
measure there was a sticker with Rootes Group and the irvin badge on
the buckle.

 For the sunbeam spec the short one next to the console had a plastic
sleeve to keep it more upright i assume and easier to grab,

The Rootes specific ones actually also had a rootes label stitched to the
base of the belts near the anchor points as opposed to the generic
Irvin belts label.

attached some pics below.

USA dealers obviously would install local brands to make some extra coin...
and as mentioned when chrysler came along and on late sales Britax and
Kangol belts would sometimes make their way onto the cars.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 09:20, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thank you Jim
>
> Always good to understand different Sunbeam items.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2022 6:15 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; 'Will Seay' <
> Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* RE: [Tigers] Rootes Seatbelts (was Tigers ford sticker)
>
>
>
> Ron,
>
>
>
> I only know a little about seatbelts for Sunbeams.  My Tiger had Beam
> belts when I purchased it in 1977.  Not sure if they were dealer
> installed.  They are American made, so may have been installed by Rootes in
> New York.  Beam seatbelts are a classic flip design as used in airplanes
> and are still available today in multiple colors.  SeatBeltsPlus carry
> them.  I got new ones from JC Whitney years ago.
>
>
>
> Kangol seatbelts are the magnetic buckle type.  They were listed by Rootes
> in the Avenger/Cricket parts book.
>
>
>
> Britex belts were used in many British cars. They were of the push button
> type and listed for the 69 Alpine.
>
>
>
> Irvin belts were made by the Irvin Parachute Company.   Not sure what
> Rootes vehicle these were listed for.   They are sought after and quite
> expensive.
>
>
>
> Attached are pictures.  Maybe some of our British or Australian friends
> can shed more light on this.
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>
> Date: 1/11/22 4:45 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Allan Ballard' <
> aballard at ix.netcom.com>, 'Will Seay' <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>
> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
>
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>                 I need to be educated about these types of seatbelts.
> I?m not familiar with the different makes.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *jimdamelio
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:22 PM
> *To:* Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Will Seay <
> Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Cc:* John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>; jimdamelio via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
>
>
> That would be a nice touch to the Beam seatbelts.  I was going.to use the
> LAT 70 spinner decal on mine until I found the Kangol belts.
>
>
>
> On a side note. I heard back from Rick about the Product of Ford Motor
> Company decal and his response was: "We can't get these now".  He didn't
> say if they would be available again in the future.
>
>
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Date: 1/11/22 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>
> Cc: John Watertor <h2otor at aol.com>, jimdamelio via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
>
>
>  I have a small detail to add to a more general conversation on decals.
>
>
>
> Some years back, I was given a pair of Sunbeam seatbelt decals - one decal
> for each seatbelt.
>
>
>
> A picture of one is attached.
>
>
>
> I assume these decals  fall under the category of ?interesting? but not
> factory issue?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> -Allan Ballard
>
> Atlanta, Georgia
>
>
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> More pictures.  These are my valve covers.  Stickers are as-attached by
> the factory.
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> It's a shame these are not available.
>
> Back in 1992 I got both stickers from Rick at SS, no problem...
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> On 01/09/2022 3:00 PM jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Attached is a picture of my oil fill left side valve cover with the warn
> out sticker.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>
> Date: 1/9/22 12:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: 'John Watertor' <h2otor at aol.com>
>
> Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
>
>
> John is mostly correct with his statements.
>
>
>
> Ford produced both stickers.
>
> The Sunbeam or Rootes LTD sticker on one valve cover and the smaller
> Product of Ford Motor Company was place on the other valve cover.
>
>
>
> The Sunbeam and Rootes LTD sticker could be the one listed in the Parts
> List ? 6100161   C4JZ-6404-B  Engine Name Plate.
>
> The smaller sticker is not listed as a separate part number.
>
>
>
> Sometimes the Sunbeam sticker was placed on the other valve cover, for the
> US market that is the passenger side.   I can only guess the smaller
> sticker was placed somewhere on the left valve cover.
>
>
>
> Attached is a picture I found that shows its position on the right side
> valve cover.   I do not have a picture of the smaller sticker on the left
> valve cover.   If someone has a picture, please send it to the List.
>
>
>
> Generally, these original stickers do not fair well with heat cycles and
> age.   They have disintegrated and faded with time.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Watertor via Tigers
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 08, 2022 10:06 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tigers ford sticker
>
>
>
>
>
> Ford sticker
>
> It was on the upper front passenger side of the valve cover. I have a
> original sticker that is in rough shape.
>
> When I restored my Tiger I purchased a label for the door sill plates but
> it was larger in width and length.
>
> Years ago someone was going to reproduce this sticker but I never saw any
> for sale.
>
> John Watertor
>
>
>
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 07:15:15 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:15:15 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
Message-ID: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,  happy new year.
Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

Thanks!
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Mon Jan 17 07:33:59 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:33:59 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1425535506.322821.1642430042732@verizon.net>

The best I've found is Hammerite silver gray. Rust-Oleum Hammered silver is to silver for my tasteJim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/17/22  9:15 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Hi all, ?happy new year.Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?Thanks!
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 08:25:16 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 16:25:16 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <1425535506.322821.1642430042732@verizon.net>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANE47iQNaegj2uNaDL3+hyE0MNGtHN2gAUoUU75bRQiyerbAhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks.  Ideally looking for a code I can give to my paint guy though.  But
that?s a good help in case I can?t get one.

Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle 15:34 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha
scritto:

> The best I've found is Hammerite silver gray. Rust-Oleum Hammered silver
> is to silver for my taste
>
> Jim D
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/17/22 9:15 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
> Hi all,  happy new year.
> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>
> Thanks!
>
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From rsdslp at juno.com  Mon Jan 17 08:25:57 2022
From: rsdslp at juno.com (Bob Dobrowski)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 07:25:57 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Jan 17 08:37:20 2022
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 07:37:20 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Hood (bonnet?)  Air scoop.....
Message-ID: <001201d80bb8$1eef8010$5cce8030$@mayfco.com>

Is there an acceptable hood scoop, replicating the OEM hood's scoop, and if
so, where?  I have my original hood, off car, and an Alpine one on my car.
Would perhaps like to get an active scoop on the car with a different paint
color. 

 

 

Oh, while I am at it, I have a posi and 4.55:1 rear gear set for it that I
would like to trade for a posi for 2.88 gear set.  Anybody wanna trade? 

 

Just email me iffn so and we will see what can be done. 

 

Drmayf

 

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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 17 08:51:10 2022
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:51:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Hood (bonnet?)  Air scoop.....
In-Reply-To: <001201d80bb8$1eef8010$5cce8030$@mayfco.com>
References: <001201d80bb8$1eef8010$5cce8030$@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <76306052.574733.1642434670076@mail.yahoo.com>

 There was a LAT rivet on scoop, might have been a Cobra scoop.
This might work
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265451176136?hash=item3dce1f80c8:g:dAwAAOSwT5tWOI7m&vxp=mtr
David
    On Monday, January 17, 2022, 07:38:58 AM PST, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:  
 
 
Is there an acceptable hood scoop, replicating the OEM hood?s scoop, and if so, where?? I have my original hood, off car, and an Alpine one on my car. Would perhaps like to get an active scoop on the car with a different paint color. 

 ?

 ?

Oh, while I am at it, I have a posi and 4.55:1 rear gear set for it that I would like to trade for a posi for 2.88 gear set. ?Anybody wanna trade? 

 ?

Just email me iffn so and we will see what can be done? 

 ?

Drmayf

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From spmdr at juno.com  Mon Jan 17 09:05:18 2022
From: spmdr at juno.com (DW)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 08:05:18 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Hood scoops
Message-ID: <5bdcfd96-0f7d-d947-6ba4-10fe91ccc201@juno.com>

Steve Alcala has a hood scoop for sale. similar to the early T-Bird, but 
scaled for a Tiger.? It's the one on Sakai's Yellow race Tiger.? DW


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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 17 09:13:43 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:13:43 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <726a241b-28f5-448d-aa8b-7d031a90c8f2@email.android.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
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Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Mon Jan 17 09:21:42 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:21:42 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <726a241b-28f5-448d-aa8b-7d031a90c8f2@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <180761078.281604.1642436505713@verizon.net>

The BON lists the air cleaner as Hammertone gray or chrome plated.? As for a paint code, I have no clue where you would get one. Maybe a restorer can answer that.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Bob Dobrowski via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/17/22  10:27 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluerOn Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:Hi all, ?happy new year.Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?Thanks!
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 17 09:47:47 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:47:47 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002e01d80bc1$f5b31ea0$e1195be0$@bluefrog.com>

Owain

                I?m not sure there is a Rootes Paint Code for this color.

The air cleaner plates were made by or for AC of England, AC probably painted them.

 

I have always been told a Hammer tone silver or gray.

I sprayed my air cleaner with Hammerite silver gray, ? pint can.

I think I got it from Eastwood ? not sure Eastwood carries it anymore.

 

Anyone have pictures of an original air cleaner paint?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:15 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 17 10:03:16 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:03:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <002e01d80bc1$f5b31ea0$e1195be0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
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I am pretty sure they were originally hammertone.  When I got B9470622 in 1971 it did have
the remnants of hammertone.  I repainted it several times but it only lasted a few years so I
gave up and just did it in silver which has lasted now 30years.
Gary


>     On 01/17/2022 11:47 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Owain
> 
>                     I?m not sure there is a Rootes Paint Code for this color.
> 
>     The air cleaner plates were made by or for AC of England, AC probably painted them.
> 
> 
>     I have always been told a Hammer tone silver or gray.
> 
>     I sprayed my air cleaner with Hammerite silver gray, ? pint can.
> 
>     I think I got it from Eastwood ? not sure Eastwood carries it anymore.
> 
> 
>     Anyone have pictures of an original air cleaner paint?
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
>     From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd via Tigers
>     Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:15 AM
>     To: tigers at autox.team.net
>     Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> 
> 
>     Hi all,  happy new year.
> 
>     Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
> 
> 
>     Thanks!
> 
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From rollright at aol.com  Mon Jan 17 10:05:03 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:05:03 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
References: <ECE7CD74-BB48-441B-8F08-C0E554AFD6F5.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ECE7CD74-BB48-441B-8F08-C0E554AFD6F5@aol.com>

Hello all and happy new year

I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.
Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?

Thanks in advance, Jim Armstrong

Sent from my iPhone

From bucktrippel at verizon.net  Mon Jan 17 10:18:31 2022
From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:18:31 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <002e01d80bc1$f5b31ea0$e1195be0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <002e01d80bc1$f5b31ea0$e1195be0$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <604901d80bc6$409ef8e0$c1dceaa0$@verizon.net>

The drawing for the Lucas air cleaner that was used on our Tigers specified

?sprayed Grey Hammer 2510008 (M-1406)

 

bt

 



 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:48 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Owain

                I?m not sure there is a Rootes Paint Code for this color.

The air cleaner plates were made by or for AC of England, AC probably painted them.

 

I have always been told a Hammer tone silver or gray.

I sprayed my air cleaner with Hammerite silver gray, ? pint can.

I think I got it from Eastwood ? not sure Eastwood carries it anymore.

 

Anyone have pictures of an original air cleaner paint?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:15 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

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From bucktrippel at verizon.net  Mon Jan 17 10:20:45 2022
From: bucktrippel at verizon.net (Buck Trippel)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:20:45 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] FW:  Air cleaner color
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <002e01d80bc1$f5b31ea0$e1195be0$@bluefrog.com> 
Message-ID: <612901d80bc6$903bfbf0$b0b3f3d0$@verizon.net>

OOPs! AC was the mfr. not Lucas.

bt

 

From: Buck Trippel <bucktrippel at verizon.net> 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:19 AM
To: 'Ron Fraser' <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; 'owain.lloyd at gmail.com' <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: 'tigers at Autox.Team.Net' <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

The drawing for the Lucas air cleaner that was used on our Tigers specified

?sprayed Grey Hammer 2510008 (M-1406)

 

bt

 



 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Ron Fraser via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:48 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Owain

                I?m not sure there is a Rootes Paint Code for this color.

The air cleaner plates were made by or for AC of England, AC probably painted them.

 

I have always been told a Hammer tone silver or gray.

I sprayed my air cleaner with Hammerite silver gray, ? pint can.

I think I got it from Eastwood ? not sure Eastwood carries it anymore.

 

Anyone have pictures of an original air cleaner paint?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:15 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 17 10:24:49 2022
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:24:49 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <001f01d80bbd$33378270$99a68750$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <726a241b-28f5-448d-aa8b-7d031a90c8f2@email.android.com>
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Tiger Friends:

 Here are three photos of the Air Cleaner from my (former) GT Tiger.

I hope you can gain some information from these photos. My impression from having ?eyes-on? is that there is no Hammertone and the color is a silver tint. The color reminds me of Ford?s ?Argent? paint which has a bit of brightness- a bit more than a satin tone.

I?m sure you will note the black paint; I guess a prior owner applied that at some time in the history of this GT Tiger.

I took a close look at the black paint with a magnifying glass, and then scraped my fingernail on the paint to see which is the base layer; it is clear that the black was sprayed over the silver (?Argent?)

The original Ford P/N was a C7AZ- type; now Ford sells it under PM-19K207-AA

 

I hope all this is helpful.

Don Antilla

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 11:14 AM
To: 'Bob Dobrowski' <rsdslp at juno.com>, <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 17 10:30:54 2022
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:30:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <604901d80bc6$409ef8e0$c1dceaa0$@verizon.net>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
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Buck: Interesting note.

I? will go back and see if I can detect signs of hammertone. Perhaps I didn?t look carefully enough.

Don Antilla

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Buck Trippel via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Buck Trippel <bucktrippel at verizon.net>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 12:19 PM
To: 'Ron Fraser' <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

The drawing for the Lucas air cleaner that was used on our Tigers specified

?sprayed Grey Hammer 2510008 (M-1406)

 

bt

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:48 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Owain

                I?m not sure there is a Rootes Paint Code for this color.

The air cleaner plates were made by or for AC of England, AC probably painted them.

 

I have always been told a Hammer tone silver or gray.

I sprayed my air cleaner with Hammerite silver gray, ? pint can.

I think I got it from Eastwood ? not sure Eastwood carries it anymore.

 

Anyone have pictures of an original air cleaner paint?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:15 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

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From blance598 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 11:27:49 2022
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:27:49 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Tigers air cleaner housing
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References: <mailman.3338.1642434678.2811.tigers@autox.team.net>
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Had mine powder coated a lite silver, looks great. Beau

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Today's Topics:

   1. Air cleaner color (Owain Lloyd)
   2. Re: Air cleaner color (jimdamelio)
   3. Re: Air cleaner color (Owain Lloyd)
   4. Re: Air cleaner color (Bob Dobrowski)
   5. Hood (bonnet?)  Air scoop..... (Larry Mayfield)
   6. Re: Hood (bonnet?)  Air scoop..... (D or G at sbc)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:15:15 +0100
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
To: "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
Message-ID:
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Hi all,  happy new year.
Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:33:59 -0500
From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com, "tigers at autox.team.net"
        <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
Message-ID: <1425535506.322821.1642430042732 at verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

The best I've found is Hammerite silver gray. Rust-Oleum Hammered silver is
to silver for my tasteJim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/17/22  9:15 AM  (GMT-05:00) To:
tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Hi all, ?happy
new year.Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 16:25:16 +0100
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
Cc: "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks.  Ideally looking for a code I can give to my paint guy though.  But
that?s a good help in case I can?t get one.

Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle 15:34 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha
scritto:

> The best I've found is Hammerite silver gray. Rust-Oleum Hammered silver
> is to silver for my taste
>
> Jim D
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/17/22 9:15 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
> Hi all,  happy new year.
> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 07:25:57 -0800
From: Bob Dobrowski <rsdslp at juno.com>
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 07:37:20 -0800
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: [Tigers] Hood (bonnet?)  Air scoop.....
Message-ID: <001201d80bb8$1eef8010$5cce8030$@mayfco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Is there an acceptable hood scoop, replicating the OEM hood's scoop, and if
so, where?  I have my original hood, off car, and an Alpine one on my car.
Would perhaps like to get an active scoop on the car with a different paint
color.





Oh, while I am at it, I have a posi and 4.55:1 rear gear set for it that I
would like to trade for a posi for 2.88 gear set.  Anybody wanna trade?



Just email me iffn so and we will see what can be done.



Drmayf



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:51:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: D or G at sbc <orr4sale at sbcglobal.net>
To: "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>,  Larry Mayfield
        <drmayf at mayfco.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Hood (bonnet?)  Air scoop.....
Message-ID: <76306052.574733.1642434670076 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 There was a LAT rivet on scoop, might have been a Cobra scoop.
This might work
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265451176136?hash=item3dce1f80c8:g:dAwAAOSwT5tWOI7m&vxp=mtr
David
    On Monday, January 17, 2022, 07:38:58 AM PST, Larry Mayfield <
drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:


Is there an acceptable hood scoop, replicating the OEM hood?s scoop, and if
so, where?? I have my original hood, off car, and an Alpine one on my car.
Would perhaps like to get an active scoop on the car with a different paint
color.

 ?

 ?

Oh, while I am at it, I have a posi and 4.55:1 rear gear set for it that I
would like to trade for a posi for 2.88 gear set. ?Anybody wanna trade?

 ?

Just email me iffn so and we will see what can be done?

 ?

Drmayf

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From aballard at ix.netcom.com  Mon Jan 17 11:46:27 2022
From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:46:27 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <001f01d80bbd$33378270$99a68750$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
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Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where
It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

-Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
-Atlanta


> On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Bob
>                 Interesting ? can you send a picture?
>  
> Ron Fraser
>  
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
> To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>  
> Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer
>  
> On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> Hi all,  happy new year.
>> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>>  
>> Thanks!
> 
>  
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 17 12:13:11 2022
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:13:11 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <20126C37-9711-4F5C-AADB-7AFF2ADFCE20@ix.netcom.com>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <726a241b-28f5-448d-aa8b-7d031a90c8f2@email.android.com>
 <001f01d80bbd$33378270$99a68750$@bluefrog.com>
 <20126C37-9711-4F5C-AADB-7AFF2ADFCE20@ix.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <C5D69986-B1B2-4587-87AF-4570265A5730@sbcglobal.net>

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

Regards,

Don Antilla

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

-Allan Ballard

Mk1a Tiger

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

-Atlanta

 



On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

 

Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Mon Jan 17 12:37:25 2022
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:37:25 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <C5D69986-B1B2-4587-87AF-4570265A5730@sbcglobal.net>
References: <CANE47iRvSEMdk3FNMUd7WLQZ18vQGYps5xN_FTfqueFe_B99ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <726a241b-28f5-448d-aa8b-7d031a90c8f2@email.android.com>
 <001f01d80bbd$33378270$99a68750$@bluefrog.com>
 <20126C37-9711-4F5C-AADB-7AFF2ADFCE20@ix.netcom.com>
 <C5D69986-B1B2-4587-87AF-4570265A5730@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAMRx0hZWnJHmME8rLkqq6ErOwJw8uDsfPJrusDmW2Nz6oP2LqQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's grey hammertone.  I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with
correct color and texture.  Find attached.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better
> condition than mine.
>
> I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
>
> (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
>
> The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at
> your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Don Antilla
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard
> via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Reply-To: *Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
> *Date: *Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
>
>
> Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
>
>
>
> This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the
> elements where
>
> It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along
> with other Tiger parts.
>
>
>
> I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
>
>
>
> The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
>
>
>
> The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a
> window to the right.
>
>
>
> There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light
> bulb..
>
>
>
> Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
>
>
>
> The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
>
>
>
> -Allan Ballard
>
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
>
> -Atlanta
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>                 Interesting ? can you send a picture?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
> Dobrowski via Tigers
> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
> *To:* owain.lloyd at gmail.com
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
>
>
> Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears
> to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of
> paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame
> but slightly  bluer
>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,  happy new year.
>
> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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From rollright at aol.com  Mon Jan 17 12:53:18 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:53:18 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
References: <3FB2D947-0F70-45D8-BDE8-DECF10C03A2D.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3FB2D947-0F70-45D8-BDE8-DECF10C03A2D@aol.com>

Hello,
I think my initial sending of this note got lost between Dr. Mayfield?s request for information on hood scoops and a gentleman that was looking for paint colors on air cleaners. Both important and reasonable, but I ask if I could get a brief answer to my question as well.
??
I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.
Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?

Thanks in advance, 
Jim Armstrong




From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Mon Jan 17 13:26:09 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
In-Reply-To: <3FB2D947-0F70-45D8-BDE8-DECF10C03A2D@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1096928719.514387.1642451173259@verizon.net>

The BON states they were painted black. It does not break it down any further.? I used gloss on mine, but I used gloss on most everything.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/17/22  2:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer Hello,I think my initial sending of this note got lost between Dr. Mayfield?s request for information on hood scoops and a gentleman that was looking for paint colors on air cleaners. Both important and reasonable, but I ask if I could get a brief answer to my question as well.??I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?Thanks in advance, Jim Armstrong_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimdamelio at verizon.net
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From rollright at aol.com  Mon Jan 17 14:27:07 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 16:27:07 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
In-Reply-To: <1096928719.514387.1642451173259@verizon.net>
References: <1096928719.514387.1642451173259@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <828B50A1-7573-4306-86F2-6B10303958E9@aol.com>

Jim D,
Thanks for your answer. I tried gloss but it looks a little flash to me. I?ll proceed and hope for the best. By the way, I have access to a TBON and I see that he says it?s supposed to be black. But since I don?t want to bother doing it again I thought I?d ask online. You were very kind to answer.
If anybody knows what they looked like originally, I be much obliged to hear from you.
Jim Armstrong.   Rollright at aol.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2022, at 3:26 PM, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The BON states they were painted black. It does not break it down any further.  I used gloss on mine, but I used gloss on most everything.
> 
> Jim D
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/17/22 2:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
> 
> Hello,
> I think my initial sending of this note got lost between Dr. Mayfield?s request for information on hood scoops and a gentleman that was looking for paint colors on air cleaners. Both important and reasonable, but I ask if I could get a brief answer to my question as well.
> ??
> I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.
> Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> Jim Armstrong
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> tigers at autox.team.net
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 17 14:36:29 2022
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 16:36:29 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
References: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED.ref@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED@sbcglobal.net>

Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element. 

It is still pliable and not torn up.

There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)

Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.

Does this look like it would be close to original?

For your entertainment.

Don

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

It's grey hammertone.  I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with correct color and texture.  Find attached.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com

 

 

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

Regards,

Don Antilla

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

-Allan Ballard

Mk1a Tiger

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

-Atlanta

 

On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

 

Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 14:43:45 2022
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:43:45 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
In-Reply-To: <828B50A1-7573-4306-86F2-6B10303958E9@aol.com>
References: <1096928719.514387.1642451173259@verizon.net>
 <828B50A1-7573-4306-86F2-6B10303958E9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E3D3D48-4C0E-4EA8-A173-154F2664800C@gmail.com>

I would say ?gloss? is relative.  I don?t think they were satin.  I kind of think of all the paints on the Sunbeams as being a bit off ?gloss.?  Kind of like they were painted on a foggy day.  Oh, wait ?

Now don?t get me wrong.  They?ve been able to make things super glossy for a long time.  I just don?t think that the Sunbeams tended to be that way, and the odd bits of black here and there were even less.  And surfaces were not necessarily glass smooth, which also made for the paint to not have a high gloss look.

But I must admit I didn?t buy my Sunbeam new.  It was 8 years old when we got it.  So lots of time to deteriorate.  But still, the stuff in the trunk, without sun, in Southern California, were probably pretty close.



> On Jan 17, 2022, at 1:27 PM, JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Jim D,
> Thanks for your answer. I tried gloss but it looks a little flash to me. I?ll proceed and hope for the best. By the way, I have access to a TBON and I see that he says it?s supposed to be black. But since I don?t want to bother doing it again I thought I?d ask online. You were very kind to answer.
> If anybody knows what they looked like originally, I be much obliged to hear from you.
> Jim Armstrong.   Rollright at aol.com
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 3:26 PM, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> The BON states they were painted black. It does not break it down any further.  I used gloss on mine, but I used gloss on most everything.
>> 
>> Jim D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Date: 1/17/22 2:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I think my initial sending of this note got lost between Dr. Mayfield?s request for information on hood scoops and a gentleman that was looking for paint colors on air cleaners. Both important and reasonable, but I ask if I could get a brief answer to my question as well.
>> ??
>> I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.
>> Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> Jim Armstrong
>> 
>> 
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 17 15:37:47 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:37:47 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
In-Reply-To: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED@sbcglobal.net>
References: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Don

                Yes, it is close.   A very nice example of a 1977 replacement air filter.

 

The stock original air cleaner has 5 parts according to the Parts List

1224830                Air Cleaner

                                Bottom plate

                                Top plate

5042656                element sealing gaskets (2)

5042655                element

 

The last time I saw an original element it folded lengthwise and in a long thin Rootes box.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:36 PM
To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element

 

Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element. 

It is still pliable and not torn up.

There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)

Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.

Does this look like it would be close to original?

For your entertainment.

Don

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> >
Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

It's grey hammertone.  I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with correct color and texture.  Find attached.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

Regards,

Don Antilla

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

-Allan Ballard

Mk1a Tiger

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

-Atlanta

 



On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers < <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 17 15:47:03 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:47:03 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
In-Reply-To: <828B50A1-7573-4306-86F2-6B10303958E9@aol.com>
References: <1096928719.514387.1642451173259@verizon.net>
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Jim

                I painted mine gloss black.

Any color can be gloss to flat, there is flattening agent for changing the gloss level if you use a spray gun.

 

If gloss black is not to your liking try chassis black.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:27 PM
To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer

 

Jim D,

Thanks for your answer. I tried gloss but it looks a little flash to me. I?ll proceed and hope for the best. By the way, I have access to a TBON and I see that he says it?s supposed to be black. But since I don?t want to bother doing it again I thought I?d ask online. You were very kind to answer.

If anybody knows what they looked like originally, I be much obliged to hear from you.

Jim Armstrong.   Rollright at aol.com <mailto:Rollright at aol.com> 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 17, 2022, at 3:26 PM, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > wrote:

?

The BON states they were painted black. It does not break it down any further.  I used gloss on mine, but I used gloss on most everything.

 

Jim D

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 1/17/22 2:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>  

Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer 

 

Hello,
I think my initial sending of this note got lost between Dr. Mayfield?s request for information on hood scoops and a gentleman that was looking for paint colors on air cleaners. Both important and reasonable, but I ask if I could get a brief answer to my question as well.
??
I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.
Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?

Thanks in advance, 
Jim Armstrong



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From rollright at aol.com  Mon Jan 17 16:20:24 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:20:24 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
In-Reply-To: <006a01d80bf4$262319f0$72694dd0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <006a01d80bf4$262319f0$72694dd0$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <DAFF3327-1EFD-4946-BD3D-EE5BE29D86FE@aol.com>

Sage advice Ron, as usual. Thanks for taking the time to write.

 Jim Armstrong

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Jim
>                 I painted mine gloss black.
> Any color can be gloss to flat, there is flattening agent for changing the gloss level if you use a spray gun.
>  
> If gloss black is not to your liking try chassis black.
>  
> Ron Fraser
>  
>  
>  
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:27 PM
> To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
>  
> Jim D,
> Thanks for your answer. I tried gloss but it looks a little flash to me. I?ll proceed and hope for the best. By the way, I have access to a TBON and I see that he says it?s supposed to be black. But since I don?t want to bother doing it again I thought I?d ask online. You were very kind to answer.
> If anybody knows what they looked like originally, I be much obliged to hear from you.
> Jim Armstrong.   Rollright at aol.com
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2022, at 3:26 PM, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The BON states they were painted black. It does not break it down any further.  I used gloss on mine, but I used gloss on most everything.
>  
> Jim D
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my Galaxy
>  
>  
> -------- Original message --------
> From: JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/17/22 2:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Type of black paint for spare hole down bolt and washer
>  
> Hello,
> I think my initial sending of this note got lost between Dr. Mayfield?s request for information on hood scoops and a gentleman that was looking for paint colors on air cleaners. Both important and reasonable, but I ask if I could get a brief answer to my question as well.
> ??
> I need some advice on the type of black paint used on the bolt/washer assembly that holds the spare tire down on the Tiger.
> Is it flat, matt, semi gloss, or gloss ?
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> Jim Armstrong
> 
> 
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 17 16:35:05 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:35:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
In-Reply-To: <006401d80bf2$dad47ee0$907d7ca0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Yes, I would call the photos hammertone silver... like I remember mine in 1971.
It was also peeling off just like Allan's.  My re-sprays back in the day looked pretty much
like that but also peeled like original in just a few years (or less).

I see concours TIgers with a MUCH more pronounced hammer from modern paint and they
just are not right.

Sears!  I got my NOS exhaust system from Sears in 1975, still on my car!

So that air cleaner is from 1977.  Seems like an improved one piece version of the original
three piece filter.

I happen to know where there is a small stash of I think identical
filters, brand new.   WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THOSE ARE WORTH?
Gary


>     On 01/17/2022 5:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Don
> 
>                     Yes, it is close.   A very nice example of a 1977 replacement air filter.
> 
> 
>     The stock original air cleaner has 5 parts according to the Parts List
> 
>     1224830                Air Cleaner
> 
>                                     Bottom plate
> 
>                                     Top plate
> 
>     5042656                element sealing gaskets (2)
> 
>     5042655                element
> 
> 
>     The last time I saw an original element it folded lengthwise and in a long thin Rootes box.
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
>     Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:36 PM
>     To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>     Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
>     Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
> 
> 
>     Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element.
> 
>     It is still pliable and not torn up.
> 
>     There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)
> 
>     Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.
> 
>     Does this look like it would be close to original?
> 
>     For your entertainment.
> 
>     Don
> 
>      
> 
>     From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com >
>     Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM
>     To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net >
>     Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com >, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com >, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net >
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> 
> 
>     It's grey hammertone.  I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with correct color and texture.  Find attached.
> 
>      
> 
>     Will - 382001570
>     Tigers at embarqmail.com mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>     On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.
> > 
> >         I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
> > 
> >         (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
> > 
> >         The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Regards,
> > 
> >         Don Antilla
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net >
> >         Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com >
> >         Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
> >         To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com >
> >         Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net >
> >         Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> > 
> > 
> >         Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
> > 
> > 
> >         This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where
> > 
> >         It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.
> > 
> > 
> >         I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
> > 
> > 
> >         The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
> > 
> > 
> >         The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 
> > 
> > 
> >         There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..
> > 
> > 
> >         Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
> > 
> > 
> >         The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
> > 
> > 
> >         -Allan Ballard
> > 
> >         Mk1a Tiger
> > 
> >         Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
> > 
> >         -Atlanta
> > 
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Bob
> > > 
> > >                             Interesting ? can you send a picture?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Ron Fraser
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
> > >             Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
> > >             To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com
> > >             Cc: tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net
> > >             Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 Hi all,  happy new year.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > >             > > > 
> > > 
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Mon Jan 17 16:43:48 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:43:48 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
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That is a GUD aftermarket filter.? ?What I see strange is the receipt lists the AC part number.? Attached is a picture of an original AC filter I sold a few years ago.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/17/22  4:58 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element. It is still pliable and not torn up.There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.Does this look like it would be close to original?For your entertainment.Don?From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PMTo: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color?It's grey hammertone.? I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with correct color and texture.? Find attached.?Will - 382001570 Tigers at embarqmail.com??On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.?Regards,Don Antilla??From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color?Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.?This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements whereIt sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts?I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.?The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.?The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right.??There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb.?Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.?The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.?-Allan BallardMk1a TigerSeries I Alpine(V6, T5)-Atlanta?On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:?Bob??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture??Ron Fraser?From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color?Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer?On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:Hi all, ?happy new year.Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing??Thanks!?_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard at ix.netcom.com?_______________________________________________ tigers at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fast427 at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tigers at embarqmail.com
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 17 17:09:40 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:09:40 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

Regards,

Don Antilla

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

-Allan Ballard

Mk1a Tiger

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

-Atlanta

 



On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers < <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Mon Jan 17 17:14:48 2022
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 00:14:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 33
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Having been asked this question at least a hundred times :)I've seen lots of guys use a Krylon hammer tone.? The color is close but needs to be applied very lightly and from a good distance away.? The wetter the paint application the bigger the fish eyes , I mean hammered effect.?
The closest color not quite semi gloss was a silver that I once had for motorcycle side cases on early 60s vintage Hondas. It could be flattened by a light color sand and a rubbing compound hand application.
Alas most paints at NLA in Calunicornia.? The couple original housings I've seen were rather weathered and had the typical appearance of no primer and finish directly over bare steel.? The engine baked finish was peeling on both I handled.?

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:24:49 -0500
From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
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Tiger Friends:

 Here are three photos of the Air Cleaner from my (former) GT Tiger.

I hope you can gain some information from these photos. My impression from having ?eyes-on? is that there is no Hammertone and the color is a silver tint. The color reminds me of Ford?s ?Argent? paint which has a bit of brightness- a bit more than a satin tone.

I?m sure you will note the black paint; I guess a prior owner applied that at some time in the history of this GT Tiger.

I took a close look at the black paint with a magnifying glass, and then scraped my fingernail on the paint to see which is the base layer; it is clear that the black was sprayed over the silver (?Argent?)

The original Ford P/N was a C7AZ- type; now Ford sells it under PM-19K207-AA

 

I hope all this is helpful.

Don Antilla

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 11:14 AM
To: 'Bob Dobrowski' <rsdslp at juno.com>, <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
Cc: <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Bob

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,? happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Jan 17 17:21:17 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:21:17 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
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Gary

                Hammer tone is one of those finicky paints like Wrinkle paint.

Paint them at different temperatures and you get different looking finishes.

 

Making paint stick is all in the paint prep work.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 6:35 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner element

 

Yes, I would call the photos hammertone silver... like I remember mine in 1971. 

It was also peeling off just like Allan's.  My re-sprays back in the day looked pretty much 

like that but also peeled like original in just a few years (or less). 

 

I see concours TIgers with a MUCH more pronounced hammer from modern paint and they 

just are not right. 

 

Sears!  I got my NOS exhaust system from Sears in 1975, still on my car! 

 

So that air cleaner is from 1977.  Seems like an improved one piece version of the original 

three piece filter. 

 

I happen to know where there is a small stash of I think identical 

filters, brand new.   WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THOSE ARE WORTH? 

Gary 

 

On 01/17/2022 5:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Don

                Yes, it is close.   A very nice example of a 1977 replacement air filter.

 

The stock original air cleaner has 5 parts according to the Parts List

1224830                Air Cleaner

                                Bottom plate

                                Top plate

5042656                element sealing gaskets (2)

5042655                element

 

The last time I saw an original element it folded lengthwise and in a long thin Rootes box.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> > 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:36 PM
To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> >
Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >; Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element

 

Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element. 

It is still pliable and not torn up.

There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)

Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.

Does this look like it would be close to original?

For your entertainment.

Don

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> >
Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

It's grey hammertone.  I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with correct color and texture.  Find attached.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

Regards,

Don Antilla

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

-Allan Ballard

Mk1a Tiger

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

-Atlanta

 



On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

Bob

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers < <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi all,  happy new year.

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

Thanks!

 

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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 17 17:21:55 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:21:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <008801d80bff$b0b222e0$121668a0$@bluefrog.com>
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I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going
into the engine..  or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown
servo, LOL..
Gary


>     On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
>     From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
>     Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
>     To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>     Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> 
> 
>     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.
> 
>     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
> 
>     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
> 
>     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
> 
>      
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Don Antilla
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net >
>     Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com >
>     Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
>     To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com >
>     Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net >
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> 
> 
>     Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
> 
> 
>     This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where
> 
>     It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.
> 
> 
>     I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
> 
> 
>     The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
> 
> 
>     The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 
> 
> 
>     There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..
> 
> 
>     Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
> 
> 
>     The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
> 
> 
>     -Allan Ballard
> 
>     Mk1a Tiger
> 
>     Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
> 
>     -Atlanta
> 
> 
>         > > 
> >         On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >         Bob
> > 
> >                         Interesting ? can you send a picture?
> > 
> > 
> >         Ron Fraser
> > 
> > 
> >         From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
> >         Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
> >         To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com
> >         Cc: tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net
> >         Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> > 
> > 
> >         Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer
> > 
> > 
> >         On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             Hi all,  happy new year.
> > > 
> > >             Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Thanks!
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> > 
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> > 
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From garywinblad at comcast.net  Mon Jan 17 18:18:07 2022
From: garywinblad at comcast.net (GARY WINBLAD)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:18:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
In-Reply-To: <008e01d80c01$50240c70$f06c2550$@bluefrog.com>
References: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Yes, prep.
I think the instructions said no primer, direct to metal.. I think that was the problem.

For a modern hammertone paint, go to ACE Hardware.
See the red 5.0L/5speed car currently on BAT.  The hammer looks pretty close to stock.
The builder just remembers he got it at ACE.
Gary


>     On 01/17/2022 7:21 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Gary
> 
>                     Hammer tone is one of those finicky paints like Wrinkle paint.
> 
>     Paint them at different temperatures and you get different looking finishes.
> 
> 
>     Making paint stick is all in the paint prep work.
> 
> 
>     Ron Fraser
> 
> 
> 
>     From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
>     Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 6:35 PM
>     To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
>     Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
> 
> 
>     Yes, I would call the photos hammertone silver... like I remember mine in 1971.
> 
>     It was also peeling off just like Allan's.  My re-sprays back in the day looked pretty much
> 
>     like that but also peeled like original in just a few years (or less).
> 
> 
>     I see concours TIgers with a MUCH more pronounced hammer from modern paint and they
> 
>     just are not right.
> 
> 
>     Sears!  I got my NOS exhaust system from Sears in 1975, still on my car!
> 
> 
>     So that air cleaner is from 1977.  Seems like an improved one piece version of the original
> 
>     three piece filter.
> 
> 
>     I happen to know where there is a small stash of I think identical
> 
>     filters, brand new.   WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THOSE ARE WORTH?
> 
>     Gary
> 
> 
>         > > 
> >         On 01/17/2022 5:37 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Don
> > 
> >                         Yes, it is close.   A very nice example of a 1977 replacement air filter.
> > 
> > 
> >         The stock original air cleaner has 5 parts according to the Parts List
> > 
> >         1224830                Air Cleaner
> > 
> >                                         Bottom plate
> > 
> >                                         Top plate
> > 
> >         5042656                element sealing gaskets (2)
> > 
> >         5042655                element
> > 
> > 
> >         The last time I saw an original element it folded lengthwise and in a long thin Rootes box.
> > 
> > 
> >         Ron Fraser
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net >
> >         Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:36 PM
> >         To: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com >
> >         Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com >; Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net >
> >         Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
> > 
> > 
> >         Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color, I found my element.
> > 
> >         It is still pliable and not torn up.
> > 
> >         There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)
> > 
> >         Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.
> > 
> >         Does this look like it would be close to original?
> > 
> >         For your entertainment.
> > 
> >         Don
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com >
> >         Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM
> >         To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net >
> >         Cc: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com >, Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com >, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net >
> >         Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> > 
> > 
> >         It's grey hammertone.  I cropped Alan's first picture to show an area with correct color and texture.  Find attached.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Will - 382001570
> >         Tigers at embarqmail.com mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.
> > > 
> > >             I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
> > > 
> > >             (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
> > > 
> > >             The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Regards,
> > > 
> > >             Don Antilla
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net >
> > >             Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com >
> > >             Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
> > >             To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com >
> > >             Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net >
> > >             Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where
> > > 
> > >             It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             -Allan Ballard
> > > 
> > >             Mk1a Tiger
> > > 
> > >             Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
> > > 
> > >             -Atlanta
> > > 
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 Bob
> > > > 
> > > >                                 Interesting ? can you send a picture?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 Ron Fraser
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
> > > >                 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
> > > >                 To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com
> > > >                 Cc: tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net
> > > >                 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net mailto:tigers at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >                     > > > > > 
> > > > >                     Hi all,  happy new year.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Thanks!
> > > > > 
> > > > >                 > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >                 _______________________________________________
> > > > 
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> > > > 
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> > > >             > > > 
> > > 
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Jan 18 12:57:22 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:57:22 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Thanks all.

Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.



Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
ha scritto:

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> On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
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> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
> *To:* Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <
> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
>
>
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> Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better
> condition than mine.
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>
> I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
>
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> (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
>
>
> The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at
> your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
>
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>
> Regards,
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> Don Antilla
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> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard
> via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Reply-To: *Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
> *Date: *Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
>
>
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> Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
>
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> This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the
> elements where
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>
>
>
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> It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along
> with other Tiger parts.
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> Dobrowski via Tigers
> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
> *To:* owain.lloyd at gmail.com
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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> paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 13:23:50 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 15:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Thanks all. ?Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:              I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going              into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown              servo, LOL..              Gary                             On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:                                       Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?          Ron Fraser                       From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.     ?     Regards,     Don Antilla     ?     ?           From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                          Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.                           This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where                It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.                                I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.                                The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.                                The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right.?                                There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..                                Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.                                The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.                                -Allan Ballard                Mk1a Tiger                Series I Alpine(V6, T5)                -Atlanta                                                     On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                           Bob                            ??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?                                                        Ron Fraser                                                        From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                                                                   Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer                                                                                            On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                                             Hi all, ?happy new year.                                                                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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Jan 18 13:35:15 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 21:35:15 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Repro bought a few years back.  I can?t tell the difference to be honest.
Really nicely made.

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha
scritto:

> Looks great.  Is that an original or one of the reproductions?
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> Sent from my Galaxy
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.
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> Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
> ha scritto:
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>> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
>> *To:* Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <
>> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>> *Cc:* Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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>> Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better
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>> The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at
>> your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
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>> Regards,
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>> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan
>> Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <aballard at ixnetcom.com>
>> >
>> *Date: *Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
>> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>> *Cc: *Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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>> Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
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>> This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the
>> elements where
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>> It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along
>> with other Tiger parts.
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>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>> Dobrowski via Tigers
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
>> *To:* owain.lloyd at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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>> Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears
>> to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of
>> paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame
>> but slightly  bluer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
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>> Hi all,  happy new year.
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>> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>>
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>> Thanks!
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>> _______________________________________________
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 14:11:35 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:11:35 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iR+m3s0UqWVtjfz4yUbfGDRJa1Z8V7858U9j7uLX6wO6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1838668655.647624.1642540315310@verizon.net>

I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Thanks all. ?Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:              I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going              into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown              servo, LOL..              Gary                             On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:                                       Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?          Ron Fraser                       From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.     ?     Regards,     Don Antilla     ?     ?           From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                          Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.                           This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where                It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.                                I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.                                The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.                                The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?                                There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..                                Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.                                The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.                                -Allan Ballard                Mk1a Tiger                Series I Alpine(V6, T5)                -Atlanta                                                     On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                           Bob                            ??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?                                                        Ron Fraser                                                        From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                                                                   Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer                                                                                            On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                                             Hi all, ?happy new year.                                                                Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?                                                                                                                                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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Jan 18 14:19:06 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:19:06 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <1838668655.647624.1642540315310@verizon.net>
References: <CANE47iR+m3s0UqWVtjfz4yUbfGDRJa1Z8V7858U9j7uLX6wO6g@mail.gmail.com>
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Good to know.  Fits my pro systems custom made carb fine.  If they don?t
fit a Holley 4150, makes you wonder what they are designed to fit.  Maybe
there is something different about your carb?

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 22:11 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha
scritto:

> I got a reproduction and so did a friend.  Found out they don't fit on a
> Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.  The bottom on the base plate isn't
> punched deep enough.  I compared it to my original which fits fine.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> Date: 1/18/22 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <
> tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
> Repro bought a few years back.  I can?t tell the difference to be honest.
> Really nicely made.
>
> Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Looks great.  Is that an original or one of the reproductions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
>> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <
>> garywinblad at comcast.net <garywinblad at comcastnet>> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts
>>> peeling its going
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> into the engine..  or course I guess it would just mix with the brake
>>> fluid from the blown
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> servo, LOL..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
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>>>
>>> On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Fraser
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
>>> *To:* Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <
>>> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>>> *Cc:* Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better
>>> condition than mine.
>>>
>>>
>>> I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
>>>
>>>
>>> (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
>>>
>>>
>>> The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at
>>> your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Antilla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan
>>> Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>>> *Reply-To: *Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com
>>> <aballard at ixnetcom.com>>
>>> *Date: *Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
>>> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>>> *Cc: *Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner
>>> housings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the
>>> elements where
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks,
>>> along with other Tiger parts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a
>>> window to the right
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light
>>> bulb..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Allan Ballard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mk1a Tiger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Atlanta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
>>> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Interesting ? can you send a picture?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Fraser
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>>> Dobrowski via Tigers
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
>>> *To:* owain.lloyd at gmail.com
>>> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but
>>> appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein
>>> type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top
>>> frame but slightly  bluer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,  happy new year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From maliburevue at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 18 14:22:40 2022
From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 21:22:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <1838668655.647624.1642540315310@verizon.net>
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 Will it fit under the hood with the spacer installed?
    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 PM MST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: 
 I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.
Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:

Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
Thanks all. ?
Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.


Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:







 

 

 

  

 

 I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going 

 
 

  

 

 into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown 

 
 

  

 

 servo, LOL.. 

 
 

  

 

 Gary 

 
 

  

  

 
 

  

 








 

 

 On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote: 

  

  

 
 

  

  

 
 

  

 







 

 
Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?
 

 


 

 
Ron Fraser
 

 


 

  

  

 
From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
 

  

  

 


 

 
Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.
 

 
I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
 

 
(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
 

 
The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
 

 
?
 

 
Regards,
 

 
Don Antilla
 

 
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
 

  

  

 


 

  

 
Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
 

  

 


 

  

  

 
This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where
 

  

  

 
It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
-Allan Ballard
 

  

  

 
Mk1a Tiger
 

  

  

 
Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
 

  

  

 
-Atlanta
 

  

 



 

 


 

  

 

 

 






 

  

 
On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

  

 


 

 











 

  

 
Bob
 

  

  

 
??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
Ron Fraser
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To:?owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc:?tigers at autox.team.net
Subject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

  

 
Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer
 

  

  

  

  

 


 

  

  

  

 
On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

  

 
 

  

  

 
Hi all, ?happy new year.
 

  

  

  

  

 
Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
 

  

  

  

  

 


 

  

  

  

  

 
Thanks!
 

  

  

 
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 














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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Tue Jan 18 14:41:05 2022
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:41:05 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner element
In-Reply-To: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED@sbcglobal.net>
References: <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <A13BC29B-08E5-445F-962D-9981565EFCED@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAMRx0haGy-xM8asfcZ9XMDvj53+y=JhQ+0Ke0B-0zhBDp3nn9A@mail.gmail.com>

Don,
I think I may have an NOS copy of your filter element (see photos).  I
bought it many years ago from BAP Geon.
BAP is still in business but they don't seem to have anything for a Tiger.
It's likely that both BAP
and Sears got their elements from GUD.  That's the GUD logo and the filter
type, AG364,  on the element.
All the aftermarket elements back then had integral gaskets, whereas the
original filter had two separate
gaskets that fit into the upper and lower plates of the filter housing.  I
had been saving the element to crown
my Tiger's engine after restoration.  When I went to put it on, I found
that It had shrunk!  Maybe I need to
come up with some kind of stretcher to get the element back to size.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:36 PM Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Friends: As I was photographing my original Air Cleaner to discuss color,
> I found my element.
>
> It is still pliable and not torn up.
>
> There is a formed logo in the black rubber. (see photo)
>
> Interestingly, it is from Sears and cost $10.36 a long time ago.
>
> Does this look like it would be close to original?
>
> For your entertainment.
>
> Don
>
>
>
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 15:04:44 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 17:04:44 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iTzpEiF6C9G3VTEZkS8h7+T2zPOi1dUxPP5haZF0j1DOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1983831956.566141.1642543500941@verizon.net>

No it's not my carb.? I have two 1850-2, a new 80457S and a friend has a new 1850S and it needs a spacer on all of them or maybe 3 gaskets.? In my original email I should have wrote 4160.? It will fit 4150's because the secondary metering block moves the float bowl lock screw further out,? which is what the air cleaner hits.? Attached are pictures of measurement of the original and repro.? The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is 3/8.? ?I'm sure it will fit the stock 2 bbl.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  4:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Good to know.? Fits my pro systems custom made carb fine.? If they don?t fit a Holley 4150, makes you wonder what they are designed to fit.? Maybe there is something different about your carb?Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 22:11 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Thanks all. ?Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking niceIl giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:              I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going              into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown              servo, LOL..              Gary                             On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:                                       Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?          Ron Fraser                       From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.     ?     Regards,     Don Antilla     ?     ?           From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                          Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.                           This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where                It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.                                I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.                                The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.                                The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?                                There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..                                Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.                                The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.                                -Allan Ballard                Mk1a Tiger                Series I Alpine(V6, T5)                -Atlanta                                                     On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autoxteam.net> wrote:                                           Bob                            ??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?                                                        Ron Fraser                                                        From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                                                                   Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer                                                                                            On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                                             Hi all, ?happy new year.                                                                Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?                                                                                                                                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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 15:10:03 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 17:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <357563983.2007356.1642540961554@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <516213808.570719.1642543813214@verizon.net>

Haven't checked that yet, but it should.? The cast aluminum Tiger air cleaner that matches the valve covers came with instructions stating it needed a 1" spacer.? That air cleaner hits the same spot on the carb as the new sheet metal repro does.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Gary via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  4:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
        Will it fit under the hood with the spacer installed?
        
        
            
                
                
                    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 PM MST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
                
                I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.teamnet> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Thanks all. ?Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:              I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going              into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown              servo, LOL..              Gary                             On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:                                       Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?          Ron Fraser                       From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.     ?     Regards,     Don Antilla     ?     ?           From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                          Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.                           This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where                It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.                                I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.                                The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.                                The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?                                There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..                                Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.                                The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.                                -Allan Ballard                Mk1a Tiger                Series I Alpine(V6, T5)                -Atlanta                                                     On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                           Bob                            ??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?                                                        Ron Fraser                                                        From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                                                                   Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer                                                                                            On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                                             Hi all, ?happy new year.                                                                Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?                                                                                                                                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From maliburevue at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 18 15:16:22 2022
From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:16:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <516213808.570719.1642543813214@verizon.net>
References: <357563983.2007356.1642540961554@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1994329073.2037660.1642544183237@mail.yahoo.com>

 How tall of a spacer do you need? Trying to minimize the overall height.
    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 03:10:17 PM MST, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> wrote:  
 
 Haven't checked that yet, but it should.? The cast aluminum Tiger air cleaner that matches the valve covers came with instructions stating it needed a 1" spacer.? That air cleaner hits the same spot on the carb as the new sheet metal repro does.
-------- Original message --------From: Gary via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22 4:40 PM (GMT-05:00) To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
 Will it fit under the hood with the spacer installed?
    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 PM MST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote: 
 I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.teamnet> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.
Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:

Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
Thanks all. ?
Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.


Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:







 

 

 

  

 

 I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going 

 
 

  

 

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Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?
 

 


 

 
Ron Fraser
 

 


 

  

  

 
From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
 

  

  

 


 

 
Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.
 

 
I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
 

 
(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
 

 
The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
 

 
?
 

 
Regards,
 

 
Don Antilla
 

 
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?
 

  

 
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
 

  

  

 


 

  

 
Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.
 

  

 


 

  

  

 
This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where
 

  

  

 
It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
-Allan Ballard
 

  

  

 
Mk1a Tiger
 

  

  

 
Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
 

  

  

 
-Atlanta
 

  

 



 

 


 

  

 

 

 






 

  

 
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Bob
 

  

  

 
??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

 
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From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To:?owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc:?tigers at autox.team.net
Subject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
 

  

  

 


 

  

  

  

 
Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer
 

  

  

  

  

 


 

  

  

  

 
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Hi all, ?happy new year.
 

  

  

  

  

 
Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
 

  

  

  

  

 


 

  

  

  

  

 
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Jan 18 15:27:10 2022
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 23:27:10 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <1983831956.566141.1642543500941@verizon.net>
References: <CANE47iTzpEiF6C9G3VTEZkS8h7+T2zPOi1dUxPP5haZF0j1DOg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1983831956.566141.1642543500941@verizon.net>
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Ah ok. Well I don?t suppose we can expect it to fit later design carbs,
although it?s annoying if the original does.  I?ve never liked the transfer
pipe set up on the 4160.  Are you using that just because you don?t have
space for a 4150 style without hitting the bulkhead?  I ended up notching
the triangular piece and folding it in a few mm to fit my pro systems (4150
style) carb.  Not ideal, but I need that carb to wake up all the 490 horses.

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 23:05 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha
scritto:

> No it's not my carb.  I have two 1850-2, a new 80457S and a friend has a
> new 1850S and it needs a spacer on all of them or maybe 3 gaskets.  In my
> original email I should have wrote 4160.  It will fit 4150's because the
> secondary metering block moves the float bowl lock screw further out,
> which is what the air cleaner hits.  Attached are pictures of measurement
> of the original and repro.  The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is
> 3/8.   I'm sure it will fit the stock 2 bbl.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> Date: 1/18/22 4:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <
> tigers at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>
> Good to know.  Fits my pro systems custom made carb fine.  If they don?t
> fit a Holley 4150, makes you wonder what they are designed to fit.  Maybe
> there is something different about your carb?
>
> Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 22:11 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
> ha scritto:
>
>> I got a reproduction and so did a friend.  Found out they don't fit on a
>> Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.  The bottom on the base plate isn't
>> punched deep enough.  I compared it to my original which fits fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
>> Date: 1/18/22 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
>> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <
>> tigers at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>
>> Repro bought a few years back.  I can?t tell the difference to be
>> honest.  Really nicely made.
>>
>> Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Looks great.  Is that an original or one of the reproductions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>>> Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>
>>> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>
>>> Thanks all.
>>>
>>> Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <
>>> garywinblad at comcast.net <garywinblad at comcastnet>> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it
>>>> starts peeling its going
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> into the engine..  or course I guess it would just mix with the brake
>>>> fluid from the blown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> servo, LOL..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Fraser
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <fast427 at sbcglobalnet>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
>>>> *To:* Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <
>>>> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better
>>>> condition than mine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at
>>>> your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don Antilla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan
>>>> Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>>>> *Reply-To: *Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com
>>>> <aballard at ixnetcom.com>>
>>>> *Date: *Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
>>>> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
>>>> *Cc: *Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner
>>>> housings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the
>>>> elements where
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks,
>>>> along with other Tiger parts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a
>>>> window to the right
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light
>>>> bulb..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Allan Ballard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mk1a Tiger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Series I Alpine(V6, T5)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Atlanta
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
>>>> tigers at autoxteam.net <tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Interesting ? can you send a picture?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Fraser
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>>>> Dobrowski via Tigers
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
>>>> *To:* owain.lloyd at gmail.com
>>>> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but
>>>> appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein
>>>> type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top
>>>> frame but slightly  bluer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,  happy new year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From rollright at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 15:39:30 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:39:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
References: <49625626.909925.1642545570065.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49625626.909925.1642545570065@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello again,
?I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)on all series Tigers and Alpines.The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the steel parts to disassemble.?Any genius solutions out there??Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 15:48:46 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 17:48:46 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <1994329073.2037660.1642544183237@mail.yahoo.com>
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It was a 1/2" spacer my friend bought.? He had to use a dremal tool to modify it to fit.? He got it from Jegs or Summit.? There are probably others out there that don't need modification.? ?He was kind of upset. He had spent $500 or so on the air cleaner. $300 to get it chromed and $400 on a new carb and the exact copy didn't fit, but my original did.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Gary <maliburevue at yahoo.com> Date: 1/18/22  5:16 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
        How tall of a spacer do you need? Trying to minimize the overall height.
        
        
            
                
                
                    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 03:10:17 PM MST, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> wrote:
                
                
                
                Haven't checked that yet, but it should.? The cast aluminum Tiger air cleaner that matches the valve covers came with instructions stating it needed a 1" spacer.? That air cleaner hits the same spot on the carb as the new sheet metal repro does.-------- Original message --------From: Gary via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  4:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 
        Will it fit under the hood with the spacer installed?
        
        
            
                
                
                    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 PM MST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
                
                I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.teamnet> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Thanks all. ?Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:              I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going              into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown              servo, LOL..              Gary                             On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:                                       Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?          Ron Fraser                       From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.     ?     Regards,     Don Antilla     ?     ?           From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                          Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.                           This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where                It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.                                I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.                                The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.                                The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?                                There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..                                Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.                                The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.                                -Allan Ballard                Mk1a Tiger                Series I Alpine(V6, T5)                -Atlanta                                                     On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                           Bob                            ??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?                                                        Ron Fraser                                                        From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                                                                   Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer                                                                                            On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                                             Hi all, ?happy new year.                                                                Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?                                                                                                                                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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jan 18 15:57:47 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 17:57:47 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
In-Reply-To: <49625626.909925.1642545570065@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <49625626.909925.1642545570065.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <49625626.909925.1642545570065@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006601d80cbe$d0bfcd20$723f6760$@bluefrog.com>

Jim

 

I use Evaporust mostly ? this is a water base solution ? it will only remove iron oxide ? place in suitable plastic container and cover the part with Evaporust let is sit overnight or longer.    There are other names out there but look for the non-acid type only.

 

If it just needs a deep lube, soak with ATF.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:40 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting

 

Hello again,

 

I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)

on all series Tigers and Alpines.

The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the steel parts to disassemble.

 

Any genius solutions out there?

 

Jim Armstrong

Mk 1A

382002083 LRXFE

Code 86

TAC # 0763

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From douglasalyle at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 18 15:59:58 2022
From: douglasalyle at yahoo.com (Douglas Lyle)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:59:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
In-Reply-To: <49625626.909925.1642545570065@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <49625626.909925.1642545570065.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 James, try Evapo-Rust.?? You will be amazed at the results.?? You can get it at your local hardware or auto store.?? I have 5 gallons of it and find myself looking for rusty parts just to see what magic it is.??? Take a before and after picture and share your results.? 

There is electrolysis too but doesn't work as good or fast in my opinion.





Doug Lyle

    On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:48:36 PM PST, James Armstrong via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hello again,
?I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)on all series Tigers and Alpines.The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the steel parts to disassemble.?Any genius solutions out there??Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC # 0763_______________________________________________

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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 16:01:18 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:01:18 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Wow 490 horses.? Just stock 260 with a mild cam, 4bbl and headers here.??I was going to rebuild one of the 1850-2, but once I got into them figured why mess around with this old junk and bought a refurbished 80457S from Holley.? It's an 1850 with auto choke.? It was only $250 compared to $400 new and still has the one year warranty.?Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  5:27 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Ah ok. Well I don?t suppose we can expect it to fit later design carbs, although it?s annoying if the original does.? I?ve never liked the transfer pipe set up on the 4160.? Are you using that just because you don?t have space for a 4150 style without hitting the bulkhead?? I ended up notching the triangular piece and folding it in a few mm to fit my pro systems (4150 style) carb.? Not ideal, but I need that carb to wake up all the 490 horses.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 23:05 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:No it's not my carb.? I have two 1850-2, a new 80457S and a friend has a new 1850S and it needs a spacer on all of them or maybe 3 gaskets.? In my original email I should have wrote 4160.? It will fit 4150's because the secondary metering block moves the float bowl lock screw further out,? which is what the air cleaner hits.? Attached are pictures of measurement of the original and repro.? The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is 3/8.? ?I'm sure it will fit the stock 2 bbl.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  4:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Good to know.? Fits my pro systems custom made carb fine.? If they don?t fit a Holley 4150, makes you wonder what they are designed to fit.? Maybe there is something different about your carb?Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 22:11 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> Date: 1/18/22  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net>, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net> ha scritto:Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  3:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Thanks all. ?Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking niceIl giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net> ha scritto:              I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going              into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown              servo, LOL..              Gary                             On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:                                       Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?          Ron Fraser                       From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PMTo: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                     Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.     I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.     (I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)     The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.     ?     Regards,     Don Antilla     ?     ?           From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com>Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PMTo: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                          Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.                           This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where                It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.                                I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.                                The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.                                The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right?                                There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..                                Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.                                The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.                                -Allan Ballard                Mk1a Tiger                Series I Alpine(V6, T5)                -Atlanta                                                     On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autoxteam.net> wrote:                                           Bob                            ??????????????? Interesting ? can you send a picture?                                                        Ron Fraser                                                        From:?Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?Bob Dobrowski via TigersSent:?Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AMTo:?owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc:?tigers at autox.team.netSubject:?Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color                                                                   Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer                                                                                            On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:                                                             Hi all, ?happy new year.                                                                Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?                                                                                                                                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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jan 18 16:01:46 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:01:46 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
In-Reply-To: <1202438315.658308.1642546130964@verizon.net>
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Jim

                If the exact copy does not fit and the original does ? there has to be a measurable difference between them.

It would be great to understand that difference.

 

Ron Fraser 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:49 PM
To: Gary <maliburevue at yahoo.com>; owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

It was a 1/2" spacer my friend bought.  He had to use a dremal tool to modify it to fit.  He got it from Jegs or Summit.  There are probably others out there that don't need modification.   He was kind of upset. He had spent $500 or so on the air cleaner. $300 to get it chromed and $400 on a new carb and the exact copy didn't fit, but my original did.

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Gary <maliburevue at yahoo.com <mailto:maliburevue at yahoo.com> > 

Date: 1/18/22 5:16 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> , jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > 

Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

How tall of a spacer do you need? Trying to minimize the overall height.

 

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 03:10:17 PM MST, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Haven't checked that yet, but it should.  The cast aluminum Tiger air cleaner that matches the valve covers came with instructions stating it needed a 1" spacer.  That air cleaner hits the same spot on the carb as the new sheet metal repro does.

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Gary via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 1/18/22 4:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com>  

Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

Will it fit under the hood with the spacer installed?

 

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 PM MST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

I got a reproduction and so did a friend.  Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.  The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.  I compared it to my original which fits fine.

 

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From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 

Date: 1/18/22 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > 

Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> >, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.teamnet <mailto:tigers at autox.teamnet> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

Repro bought a few years back.  I can?t tell the difference to be honest.  Really nicely made.

 

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > ha scritto:

Looks great.  Is that an original or one of the reproductions?

 

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Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> > 

Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

Thanks all.  

 

Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.

 







 

 

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcastnet> > ha scritto:












 



I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going 





 



into the engine..  or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown 





 



servo, LOL.. 





 



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On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote: 

 







 







 

 

Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

 

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> > 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

 

 

 

 

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

 

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

 

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

 

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Don Antilla

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ixnetcom.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

 

 

 

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Allan Ballard

 

 

 

Mk1a Tiger

 

 

 

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

 

 

 

-Atlanta

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

 

                Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autoxteam.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly  blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly  bluer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers < <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all,  happy new year.

 

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From chris at cthompson.net  Tue Jan 18 16:12:30 2022
From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:12:30 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
In-Reply-To: <006601d80cbe$d0bfcd20$723f6760$@bluefrog.com>
References: <49625626.909925.1642545570065.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <49625626.909925.1642545570065@mail.yahoo.com>
 <006601d80cbe$d0bfcd20$723f6760$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <a1325475-5b8e-0f29-409c-263267efd54f@cthompson.net>

I just ordered a gallon from Amazon - thanks for the recommendation!? A 
reviewer said it worked just as well on aluminum and bronze....

B382000331

On 1/18/2022 5:57 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
>
> Jim
>
> I use Evaporust mostly ? this is a water base solution ? it will only 
> remove iron oxide ? place in suitable plastic container and cover the 
> part with Evaporust let is sit overnight or longer. ???There are other 
> names out there but look for the non-acid type only.
>
> If it just needs a deep lube, soak with ATF.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *James 
> Armstrong via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:40 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
>
> Hello again,
>
> I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top 
> hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)
>
> on all series Tigers and Alpines.
>
> The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts 
> are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the 
> steel parts to disassemble.
>
> Any genius solutions out there?
>
> Jim Armstrong
>
> Mk 1A
>
> 382002083 LRXFE
>
> Code 86
>
> TAC # 0763
>
>
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 16:24:16 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:24:16 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
Message-ID: <1716978461.1068086.1642548262387@verizon.net>

I sent two pictures with measurements earlier.? The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is 3/8.? That 1/4" make it hit the fuel bowl screw.? I'm sure it fits the stock 2 bbl and maybe Edelbrock carbs. It just doesn't fit the standard Holley used on Tigers unless you use a spacer.?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/18/22  6:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>, owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Jim??????????????? If the exact copy does not fit and the original does ? there has to be a measurable difference between them.It would be great to understand that difference.?Ron Fraser
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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 17:16:41 2022
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 00:16:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 61
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The reproduction AC housing is 100% correct unless you want one with the two digit code following the 69024 stamped part number. Hundreds happy buyers aren't wrong.?

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:12:30 -0500
From: Chris Thompson <chris at cthompson.net>
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, 'James Armstrong'
??? <rollright at aol.com>
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

I just ordered a gallon from Amazon - thanks for the recommendation!? A 
reviewer said it worked just as well on aluminum and bronze....

B382000331

On 1/18/2022 5:57 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
>
> Jim
>
> I use Evaporust mostly ? this is a water base solution ? it will only 
> remove iron oxide ? place in suitable plastic container and cover the 
> part with Evaporust let is sit overnight or longer. ???There are other 
> names out there but look for the non-acid type only.
>
> If it just needs a deep lube, soak with ATF.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *James 
> Armstrong via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:40 PM
> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting
>
> Hello again,
>
> I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top 
> hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)
>
> on all series Tigers and Alpines.
>
> The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts 
> are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the 
> steel parts to disassemble.
>
> Any genius solutions out there?
>
> Jim Armstrong
>
> Mk 1A
>
> 382002083 LRXFE
>
> Code 86
>
> TAC # 0763
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>,
??? owain.lloyd at gmail.com
Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I sent two pictures with measurements earlier.? The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is 3/8.? That 1/4" make it hit the fuel bowl screw.? I'm sure it fits the stock 2 bbl and maybe Edelbrock carbs. It just doesn't fit the standard Holley used on Tigers unless you use a spacer.?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/18/22? 6:03 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>, owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Jim??????????????? If the exact copy does not fit and the original does ? there has to be a measurable difference between them.It would be great to understand that difference.?Ron Fraser
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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 17:19:10 2022
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 00:19:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 60
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10-9 my last I guess y'all were talking about the aluminum air filter housing Tiger scripted reproduction. You weren't talking about the one Eric is making are you?

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:01:46 -0500
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To: "'jimdamelio'" <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, "'Gary'"
??? <maliburevue at yahoo.com>,? <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
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Jim

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If the exact copy does not fit and the original does ? there has to be a measurable difference between them.

It would be great to understand that difference.

 

Ron Fraser 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of jimdamelio via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:49 PM
To: Gary <maliburevue at yahoo.com>; owain.lloyd at gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

It was a 1/2" spacer my friend bought.? He had to use a dremal tool to modify it to fit.? He got it from Jegs or Summit.? There are probably others out there that don't need modification.? He was kind of upset. He had spent $500 or so on the air cleaner. $300 to get it chromed and $400 on a new carb and the exact copy didn't fit, but my original did.

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Gary <maliburevue at yahoo.com <mailto:maliburevue at yahoo.com> > 

Date: 1/18/22 5:16 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> , jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > 

Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

How tall of a spacer do you need? Trying to minimize the overall height.

 

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 03:10:17 PM MST, jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Haven't checked that yet, but it should.? The cast aluminum Tiger air cleaner that matches the valve covers came with instructions stating it needed a 1" spacer.? That air cleaner hits the same spot on the carb as the new sheet metal repro does.

 

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From: Gary via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 1/18/22 4:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com>? 

Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

Will it fit under the hood with the spacer installed?

 

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 02:14:19 PM MST, jimdamelio via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

I got a reproduction and so did a friend.? Found out they don't fit on a Holley 1850 4 bbl without a spacer.? The bottom on the base plate isn't punched deep enough.? I compared it to my original which fits fine.

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 

Date: 1/18/22 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > 

Cc: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> >, Tiger List List <tigers at autox.teamnet <mailto:tigers at autox.teamnet> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

Repro bought a few years back.? I can?t tell the difference to be honest.? Really nicely made.

 

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 21:24 jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net <mailto:jimdamelio at verizon.net> > ha scritto:

Looks great.? Is that an original or one of the reproductions?

 

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From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Date: 1/18/22 3:01 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcast.net> > 

Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color 

 

Thanks all.? 

 

Maybe not perfectly original but it?s turned out looking nice.

 







 

 

Il giorno mar 18 gen 2022 alle 01:33 GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad at comcast.net <mailto:garywinblad at comcastnet> > ha scritto:












 



I think the hammertone was only on the outside.. hope so, when it starts peeling its going 





 



into the engine..? or course I guess it would just mix with the brake fluid from the blown 





 



servo, LOL.. 





 



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On 01/17/2022 7:09 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote: 

 







 







 

 

Do both sides of each plate have the same hammer tone finish?

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

 

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> > 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:13 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ix.netcom.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

 

 

 

 

Alan: Yours looks very much like mine, but your paint is in better condition than mine.

 

I also shot my photos in natural, non-glaring lighting conditions.

 

(I shared three photos in an earlier Email today.)

 

The more I look at my Air Cleaner in outside, cloudy light, and then at your photos, the more I could be easily convinced it is Hammertone.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Don Antilla

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Reply-To: Allan Ballard <aballard at ix.netcom.com <mailto:aballard at ixnetcom.com> >
Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1:49 PM
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Cc: Tiger List List <tigers at Autox.Team.Net <mailto:tigers at Autox.Team.Net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here a few pictures of the bottom piece of one of my air cleaner housings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This housing came off a Mk1 Tiger and went on a shelf exposed to the elements where

 

 

 

It sat for years - until I bought it at a ?yard sale? for 60 bucks, along with other Tiger parts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the paint is original - what?s left of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The paint appears to be alligatoring and falling off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The pictures were taken with a DSLR camera using natural light from a window to the right 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is no ?hue? from an incandescent or florescent bulb, or any light bulb..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps someone can tell if the finish was hammertone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The color must be the factory color as toned by the years and weather.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Allan Ballard

 

 

 

Mk1a Tiger

 

 

 

Series I Alpine(V6, T5)

 

 

 

-Atlanta

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

 

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Interesting ? can you send a picture?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Dobrowski via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:26 AM
To: owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autoxteam.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner color

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interestingly, my air cleaner housing which is in rough shape but appears to have original paint still on it definitely is NOT Hammerstein type of paint. It is a slightly? blueish grey closer to the convertible top frame but slightly? bluer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Jan 17, 2022 6:15 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers < <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all,? happy new year.

 

 

 

 

 

Does anyone have a paint code for the grey on the air cleaner housing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 17:32:24 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:32:24 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 61
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Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  7:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 61 The reproduction AC housing is 100% correct unless you want one with the two digit code following the 69024 stamped part number. Hundreds happy buyers aren't wrong.?Sent from the all new AOL app for Android       Send Tigers mailing list submissions to??? tigers at autox.team.netTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigersor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to??? tigers-request at autox.team.netYou can reach the person managing the list at??? tigers-owner at autox.team.netWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."Today's Topics:?  1. Re: Conv. top hinge derusting (Chris Thompson)?  2. Re: Air cleaner color (jimdamelio)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:12:30 -0500From: Chris Thompson <chris at cthompson.net>To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, 'James Armstrong'??? <rollright at aol.com>Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.NetSubject: Re: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derustingMessage-ID: <a1325475-5b8e-0f29-409c-263267efd54f at cthompson.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"I just ordered a gallon from Amazon - thanks for the recommendation!? A reviewer said it worked just as well on aluminum and bronze...B382000331On 1/18/2022 5:57 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:>> Jim>> I use Evaporust mostly ? this is a water base solution ? it will only > remove iron oxide ? place in suitable plastic container and cover the > part with Evaporust let is sit overnight or longer. ???There are other > names out there but look for the non-acid type only.>> If it just needs a deep lube, soak with ATF.>> Ron Fraser>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *James > Armstrong via Tigers> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:40 PM> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net> *Subject:* [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting>> Hello again,>> I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top > hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)>> on all series Tigers and Alpines.>> The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts > are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the > steel parts to disassemble.>> Any genius solutions out there?>> Jim Armstrong>> Mk 1A>> 382002083 LRXFE>> Code 86>> TAC # 0763>>> _______________________________________________>> tigers at autox.team.net>> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers  http://autox.team.net/archive>> Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chris at cthompson.net>>-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20220118/f7fd4371/attachment-0001.htm>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:24:16 -0500From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>,??? owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc: tigers at Autox.Team.NetSubject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner colorMessage-ID: <1716978461.1068086.1642548262387 at verizonnet>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"I sent two pictures with measurements earlier.? The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is 3/8.? That 1/4" make it hit the fuel bowl screw.? I'm sure it fits the stock 2 bbl and maybe Edelbrock carbs. It just doesn't fit the standard Holley used on Tigers unless you use a spacer.?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/18/22? 6:03 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>, owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Jim??????????????? 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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 17:42:22 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:42:22 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 61
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The pictures shows the difference in the reproduction verse the original.? The pictures show a 1/4" difference in depth.? I know of two examples.? Maybe there was a change in tooling and the first 100's fit Holley carbs, but these two don't.? ?The cast one doesn't fit, but stated it needed a spacer.? I know because I bought ? 45 when they came out.? I'm sure Eric's will need a spacer too.??Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> Date: 1/18/22  7:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 61 The reproduction AC housing is 100% correct unless you want one with the two digit code following the 69024 stamped part number. Hundreds happy buyers aren't wrong.?Sent from the all new AOL app for Android       Send Tigers mailing list submissions to??? tigers at autox.team.netTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigersor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to??? tigers-request at autox.team.netYou can reach the person managing the list at??? tigers-owner at autox.team.netWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."Today's Topics:?  1. Re: Conv. top hinge derusting (Chris Thompson)?  2. Re: Air cleaner color (jimdamelio)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:12:30 -0500From: Chris Thompson <chris at cthompson.net>To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, 'James Armstrong'??? <rollright at aol.com>Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.NetSubject: Re: [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derustingMessage-ID: <a1325475-5b8e-0f29-409c-263267efd54f at cthompson.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"I just ordered a gallon from Amazon - thanks for the recommendation!? A reviewer said it worked just as well on aluminum and bronze...B382000331On 1/18/2022 5:57 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:>> Jim>> I use Evaporust mostly ? this is a water base solution ? it will only > remove iron oxide ? place in suitable plastic container and cover the > part with Evaporust let is sit overnight or longer. ???There are other > names out there but look for the non-acid type only.>> If it just needs a deep lube, soak with ATF.>> Ron Fraser>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *James > Armstrong via Tigers> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:40 PM> *To:* tigers at autox.team.net> *Subject:* [Tigers] Conv. top hinge derusting>> Hello again,>> I'm looking for advise on a derusting agent I can plunge the Conv. top > hinge (sits below the chrome B-post cap)>> on all series Tigers and Alpines.>> The body of the hinge is either brass or bronze and the moving parts > are steel. Steel is very rusty and to work on it I have to derust the > steel parts to disassemble.>> Any genius solutions out there?>> Jim Armstrong>> Mk 1A>> 382002083 LRXFE>> Code 86>> TAC # 0763>>> _______________________________________________>> tigers at autox.team.net>> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers  http://autox.team.net/archive>> Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chris at cthompson.net>>-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/tigers/attachments/20220118/f7fd4371/attachment-0001.htm>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:24:16 -0500From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>,??? owain.lloyd at gmail.comCc: tigers at Autox.Team.NetSubject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner colorMessage-ID: <1716978461.1068086.1642548262387 at verizonnet>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"I sent two pictures with measurements earlier.? The original is 5/8 deep while the repro is 3/8.? That 1/4" make it hit the fuel bowl screw.? I'm sure it fits the stock 2 bbl and maybe Edelbrock carbs. It just doesn't fit the standard Holley used on Tigers unless you use a spacer.?Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> Date: 1/18/22? 6:03 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio at verizon.net>, 'Gary' <maliburevue at yahoo.com>, owain.lloyd at gmail.com Cc: tigers at Autox.Team.Net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Air cleaner color Jim??????????????? 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From modtiger at comcast.net  Tue Jan 18 18:25:50 2022
From: modtiger at comcast.net (Tom Hall)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 17:25:50 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
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On 1/18/2022 4:42 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers wrote:
> The pictures shows the difference in the reproduction verse the 
> original.? The pictures show a 1/4" difference in depth.? I know of 
> two examples.? Maybe there was a change in tooling and the first 100's 
> fit Holley carbs, but these two don't.? ?The cast one doesn't fit, but 
> stated it needed a spacer.? I know because I bought ? 45 when they 
> came out.? I'm sure Eric's will need a spacer too.
>
Here's a drawing of the piece I made to fit the new stamped Air Cleaner 
to allow it to fit Mike Woods 4 bbl Tiger in June 2015.? I never made 
any more.


-- 
Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Court
Pleasanton, CA 94566
(925)462-3876
modtiger at comcast.net
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From mwood24020 at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 18:56:16 2022
From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 01:56:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
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Here's a picture of the spacer "in situ". Just another piece that Tom contributed to my Tiger, so grateful I had his guidance and help throughout the build! Without Tom and Rob Guerra, no way I would have ever gotten it done. :)
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hall <modtiger at comcast.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, Jan 18, 2022 5:26 pm
Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer

On 1/18/2022 4:42 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers wrote:
> The pictures shows the difference in the reproduction verse the 
> original.? The pictures show a 1/4" difference in depth.? I know of 
> two examples.? Maybe there was a change in tooling and the first 100's 
> fit Holley carbs, but these two don't.? ?The cast one doesn't fit, but 
> stated it needed a spacer.? I know because I bought ? 45 when they 
> came out.? I'm sure Eric's will need a spacer too.
>
Here's a drawing of the piece I made to fit the new stamped Air Cleaner 
to allow it to fit Mike Woods 4 bbl Tiger in June 2015.? I never made 
any more.


-- 
Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Court
Pleasanton, CA 94566
(925)462-3876
modtiger at comcast.net
http://tigerengineering.net/
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From jimdamelio at verizon.net  Tue Jan 18 19:00:21 2022
From: jimdamelio at verizon.net (jimdamelio)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 21:00:21 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
In-Reply-To: <c8eb2e13-3bf5-41cb-ef28-0da1047134b1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1848372113.676335.1642557624748@verizon.net>

Thanks Tom.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Tom Hall <modtiger at comcast.net> Date: 1/18/22  8:26 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer On 1/18/2022 4:42 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers wrote:> The pictures shows the difference in the reproduction verse the > original.? The pictures show a 1/4" difference in depth.? I know of > two examples.? Maybe there was a change in tooling and the first 100's > fit Holley carbs, but these two don't.? ?The cast one doesn't fit, but > stated it needed a spacer.? I know because I bought ? 45 when they > came out.? I'm sure Eric's will need a spacer too.>Here's a drawing of the piece I made to fit the new stamped Air Cleaner to allow it to fit Mike Woods 4 bbl Tiger in June 2015.? I never made any more.-- Tom HallModTiger Engineering LLC5712 San Luis CourtPleasanton, CA 94566(925)462-3876modtiger at comcast.nethttp://tigerengineering.net/_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimdamelio at verizon.net
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Tue Jan 18 19:02:50 2022
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:02:50 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
In-Reply-To: <804790413.940316.1642557376198@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <230548330.1167519.1642552946875@verizon.net>
 <c8eb2e13-3bf5-41cb-ef28-0da1047134b1@comcast.net>
 <804790413.940316.1642557376198@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snU0A33U+kOw4b6JRCL=O-T=ydhfiseTPvzwVVR6JwJ3BA@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

Is the spacer made from ABS ?

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 09:57, Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

>
> Here's a picture of the spacer "in situ". Just another piece that Tom
> contributed to my Tiger, so grateful I had his guidance and help
>


> throughout the build! Without Tom and Rob Guerra, no way I would have ever
> gotten it done. :)
>
> Mike
>
>

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Regards

Michael King
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From mwood24020 at aol.com  Tue Jan 18 19:05:48 2022
From: mwood24020 at aol.com (Michael Wood)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 02:05:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snU0A33U+kOw4b6JRCL=O-T=ydhfiseTPvzwVVR6JwJ3BA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <230548330.1167519.1642552946875@verizon.net>
 <c8eb2e13-3bf5-41cb-ef28-0da1047134b1@comcast.net>
 <804790413.940316.1642557376198@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAET8snU0A33U+kOw4b6JRCL=O-T=ydhfiseTPvzwVVR6JwJ3BA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1426066670.783930.1642557948988@mail.yahoo.com>

Polyethelene :)


-----Original Message-----
From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
To: Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com>
Cc: modtiger at comcast.net <modtiger at comcast.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 18, 2022 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer

Mike,
Is the spacer made from ABS ?
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 09:57, Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


Here's a picture of the spacer "in situ". Just another piece that Tom contributed to my Tiger, so grateful I had his guidance and help 
?
throughout the build! Without Tom and Rob Guerra, no way I would have ever gotten it done. :)
Mike




-- 
Regards

Michael King
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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Wed Jan 19 17:12:56 2022
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:12:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 66
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1642618802.23075.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.7.1642618802.23075.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2010105603.77573.1642637576819@mail.yahoo.com>

Ok since a mix and match quite possibly could have happened in production.? Got a H6 or other # behind the part number 69024 ?? Lots of good reasons to use a spacer , But it looks better with a 2" filter. IMHO.?

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 21:00:21 -0500
From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio at verizon.net>
To: Tom Hall <modtiger at comcast.net>, tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
Message-ID: <1848372113.676335.1642557624748 at verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks Tom.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Tom Hall <modtiger at comcast.net> Date: 1/18/22? 8:26 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer On 1/18/2022 4:42 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers wrote:> The pictures shows the difference in the reproduction verse the > original.? The pictures show a 1/4" difference in depth.? I know of > two examples.? Maybe there was a change in tooling and the first 100's > fit Holley carbs, but these two don't.? ?The cast one doesn't fit, but > stated it needed a spacer.? I know because I bought ? 45 when they > came out.? I'm sure Eric's will need a spacer too.>Here's a drawing of the piece I made to fit the new stamped Air Cleaner to allow it to fit Mike Woods 4 bbl Tiger in June 2015.? I never made any more.-- Tom HallModTiger Engineering LLC5712 San Luis CourtPleasanton, CA 94566(925)462-3876modtiger at comcast.nethttp://tigerengineering.net/_______________________________________________tigers at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:02:50 +0800
From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
To: Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com>
Cc: "modtiger at comcast.net" <modtiger at comcast.net>,
??? "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
Message-ID:
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Mike,

Is the spacer made from ABS ?

On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 09:57, Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

>
> Here's a picture of the spacer "in situ". Just another piece that Tom
> contributed to my Tiger, so grateful I had his guidance and help
>


> throughout the build! Without Tom and Rob Guerra, no way I would have ever
> gotten it done. :)
>
> Mike
>
>

-- 
Regards

Michael King
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 02:05:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com>
To: "michael.s.king at gmail.com" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: "modtiger at comcast.net" <modtiger at comcast.net>,
??? "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer
Message-ID: <1426066670.783930.1642557948988 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Polyethelene :)


-----Original Message-----
From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
To: Michael Wood <mwood24020 at aol.com>
Cc: modtiger at comcast.net <modtiger at comcast.net>; tigers at autox.team.net <tigers at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 18, 2022 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Spacer

Mike,
Is the spacer made from ABS ?
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 09:57, Michael Wood via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


Here's a picture of the spacer "in situ". Just another piece that Tom contributed to my Tiger, so grateful I had his guidance and help 
?
throughout the build! Without Tom and Rob Guerra, no way I would have ever gotten it done. :)
Mike




-- 
Regards

Michael King
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From clydemclaughlin at verizon.net  Thu Jan 20 07:40:38 2022
From: clydemclaughlin at verizon.net (clydemclaughlin at verizon.net)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:40:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] ignition diagnosis
References: <689532674.175796.1642689638149.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <689532674.175796.1642689638149@mail.yahoo.com>

I ran into a very informative article today from a post I get from "Classic Motorsports". It was titled "9 easy steps to diagnose ignition problems". ?I would encourage all to read. ?One major point is that more running issues are usually ignition issues but wrongly blamed on the carburetor. ?I was an auto tech my whole working career and can't tell you how many times I saw running issues blamed on the carburetor when that was not the case. ?I used to hear all the time"These rebuilt carbs just aren't as good as they used to be" after they replaced three of them and the problem was still the same! ?Don't you think maybe the carb wasn't the problem?? ?It's a good read and pay attention to the use of a basic test light, they are great for basic quick diagnosis of the ignition, sometime even better than a DVOM, especially if you are on the side of the road, but remember if these simple diagnosis still are inconclusive you will need a ?good ignition scope and a tech that knows how to use it ...As a side note the same post had a good article on SU carbs if you happen to have a car with one or more on it. ?
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From orr4sale at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 20 08:24:30 2022
From: orr4sale at sbcglobal.net (D or G at sbc)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] ignition diagnosis
In-Reply-To: <689532674.175796.1642689638149@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <689532674.175796.1642689638149.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <689532674.175796.1642689638149@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1503782477.55139.1642692270164@mail.yahoo.com>

 Good article, here is a link.https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/when-fire-goes-out-9-easy-steps-diagnosing-ignitio/
Want to add, I have had many rebuilt carbs be bad, first thing I do is, at idle, screw the idle adjustment screws all the way in, if the idle doesn't change, get another carb., idle circuit passages ways are hard to clean out.
David Franchi

    On Thursday, January 20, 2022, 06:49:03 AM PST, clyde mclaughlin via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I ran into a very informative article today from a post I get from "Classic Motorsports". It was titled "9 easy steps to diagnose ignition problems". ?I would encourage all to read. ?One major point is that more running issues are usually ignition issues but wrongly blamed on the carburetor. ?I was an auto tech my whole working career and can't tell you how many times I saw running issues blamed on the carburetor when that was not the case. ?I used to hear all the time"These rebuilt carbs just aren't as good as they used to be" after they replaced three of them and the problem was still the same! ?Don't you think maybe the carb wasn't the problem?? ?It's a good read and pay attention to the use of a basic test light, they are great for basic quick diagnosis of the ignition, sometime even better than a DVOM, especially if you are on the side of the road, but remember if these simple diagnosis still are inconclusive you will need a ?good ignition scope and a tech that knows how to use it ...As a side note the same post had a good article on SU carbs if you happen to have a car with one or more on it. ?_______________________________________________

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 12:40:50 2022
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 13:40:50 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Jacket
Message-ID: <CAKb_wfky9prHE_cKdGmbJjr5p5P-T=LhMjtZDCbWcmq0U2gANw@mail.gmail.com>

This is not exactly Tiger related, but I've always liked vintage looking
driver's jackets from the sixties.  I was poking around on Amazon one day
and found this jacket,
https://www.amazon.com/a2z-racer-Racing-Jackets-Mechanics/dp/B08Y9CQPH5/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RU5NT1O227YJ&keywords=mechanic+jacket&qid=1642966395&refinements=p_36%3A2661612011&rnid=2661611011&s=apparel&sprefix=mechanic+jacket%2Cfashion%2C86&sr=1-5
I figured I couldn't go wrong for $19.98, so I ordered one.   I think it is
pretty good for the price.  The material is a heavy, denim style material
and it has a lining.  The Tiger jacket patch from Sunbeam Specialties
matches up perfectly.
[image: Tiger jacket.jpg]

Have Fun,
Joe Brown
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 17:17:58 2022
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 08:17:58 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Jacket
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wfky9prHE_cKdGmbJjr5p5P-T=LhMjtZDCbWcmq0U2gANw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKb_wfky9prHE_cKdGmbJjr5p5P-T=LhMjtZDCbWcmq0U2gANw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snWN8cmcOnWv=d9KikZGTO5K526VuRvi3EgKzbPrA9BW0A@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

The a2z jacket was only $20??? I remember paying ober $140 for one nack in
2010!! It had a lining..  But think this style was about 90.... Have they
closed and are running stock out?



On Monday, 24 January 2022, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This is not exactly Tiger related, but I've always liked vintage looking
> driver's jackets from the sixties.  I was poking around on Amazon one day
> and found this jacket,https://www.amazon.com/a2z-racer-Racing-Jackets-
> Mechanics/dp/B08Y9CQPH5/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RU5NT1O227YJ&
> keywords=mechanic+jacket&qid=1642966395&refinements=p_36%
> 3A2661612011&rnid=2661611011&s=apparel&sprefix=mechanic+
> jacket%2Cfashion%2C86&sr=1-5
> I figured I couldn't go wrong for $19.98, so I ordered one.   I think it
> is pretty good for the price.  The material is a heavy, denim style
> material and it has a lining.  The Tiger jacket patch from Sunbeam
> Specialties matches up perfectly.
>
> Have Fun,
> Joe Brown
>


-- 
Regards

Michael King
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 18:46:45 2022
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 19:46:45 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Jacket
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snWN8cmcOnWv=d9KikZGTO5K526VuRvi3EgKzbPrA9BW0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKb_wfky9prHE_cKdGmbJjr5p5P-T=LhMjtZDCbWcmq0U2gANw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAET8snWN8cmcOnWv=d9KikZGTO5K526VuRvi3EgKzbPrA9BW0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKb_wfmHfpEwqEeL6s4nP3BiNnOHfDYMT8aveF8EzisByXzoKg@mail.gmail.com>

They might be closing everything out. I just went back to Amazon and looked
for other jackets from a2z and found a nice looking blue jacket that is
only available in the small size and there are only 3 left.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 6:17 PM michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> The a2z jacket was only $20??? I remember paying ober $140 for one nack in
> 2010!! It had a lining..  But think this style was about 90.... Have they
> closed and are running stock out?
>
>
>
> On Monday, 24 January 2022, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This is not exactly Tiger related, but I've always liked vintage looking
>> driver's jackets from the sixties.  I was poking around on Amazon one day
>> and found this jacket,
>> https://www.amazon.com/a2z-racer-Racing-Jackets-Mechanics/dp/B08Y9CQPH5/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RU5NT1O227YJ&keywords=mechanic+jacket&qid=1642966395&refinements=p_36%3A2661612011&rnid=2661611011&s=apparel&sprefix=mechanic+jacket%2Cfashion%2C86&sr=1-5
>> I figured I couldn't go wrong for $19.98, so I ordered one.   I think it
>> is pretty good for the price.  The material is a heavy, denim style
>> material and it has a lining.  The Tiger jacket patch from Sunbeam
>> Specialties matches up perfectly.
>>
>> Have Fun,
>> Joe Brown
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
>
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From wjtwgoodman at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 13:51:37 2022
From: wjtwgoodman at aol.com (Warren Goodman)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:51:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 70
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1643050801.28917.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1643050801.28917.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <948018219.956399.1643057497369@mail.yahoo.com>

Great jacket , the darker color is better. Should come with a can of Scotchgard for that coffee spill or road food squeeze out that's bound to happen while driving ;)

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 08:17:58 +0800
From: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Jacket
Message-ID:
??? <CAET8snWN8cmcOnWv=d9KikZGTO5K526VuRvi3EgKzbPrA9BW0A at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Joe,

The a2z jacket was only $20??? I remember paying ober $140 for one nack in
2010!! It had a lining..? But think this style was about 90.... Have they
closed and are running stock out?



On Monday, 24 January 2022, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> This is not exactly Tiger related, but I've always liked vintage looking
> driver's jackets from the sixties.? I was poking around on Amazon one day
> and found this jacket,https://www.amazon.com/a2z-racer-Racing-Jackets-
> Mechanics/dp/B08Y9CQPH5/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RU5NT1O227YJ&
> keywords=mechanic+jacket&qid=1642966395&refinements=p_36%
> 3A2661612011&rnid=2661611011&s=apparel&sprefix=mechanic+
> jacket%2Cfashion%2C86&sr=1-5
> I figured I couldn't go wrong for $19.98, so I ordered one.? I think it
> is pretty good for the price.? The material is a heavy, denim style
> material and it has a lining.? The Tiger jacket patch from Sunbeam
> Specialties matches up perfectly.
>
> Have Fun,
> Joe Brown
>


-- 
Regards

Michael King
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 19:46:45 -0600
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
To: michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Jacket
Message-ID:
??? <CAKb_wfmHfpEwqEeL6s4nP3BiNnOHfDYMT8aveF8EzisByXzoKg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

They might be closing everything out. I just went back to Amazon and looked
for other jackets from a2z and found a nice looking blue jacket that is
only available in the small size and there are only 3 left.

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 6:17 PM michael king <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> The a2z jacket was only $20??? I remember paying ober $140 for one nack in
> 2010!! It had a lining..? But think this style was about 90.... Have they
> closed and are running stock out?
>
>
>
> On Monday, 24 January 2022, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This is not exactly Tiger related, but I've always liked vintage looking
>> driver's jackets from the sixties.? I was poking around on Amazon one day
>> and found this jacket,
>> https://www.amazon.com/a2z-racer-Racing-Jackets-Mechanics/dp/B08Y9CQPH5/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2RU5NT1O227YJ&keywords=mechanic+jacket&qid=1642966395&refinements=p_36%3A2661612011&rnid=2661611011&s=apparel&sprefix=mechanic+jacket%2Cfashion%2C86&sr=1-5
>> I figured I couldn't go wrong for $19.98, so I ordered one.? I think it
>> is pretty good for the price.? The material is a heavy, denim style
>> material and it has a lining.? The Tiger jacket patch from Sunbeam
>> Specialties matches up perfectly.
>>
>> Have Fun,
>> Joe Brown
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
>
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From rollright at aol.com  Tue Jan 25 09:59:06 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (James Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:59:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Trunk dzus fastener receiving brackets
References: <783648546.1139062.1643129946101.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <783648546.1139062.1643129946101@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all.
?There are two (2) brackets that are in the very far end corners of the truck that receive the Dzus fasteners on the Tiger trunk false floor.?There two screws per bracket that fix them to the holes in the metal work to retain them. My holes were painted over.?Question is: does anyone know the screw type and length for this application? I can run a tap through the paint?but first I need to know what screw is needed here.?Help !?Jim Armstrong
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From andrew.heaton at att.net  Tue Jan 25 10:33:37 2022
From: andrew.heaton at att.net (Andrew Heaton)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:33:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Trunk bracket screw
References: <806800056.1151017.1643132017803.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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This came from a fairly unmolested tiger 3/8?long Phillips sheet metal screw

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Jan 25 11:04:35 2022
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:04:35 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Trunk dzus fastener receiving brackets
In-Reply-To: <783648546.1139062.1643129946101@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <783648546.1139062.1643129946101.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <783648546.1139062.1643129946101@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001201d81216$043089e0$0c919da0$@bluefrog.com>

Jim 

 

The Parts List indicates this

 

5240679                Dzus bracket

9774089                Screw, #10 x ??  Bracket to rear trunk trim pad

 

I don?t see that screw # listed in Section ZY but I believe the screw is a binding head tapping screw.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: James Armstrong <rollright at aol.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:59 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Trunk dzus fastener receiving brackets

 

Hello all.

 

There are two (2) brackets that are in the very far end corners of the truck that receive the Dzus fasteners on the Tiger trunk false floor.

 

There two screws per bracket that fix them to the holes in the metal work to retain them. My holes were painted over.

 

Question is: does anyone know the screw type and length for this application? I can run a tap through the paint but first I need to know what screw is needed here.

 

Help !

 

Jim Armstrong

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From rollright at aol.com  Sat Jan 29 09:28:20 2022
From: rollright at aol.com (JAMES ARMSTRONG)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:28:20 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Battery vent hole in trunk
References: <DEF834F0-FB9C-4AB5-8F76-86FAFD173552.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DEF834F0-FB9C-4AB5-8F76-86FAFD173552@aol.com>

Hello,

In finishing my trunk, I discovered the hole where the original battery vent tube exited through the trunk floor. I called Rick at Sunbeam Specialties, and he says that He has only ever received perhaps two calls to get a plug for that hole. He doesn?t have a specific plug for that. The hole is about an inch in diameter or so. I wonder what other people have used as a plug in that location?
Jim Armstrong

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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Sat Jan 29 09:39:27 2022
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:39:27 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Battery vent hole in trunk
In-Reply-To: <DEF834F0-FB9C-4AB5-8F76-86FAFD173552@aol.com>
References: <DEF834F0-FB9C-4AB5-8F76-86FAFD173552.ref@aol.com>
 <DEF834F0-FB9C-4AB5-8F76-86FAFD173552@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CA+DpG64ACyeooBnWi5vCDqo1_AiiuTsryjN6SKcZxXnx23SPRA@mail.gmail.com>

I needed a new firewall rubber plug for the oil pressure line when I
replaced it.   Mcmaster-Carr has a great variety of plugs available, so I
just measured the hole and ordered what I needed.
Stu

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 11:29 AM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> In finishing my trunk, I discovered the hole where the original battery
> vent tube exited through the trunk floor. I called Rick at Sunbeam
> Specialties, and he says that He has only ever received perhaps two calls
> to get a plug for that hole. He doesn?t have a specific plug for that. The
> hole is about an inch in diameter or so. I wonder what other people have
> used as a plug in that location?
> Jim Armstrong
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 20:51:39 2022
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:51:39 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Year of the Tiger
Message-ID: <6BFF3DFA-2DDA-49D6-AE13-32481E63EEE3@gmail.com>

While I don?t celebrate the Chinese New Year, it sure sounds like a good year! 

From jbsyv at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 30 23:19:21 2022
From: jbsyv at yahoo.com (Jim B)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:19:21 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Year of the Tiger
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Message-ID: <68DB903F-FFAE-4791-82DF-17DD42F05AE4@yahoo.com>

Let?s hope it is a good on!

> 
> 
> While I don?t celebrate the Chinese New Year, it sure sounds like a good year! 
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