From deiland1 at att.net  Sun Mar  3 22:26:27 2024
From: deiland1 at att.net (Daniel Eiland)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 05:26:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger related
References: <853697649.4081873.1709529987020.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <853697649.4081873.1709529987020@mail.yahoo.com>

Are there knowledgeable Dodge people on the list in the Detroit area? If so, could you contact me off list.
Thanks,Dan Eiland1974 JH-15069?Ex Tiger ownerdeiland1 at att.net
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From deiland1 at att.net  Mon Mar  4 09:48:59 2024
From: deiland1 at att.net (Daniel Eiland)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:48:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>

I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I get back on please.
TIA,Dan Eiland?

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From tym2 at comcast.net  Mon Mar  4 11:11:28 2024
From: tym2 at comcast.net (Dr. T. Y. McDowell)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:11:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>

Hi Dan,
 
I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
I guess there's very few of us left!
 
TYM

> On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I get back on please.
>  
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland 
> 
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature&af_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap
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From chris at cthompson.net  Mon Mar  4 11:55:37 2024
From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 18:55:37 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <PH7PR16MB50660CC6B0E29F323FAC1DFCB7232@PH7PR16MB5066.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

I think a lot of folks have moved over to social media groups.

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dr. T. Y. McDowell
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 1:11 PM
To: Daniel Eiland <deiland1 at att.net>; Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Hi Dan,

I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
I guess there's very few of us left!

TYM
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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 12:32:44 2024
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:32:44 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CANE47iSMEH1aKGwfvKkscjc+PVf_bYOQhC12k0to6X4FjptwMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Shame indeed.

On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 20:04, Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
> I guess there's very few of us left!
>
> TYM
>
> On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm
> still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my
> posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I
> get back on please.
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature&af_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Mar  4 14:07:04 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 14:07:04 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a485c71d-f7f9-4e4f-846f-d83addfe29cb@bradakis.com>

Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent 
to the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you 
are still on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.

mjb.


From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 15:36:57 2024
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:36:57 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAKb_wfn03LRy0HxS_v53sVZb8iRH6vPM4ELM8g5tbkSLLbTp4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on Facebook?  I
really, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of the action is there
now I'll try to figure out how to get on there without getting all of the
other garbage.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:17?PM Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
> I guess there's very few of us left!
>
> TYM
>
> On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm
> still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my
> posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I
> get back on please.
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature&af_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap>
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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 15:42:47 2024
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:42:47 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] In Car Communications
Message-ID: <CAKb_wf=dMhB_us-gyPTsOKqxksSdRAoRRcukY1iTPD7a9aV7CA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a (maybe) unique situation in that I am deaf in my right ear and
can't hear my wife over the roar of the Tiger.  Some of you would point out
that it is not really a problem but I depend on her for navigation.  I've
seen some really expensive in-car intercom systems for rally cars but I
would like to find something more affordable.

Has anybody seen a product that would be something like a bluetooth
headphone/mic that would pair up with another headphone/mic?

I'm open to ideas.

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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From tym2 at comcast.net  Mon Mar  4 15:57:47 2024
From: tym2 at comcast.net (Dr. T. Y. McDowell)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:57:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger List
Message-ID: <1425786905.72947.1709593067522@connect.xfinity.com>

Winter is a problem.  I live in western Massachusetts.  Yesterday it reached 62 degrees!  I celebrated by going out, taking the cover off Tigger and firing her up!  The blood is flowing!
It's only the beginning of March, but I can't wait!
 
Tym McDowell
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From gharlowe at comcast.net  Mon Mar  4 17:02:35 2024
From: gharlowe at comcast.net (gharlowe at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:02:35 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder
In-Reply-To: <a485c71d-f7f9-4e4f-846f-d83addfe29cb@bradakis.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a485c71d-f7f9-4e4f-846f-d83addfe29cb@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>



Tiger Team -

The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a
question to this valuable community.

My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II
clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder
uncomfortably during clutch operation.  I'm able to mitigate the shudder
with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the
clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there.
The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.  

A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by
irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate and
the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).  It can also
be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same irregular
slippage during rotation.  

Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the
slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take to a
shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacement?

Thanks, team!  

Cheers, 
Graham Harlowe 
B382001466




-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis via
Tigers
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:07 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent to
the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you are still
on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.

mjb.

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Mon Mar  4 17:12:16 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:12:16 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] In Car Communications
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wf=dMhB_us-gyPTsOKqxksSdRAoRRcukY1iTPD7a9aV7CA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKb_wf=dMhB_us-gyPTsOKqxksSdRAoRRcukY1iTPD7a9aV7CA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01da6e91$c9762f50$5c628df0$@bluefrog.com>

Joe

 

Motorcycle intercom system might work for you

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2024 5:43 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] In Car Communications

 

I have a (maybe) unique situation in that I am deaf in my right ear and can't hear my wife over the roar of the Tiger.  Some of you would point out that it is not really a problem but I depend on her for navigation.  I've seen some really expensive in-car intercom systems for rally cars but I would like to find something more affordable.

 

Has anybody seen a product that would be something like a bluetooth headphone/mic that would pair up with another headphone/mic?

 

I'm open to ideas.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

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From ktisdale at ix.netcom.com  Mon Mar  4 17:25:48 2024
From: ktisdale at ix.netcom.com (Ken Tisdale)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:25:48 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger List
In-Reply-To: <1425786905.72947.1709593067522@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1425786905.72947.1709593067522@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <936c8471-26a7-4255-83e0-f4f8d3f9a7c5@ix.netcom.com>

Spring is around the corner, and my CO Tiger is ready to ROAR!

Ken

On 3/4/2024 3:57 PM, Dr. T. Y. McDowell wrote:
> Winter is a problem.? I live in western Massachusetts.? Yesterday it 
> reached 62 degrees!? I celebrated by going out, taking the cover off 
> Tigger and firing her up!? The blood is flowing!
> It's only the beginning of March, but I can't wait!
> Tym McDowell
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From blance598 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 18:36:49 2024
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:36:49 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Yes still on the list
Message-ID: <CACQC2nXa3wjnbBwGXopVuLL8mQB2VGqTrq-104YV1ybvGLQhDQ@mail.gmail.com>

As a matter of fact I would like to know if anyone out there has purchased
a rug kit from Prestige rugsout of England.
Does anyone have experience dealing with them a d the quality of their
products.  A complete rug kit is $275 appropriate.
Here the same kit is over 5, but quality is always an issue.   Beau./ LANCE
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From e.coiner at cox.net  Mon Mar  4 18:47:02 2024
From: e.coiner at cox.net (Erich Coiner)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:47:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder
In-Reply-To: <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a485c71d-f7f9-4e4f-846f-d83addfe29cb@bradakis.com>
 <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2099843710.353280.1709603222087@myemail.cox.net>

First, check that motor mounts are in good shape.
Next, there are no clutch adjustments other than bleeding the system.
Also you can get that done with 2 jackstands and your spare tire jack. so no crying that you don't have a lift. I don't either.
Lastly, aside from contamination, the other source of shudder is not enough marcel in the friction disc.  Marcel is the wavy spring between the friction pads. If it gets smashed down, the disc doesnt't have enough compliance to render smooth engagement.
Good luck.
> On 03/04/2024 4:02 PM PST gharlowe at comcast.net wrote:
> 
>  
> Tiger Team -
> 
> The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a
> question to this valuable community.
> 
> My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II
> clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder
> uncomfortably during clutch operation.  I'm able to mitigate the shudder
> with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the
> clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there.
> The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.  
> 
> A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by
> irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate and
> the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).  It can also
> be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same irregular
> slippage during rotation.  
> 
> Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the
> slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take to a
> shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacement?
> 
> Thanks, team!  
> 
> Cheers, 
> Graham Harlowe 
> B382001466
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis via
> Tigers
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:07 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
> 
> Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent to
> the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you are still
> on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From blance598 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 18:49:13 2024
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:49:13 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Ignition sw
Message-ID: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I know this sounds weird but my ignition sw turns when I go to start the
car, I have to hold the sw with my left hand a d turn the key with my
right.what is going g on here.
I'm having my issues lately.  Doesn't matter how tight I turn the chrome
ring on the dash .
Beau
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 18:56:26 2024
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:56:26 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder
In-Reply-To: <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a485c71d-f7f9-4e4f-846f-d83addfe29cb@bradakis.com>
 <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z6P1zZyHTZGSiskGA9BaoUSD-4h0raaYVWxH-7i8VnN3w@mail.gmail.com>

>From what I understand, it is generally caused by burning the clutch.  This
is either from heat/friction or oil dripping on the clutch.  I don't know
how that type of clutch is adjusted and matched.  But the WORST time and
greatest risk for burning a clutch is when it is not fully off or on.  In
the slippage area.  The longer you are in the slip zone, the higher the
risk of burning.  Just one good slipped burn out can toast a clutch like
that.

And it's all surfaces that need to be checked: flywheel, clutch plate and
clutch.

Happy for people to tell me that's not all there is.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:07?PM <gharlowe at comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Tiger Team -
>
> The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a
> question to this valuable community.
>
> My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II
> clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder
> uncomfortably during clutch operation.  I'm able to mitigate the shudder
> with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the
> clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there.
> The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.
>
> A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by
> irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate
> and
> the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).  It can also
> be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same irregular
> slippage during rotation.
>
> Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the
> slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take to a
> shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacement?
>
> Thanks, team!
>
> Cheers,
> Graham Harlowe
> B382001466
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis
> via
> Tigers
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:07 PM
> To: tigers at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
>
> Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent to
> the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you are
> still
> on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.
>
> mjb.
>
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From clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 19:48:54 2024
From: clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com (Clyde Mclaughlin)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 21:48:54 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] In activity
Message-ID: <CAF6p=0DvN8A=h3+1XYLxm+irEqu8NGdYXhZwJQ1sA5xD-LTd4Q@mail.gmail.com>

I havent seen on the lately either, i have been fabing a rear disc brake
set up to work with my 13 inch minilite wheels and modified rear axle. Base
for project is Fiat caliper ?nd datson rotor.
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 20:31:48 2024
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 11:31:48 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wfn03LRy0HxS_v53sVZb8iRH6vPM4ELM8g5tbkSLLbTp4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
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I personally feel the forum's and the list are a lot more focused and
useful than FB...

FB has a much broader exposure...and you get a lot more un -researched ,
uneducated people just throwing stuff around as "fact" throw in that and
the relative lack of moderation... It's somewhat of a cluster... But sadly
is taking some of the activity from the list...

Also the list demographic is getting older and some have moved on from the
cars and lost in one way or another.





On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 7:46?am Joe Brown, <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:

Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on Facebook?  I
really, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of the action is there
now I'll try to figure out how to get on there without getting all of the
other garbage.

Thanks,
Joe Brown


______________
Regards

Michael King



> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:17?PM Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
>> I guess there's very few of us left!
>>
>> TYM
>>
>> On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <
>> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if
>> I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my
>> posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I
>> get back on please.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Dan Eiland
>>
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From ora_archy at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  4 20:37:02 2024
From: ora_archy at yahoo.com (Brian Glenn)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:37:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] In Car Communications
In-Reply-To: <001c01da6e91$c9762f50$5c628df0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CAKb_wf=dMhB_us-gyPTsOKqxksSdRAoRRcukY1iTPD7a9aV7CA@mail.gmail.com>
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You might try using Zoom or the equivalent.?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 21:35:17 2024
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 12:35:17 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Ignition sw
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snUz+tYL+iBrM=mHhMW0L0dH9J4=QKec14KTdfEi7MS51w@mail.gmail.com>

The barrell inside the switch housing can come adrift and the switch will
just turn around.

This can happen if the switch has to much current init and gets hot and
melts the parts inside and they eventually just rotate...

Did you notice the key had been getting hot to touch when you took it out
recently?

______________
Regards

Michael King

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 12:18?pm Lance Beauchamp, <blance598 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know this sounds weird but my ignition sw turns when I go to start the
> car, I have to hold the sw with my left hand a d turn the key with my
> right.what is going g on here.
> I'm having my issues lately.  Doesn't matter how tight I turn the chrome
> ring on the dash .
> Beau
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Mon Mar  4 21:57:50 2024
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 21:57:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Tigers] Ignition sw
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38713515.40725661.1709614670118.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>

This was also happening to me. The problem is that the cutout in the dash leaves not enough thickness for the ring nut to tightly hold the switch in position before the nut is bottomed out. 
I addressed the issue by making an aluminum plate that snugly fits the routered cutout in the back side of the dash, as well as having a hole for the switch with flats that match those on the switch body. So the switch is prevented from rotating by the flats on the plate rather than by how tight the nut is. 

I think I used 1/16 inch thick sheet aluminum but anything near there will work. 

Theo

> On Mar 4, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I know this sounds weird but my ignition sw turns when I go to start the  car, I have to hold the sw with my left hand a d turn the key with my right.what is going g on here. 
> I'm having my issues lately.  Doesn't matter how tight I turn the chrome ring on the dash .
> Beau

From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 23:03:26 2024
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 14:03:26 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] In activity
In-Reply-To: <CAF6p=0DvN8A=h3+1XYLxm+irEqu8NGdYXhZwJQ1sA5xD-LTd4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF6p=0DvN8A=h3+1XYLxm+irEqu8NGdYXhZwJQ1sA5xD-LTd4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snVKN0kJq7tguBmsKw2bQQ4s8vK_foaOxodaqLj5xQOrNw@mail.gmail.com>

Clyde...

The old Dale's kit used the fiat 124 or 128 rotors iirc.

Are you aware of Dan Richardson's brake kits... Full bolt on ..no messing
around and works with 13" wheels.



______________
Regards

Michael King

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 1:55?pm Clyde Mclaughlin, <clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I havent seen on the lately either, i have been fabing a rear disc brake
> set up to work with my 13 inch minilite wheels and modified rear axle. Base
> for project is Fiat caliper ?nd datson rotor.
>
>
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Mon Mar  4 23:05:08 2024
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 14:05:08 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] In activity
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snVKN0kJq7tguBmsKw2bQQ4s8vK_foaOxodaqLj5xQOrNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF6p=0DvN8A=h3+1XYLxm+irEqu8NGdYXhZwJQ1sA5xD-LTd4Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAET8snVKN0kJq7tguBmsKw2bQQ4s8vK_foaOxodaqLj5xQOrNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snVwcgORio3_39Mz007cKncpNoo8g-ViSnNN4Deg7_RFmQ@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot the link


http://danr.mhartman.net/alpine-rear-disc-brakes
______________
Regards

Michael King

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 2:03?pm michael king, <michael.s.king at gmail.com> wrote:

> Clyde...
>
> The old Dale's kit used the fiat 124 or 128 rotors iirc.
>
> Are you aware of Dan Richardson's brake kits... Full bolt on ..no messing
> around and works with 13" wheels.
>
>
>
> ______________
> Regards
>
> Michael King
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 1:55?pm Clyde Mclaughlin, <
> clydemclaughlin618 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I havent seen on the lately either, i have been fabing a rear disc brake
>> set up to work with my 13 inch minilite wheels and modified rear axle. Base
>> for project is Fiat caliper ?nd datson rotor.
>>
>>
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>>
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From srwick at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  5 00:08:03 2024
From: srwick at hotmail.com (steve wick)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 07:08:03 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <CAKb_wfn03LRy0HxS_v53sVZb8iRH6vPM4ELM8g5tbkSLLbTp4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
 <CAKb_wfn03LRy0HxS_v53sVZb8iRH6vPM4ELM8g5tbkSLLbTp4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DS7PR11MB778441D15E3DEF6FDFA6D371D8222@DS7PR11MB7784.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

I really, really hate FB, but it was the only game in town for another of my cars. I took a page from the scammers and used a fictitious name to create an account, and don't use FB for anything but that group. I selected all the don't share anything options when I set up the account and don't "friend" anyone. So far, no problems. I will say I enjoy this group more than the one I'm in on FB, even though I read more than I post. Some of those people are kind of a-holes, not particularly pleasant and kind of stuck on themselves. I stay for the info.

Steve
________________________________
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:36 PM
To: Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net>
Cc: Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on Facebook?  I really, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of the action is there now I'll try to figure out how to get on there without getting all of the other garbage.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:17?PM Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net<mailto:tym2 at comcast.net>> wrote:
Hi Dan,

I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
I guess there's very few of us left!

TYM
On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:


I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I get back on please.

TIA,
Dan Eiland

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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 03:28:49 2024
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 11:28:49 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder
In-Reply-To: <CAAjp1z6P1zZyHTZGSiskGA9BaoUSD-4h0raaYVWxH-7i8VnN3w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a485c71d-f7f9-4e4f-846f-d83addfe29cb@bradakis.com>
 <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>
 <CAAjp1z6P1zZyHTZGSiskGA9BaoUSD-4h0raaYVWxH-7i8VnN3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANE47iTEXP5ruAt4macQAQW_AsiPXO=LG4USE_v9rbD5JRpsxg@mail.gmail.com>

My guess would be a leaking rear main seal which is very common.  The
centerforce clutches take quite a beating.  Obviously anything down there
is unfortunately an engine out job anyway on a tiger so you might as well
just start there if you want to fix it.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 05:45, Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From what I understand, it is generally caused by burning the clutch.
> This is either from heat/friction or oil dripping on the clutch.  I don't
> know how that type of clutch is adjusted and matched.  But the WORST time
> and greatest risk for burning a clutch is when it is not fully off or on.
> In the slippage area.  The longer you are in the slip zone, the higher the
> risk of burning.  Just one good slipped burn out can toast a clutch like
> that.
>
> And it's all surfaces that need to be checked: flywheel, clutch plate and
> clutch.
>
> Happy for people to tell me that's not all there is.
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:07?PM <gharlowe at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Tiger Team -
>>
>> The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a
>> question to this valuable community.
>>
>> My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II
>> clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder
>> uncomfortably during clutch operation.  I'm able to mitigate the shudder
>> with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the
>> clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there.
>> The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.
>>
>> A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by
>> irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate
>> and
>> the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).  It can
>> also
>> be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same
>> irregular
>> slippage during rotation.
>>
>> Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the
>> slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take to
>> a
>> shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacement?
>>
>> Thanks, team!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Graham Harlowe
>> B382001466
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis
>> via
>> Tigers
>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:07 PM
>> To: tigers at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
>>
>> Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent to
>> the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you are
>> still
>> on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
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From walmenke at bigpond.net.au  Tue Mar  5 05:20:48 2024
From: walmenke at bigpond.net.au (walmenke at bigpond.net.au)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:20:48 +1100
Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder
In-Reply-To: <00af01da6e90$6fa2d7e0$4ee887a0$@comcast.net>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi Graham

I would recommend bleeding the clutch and replacing all the fluid in it so
that it's fresh. If you haven't done this for a while the fluid could have
some moisture and air in it causing uneven travel. Is the slave cylinder
mounted outside, or is it inside the bellhousing? If its outside it may be
worth pulling apart and fitting a new seal kit to it. It's a quick job
compared to pulling everything out to replace the clutch.

Good Luck
Wally Menke
Melbourne, Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
gharlowe at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 11:03 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder



Tiger Team -

The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a
question to this valuable community.

My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II
clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder
uncomfortably during clutch operation.  I'm able to mitigate the shudder
with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the
clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there.
The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.  

A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by
irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate and
the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).  It can also
be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same irregular
slippage during rotation.  

Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the
slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take to a
shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacement?

Thanks, team!  

Cheers,
Graham Harlowe
B382001466




-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis via
Tigers
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:07 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent to
the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you are still
on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.

mjb.

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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 07:44:20 2024
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 06:44:20 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Dan's Disc Brakes
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z5ND6ejcho-0_wg6T_1cAOJ+Zc++QKs140rozKHxRk3wQ@mail.gmail.com>

I put Dan's disc brakes on my Alpine.  I absolutely love them.  They are
extremely balanced with the front.  They replaced the "self adjusting" rear
brakes that I had on there.  I don't think Tigers had those.  Also, I'm
running them with a .75" master and no servo.  Pedal effort feels perfect.
The handbrake was easy to modify the stock rod and use.

My Tiger is totally stock, with servo.  Extremely happy with those too.  I
do think that discs are overrated for road cars.

There are two things with the disc brakes that I've noted though.  First, I
was thinking of lowering my rear end a little.  But it looks to me like the
caliper will hit the arch in the frame right above the calipers if I lower
it too much.

Second, I'm getting an odd hydraulic thing.  Sometimes, after the car sits
for a few days (yes, I'm driving it a lot these days) when I first go to
drive it, the pedal has 1" of extra travel.  There is no loss of fluid.  As
soon as I do that first push, it is fine.  My sense is that a puck is held
back and has to reposition.  This wasn't happening before the discs.  So I
believe it is not the front calipers.  The calipers are the two piece
Saturn calipers where there is one puck.  I'd welcome any thoughts.
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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 09:49:49 2024
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 08:49:49 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Ignition sw
In-Reply-To: <38713515.40725661.1709614670118.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
References: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <38713515.40725661.1709614670118.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
Message-ID: <CADoP9Ffn4swqTVvLT2XVzKVyedRON+7bVwAUr3i7D6k-z1kQ8A@mail.gmail.com>

Theo is shaking loose some of my old brain cells.
I had the rotating switch problem too.  I asked Paul Reisentz about it, he
told me about the stock square washer and gave me one.
When I went to put it in, I found I already had one.  The routered cutout
is too big, so Theo's custom part is the way to go to really
fix the problem.
Gary


On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:05?AM Theo Smit <tsmit at shaw.ca> wrote:

> This was also happening to me. The problem is that the cutout in the dash
> leaves not enough thickness for the ring nut to tightly hold the switch in
> position before the nut is bottomed out.
> I addressed the issue by making an aluminum plate that snugly fits the
> routered cutout in the back side of the dash, as well as having a hole for
> the switch with flats that match those on the switch body. So the switch is
> prevented from rotating by the flats on the plate rather than by how tight
> the nut is.
>
> I think I used 1/16 inch thick sheet aluminum but anything near there will
> work.
>
> Theo
>
> > On Mar 4, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I know this sounds weird but my ignition sw turns when I go to start
> the  car, I have to hold the sw with my left hand a d turn the key with my
> right.what is going g on here.
> > I'm having my issues lately.  Doesn't matter how tight I turn the chrome
> ring on the dash .
> > Beau
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From blance598 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  5 11:50:37 2024
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:50:37 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Ignition sw
In-Reply-To: <CADoP9Ffn4swqTVvLT2XVzKVyedRON+7bVwAUr3i7D6k-z1kQ8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nW12=fv5NcwiyrO610SJpu9pcJ5Nd29dJsRjm_VcwnY2Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <38713515.40725661.1709614670118.JavaMail.zimbra@cds218.dcs.int.inet>
 <CADoP9Ffn4swqTVvLT2XVzKVyedRON+7bVwAUr3i7D6k-z1kQ8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACQC2nUdDpm2jNBMroJQ_xdE0F_eA1LyKyxHkszVz9MTB8J5UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you all, who said this site is fading away.
Great ideas, I do not see a square  washer so sounds like Theo's cure is
required.
Beau

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024, 11:49 AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> wrote:

> Theo is shaking loose some of my old brain cells.
> I had the rotating switch problem too.  I asked Paul Reisentz about it, he
> told me about the stock square washer and gave me one.
> When I went to put it in, I found I already had one.  The routered cutout
> is too big, so Theo's custom part is the way to go to really
> fix the problem.
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:05?AM Theo Smit <tsmit at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> This was also happening to me. The problem is that the cutout in the dash
>> leaves not enough thickness for the ring nut to tightly hold the switch in
>> position before the nut is bottomed out.
>> I addressed the issue by making an aluminum plate that snugly fits the
>> routered cutout in the back side of the dash, as well as having a hole for
>> the switch with flats that match those on the switch body. So the switch is
>> prevented from rotating by the flats on the plate rather than by how tight
>> the nut is.
>>
>> I think I used 1/16 inch thick sheet aluminum but anything near there
>> will work.
>>
>> Theo
>>
>> > On Mar 4, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Lance Beauchamp <blance598 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?
>> > I know this sounds weird but my ignition sw turns when I go to start
>> the  car, I have to hold the sw with my left hand a d turn the key with my
>> right.what is going g on here.
>> > I'm having my issues lately.  Doesn't matter how tight I turn the
>> chrome ring on the dash .
>> > Beau
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
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From shutchin at netjets.com  Wed Mar  6 07:49:26 2024
From: shutchin at netjets.com (Scott Hutchinson)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:49:26 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?
In-Reply-To: <DS7PR11MB778441D15E3DEF6FDFA6D371D8222@DS7PR11MB7784.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1768155413.4308643.1709570939122@mail.yahoo.com>
 <61659201.58410.1709575888764@connect.xfinity.com>
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Message-ID: <A8D6561B-E95D-4BB2-A8D7-7066270214A2@netjets.com>

Mine did that when the throw out bearing went bad. Might as well replace the clutch, etc while you?re in there

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2024, at 6:26?AM, steve wick via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I really, really hate FB, but it was the only game in town for another of my cars. I took a page from the scammers and used a fictitious name to create an account, and don't use FB for anything but that group. I selected all the don't share

I really, really hate FB, but it was the only game in town for another of my cars. I took a page from the scammers and used a fictitious name to create an account, and don't use FB for anything but that group. I selected all the don't share anything options when I set up the account and don't "friend" anyone. So far, no problems. I will say I enjoy this group more than the one I'm in on FB, even though I read more than I post. Some of those people are kind of a-holes, not particularly pleasant and kind of stuck on themselves. I stay for the info.

Steve
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:36 PM
To: Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net>
Cc: Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on Facebook?  I really, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of the action is there now I'll try to figure out how to get on there without getting all of the other garbage.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:17?PM Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2 at comcast.net<mailto:tym2 at comcast.net>> wrote:
Hi Dan,

I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
I guess there's very few of us left!

TYM
On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net<mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:


I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I get back on please.

TIA,
Dan Eiland

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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Mar  6 10:11:04 2024
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:11:04 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Special request...from A Tiger Owner...
Message-ID: <00ca01da6fe9$46ace510$d406af30$@mayfco.com>

Gentlemen, 

I am seeking a special manifold for my Tiger. It is a stock Ford Mustang HO
intake manifold.  The what  follows:

Years 1883, 1984, and 1985

Mustang 5.0L HO

Aluminum 4 BBL intake and needs the special carb spacer (maybe) 

Casting number RF-E3ZE-9425-FC

 

I am seeking this to place on my box stock Tiger that I obtained in January
1967.  I want this manifold so I can  polish it up and if necessary ported a
bit (but not likely as the heads are stock as well, in port size). I want It
because I am tired of fiddling with a Ford or Holley or Edelbrock carb: I
will find a used 4bbl electronic fuel injection unit somewhere to put on it
.  This is more about the bling aspect, not performance, however, so it
needs to be in great shape and at a price that won't off balance   the
national  balance of payments in America. Or if all yall can find such a
critter, can you find out what is being asked for it, and the shipping cost
to 89048 zip code.   Hopefully one of you has one just laying on the garage
floor gathering dust and being tripped over.  I have found some, but, yikes
for some reason they are ballisticaly high in price.  

 

Oh, and everything that bolts to the manifold is appreciated as well. I have
no idea whatg I might run into trying to get such a thing running well. 

 

Interested in what you may have or know of for sale. 

 

Drmayf

(Lawrence Mayfield- Pahrump, NV)

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From banana111 at msn.com  Wed Mar  6 16:49:44 2024
From: banana111 at msn.com (Brent Edinger)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:49:44 +0000
Subject: [Tigers] Mustang HO manifold
Message-ID: <CYXPR84MB3455FDA8FF6306DD1A907223F7212@CYXPR84MB3455.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hey Larry, I don't have a manifold but here's what I have figured out on my tiger. If I don't turn off the fuel pump and let it run dry when I put it away
then the crappy gas we have to run gums up the carb and I end up taking it apart to blow out the jets and bleeds. Since I started running it dry I have not had any trouble with my Tiger running a autolite 4100 (which was the worse at plugging up) or my mustang running dual quad carters. I have seen guys struggle with these 4bbl injection units as well with software problems and again crappy gas sitting in them. I try to help these guys but toruble shooting is also a different animal. I always tell them that if this was a carb I could have you up and running in ten minutes.


Just my 2 cents

Brent




Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:11:04 -0800
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Special request...from A Tiger Owner...
Message-ID: <00ca01da6fe9$46ace510$d406af30$@mayfco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Gentlemen,

I am seeking a special manifold for my Tiger. It is a stock Ford Mustang HO
intake manifold.  The what  follows:

Years 1883, 1984, and 1985

Mustang 5.0L HO

Aluminum 4 BBL intake and needs the special carb spacer (maybe)

Casting number RF-E3ZE-9425-FC



I am seeking this to place on my box stock Tiger that I obtained in January
1967.  I want this manifold so I can  polish it up and if necessary ported a
bit (but not likely as the heads are stock as well, in port size). I want It
because I am tired of fiddling with a Ford or Holley or Edelbrock carb: I
will find a used 4bbl electronic fuel injection unit somewhere to put on it
.  This is more about the bling aspect, not performance, however, so it
needs to be in great shape and at a price that won't off balance   the
national  balance of payments in America. Or if all yall can find such a
critter, can you find out what is being asked for it, and the shipping cost
to 89048 zip code.   Hopefully one of you has one just laying on the garage
floor gathering dust and being tripped over.  I have found some, but, yikes
for some reason they are ballisticaly high in price.



Oh, and everything that bolts to the manifold is appreciated as well. I have
no idea whatg I might run into trying to get such a thing running well.



Interested in what you may have or know of for sale.



Drmayf

(Lawrence Mayfield- Pahrump, NV)
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From 65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net  Wed Mar  6 17:27:24 2024
From: 65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net (65 Sunbeam Tiger)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 16:27:24 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
Message-ID: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>

Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood
steering wheels?  There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did this, but
I lost his contact information long ago.   I have 2 wheels which need
restoration.  Thanks in advance.

 

Doug Babcock

Sr TAC inspector

4 Tigers

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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Wed Mar  6 19:10:08 2024
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:10:08 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
References: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
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Think it was Ken Corbin?

There are some great step by step guides on the TEAE newsletters and also
online ... Depending how bad it is.. it's likely you can get a great result
by yourself.

You can also now straight replace the cracked and warped hubs with a delrin
one from Eric G.

______________
Regards

Michael King

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, 9:04?am 65 Sunbeam Tiger, <65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood
> steering wheels?  There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did this,
> but I lost his contact information long ago.   I have 2 wheels which need
> restoration.  Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Doug Babcock
>
> Sr TAC inspector
>
> 4 Tigers
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From spmdr at juno.com  Wed Mar  6 19:41:33 2024
From: spmdr at juno.com (DW)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 18:41:33 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Clutch/Trans work
Message-ID: <c10460a8-8717-640d-098f-abcc3e63d617@juno.com>

Just an FYI.

Clutch/ Trans work, standard 4 spd.

Back in the '90s I did quite a few Tiger clutch and Trans rebuilds

WITH the engine in place.

Biggest trick is having the correct tools.

Getting the trans to Bellhousing bolts loose (5 bolt bell) can be a REAL 
Bitch,

without the correct wrench.

Holes in the trans tunnel are an indicator of inadequate tools.

Things that complicate the job.

-Headers

-Scatter shields

To take the trans out, you need to take the Bellhousing and trans at the 
same time.

To just do the clutch, you can rotate the trans and push it back enough.

Sometimes with headers, you need to take the flywheel/Block plate off 
before you can

drop the bellhousing/trans.

It's NOT what I call Easy work, but doable.

DW


From winbladgary at gmail.com  Wed Mar  6 19:55:38 2024
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 18:55:38 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Special request...from A Tiger Owner...
In-Reply-To: <00ca01da6fe9$46ace510$d406af30$@mayfco.com>
References: <00ca01da6fe9$46ace510$d406af30$@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <CADoP9FeEBKHhdz8rzqzK5rLrqEFk5Cs2hDexF31eEivx4xePfA@mail.gmail.com>

Mayf,
I used to have one of those, came on my stock 85 5.0L motor from my old
Alger.

Paul Reisentz told me it was a junk performer and had me buy an Edlebrock.
If its not a good performer and isn't period correct why in the world...?
That manifold has the crosshatch pattern on the runners you are going to
have to grind down first thing.
Gary W.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:28?PM Larry Mayfield via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Gentlemen,
>
> I am seeking a special manifold for my Tiger. It is a stock Ford Mustang
> HO intake manifold.  The what  follows:
>
> Years 1883, 1984, and 1985
>
> Mustang 5.0L HO
>
> *Aluminum 4 BBL intake* and needs the special carb spacer (maybe)
>
> *Casting number RF-E3ZE-9425-FC*
>
>
>
> *I am seeking this to place on my box stock Tiger that I obtained in
> January 1967.  I want this manifold so I can  polish it up and if necessary
> ported a bit (but not likely as the heads are stock as well, in port size).
> I want It because I am tired of fiddling with a Ford or Holley or Edelbrock
> carb: I will find a used 4bbl electronic fuel injection unit somewhere to
> put on it .  This is more about the bling aspect, not performance, however,
> so it needs to be in great shape and at a price that won?t off balance
>   the national  balance of payments in America. Or if all yall can find
> such a critter, can you find out what is being asked for it, and the
> shipping cost to 89048 zip code.   Hopefully one of you has one just laying
> on the garage floor gathering dust and being tripped over.  I have found
> some, but, yikes for some reason they are ballisticaly high in price.  *
>
>
>
> *Oh, and everything that bolts to the manifold is appreciated as well. I
> have no idea whatg I might run into trying to get such a thing running
> well. *
>
>
>
> *Interested in what you may have or know of for sale. *
>
>
>
> *Drmayf*
>
> *(Lawrence Mayfield- Pahrump, NV)*
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Wed Mar  6 21:33:49 2024
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 21:33:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Tigers] Special request...from A Tiger Owner...
In-Reply-To: <CADoP9FeEBKHhdz8rzqzK5rLrqEFk5Cs2hDexF31eEivx4xePfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00ca01da6fe9$46ace510$d406af30$@mayfco.com>
 <CADoP9FeEBKHhdz8rzqzK5rLrqEFk5Cs2hDexF31eEivx4xePfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <370523038.48621945.1709786029600.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca>

This one here: 
[ https://www.kijiji.ca/v-engines-and-engine-parts/grand-bend/ford-factory-aluminum-intake/1658764509 | https://www.kijiji.ca/v-engines-and-engine-parts/grand-bend/ford-factory-aluminum-intake/1658764509 ] 

At today's exchange rate, $200 Canadian is about $140 US. Might be worth it if you really want it, but shipping from Ontario is probably not super cheap. 

Theo 


From: "Gary Winblad" <winbladgary at gmail.com> 
To: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com> 
Cc: "tigers" <tigers at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 7:55:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Special request...from A Tiger Owner... 

Mayf, 
I used to have one of those, came on my stock 85 5.0L motor from my old Alger. 

Paul Reisentz told me it was a junk performer and had me buy an Edlebrock. If its not a good performer and isn't period correct why in the world...? 
That manifold has the crosshatch pattern on the runners you are going to have to grind down first thing. 
Gary W. 

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:28 PM Larry Mayfield via Tigers < [ mailto:tigers at autox.team.net | tigers at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 





Gentlemen, 

I am seeking a special manifold for my Tiger. It is a stock Ford Mustang HO intake manifold. The what follows: 

Years 1883, 1984, and 1985 

Mustang 5.0L HO 

Aluminum 4 BBL intake and needs the special carb spacer (maybe) 

Casting number RF-E3ZE-9425-FC 



I am seeking this to place on my box stock Tiger that I obtained in January 1967. I want this manifold so I can polish it up and if necessary ported a bit (but not likely as the heads are stock as well, in port size). I want It because I am tired of fiddling with a Ford or Holley or Edelbrock carb: I will find a used 4bbl electronic fuel injection unit somewhere to put on it . This is more about the bling aspect, not performance, however, so it needs to be in great shape and at a price that won?t off balance the national balance of payments in America . Or if all yall can find such a critter, can you find out what is being asked for it, and the shipping cost to 89048 zip code. Hopefully one of you has one just laying on the garage floor gathering dust and being tripped over. I have found some, but, yikes for some reason they are ballisticaly high in price. 



Oh, and everything that bolts to the manifold is appreciated as well. I have no idea whatg I might run into trying to get such a thing running well. 



Interested in what you may have or know of for sale. 



Drmayf 

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Mar  7 07:42:22 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:42:22 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Dan's Disc Brakes
In-Reply-To: <CAAjp1z5ND6ejcho-0_wg6T_1cAOJ+Zc++QKs140rozKHxRk3wQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAjp1z5ND6ejcho-0_wg6T_1cAOJ+Zc++QKs140rozKHxRk3wQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001101da709d$ac0a8d40$041fa7c0$@bluefrog.com>

Jay

 

I?m not real familiar with this brake system but it looks similar to other rear disc systems.

 

The caliper piston turns to adjust the pad position.

You adjust the pad position by cycling the hand brake lever several times and any time the brake pedal feels soft.

Not sure if you need to apply the brakes then cycle the brake lever.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jay Laifman
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2024 9:44 AM
To: Tiger's Den <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Dan's Disc Brakes

 

I put Dan's disc brakes on my Alpine.  I absolutely love them.  They are extremely balanced with the front.  They replaced the "self adjusting" rear brakes that I had on there.  I don't think Tigers had those.  Also, I'm running them with a .75" master and no servo.  Pedal effort feels perfect.  The handbrake was easy to modify the stock rod and use.

 

My Tiger is totally stock, with servo.  Extremely happy with those too.  I do think that discs are overrated for road cars.

 

There are two things with the disc brakes that I've noted though.  First, I was thinking of lowering my rear end a little.  But it looks to me like the caliper will hit the arch in the frame right above the calipers if I lower it too much.  

 

Second, I'm getting an odd hydraulic thing.  Sometimes, after the car sits for a few days (yes, I'm driving it a lot these days) when I first go to drive it, the pedal has 1" of extra travel.  There is no loss of fluid.  As soon as I do that first push, it is fine.  My sense is that a puck is held back and has to reposition.  This wasn't happening before the discs.  So I believe it is not the front calipers.  The calipers are the two piece Saturn calipers where there is one puck.  I'd welcome any thoughts.

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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Thu Mar  7 09:07:53 2024
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 08:07:53 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] British Racing Green
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z5zsNJem+BKgD=OKrwjpp=ub-95BObEPRMiF=EnmNAnuA@mail.gmail.com>

As everyone knows, there was no Rootes BRG for the Alpine or Tiger.  The
closest was "Forest Green" - which my car actually is.  My dad used to say
it was not true BRG, because in his mind BRG was from the racing Bentleys
and Jaguar C and Ds that he loved.  However, interestingly, the first
British car to win the European Grand Prix was a Sunbeam in 1912, and it
was in ?British Racing Green.?  However, it was decidedly a lighter green.
It was also the last British car to win the British Grand Prix for decades.

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From ktisdale at ix.netcom.com  Thu Mar  7 09:22:35 2024
From: ktisdale at ix.netcom.com (Ken Tisdale)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:22:35 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
References: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <26ddba22-cdec-4d15-8743-6289cbfb8c61@ix.netcom.com>

Ken Corbin passed some time ago...

Ken Tisdale

On 3/6/2024 5:27 PM, 65 Sunbeam Tiger wrote:
>
> Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood 
> steering wheels?? There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did 
> this, but I lost his contact information long ago.? ?I have 2 wheels 
> which need restoration.? Thanks in advance.
>
> Doug Babcock
>
> Sr TAC inspector
>
> 4 Tigers
>
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Mar  7 09:26:00 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 11:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <CAET8snVjuDcofzsm0R=2FAC2uu+xcX02UEBDb+QRdfKnsgifgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
 <CAET8snVjuDcofzsm0R=2FAC2uu+xcX02UEBDb+QRdfKnsgifgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001da70ac$25bd9c00$7138d400$@bluefrog.com>

Ken Corbin is the guy

 

I believe there is a video of his work somewhere.

 

Ken Corbins wood steering wheels | SAOCA Forum (sunbeamalpine.org) <https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/index.php?threads/ken-corbins-wood-steering-wheels.12216/> 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2024 9:10 PM
To: 65 Sunbeam Tiger <65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net>
Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration

 

Think it was Ken Corbin?

 

There are some great step by step guides on the TEAE newsletters and also online ... Depending how bad it is.. it's likely you can get a great result by yourself.

 

You can also now straight replace the cracked and warped hubs with a delrin one from Eric G.

 

______________
Regards

Michael King

 

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, 9:04?am 65 Sunbeam Tiger, <65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net <mailto:65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net> > wrote:

Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood steering wheels?  There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did this, but I lost his contact information long ago.   I have 2 wheels which need restoration.  Thanks in advance.

 

Doug Babcock

Sr TAC inspector

4 Tigers

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From sunbeams at sc.rr.com  Thu Mar  7 16:38:00 2024
From: sunbeams at sc.rr.com (Eric Gibeaut)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:38:00 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 17, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1709838002.30165.tigers@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1709838002.30165.tigers@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <001d01da70e8$7ed5b7f0$7c8127d0$@rr.com>

I still have a few of the steering wheel hub repair kits left.
I am not sure if we will have another batch of them made.
They are listed on eBay and the CAT forum or just send me an email.  I am
65sunbeam.  My friend does make new Tiger wood steering wheels from original
bare metal blanks. He will have a few ready to go soon.  He does not restore
old steering wheels though.
Does Ken Corbin still do steering wheels?  I have not heard lately.
Thank you
Eric 



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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 09:22:35 -0700
From: Ken Tisdale <ktisdale at ix.netcom.com>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
Message-ID: <26ddba22-cdec-4d15-8743-6289cbfb8c61 at ix.netcom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

Ken Corbin passed some time ago...

Ken Tisdale

On 3/6/2024 5:27 PM, 65 Sunbeam Tiger wrote:
>
> Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood 
> steering wheels?? There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did 
> this, but I lost his contact information long ago.? ?I have 2 wheels 
> which need restoration.? Thanks in advance.
>
> Doug Babcock
>
> Sr TAC inspector
>
> 4 Tigers
>
>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 11:26:00 -0500
From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
To: "'michael king'" <michael.s.king at gmail.com>, "'65 Sunbeam Tiger'"
	<65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net>
Cc: "'Tiger Talk List Tiger'" <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
Message-ID: <002001da70ac$25bd9c00$7138d400$@bluefrog.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Ken Corbin is the guy

 

I believe there is a video of his work somewhere.

 

Ken Corbins wood steering wheels | SAOCA Forum (sunbeamalpine.org)
<https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/index.php?threads/ken-corbins-wood-steering
-wheels.12216/> 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2024 9:10 PM
To: 65 Sunbeam Tiger <65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net>
Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration

 

Think it was Ken Corbin?

 

There are some great step by step guides on the TEAE newsletters and also
online ... Depending how bad it is.. it's likely you can get a great result
by yourself.

 

You can also now straight replace the cracked and warped hubs with a delrin
one from Eric G.

 

______________
Regards

Michael King

 

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, 9:04?am 65 Sunbeam Tiger, <65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net
<mailto:65sunbeamtiger at comcast.net> > wrote:

Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood
steering wheels?  There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did this, but
I lost his contact information long ago.   I have 2 wheels which need
restoration.  Thanks in advance.

 

Doug Babcock

Sr TAC inspector

4 Tigers

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From ktisdale at ix.netcom.com  Thu Mar  7 17:20:37 2024
From: ktisdale at ix.netcom.com (Ken Tisdale)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:20:37 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 17, Issue 18
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Ken C. has passed to Tiger Valhalla. RIP

Ken Tisdale

On 3/7/2024 4:38 PM, Eric Gibeaut via Tigers wrote:
> I still have a few of the steering wheel hub repair kits left.
> I am not sure if we will have another batch of them made.
> They are listed on eBay and the CAT forum or just send me an email.  I am
> 65sunbeam.  My friend does make new Tiger wood steering wheels from original
> bare metal blanks. He will have a few ready to go soon.  He does not restore
> old steering wheels though.
> Does Ken Corbin still do steering wheels?  I have not heard lately.
> Thank you
> Eric
>
>
>
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> Ken Corbin passed some time ago...
>
> Ken Tisdale
>
> On 3/6/2024 5:27 PM, 65 Sunbeam Tiger wrote:
>> Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood
>> steering wheels?? There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did
>> this, but I lost his contact information long ago.? ?I have 2 wheels
>> which need restoration.? Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Doug Babcock
>>
>> Sr TAC inspector
>>
>> 4 Tigers
>>
>>
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From spmdr at juno.com  Thu Mar  7 17:36:43 2024
From: spmdr at juno.com (DW)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 16:36:43 -0800
Subject: [Tigers] Request intake
Message-ID: <063f4938-516c-5f43-999b-97ab92dc429b@juno.com>

Larry,? Be careful what you wish for.

That 5.0? intake has large water passages that may be a challenge

to seal up to Tiger 260 heads.

I'm still at a loss what the OEM 5.0 intake will do that an Edelbrock 
will not.

DW


From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Fri Mar  8 09:21:39 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 11:21:39 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
References: <003401da7026$3b3c59d0$b1b50d70$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000601da7174$b4950120$1dbf0360$@bluefrog.com>

Here is the video I saw about restoring a Tiger steering wheel by Tom
Johnson.

 

https://youtu.be/ZcwkLN1SDTA

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of 65 Sunbeam Tiger
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2024 7:27 PM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Wood steering wheel restoration

 

Does anyone know who does quality work restoring original Tiger wood
steering wheels?  There used to be a gentleman in Colorado who did this, but
I lost his contact information long ago.   I have 2 wheels which need
restoration.  Thanks in advance.

 

Doug Babcock

Sr TAC inspector

4 Tigers

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From blance598 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 08:31:41 2024
From: blance598 at gmail.com (Lance Beauchamp)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:31:41 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Rug kits
Message-ID: <CACQC2nWQi3i0MVjcSXF6ROmSaq7_gfFNy_7ZJ4PMiM9nbNF8Dw@mail.gmail.com>

Are rug ,kits that say they fit all Alplnes from
1960 to 68, fit the Tiger?
I would think not, but that's why I'm asking.
Once you pay especially in a certain  color it's yours.  Lance.  Thanks
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Sat Mar  9 09:26:51 2024
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 00:26:51 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Rug kits
In-Reply-To: <CACQC2nWQi3i0MVjcSXF6ROmSaq7_gfFNy_7ZJ4PMiM9nbNF8Dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACQC2nWQi3i0MVjcSXF6ROmSaq7_gfFNy_7ZJ4PMiM9nbNF8Dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAET8snXOBhdsANFdbStfjNM6Q297rbhf9Aj3a4G8F8K7cqWMqw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm assuming you mean a full carpet kit..  rather than the "over rugs or
over mats" for front floors.

An Alpine and Tiger kit are not interchangeable as the trans tunnel and
front floor shapes are different

Also alpine kits from 59-early 63 ( series I-II) and from 63-68 (series 3-
V) should also be different...
So I wouldn't trust a supplier that doesn't know that

______________
Regards

Michael King

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, 12:17?am Lance Beauchamp via Tigers, <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Are rug ,kits that say they fit all Alplnes from
> 1960 to 68, fit the Tiger?
> I would think not, but that's why I'm asking.
> Once you pay especially in a certain  color it's yours.  Lance.  Thanks
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Mar 12 08:43:38 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:43:38 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
Message-ID: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I'm looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger
engine group has them, let's see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover
sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From owain.lloyd at gmail.com  Tue Mar 12 08:58:50 2024
From: owain.lloyd at gmail.com (Owain Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:58:50 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <CANE47iRUJKqY02P1bG8_4=KYRsRfASCRUz_LqarF8cFNg2RFkg@mail.gmail.com>

Where is the tag located?

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha
scritto:

>   example tag
>
> Original Tiger engine study
>
>
>
> I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
> important.
>
> I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every
> Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.
>
>
>
> Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
> code and the Ford engine Code number all change.
>
> I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.
>
>
>
> Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve
> cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Mar 12 09:41:34 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:41:34 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <CANE47iRUJKqY02P1bG8_4=KYRsRfASCRUz_LqarF8cFNg2RFkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
 <CANE47iRUJKqY02P1bG8_4=KYRsRfASCRUz_LqarF8cFNg2RFkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Tue Mar 12 13:31:56 2024
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:31:56 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
 <CANE47iRUJKqY02P1bG8_4=KYRsRfASCRUz_LqarF8cFNg2RFkg@mail.gmail.com>
 <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>
Message-ID: <CAGiVA4Zqc4n5pUm-g54Y8Y4UZv+v1qd6sBBFNP=6m=jxXjcgLg@mail.gmail.com>

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> My bad
>
>
>
> The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.
>
> Some are located with the coil bracket.
>
> The location varies.
>
>
>
> It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Where is the tag located?
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>   example tag
>
> Original Tiger engine study
>
>
>
> I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
> important.
>
> I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every
> Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.
>
>
>
> Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
> code and the Ford engine Code number all change.
>
> I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.
>
>
>
> Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve
> cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Mar 12 14:16:25 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 16:16:25 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <CAGiVA4Zqc4n5pUm-g54Y8Y4UZv+v1qd6sBBFNP=6m=jxXjcgLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
 <CANE47iRUJKqY02P1bG8_4=KYRsRfASCRUz_LqarF8cFNg2RFkg@mail.gmail.com>
 <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>
 <CAGiVA4Zqc4n5pUm-g54Y8Y4UZv+v1qd6sBBFNP=6m=jxXjcgLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003601da74ba$29fcbfa0$7df63ee0$@bluefrog.com>

Jeffery

 

That is correct, I have seen them there on Stock Ford Engines but not the Tiger Engines.

Tiger engines are different in many ways from a stock Ford engine.

 

I don?t know all the different locations the Ford engine tag could be attached other than somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 3:32 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: owain.lloyd at gmail.com; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

My bad

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

Ron Fraser

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > ha scritto:

  

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 12 15:08:26 2024
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:08:26 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <CAGiVA4Zqc4n5pUm-g54Y8Y4UZv+v1qd6sBBFNP=6m=jxXjcgLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
 <CANE47iRUJKqY02P1bG8_4=KYRsRfASCRUz_LqarF8cFNg2RFkg@mail.gmail.com>
 <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>
 <CAGiVA4Zqc4n5pUm-g54Y8Y4UZv+v1qd6sBBFNP=6m=jxXjcgLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A9A8A2CA-EF55-40BC-8713-9AAC0193C1ED@sbcglobal.net>

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Mar 12 15:18:05 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:18:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <A9A8A2CA-EF55-40BC-8713-9AAC0193C1ED@sbcglobal.net>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
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Donald

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Tue Mar 12 15:25:39 2024
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:25:39 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
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The Tiger temp sensor is NOT on the Ford engine!

IIRC my tag was under and intake manifold bolt in the back..  but I threw
it away in 1972 so I could be wrong!!  LOL
Gary W.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:11?PM Donald Antilla via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp
> sensor.
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery
> Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> My bad
>
>
>
> The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.
>
> Some are located with the coil bracket.
>
> The location varies.
>
>
>
> It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Where is the tag located?
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>   example tag
>
> Original Tiger engine study
>
>
>
> I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
> important.
>
> I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every
> Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.
>
>
>
> Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
> code and the Ford engine Code number all change.
>
> I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.
>
>
>
> Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve
> cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
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>
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 12 15:30:09 2024
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:30:09 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <004601da74c2$c75efee0$561cfca0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
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Message-ID: <94B809CF-178B-4891-A919-A9E4ADFC3B18@sbcglobal.net>

Thanks, Ron.

Just for general info, please see this photo of my 64 K Code Fairlane. I installed mine under the bolt as you can see. 

Not relevant to Tigers, but maybe of interest -

Regards, 

Don

 

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 5:18 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>, 'Jeffery Randall' <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Tiger List Serve' <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Donald

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Mar 12 15:53:30 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:53:30 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <94B809CF-178B-4891-A919-A9E4ADFC3B18@sbcglobal.net>
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Thanks Don

 

That is where my Ford engine tag is located on my Tiger engine.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:30 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>; 'Jeffery Randall' <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Tiger List Serve' <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Thanks, Ron.

Just for general info, please see this photo of my 64 K Code Fairlane. I installed mine under the bolt as you can see. 

Not relevant to Tigers, but maybe of interest -

Regards, 

Don

 

From: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 5:18 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> >, 'Jeffery Randall' <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Tiger List Serve' <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Donald

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Tue Mar 12 16:08:32 2024
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:08:32 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <004601da74c2$c75efee0$561cfca0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
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Ron,
I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.
[image: TagLocation.JPG]

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Donald
>
>
>
> That is correct for the stock Ford engine.
>
> The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.
>
>
>
> Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate
> bolt on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
> *To:* Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <
> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp
> sensor.
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery
> Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> My bad
>
>
>
> The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.
>
> Some are located with the coil bracket.
>
> The location varies.
>
>
>
> It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Where is the tag located?
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>   example tag
>
> Original Tiger engine study
>
>
>
> I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
> important.
>
> I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every
> Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.
>
>
>
> Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
> code and the Ford engine Code number all change.
>
> I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.
>
>
>
> Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve
> cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Mar 12 16:28:05 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:28:05 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
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 <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>
 <CAGiVA4Zqc4n5pUm-g54Y8Y4UZv+v1qd6sBBFNP=6m=jxXjcgLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <A9A8A2CA-EF55-40BC-8713-9AAC0193C1ED@sbcglobal.net>
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Message-ID: <005c01da74cc$95b79dc0$c126d940$@bluefrog.com>

Will ? thanks for the photo

 

That looks right for a Tiger engine in front of the carb, left side.

I have also seen them mounted with the coil bracket but there could be other locations.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:09 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Ron,

I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.



 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

Donald

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From jefferyrandall at gmail.com  Tue Mar 12 16:41:04 2024
From: jefferyrandall at gmail.com (Jeffery Randall)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:41:04 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
In-Reply-To: <005c01da74cc$95b79dc0$c126d940$@bluefrog.com>
References: <000401da748b$bdb89e00$3929da00$@bluefrog.com>
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I have 2or 3 Tiger intakes kicking around, I will have a look tomorrow.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:28?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Will ? thanks for the photo
>
>
>
> That looks right for a Tiger engine in front of the carb, left side.
>
> I have also seen them mounted with the coil bracket but there could be
> other locations.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:09 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Jeffery Randall <
> jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Ron,
>
> I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.
>
> [image: TagLocation.JPG]
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Donald
>
>
>
> That is correct for the stock Ford engine.
>
> The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.
>
>
>
> Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate
> bolt on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
> *To:* Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <
> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp
> sensor.
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery
> Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> My bad
>
>
>
> The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.
>
> Some are located with the coil bracket.
>
> The location varies.
>
>
>
> It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Where is the tag located?
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>   example tag
>
> Original Tiger engine study
>
>
>
> I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
> important.
>
> I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every
> Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.
>
>
>
> Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
> code and the Ford engine Code number all change.
>
> I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.
>
>
>
> Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve
> cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
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From fast427 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 12 17:16:31 2024
From: fast427 at sbcglobal.net (Donald Antilla)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 19:16:31 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
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 <001001da7493$c5280600$4f781200$@bluefrog.com>
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Will: I cropped the photo of my Fairlane for your info. Looks like my Fairlane and the Tiger are in similar locations. I realize a Fairlane location does not prove this is where Tigers had it, so this is for general info.

Don

 

From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 6:41 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>, Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>, Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

I have 2or 3 Tiger intakes kicking around, I will have a look tomorrow.

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:28?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Will ? thanks for the photo

 

That looks right for a Tiger engine in front of the carb, left side.

I have also seen them mounted with the coil bracket but there could be other locations.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:09 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Ron,

I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com

 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Donald

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha scritto:

  example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Tue Mar 12 23:09:00 2024
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 01:09:00 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
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Nice photo.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 7:16?PM Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Will: I cropped the photo of my Fairlane for your info. Looks like my
> Fairlane and the Tiger are in similar locations. I realize a Fairlane
> location does not prove this is where Tigers had it, so this is for general
> info.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> *From: *Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 6:41 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>, Don Antilla <
> fast427 at sbcglobal.net>, Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> I have 2or 3 Tiger intakes kicking around, I will have a look tomorrow.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:28?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Will ? thanks for the photo
>
>
>
> That looks right for a Tiger engine in front of the carb, left side.
>
> I have also seen them mounted with the coil bracket but there could be
> other locations.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:09 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Jeffery Randall <
> jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Ron,
>
> I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.
>
> [image: TagLocation.JPG]
>
>
>
> Will - 382001570
> Tigers at embarqmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Donald
>
>
>
> That is correct for the stock Ford engine.
>
> The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.
>
>
>
> Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate
> bolt on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
> *To:* Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <
> rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp
> sensor.
>
>
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery
> Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
> *To: *Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc: *Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> My bad
>
>
>
> The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.
>
>
>
> Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.
>
> Some are located with the coil bracket.
>
> The location varies.
>
>
>
> It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* tigers at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
>
>
>
> Where is the tag located?
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>   example tag
>
> Original Tiger engine study
>
>
>
> I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are
> important.
>
> I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every
> Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.
>
>
>
> Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date
> code and the Ford engine Code number all change.
>
> I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.
>
>
>
> Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve
> cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
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From h2otor at aol.com  Wed Mar 13 09:02:43 2024
From: h2otor at aol.com (John Watertor)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:02:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 17, Issue 31
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 I got the engine tag numbers and sent a copy to some one on the list years ago who was collecting them, from the tag on the top of the manifold.
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 19:16:31 -0400
From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>, Ron Fraser
??? <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>, Tiger List Serve
??? <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Will: I cropped the photo of my Fairlane for your info. Looks like my Fairlane and the Tiger are in similar locations. I realize a Fairlane location does not prove this is where Tigers had it, so this is for general info.

Don

 

From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 6:41 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com>, Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>, Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

I have 2or 3 Tiger intakes kicking around, I will have a look tomorrow.

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:28?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Will ? thanks for the photo

 

That looks right for a Tiger engine in front of the carb, left side.

I have also seen them mounted with the coil bracket but there could be other locations.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:09 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net>; Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Ron,

I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.

 

Will - 382001570 
Tigers at embarqmail.com

 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

Donald

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM
To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

My bad

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

Some are located with the coil bracket.

The location varies.

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

Where is the tag located?

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> ha scritto:

? example tag

Original Tiger engine study

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

Ron Fraser

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Mar 13 10:30:58 2024
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:30:58 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 17, Issue 31
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John that was me, thank you for the photo.

 

More information = more understanding.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2024 11:03 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 17, Issue 31

 

I got the engine tag numbers and sent a copy to some one on the list years ago who was collecting them, from the tag on the top of the manifold.

 

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Message: 1

Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 19:16:31 -0400

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> >

To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >, Ron Fraser

    <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >

Cc: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> >, Tiger List Serve

    <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

Message-ID: <C4E56450-048F-49C1-93E0-C61EFE163087 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:C4E56450-048F-49C1-93E0-C61EFE163087 at sbcglobal.net> >

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 

Will: I cropped the photo of my Fairlane for your info. Looks like my Fairlane and the Tiger are in similar locations. I realize a Fairlane location does not prove this is where Tigers had it, so this is for general info.

 

Don

 

 

 

From: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >

Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 6:41 PM

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >

Cc: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> >, Don Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> >, Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

 

 

I have 2or 3 Tiger intakes kicking around, I will have a look tomorrow.

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:28?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

 

Will ? thanks for the photo

 

 

 

That looks right for a Tiger engine in front of the carb, left side.

 

I have also seen them mounted with the coil bracket but there could be other locations.

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Will Seay <Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> > 

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:09 PM

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >

Cc: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> >; Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >; Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

 

 

Ron,

 

I think this is where the tag is attached to the intake manifold.

 

 

 

Will - 382001570 

Tigers at embarqmail.com <mailto:Tigers at embarqmail.com> 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:18?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

 

Donald

 

 

 

That is correct for the stock Ford engine.

 

The Tiger engine has a different temp sender location.

 

 

 

Tiger engines generally have the Ford engine tag mounted under a separate bolt on the intake manifold.

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Donald Antilla <fast427 at sbcglobal.net <mailto:fast427 at sbcglobal.net> > 

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:08 PM

To: Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >; Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >

Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

 

 

Yes, I recall Bob Mannel also saying it was installed under the Temp sensor.

 

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall at gmail.com <mailto:jefferyrandall at gmail.com> >

Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 3:45 PM

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >

Cc: Tiger List Serve <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

 

 

All the ones Ive seen are on the temp sender on the intake manifold. 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

 

My bad

 

 

 

The Ford engine tag is normally located somewhere on the intake manifold.

 

 

 

Mine was under a separate bolt in front of the carb.

 

Some are located with the coil bracket.

 

The location varies.

 

 

 

It is a small aluminum tag ? 2.5? x .7?

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

 

From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd at gmail.com <mailto:owain.lloyd at gmail.com> > 

Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 10:59 AM

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> >

Cc: tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> 

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ford engine tags

 

 

 

Where is the tag located?

 

 

 

Il giorno mar 12 mar 2024 alle 15:53 Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > ha scritto:

 

  example tag

 

Original Tiger engine study

 

 

 

I?m looking for pictures these Ford engine tags on Tiger engines, they are important.

 

I received 1 picture for the E7KL engine group which could mean every Tiger engine group has them, let?s see if we can find out.

 

 

 

Through the Tiger engine builds, the Cu. In., Change Level, Assembly date code and the Ford engine Code number all change.

 

I hope to document and understand all those changes with your help.

 

 

 

Please relate any Ford engine tag picture to the engine # on the valve cover sticker or Vin plate, pictures of all these are welcome.

 

 

 

Ron Fraser

 

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From robertdhogan at gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 13:30:51 2024
From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 15:30:51 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Used Windshields
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 13:48:08 2024
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:48:08 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Used Windshields
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If it is a factory one, and in good shape, absolutely.  As I've reported
before, the replacement ones are thinner than the original ones.  For most
reasons, that is not a problem.  But on my Alpine, it meant I could not get
the stainless surrounds to fit unless I filed them down a little.  But 25
years later, I'm glad I still have a very clear windshield compared to the
scratched, fogging factory one it replaced.  Even if my stainless is
adjusted.

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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 14:57:14 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Used Windshields
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Brand new ones from Sunbeam Specialties are $295 plus $50 shipping.

Joe

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From jbbrown1980 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 13:58:23 2024
From: jbbrown1980 at gmail.com (Joe Brown)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 14:58:23 -0500
Subject: [Tigers] Used Windshields
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Sorry.  That's $50 "crating charge" plus whatever UPS charges.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:57?PM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brand new ones from Sunbeam Specialties are $295 plus $50 shipping.
>
> Joe
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> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:46?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if a used windshield is worth $200?
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From robertdhogan at gmail.com  Thu Mar 14 15:29:45 2024
From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:29:45 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Used Windshields
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There are 3 or 4, one with a complete Ws frame, for sale in Dearborn as
seen on the FB SunbeamTiger group page (
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=7172475322788995&set=pcb.10162093660669066
)

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 3:30?PM Rob Hogan <robertdhogan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if a used windshield is worth $200?
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From robertdhogan at gmail.com  Sun Mar 17 12:26:28 2024
From: robertdhogan at gmail.com (Rob Hogan)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 14:26:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Speedmaster's Fuel Injection Kit
Message-ID: <CANcw8MjZhrF4kXuA2QTU=8HRyCNL+65cRSqeWLa=mgcgczGf7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Speedmaster emailed a notice that they're selling an 8-stack fuel injection
kit for 260/289's at $3894 which is tempting but wouldn't fit under the
Tigers cowl.

Has anyone made the cowl cutout over the rear of the manifold and found
that it weakened the rigidity of the car or regretted doing such a major
modification?
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