From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Apr  1 06:37:57 2025
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:37:57 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Dan

Not sure why you need a neutral safety switch but adding one is not unlike adding a switch to the brake pedal.

 

Make a bracket to mount the switch for the clutch pedal then run wires.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Daniel Eiland via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2025 1:47 AM
To: Jensen Cars <jensen-cars at googlegroups.com>; Tiger List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch

 

Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe how you added a clutch switch to your car?

 

I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch or a place to install one. 

 

TIA,

Dan Eiland 

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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 07:23:55 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 06:23:55 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Hi Dan,
Did you send to the wrong list?
I am pretty sure all T-5s had the capability for the neutral switch, maybe
you just need to buy one and screw it it?
In the Tiger, its easy to make a clutch switch, in a Jensen?  Just a little
"L" bracket mounted somehow above the pedal
and a universal "brake light" switch.
Good luck,
Gary Winblad


On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:41?AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Dan
>
> Not sure why you need a neutral safety switch but adding one is not unlike
> adding a switch to the brake pedal.
>
>
>
> Make a bracket to mount the switch for the clutch pedal then run wires.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Eiland via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2025 1:47 AM
> *To:* Jensen Cars <jensen-cars at googlegroups.com>; Tiger List <
> tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
>
>
>
> Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe
> how you added a clutch switch to your car?
>
>
>
> I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch
> or a place to install one.
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Dan Eiland
>
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 09:06:05 2025
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:06:05 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Sorry to admit this.  But what is a clutch switch for?

On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:00?PM Daniel Eiland via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe
> how you added a clutch switch to your car?
>
> I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch
> or a place to install one.
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Apr  1 09:12:26 2025
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 11:12:26 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Maybe a picture will help ? from Technical - neutral safety switch | The H.A.M.B. (jalopyjournal.com) <https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/neutral-safety-switch.963447/> 

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2025 9:24 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Daniel Eiland <deiland1 at att.net>; Jensen Cars <jensen-cars at googlegroups.com>; tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch

 

Hi Dan,

Did you send to the wrong list?

I am pretty sure all T-5s had the capability for the neutral switch, maybe you just need to buy one and screw it it?

In the Tiger, its easy to make a clutch switch, in a Jensen?  Just a little "L" bracket mounted somehow above the pedal

and a universal "brake light" switch.

Good luck,

Gary Winblad

 

 

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:41?AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Dan

Not sure why you need a neutral safety switch but adding one is not unlike adding a switch to the brake pedal.

 

Make a bracket to mount the switch for the clutch pedal then run wires.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Daniel Eiland via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2025 1:47 AM
To: Jensen Cars <jensen-cars at googlegroups.com <mailto:jensen-cars at googlegroups.com> >; Tiger List <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch

 

Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe how you added a clutch switch to your car?

 

I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch or a place to install one. 

 

TIA,

Dan Eiland 

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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 09:20:15 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:20:15 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Just a safety item, to make sure you don't accidentally run into something
using the starter moter.
Something us old guys never did with our old cars!  Ha ha...
New cars also use it to disconnect the cruise control in case you forget
before you shift.
Gary


On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 8:10?AM Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry to admit this.  But what is a clutch switch for?
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:00?PM Daniel Eiland via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe
>> how you added a clutch switch to your car?
>>
>> I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch
>> or a place to install one.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Dan Eiland
>>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Tue Apr  1 09:38:28 2025
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 11:38:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Jay

 

Todays vehicle all have a neutral safety switch to prevent starting engine with transmission in gear.

 

Cruise control with a standard transmission generally has a clutch pedal switch to cut cruise off when you step on the clutch pedal.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jay Laifman
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2025 11:06 AM
To: Daniel Eiland <deiland1 at att.net>
Cc: Tiger List <tigers at autox.team.net>; Jensen Cars <jensen-cars at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch

 

Sorry to admit this.  But what is a clutch switch for?

 

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Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe how you added a clutch switch to your car?

 

I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch or a place to install one. 

 

TIA,

Dan Eiland 

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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 09:39:32 2025
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:39:32 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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Ah.  I guess I'd be asking the other question. How to disable such a
switch!  Ha.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 8:20?AM Gary Winblad <winbladgary at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a safety item, to make sure you don't accidentally run into something
> using the starter moter.
> Something us old guys never did with our old cars!  Ha ha...
> New cars also use it to disconnect the cruise control in case you forget
> before you shift.
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 8:10?AM Jay Laifman <jay.laifman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry to admit this.  But what is a clutch switch for?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:00?PM Daniel Eiland via Tigers <
>> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you describe
>>> how you added a clutch switch to your car?
>>>
>>> I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety switch
>>> or a place to install one.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Dan Eiland
>>>
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From sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  1 09:44:21 2025
From: sixtysixtiger at hotmail.com (Arden Bedell)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:44:21 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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It keeps the starter from engaging if the clutch isn't disengaged first.

On 4/1/25 8:06 AM, Jay Laifman wrote:
> Sorry to admit this.? But what is a clutch switch for?
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:00?PM Daniel Eiland via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Has anyone added a clutch switch to their car? If so, could you
>     describe how you added a clutch switch to your car?
>
>     I have a Ford T5 in my car but it doesn't have the neutral safety
>     switch or a place to install one.
>
>     TIA,
>     Dan Eiland
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From tsmit at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  1 10:48:40 2025
From: tsmit at shaw.ca (Theo Smit)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 10:48:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Adding Clutch Switch
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From craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com  Wed Apr  2 12:25:59 2025
From: craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com (Craig Hames)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:25:59 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
Message-ID: <21bc0989-e731-4510-bedb-efec411d46bc@bendbroadband.com>

Hi Everyone,

Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?? 
Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

All the best,

Craig


From tym2 at comcast.net  Wed Apr  2 14:16:55 2025
From: tym2 at comcast.net (Dr. T. Y. McDowell)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:16:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
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That's exactly why I went to 15"

Tym McDowell
> On 04/02/2025 2:25 PM EDT Craig Hames via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?? 
> Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Craig
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From maliburevue at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  2 14:44:12 2025
From: maliburevue at yahoo.com (Gary)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 20:44:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
In-Reply-To: <21bc0989-e731-4510-bedb-efec411d46bc@bendbroadband.com>
References: <21bc0989-e731-4510-bedb-efec411d46bc@bendbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <766521508.1014667.1743626652508@mail.yahoo.com>

 BFGoodrichT/A Radial 205/60-13
Toyo R888RFront 205/60-13Rear 225/45-13
Federal - discontinued, limited supply
SS-595 205/60R13
NankingAR-1 (race) 205/60-13
X2 205/60-13
TomelP205/60-13


   On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 12:42:41 PM MDT, Craig Hames via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hi Everyone,

Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?? 
Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

All the best,

Craig

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From craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com  Wed Apr  2 15:19:08 2025
From: craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com (Craig Hames)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:19:08 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
In-Reply-To: <766521508.1014667.1743626652508@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Gary!? That gives me several to work with.? I'm leaning towards 
BF Goodrich right now.

On 4/2/2025 1:44 PM, Gary wrote:
> BFGoodrich
> T/A Radial 205/60-13
>
> Toyo R888R
> Front 205/60-13
> Rear 225/45-13
>
> Federal - discontinued, limited supply
> SS-595 205/60R13
>
> Nanking
> AR-1 (race) 205/60-13
> X2 205/60-13
>
> Tomel
> P205/60-13
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 12:42:41 PM MDT, Craig Hames via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?
> Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>
> All the best,
>
> Craig
>
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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 15:46:58 2025
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:46:58 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
In-Reply-To: <5550b9de-f011-46bc-aca4-1ed0af428634@bendbroadband.com>
References: <21bc0989-e731-4510-bedb-efec411d46bc@bendbroadband.com>
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I have Kumho Solus KR21 185/70 R13s on mine, and very happy.

Keep in mind that even the worst new tires today are better than the sport
tires when these cars were new.  And always remember that backing up, with
the wheel turned, with Tigers puts excess stress on the A arm pins.  They
are known to break from this, especially with wider tires - which is almost
a given for most.



On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 2:30?PM Craig Hames via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Gary!  That gives me several to work with.  I'm leaning towards BF
> Goodrich right now.
> On 4/2/2025 1:44 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> BFGoodrich
> T/A Radial 205/60-13
>
> Toyo R888R
> Front 205/60-13
> Rear 225/45-13
>
> Federal - discontinued, limited supply
> SS-595 205/60R13
>
> Nanking
> AR-1 (race) 205/60-13
> X2 205/60-13
>
> Tomel
> P205/60-13
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 12:42:41 PM MDT, Craig Hames via Tigers
> <tigers at autox.team.net> <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?
> Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>
> All the best,
>
> Craig
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 17:42:28 2025
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 19:42:28 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
Message-ID: <CA+DpG66o_cjQQbEoiuZH5hzS+Z_wZUrco3dVuaP0ktuCVMpRow@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after
rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the
system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Apr  2 19:34:21 2025
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 21:34:21 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
In-Reply-To: <CA+DpG66o_cjQQbEoiuZH5hzS+Z_wZUrco3dVuaP0ktuCVMpRow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+DpG66o_cjQQbEoiuZH5hzS+Z_wZUrco3dVuaP0ktuCVMpRow@mail.gmail.com>
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Stu

This is covered in the Workshop Manual ? Section K, pg. 12

 

I always start at the rear.   

If your system is still original you have only one bleeder at the rear so that is the longest line from the master.

 

Next longest line is front left then the shortest line from the master, the front right.

 

Longest lines to the shortest line is the order no matter the system.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2025 7:42 PM
To: Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.

 

I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked best for you?



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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 19:56:49 2025
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 09:56:49 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
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What size 13" do you want? What wheels are you running width and style?

You want a performance tyre or just tooling around to shows?


______________
Regards

Michael King

On Thu, 3 Apr 2025, 2:38?am Craig Hames via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?
> Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>
> All the best,
>
> Craig
>
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>
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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 16:09:56 2025
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 18:09:56 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
In-Reply-To: <001501dba438$87d3cc50$977b64f0$@bluefrog.com>
References: <CA+DpG66o_cjQQbEoiuZH5hzS+Z_wZUrco3dVuaP0ktuCVMpRow@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah, I know.  I was just wondering if anyone had any schemes they thought
worked better.

Stu

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 9:34?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Stu
>
> This is covered in the Workshop Manual ? Section K, pg. 12
>
>
>
> I always start at the rear.
>
> If your system is still original you have only one bleeder at the rear so
> that is the longest line from the master.
>
>
>
> Next longest line is front left then the shortest line from the master,
> the front right.
>
>
>
> Longest lines to the shortest line is the order no matter the system.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Stu
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2025 7:42 PM
> *To:* Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
>
>
>
> I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after
> rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the
> system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked
> best for you?
>
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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Thu Apr  3 17:29:09 2025
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 19:29:09 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
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Stu

Normally, I gravity bleed the brake system but your starting from scratch so you will need to pump fluid to the 4 corners.

 

Always check for leaks after you bleed the brakes.

If you changed the rear brake shoes make any needed adjustments.

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2025 6:10 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
Cc: Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.

 

Yeah, I know.  I was just wondering if anyone had any schemes they thought worked better.

 

Stu

 

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 9:34?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com <mailto:rfraser at bluefrog.com> > wrote:

Stu

This is covered in the Workshop Manual ? Section K, pg. 12

 

I always start at the rear.   

If your system is still original you have only one bleeder at the rear so that is the longest line from the master.

 

Next longest line is front left then the shortest line from the master, the front right.

 

Longest lines to the shortest line is the order no matter the system.

 

Ron Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2025 7:42 PM
To: Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.

 

I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked best for you?

 


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From sabre2tgr at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 18:26:19 2025
From: sabre2tgr at gmail.com (Stu)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:26:19 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
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When I did the clutch hydraulics a couple years back I made a pressure
bleeder.  I had a wood disc just a bit bigger than the clutch master
diameter, that already had a hole in the center.  I glued some vinyl on one
side to make a better seal, and pressed it by hand onto the top of the
reservoir.  With my compressor at just a few pounds I was able to bleed it
without aid.   I'm looking for a bigger disc...   This won't be needed for
a couple weeks.  I have the 4 wheels left to do, and I might get the rears
done this weekend but the fronts will take longer, what with Easter and the
ever growing honeydo list...

On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:29?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> Stu
>
> Normally, I gravity bleed the brake system but your starting from scratch
> so you will need to pump fluid to the 4 corners.
>
>
>
> Always check for leaks after you bleed the brakes.
>
> If you changed the rear brake shoes make any needed adjustments.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2025 6:10 PM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know.  I was just wondering if anyone had any schemes they thought
> worked better.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 9:34?PM Ron Fraser <rfraser at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Stu
>
> This is covered in the Workshop Manual ? Section K, pg. 12
>
>
>
> I always start at the rear.
>
> If your system is still original you have only one bleeder at the rear so
> that is the longest line from the master.
>
>
>
> Next longest line is front left then the shortest line from the master,
> the front right.
>
>
>
> Longest lines to the shortest line is the order no matter the system.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Stu
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2025 7:42 PM
> *To:* Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Brake bleeding.
>
>
>
> I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after
> rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the
> system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked
> best for you?
>
>
>
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From michael.s.king at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 18:58:30 2025
From: michael.s.king at gmail.com (michael king)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 08:58:30 +0800
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
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The wheels are American Racing libre wheels . Nice!

It's hard to tell what width from the photo .. could be anywhere from 5 (
less likely) to 5.5-7.. id suspect 5.5-6".

You probably want a 185/60/13.  Though you .might be ok with a 205/50/13
..  you likely want a period look..  and given the age of the tyres you
have ..probably even cheap tyres will feel grippy.

Vredisteine are a bit pricey.. but their sports classic range is period
looking and perform very well

You can get track focused semi slicks white easily in 13s .  But... They
are noisy... Don't ride as well and tend to throw stones... Falken,
nankang, Dunlop, Yokohama.

Maxxis and Achilles have some 13 that are reasonably priced

______________
Regards

Michael King

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025, 8:03?am Craig Hames, <craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com>
wrote:

> I don't drive it much.  It's garaged 8 month's a year in Central  Oregon.
> I've driven it once every 2 years for many years now....  :-(  Don't need
> special tires, but I will get good ones.  Hope to start driving it more
> since I've retired.  Here is a pic:
>
> The tire size is AR60-13 for Dunlop.  Not sure what size the AR is yet.
> Looking into it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
> On 4/2/2025 6:56 PM, michael king wrote:
>
> What size 13" do you want? What wheels are you running width and style?
>
> You want a performance tyre or just tooling around to shows?
>
>
> ______________
> Regards
>
> Michael King
>
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025, 2:38?am Craig Hames via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?
>> Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From mark44124 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 19:55:17 2025
From: mark44124 at gmail.com (Mark Rense)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:55:17 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd:  Brake bleeding.
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If you have an extra master cylinder reservoir cap, drill it for an air
fitting and make yourself a power bleeder. I fill the reservoir then apply
about 15 psi, all three bleed points can be done in about ten minutes.

Bugz



On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13?PM Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after
> rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the
> system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked
> best for you?
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From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Thu Apr  3 22:19:37 2025
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:19:37 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Brake bleeding.
In-Reply-To: <CA+8dKTudzYcbSJp5K35gOHfh4tGaVWRbg9zD2uMTPnhXokoeSw@mail.gmail.com>
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I replaced all my bleeders with speed bleeders.  Don't remember what a set
costs but it won't break the bank.  Speed bleeders look like regular
bleeders except that they contain a one-way valve.  Just crack the bleeder
and start pumping the brakes.  No need to worry about sucking air back into
the system when the pedal returns.  When depressing the pedal produces
nothing but fluid (i.e. no air), just tighten the bleeder and you're done.

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 9:55?PM Mark Rense <mark44124 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have an extra master cylinder reservoir cap, drill it for an air
> fitting and make yourself a power bleeder. I fill the reservoir then apply
> about 15 psi, all three bleed points can be done in about ten minutes.
>
> Bugz
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:13?PM Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to be bleeding my whole system soon, after
>> rebuilding everything.  From experience, what's the best order to bleed the
>> system?  Fronts or rear first?  Left or right front first?  What's worked
>> best for you?
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From twotigers at verizon.net  Fri Apr  4 00:04:58 2025
From: twotigers at verizon.net (twotigers at verizon.net)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:04:58 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?
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I had those exact same rims on my first Tiger in the early 70?s. I was able to run B60-13 tires without issues (that equates to 205-60/13 today). Kirk

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 5:59 PM
To: Craig Hames <craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com>; Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires for Tigers today?

 

The wheels are American Racing libre wheels . Nice!

 

It's hard to tell what width from the photo .. could be anywhere from 5 ( less likely) to 5.5-7. id suspect 5.5-6".

 

You probably want a 185/60/13.  Though you .might be ok with a 205/50/13 ..  you likely want a period look..  and given the age of the tyres you have ..probably even cheap tyres will feel grippy.

 

Vredisteine are a bit pricey.. but their sports classic range is period looking and perform very well 

 

You can get track focused semi slicks white easily in 13s .  But... They are noisy... Don't ride as well and tend to throw stones... Falken, nankang, Dunlop, Yokohama.

 

Maxxis and Achilles have some 13 that are reasonably priced 

 

______________
Regards

Michael King

 

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025, 8:03?am Craig Hames, <craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com <mailto:craiggolfs at bendbroadband.com> > wrote:

I don't drive it much.  It's garaged 8 month's a year in Central  Oregon.  I've driven it once every 2 years for many years now....  :-(  Don't need special tires, but I will get good ones.  Hope to start driving it more since I've retired.  Here is a pic:



The tire size is AR60-13 for Dunlop.  Not sure what size the AR is yet.  Looking into it.

Thanks,

Craig

On 4/2/2025 6:56 PM, michael king wrote:

What size 13" do you want? What wheels are you running width and style? 

 

You want a performance tyre or just tooling around to shows?

 

 

______________
Regards

Michael King

 

On Thu, 3 Apr 2025, 2:38?am Craig Hames via Tigers, <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Can someone tell me what tires are available today for our Tigers?  
Finding 13" tires seems to be an issue today.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

All the best,

Craig

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From jay.laifman at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 17:08:58 2025
From: jay.laifman at gmail.com (Jay Laifman)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Dr. T. Y. McDowell
Message-ID: <CAAjp1z7S5MV0p3Yu1ZJgdZ0x4rdjcd=tL5seRMie_ucXB8Wx1Q@mail.gmail.com>

I believe his email has been hacked.  I just got an email purportedly from
him that I was not expecting and doesn't make sense with the other postings.

Now, if it is legit, and I just don't understand it, my apologies!
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From tym2 at comcast.net  Fri Apr  4 17:12:01 2025
From: tym2 at comcast.net (Dr. T. Y. McDowell)
Date: 5 Apr 2025 00:12:01 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Dr. T. Y. McDowell (Request)
Message-ID: <20250405000827.273808B1544FA568@comcast.net>

Hi
Do you have an amazon account.

Thanks


From tym2 at comcast.net  Sat Apr  5 06:39:06 2025
From: tym2 at comcast.net (Dr. T. Y. McDowell)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 08:39:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Tigers] Dr. T. Y. McDowell (Request)
In-Reply-To: <20250405000827.273808B1544FA568@comcast.net>
References: <20250405000827.273808B1544FA568@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1799614210.192377.1743856746517@connect.xfinity.com>

I was hacked!
> On 04/04/2025 7:12 PM EDT Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi
> Do you have an amazon account.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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From deiland1 at att.net  Wed Apr  9 00:59:03 2025
From: deiland1 at att.net (Daniel Eiland)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 06:59:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger---T5 ATF Recommendations
References: <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380@mail.yahoo.com>

I need to fill my T5 transmission with new fluid. Everything I've read says to use Dexron ll or Murkor automatic transmission fluid (atf). Is there a preferred brand of fluid for a 1994-1996 Ford BW T5 transmission?
TIA,Dan Eiland?

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From rfraser at bluefrog.com  Wed Apr  9 09:51:50 2025
From: rfraser at bluefrog.com (Ron Fraser)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 11:51:50 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger---T5 ATF Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380@mail.yahoo.com>
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Dan

My 1988 Mustang T5 ? 5.6 quarts ? Motorcraft MERCON ? Ford part # XT-2-QDX

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Daniel Eiland via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2025 2:59 AM
To: Tiger List <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger---T5 ATF Recommendations

 

I need to fill my T5 transmission with new fluid. Everything I've read says to use Dexron ll or Murkor automatic transmission fluid (atf). Is there a preferred brand of fluid for a 1994-1996 Ford BW T5 transmission?

 

TIA,

Dan Eiland 

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From atwittsend at verizon.net  Wed Apr  9 10:05:56 2025
From: atwittsend at verizon.net (Tom Witt)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 09:05:56 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger---T5 ATF Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e40d851f-fb63-4770-8f97-e785c9822b89@verizon.net>

In general terms Dextron and Mercon are essentially the same. It is 
basically the copyright to the name that is the major difference. 
Dextron is purported to be backwards compatible to all previous 
Dextron's. That said the Wiki link below seems to differentiate some of 
that comparability (note the 2016 Dextron specific to GM manual 
transmissions and is NOT for Automatic cars despite the Dextron name)!? 
Being Dextron is primarily an Automatic transmission fluid running 
changes made for the Auto trans /might/ affect its use in the manual.

 ?Automobile fluids (motor oil, trans fluid, gear oil) often get close 
to a subject that could be Forum forbidden for the (at times) 
contentious rancor that can ensue. All that said I use any Dextron I 
have on hand but it is in my T-5 equipped Turbo Pinto. I wish you the 
best in trying to make an informed decision. I'm just relaying 
information not stating an opinion.

Dextron History - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEXRON



On 4/8/2025 11:59 PM, Daniel Eiland via Tigers wrote:
> I need to fill my T5 transmission with new fluid. Everything I've read 
> says to use Dexron ll or Murkor automatic transmission fluid (atf). Is 
> there a preferred brand of fluid for a 1994-1996 Ford BW T5 transmission?
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
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From winbladgary at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 14:54:45 2025
From: winbladgary at gmail.com (Gary Winblad)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:54:45 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Not Tiger---T5 ATF Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <e40d851f-fb63-4770-8f97-e785c9822b89@verizon.net>
References: <1516878262.3419386.1744181943380.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <e40d851f-fb63-4770-8f97-e785c9822b89@verizon.net>
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> All that said I use any Dextron I have on hand but it is in my T-5
equipped Turbo Pinto

Same here in my T-56 in my '99 Corvette.  The interesting thing I found is
that after many 10's of thousands of miles, the ATF does seem
to get old.  After I change it, it really does shift easier, especially
shifting into first at a stoplight.
Gary Winblad


On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 10:08?AM Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> In general terms Dextron and Mercon are essentially the same. It is
> basically the copyright to the name that is the major difference. Dextron
> is purported to be backwards compatible to all previous Dextron's. That
> said the Wiki link below seems to differentiate some of that comparability
> (note the 2016 Dextron specific to GM manual transmissions and is NOT for
> Automatic cars despite the Dextron name)!  Being Dextron is primarily an
> Automatic transmission fluid running changes made for the Auto trans
> *might* affect its use in the manual.
>
>  Automobile fluids (motor oil, trans fluid, gear oil) often get close to a
> subject that could be Forum forbidden for the (at times) contentious rancor
> that can ensue. All that said I use any Dextron I have on hand but it is in
> my T-5 equipped Turbo Pinto. I wish you the best in trying to make an
> informed decision. I'm just relaying information not stating an opinion.
>
> Dextron History - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEXRON
>
>
> On 4/8/2025 11:59 PM, Daniel Eiland via Tigers wrote:
>
> I need to fill my T5 transmission with new fluid. Everything I've read
> says to use Dexron ll or Murkor automatic transmission fluid (atf). Is
> there a preferred brand of fluid for a 1994-1996 Ford BW T5 transmission?
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
>
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature&af_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Apr 11 16:15:17 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:15:17 -0600
Subject: [Tigers] Happy Birthday!
Message-ID: <055ff019-aae3-4539-9185-9ec40daf23ee@bradakis.com>

On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain.  34 years ago, how 
time flies!  Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars. 
My, things have changed.  At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think, 
stemming from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey, 
etc lists.  And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and 
Bricklin and ... you get the idea.

While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the 
early days, there are still just over 30 lists.  About half a dozen of 
these see daily, or almost daily, traffic.  Some see hardly any use at 
all.  Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand 
messages in August, leading up to the Nationals.  I think the one and 
only year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team 
Net.  Lost track of how many stickers I sold.  Still have a few 
somewhere in my office.

As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line, 
with a 120 MHz processor.  Attached is the label for that box.  Cost me 
$2,500.  See the photo for the specs :-)    Actually, it didn't cost ME 
much money.  Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser.  Back then, 
having an internet connection at home was not cheap.  I think I raised 
like $3,000 which got us started down this trail.

Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a 
thing of the past.  When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare, 
they visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!

Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of effort. 
  Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week dealing 
with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so on. 
All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of 
Fame.  That was nice.

And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.

Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!

mjb.
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From jim at island.net  Fri Apr 11 19:57:16 2025
From: jim at island.net (Jim)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 18:57:16 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Happy Birthday!
In-Reply-To: <055ff019-aae3-4539-9185-9ec40daf23ee@bradakis.com>
References: <055ff019-aae3-4539-9185-9ec40daf23ee@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <B0D1518F-58B0-4F83-A1D1-CAF4C90CE3D8@island.net>

Thanks for ALL you?ve done over the years!!!!
The Tiger site was very helpful when I bought my Tiger!!
Sent from my ShoePhone


> On Apr 11, 2025, at 5:35?PM, Mark Bradakis via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain.  34 years ago, how time flies!  Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars. My, things have changed.  At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think, stemming from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey, etc lists.  And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and Bricklin and ... you get the idea.
> 
> While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the early days, there are still just over 30 lists.  About half a dozen of these see daily, or almost daily, traffic.  Some see hardly any use at all.  Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand messages in August, leading up to the Nationals.  I think the one and only year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team Net.  Lost track of how many stickers I sold.  Still have a few somewhere in my office.
> 
> As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line, with a 120 MHz processor.  Attached is the label for that box.  Cost me $2,500.  See the photo for the specs :-)    Actually, it didn't cost ME much money.  Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser.  Back then, having an internet connection at home was not cheap.  I think I raised like $3,000 which got us started down this trail.
> 
> Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a thing of the past.  When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare, they visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!
> 
> Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of effort.  Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week dealing with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so on. All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  That was nice.
> 
> And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.
> 
> Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!
> 
> mjb.
> <20250411_131842.jpg>
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From rspontelli at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 12 09:05:32 2025
From: rspontelli at earthlink.net (Ramon Spontelli)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 08:05:32 -0700
Subject: [Tigers] Happy Birthday! (Mark Bradakis)
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<< On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain . . . >>

Mark,

You da MAN!

I remember those days when it was just autox and british-cars.  I think I was using aol back then.  I remember sending funds to the Fat Chance Garage.  And I still have your TEAM.NET RACING stickers that went on the car trailer.

It has been a glorious ride, because of your endless efforts.

Thank you!

Ramon



From Tigers at embarqmail.com  Sat Apr 12 10:03:45 2025
From: Tigers at embarqmail.com (Will Seay)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 12:03:45 -0400
Subject: [Tigers] Happy Birthday!
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Many thanks for all your efforts over the years.  Happy BD!

Will - 382001570
Tigers at embarqmail.com


On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 9:57?PM Jim via Tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks for ALL you?ve done over the years!!!!
> The Tiger site was very helpful when I bought my Tiger!!
> Sent from my ShoePhone
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2025, at 5:35?PM, Mark Bradakis via Tigers <
> tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain.  34 years ago, how
> time flies!  Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars. My,
> things have changed.  At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think, stemming
> from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey, etc lists.
> And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and Bricklin and ... you
> get the idea.
> >
> > While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the
> early days, there are still just over 30 lists.  About half a dozen of
> these see daily, or almost daily, traffic.  Some see hardly any use at
> all.  Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand
> messages in August, leading up to the Nationals.  I think the one and only
> year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team Net.  Lost
> track of how many stickers I sold.  Still have a few somewhere in my office.
> >
> > As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line,
> with a 120 MHz processor.  Attached is the label for that box.  Cost me
> $2,500.  See the photo for the specs :-)    Actually, it didn't cost ME
> much money.  Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser.  Back then,
> having an internet connection at home was not cheap.  I think I raised like
> $3,000 which got us started down this trail.
> >
> > Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a
> thing of the past.  When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare, they
> visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!
> >
> > Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of
> effort.  Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week
> dealing with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so
> on. All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of
> Fame.  That was nice.
> >
> > And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.
> >
> > Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!
> >
> > mjb.
> > <20250411_131842.jpg>
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