From PeterAra at msn.com  Thu Oct  1 01:01:36 2020
From: PeterAra at msn.com (Peter Arakelian)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:01:36 +0000
Subject: [TR] coil recommend
Message-ID: <DM5PR06MB35649CB556315D6EEA7BE467C1300@DM5PR06MB3564.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Get an Intermotor coil.  They provided Lucas with their later model sport coil, and now sell under their own name.  Remember the original Lucas had the red ribbed connector on top that used a copper disc folded onto the end of the coil wire.  These are the later that accepted a standard coil wire.

Peter Arakelain
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Thu Oct  1 04:19:26 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 06:19:26 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
In-Reply-To: <002001d69722$475392f0$d5fab8d0$@ranteer.com>
References: <001f01d696a5$cfca9a20$6f5fce60$@gmail.com>
 <002001d69722$475392f0$d5fab8d0$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <001801d697dc$571f32b0$055d9810$@charter.net>

Here's a source of cut-off switches.

 

https://www.flamingriver.com/batterydisconnect

 

Alex Thomson

TR6

GT6

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:08 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

 

We have battery cutoff switches on all our cars.  Given the dicey electrics
on these cars I think it's a pretty important thing to do.  Pretty much
every time we walk away from the car we disconnect it.

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Will Daehler
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

 

OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For
days and days.  The result was a burned out coil and points which I was
forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard and
long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact
available for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired
correctly, there didn't seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared to be
only three positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four.  I was able
to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the key hard
to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come on.

 

It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I replaced
it with a new one.  Voila, I now have an AUX function, and can now listen to
the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition circuits.  This
replacement switch also has the feature where you have to push the key in
slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the AUX position. 

 

Faithfully submitted,

 

Will Daehler

63 TR4

Powder Blue

 

 

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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Oct  1 06:08:26 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:08:26 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
In-Reply-To: <001801d697dc$571f32b0$055d9810$@charter.net>
References: <001f01d696a5$cfca9a20$6f5fce60$@gmail.com>
 <002001d69722$475392f0$d5fab8d0$@ranteer.com>
 <001801d697dc$571f32b0$055d9810$@charter.net>
Message-ID: <00fa01d697eb$91c872f0$b55958d0$@ranteer.com>

We use the brass ones with the little green knob.  Most flaps have them

 

From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:19 AM
To: 'dave' <dave at ranteer.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

 

Here's a source of cut-off switches.

 

https://www.flamingriver.com/batterydisconnect

 

Alex Thomson

TR6

GT6

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:08 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

 

We have battery cutoff switches on all our cars.  Given the dicey electrics
on these cars I think it's a pretty important thing to do.  Pretty much
every time we walk away from the car we disconnect it.

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Will Daehler
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

 

OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For
days and days.  The result was a burned out coil and points which I was
forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard and
long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact
available for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired
correctly, there didn't seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared to be
only three positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four.  I was able
to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the key hard
to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come on.

 

It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I replaced
it with a new one.  Voila, I now have an AUX function, and can now listen to
the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition circuits.  This
replacement switch also has the feature where you have to push the key in
slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the AUX position. 

 

Faithfully submitted,

 

Will Daehler

63 TR4

Powder Blue

 

 

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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Thu Oct  1 12:01:04 2020
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:01:04 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
In-Reply-To: <00fa01d697eb$91c872f0$b55958d0$@ranteer.com>
References: <001f01d696a5$cfca9a20$6f5fce60$@gmail.com>
 <002001d69722$475392f0$d5fab8d0$@ranteer.com>
 <001801d697dc$571f32b0$055d9810$@charter.net>
 <00fa01d697eb$91c872f0$b55958d0$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <1E04B898-421F-4E1E-B742-E204FF34EDE2@comcast.net>

I know this is expensive ? but so is your Triumph.  I have used these for 10 years and have never had a problem with the battery.

MossMotors Part # 386-290   CTEX battery  test and charger.

It really works.


> On Oct 1, 2020, at 5:08 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> We use the brass ones with the little green knob.  Most flaps have them
>  
> From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:19 AM
> To: 'dave' <dave at ranteer.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
>  
> Here?s a source of cut-off switches.



Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars




From trguy75 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 12:17:04 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 14:17:04 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
In-Reply-To: <1E04B898-421F-4E1E-B742-E204FF34EDE2@comcast.net>
References: <1E04B898-421F-4E1E-B742-E204FF34EDE2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A7A4D493-86FE-466C-A9DB-0CB0F509115E@gmail.com>

$20 cheaper on amazon.  Looks like a nice unit. Jim

> On Oct 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, William Pugh <anabil007 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?I know this is expensive ? but so is your Triumph.  I have used these for 10 years and have never had a problem with the battery.
> 
> MossMotors Part # 386-290   CTEX battery  test and charger.
> 
> It really works.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2020, at 5:08 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We use the brass ones with the little green knob.  Most flaps have them
>> 
>> From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:19 AM
>> To: 'dave' <dave at ranteer.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
>> Subject: RE: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
>> 
>> Here?s a source of cut-off switches.
> 
> 
> 
> Life is too short
> to drive Boring Cars
> 
> 
> 
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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 15:31:46 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:31:46 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
In-Reply-To: <1489962119.475999.1601501467775@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <003301d69743$45b45ee0$d11d1ca0$@optonline.net>
 <1489962119.475999.1601501467775@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009001d6983a$449997d0$cdccc770$@optonline.net>

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> 
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 15:40:28 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:40:28 -0400
Subject: [TR] [6pack]  Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
In-Reply-To: <000C3538-D32D-4FD0-9F74-2D2114B7D93F@yahoo.com>
References: <003301d69743$45b45ee0$d11d1ca0$@optonline.net>
 <06b501d69747$09efc8f0$1dcf5ad0$@gmail.com>
 <000f01d6976e$86cb5e80$94621b80$@optonline.net>
 <000C3538-D32D-4FD0-9F74-2D2114B7D93F@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01d6983b$7badabc0$73090340$@optonline.net>

Richard ? 

    Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild ? we?ll see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement?  I may need to go that way.  Thanks.

Dennis  

 

From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net
Cc: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its replacement Delco number of 14.6v 

Dick 


On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> > <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> > wrote:

Actually, no they don?t have the facilities.  However, I have taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it?s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough.  I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place).

Dennis

 

From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com <mailto:trguy75 at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> ; triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Can?t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine?  Jim Henningsen

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 15:46:48 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:46:48 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
In-Reply-To: <36d2de42e6de42c09f3809fbba140a8a@chinaautogroup.com>
References: <003301d69743$45b45ee0$d11d1ca0$@optonline.net>
 <1489962119.475999.1601501467775@mail.yahoo.com>
 <009001d6983a$449997d0$cdccc770$@optonline.net>
 <36d2de42e6de42c09f3809fbba140a8a@chinaautogroup.com>
Message-ID: <00bb01d6983c$5e667140$1b3353c0$@optonline.net>

Steve ? 

    The brown/yellow wire goes into the harness near the alternator and comes out near the battery.  This is a very original car, despite its? 175,000 miles, and the wiring harness has not been knackered in the past. We have opened up the plastic casing at the battery end to check the connection in there (thanks for the tip Dave Massey) and all looks OK but will re-check). Thanks.

Dennis 

 

From: Steve Kirby <sackirby at chinaautogroup.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:41 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Is it possible that the wire running from the Alternator to the Battery has a fusible link in it that has blown?  These are sometimes added as a safety feature.  Not a fuse.  A fusible link.  It looks like a regular wire with a bulge in it at some point.  A fusible link is designed to burn through when subjected to excessive voltage.  They are not repairable, must be replaced.  Check for continuity between both ends of the charging wire.

 

Steve Kirby

President

Austin Healey Association of Southern California

Chairman

Conclave 2021

22831 Avenida Empresa

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Direct:  (949) 261-8208

Fax:  (949) 767-5949

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Skype: steve.kirby29

www. <http://www.austin-healey.org> austin-healey.org

www.conclave2021.com <http://www.conclave2021.com> 

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:32 PM
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> >; triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> ; triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> 
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 15:47:52 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:47:52 -0400
Subject: [TR] [6pack]  Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
In-Reply-To: <BN7PR07MB50893C79E4785B9D9503FFB1E1300@BN7PR07MB5089.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <003301d69743$45b45ee0$d11d1ca0$@optonline.net>
 <1489962119.475999.1601501467775@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <009001d6983a$449997d0$cdccc770$@optonline.net>
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Message-ID: <00ca01d6983c$84648c10$8d2da430$@optonline.net>

Gene - 

    Yup, we are.  IGN light comes on and then goes off. 

DEnnis 

 

From: Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:41 PM
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net;
dctr6 at optonline.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

The original alternator has to have voltage fed to it to excite the fields.
I wonder if you are getting voltage from the ignition to even get the
alternator to begin producing voltage

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/blhgte> 

 

  _____  

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of dctr6 at optonline.net
<mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  <dctr6 at optonline.net
<mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> >
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:31:46 PM
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> >;
triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
<triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> >
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
<6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 

 

Dave - 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not
getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through
the procedure in Dan Master's book 3 times and every time, it points to a
bad alternator which I had tested and it's putting out over 13 volts (maybe
not enough but more than 12). Why doesn't this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?).


Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> ;
triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown)
wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a
3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a
good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you
spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> 
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here's a synopsis - Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and
took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12
volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master's book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the
same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit - same thing,
battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters - all showed 12
volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What's wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From ptegler at verizon.net  Thu Oct  1 16:05:54 2020
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 18:05:54 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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have you tested the light bulb (ign light) itself! without it you have 
no 'sense' signal returning to the regulator.

ptegler

On 10/1/2020 5:31 PM, dctr6 at optonline.net wrote:
>
> Dave ?
>
> ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are 
> STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We 
> walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every 
> time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s 
> putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why 
> doesn?t this show up at the battery?
>
> We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 
> volts (?).
>
> Dennis
>
> *From:* DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
> *To:* dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Cc:* 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
>
> On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output 
> (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery 
> positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not 
> making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the 
> battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
> Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
>
> Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and 
> took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 
> 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator 
> and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit 
> ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? 
> all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt 
> alternators.? What?s wrong??
>
> Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct  1 17:20:24 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 23:20:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 Hmmm.... confusing.? I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.? Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?
Is the belt tight?
I'm grasping at straws.
 
Dave 

 
 
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From: dctr6 at optonline.net
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 p.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 li.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9867486452 a:link, #yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452EmailStyle26 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9867486452 .yiv9867486452MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452WordSection1 {}#yiv9867486452 Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis  ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net
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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct  1 17:47:34 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 23:47:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 
 This suggests that if you measure the resistance between the alternator output terminal and the battery positive it would read a very low resistance.? About the same as when you touch the meter leads together.? This will verify that the connection to the battery is good.? The fact that the voltage at the alternator is 12 volts means the alternator isn't producing.
What other possible fault could there be?? A bad ground?? But if the alternator wasn't grounded the light wouldn't behave properly.
It's tough troubleshooting something via this medium.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 p.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 li.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9867486452 a:link, #yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452EmailStyle26 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9867486452 .yiv9867486452MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452WordSection1 {}#yiv9867486452 Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis  ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 21:02:35 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 23:02:35 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Dave ? 

    Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has about ? inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery which we?ve not really considered.  We, too, are grasping at straws?

Thanks. 

Dennis

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Hmmm.... confusing.  I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.  Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?

 

Is the belt tight?

 

I'm grasping at straws.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> ; triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From levilevi at comcast.net  Thu Oct  1 22:06:58 2020
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 22:06:58 -0600
Subject: [TR] dashpot o ring for ZS 175 CD-2
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> On Sep 30, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
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>  
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>  
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>  
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> I need to replace the dashpot O RIngs for the above mentioned carbs. . Does anyone know the size? Are they available as a separate item?
>  
> Also, just noticed the spelling of these things can be:
> carburetor (American English) or 
> carburettor (British English)
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct  2 05:35:01 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 11:35:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 Battery.? Hadn't thought of that.? Do you have a battery charger?? You could hook that up and see what the voltage does.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?Hmmm.... confusing.? I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.? Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine? ?Is the belt tight? ?I'm grasping at straws. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
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To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money.?Dave ??-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct  2 08:59:43 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 14:59:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 What is the battery voltage with the engine off?
 
Dave 

 
 
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

#yiv9111010956 #yiv9111010956 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9111010956 #yiv9111010956 p.yiv9111010956MsoNormal, #yiv9111010956 li.yiv9111010956MsoNormal, #yiv9111010956 div.yiv9111010956MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9111010956 a:link, #yiv9111010956 span.yiv9111010956MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9111010956 span.yiv9111010956EmailStyle28 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9111010956 .yiv9111010956MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9111010956 div.yiv9111010956WordSection1 {}#yiv9111010956 Dave ? ????Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has about ? inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery which we?ve not really considered.? We, too, are grasping at straws?Thanks. Dennis ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?Hmmm.... confusing.? I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.? Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine? ?Is the belt tight? ?I'm grasping at straws. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money.?Dave ??-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net
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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 10:33:03 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 09:33:03 -0700
Subject: [TR] dashpot o ring for ZS 175 CD-2
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Thank you very much for the details.
A kind fellow Triumph gave me some.
Sujit



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> Size 2-010
> Compound: Viton
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64
>
> On Sep 30, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>
> wrote:
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> Call Joe Curto.
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> https://www.britishsuperior.com/
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> Alex Thomson
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> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net
> <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Sujit Roy
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:01 PM
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> Does anyone know the size? Are they available as a separate item?
>
>
>
> Also, just noticed the spelling of these things can be:
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> carburetor (American English) or
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> carburettor (British English)
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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Fri Oct  2 10:50:30 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 12:50:30 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Dave ? 

    Battery voltage with engine off is 12 volts. 

    Suspecting a possible battery problem, today we did a load test on the battery and it was OK.  We then hooked up a different battery with the same exact results ? no voltage increase noted at the battery with the engine running.  We are still completely confused by the fact that the alternator tested ?OK? (although only 13.4 volts instead of the expected 14+) but there is no voltage increase at the battery .  Brown/yellow wire tests OK.

      We are taking a break until Monday when I will pick up my original Lucas alternator from the local rebuilder.  The plan is I will have him verify the o/p voltage and we will put it on the car and test it w/o hooking the brown/yellow wire to the battery.  If it?s registering the same voltage as tested by the rebuilder (hopefully 14+), we will attach the brown/yellow wire and test at the battery. Neither of the rebuilt alternators that we have been dealing with have shown more than 12 volts either at the alternator or at the battery.

Completely flummoxed, 

Dennis  

 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 11:00 AM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

What is the battery voltage with the engine off?

 

Dave 

 

 

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To: 'DAVID MASSEY' < <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> dave1massey at cs.com>;  <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc:  <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ? 

    Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has about ? inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery which we?ve not really considered.  We, too, are grasping at straws?

Thanks. 

Dennis

 

From: DAVID MASSEY < <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM
To:  <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> dctr6 at optonline.net;  <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc:  <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Hmmm.... confusing.  I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.  Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?

 

Is the belt tight?

 

I'm grasping at straws.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Cc:  <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY < <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To:  <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> dctr6 at optonline.net;  <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc:  <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
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To:  <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> triumphs at autox.team.net
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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Thu Oct  1 16:26:33 2020
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 15:26:33 -0700
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Seems like it would be easy enough to run a temporary jumper, bypass that whole wire. That would point out a flaw somewhere along the path.

Just a thought,

Bob

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dctr6 at optonline.net
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 2:47 PM
To: 'Steve Kirby'; 'DAVID MASSEY'; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Steve ? 

    The brown/yellow wire goes into the harness near the alternator and comes out near the battery.  This is a very original car, despite its? 175,000 miles, and the wiring harness has not been knackered in the past. We have opened up the plastic casing at the battery end to check the connection in there (thanks for the tip Dave Massey) and all looks OK but will re-check). Thanks.

Dennis 

 

From: Steve Kirby <sackirby at chinaautogroup.com> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:41 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Is it possible that the wire running from the Alternator to the Battery has a fusible link in it that has blown?  These are sometimes added as a safety feature.  Not a fuse.  A fusible link.  It looks like a regular wire with a bulge in it at some point.  A fusible link is designed to burn through when subjected to excessive voltage.  They are not repairable, must be replaced.  Check for continuity between both ends of the charging wire.

 

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dctr6 at optonline.net
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:32 PM
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dctr6 at optonline.net
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 12:41:40 2020
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 13:41:40 -0500
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Don't forget to check your grounds.  Had a similar issue with a buddys car
years ago.  We replaced the battery, the alternator, etc, but problem
persisted.  Eventually we found that the ground strap from the engine to
the frame was loose.  Repaired that and all problems went away.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:16 AM <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:

>    Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and
> took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12
> volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the
> same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same
> thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed
> 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??
>
> Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct  2 13:25:28 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:25:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 The oft overlooked return path.? Since the car is starting one would presume the ground is in good nick but perhaps he is relying on the alternate ground paths such as the throttle linkage and the choke cables.? But if they work well enough to run the starter motor they should be ample for the charging circuit.? 

Just thinking out loud.
But this does raise the question.? When measuring the voltage where are the meter probes placed?? In particular the negative probe?? Is it on the engine block?? Battery negative terminal?? Bumper?? What happens if you measure the voltage difference between the engine block and the battery negative terminal?? This should be really close to zero.? 
 
Dave 

 
 
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Sent: Fri, Oct 2, 2020 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Don't forget to check your grounds.? Had a similar issue with a buddys car years ago.? We replaced the battery, the alternator, etc, but problem persisted.? Eventually we found that the ground strap from the engine to the frame was loose.? Repaired that and all problems went away.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:16 AM <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:

?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.? Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 13:59:29 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (James Henningsen)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 15:59:29 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable
Message-ID: <224807E8-E7D0-406E-97C5-9365634570B5@gmail.com>

Can someone tell me which firewall hole does the TR6 LHD hood release cable come out of.  Reinstalling after being on car for 10 years and don?t remember.  Through wiring harness grommet?  
Thanks.  
Jim Henningsen 

From joemato at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  4 05:35:50 2020
From: joemato at sbcglobal.net (JOSEPH MATO)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 11:35:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
References: <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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The fuel and temp gauges are inoperative and I am trying to find the voltage stabilizer to troubleshoot. Trying to get up to speed on 1970's LBC tech. Could someone please tell me where I can locate it? Thanks, Joe Mato
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From McGaheyRx at aol.com  Sun Oct  4 06:02:16 2020
From: McGaheyRx at aol.com (Jack McGahey)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 08:02:16 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
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It?s on the back of the speedometer 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 7:38 AM, JOSEPH MATO <joemato at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> The fuel and temp gauges are inoperative and I am trying to find the voltage stabilizer to troubleshoot. Trying to get up to speed on 1970's LBC tech. Could someone please tell me where I can locate it? Thanks, Joe Mato
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Oct  4 06:34:50 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 12:34:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
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 The gauges work off of the same fuse as the wipers, turn signals, heater fan, reverse lights and a few other things.? If these work then it is not the fuse.? But as I always say, check the easy things first.? 

It is attached to the back side of the Speedometer (or is it the tach?).? The usual failure mode for the stabilizer is the gauges read high.? If they don't work at all it is likely a wire that came loose.
Good luck.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2020 6:35 am
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer

The fuel and temp gauges are inoperative and I am trying to find the voltage stabilizer to troubleshoot. Trying to get up to speed on 1970's LBC tech. Could someone please tell me where I can locate it? Thanks, Joe Mato
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Oct  4 06:53:13 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable
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 There is a smaller hole just above the harness hole and below the clutch master cylinder.? It is directly inline with the operator end of the cable under the dash.? I tried to take a picture but there are too many other things cluttering the image and this is one case where a picture isn't worth the dozen or so words it took to describe it.
 
Dave 

 
 
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From: James Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>
To: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2020 2:59 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable

Can someone tell me which firewall hole does the TR6 LHD hood release cable come out of.? Reinstalling after being on car for 10 years and don?t remember.? Through wiring harness grommet?? 
Thanks.? 
Jim Henningsen 
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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 08:41:21 2020
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 10:41:21 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 08:57:20 2020
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 09:57:20 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
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References: <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <99532DF9-757A-4151-8D41-5B396A4E957A@hxcore.ol>
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I just took my speedo out, have done it many times, but first time in a
long time, tight clearance but was able to do it without removing anything
else.  You have to lay on your back under the dash, and the top finger nut
for the gauge hold down is not the easiest to get to, but out and back in
in a few minutes.  Good luck with voltage stabilizer.

Greg Lemon Tr250

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 9:42 AM Dean <tr3a58dean at gmail.com> wrote:

> In the 69-76 TR6 the Voltage Stabilizer is mounted to the back of the
> Speedometer.
>
>
>
> Dean Tetterton
>
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>
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>
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> *From: *JOSEPH MATO <joemato at sbcglobal.net>
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>
>
>
> The fuel and temp gauges are inoperative and I am trying to find the
> voltage stabilizer to troubleshoot. Trying to get up to speed on 1970's LBC
> tech. Could someone please tell me where I can locate it? Thanks, Joe Mato
>
>
>
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 10:23:49 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 12:23:49 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable
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References: <224807E8-E7D0-406E-97C5-9365634570B5@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0dd901d69a6a$bdddf820$3999e860$@gmail.com>

Dave and Edward:

I Found it.  Thanks, just wanted to check first since it has been so long.  One step closer.

Jim

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2020 8:53 AM
To: trguy75 at gmail.com; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 hood release cable

 

There is a smaller hole just above the harness hole and below the clutch master cylinder.  It is directly inline with the operator end of the cable under the dash.  I tried to take a picture but there are too many other things cluttering the image and this is one case where a picture isn't worth the dozen or so words it took to describe it.

 

Dave 

 

 

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To: TR3/6 < <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2020 2:59 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable

Can someone tell me which firewall hole does the TR6 LHD hood release cable come out of.  Reinstalling after being on car for 10 years and don?t remember.  Through wiring harness grommet?  

Thanks.  

Jim Henningsen 

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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Sun Oct  4 11:36:55 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 17:36:55 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
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References: <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053@mail.yahoo.com>
 <99532DF9-757A-4151-8D41-5B396A4E957A@hxcore.ol>,
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Tight clearance in one?s speedo can be cured by a bigger speedo ???

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2020, at 09:58, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:

?
I just took my speedo out, have done it many times, but first time in a long time, tight clearance but was able to do it without removing anything else.  You have to lay on your back under the dash, and the top finger nut for the gauge hold down is not the easiest to get to, but out and back in in a few minutes.  Good luck with voltage stabilizer.

Greg Lemon Tr250

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 9:42 AM Dean <tr3a58dean at gmail.com<mailto:tr3a58dean at gmail.com>> wrote:
In the 69-76 TR6 the Voltage Stabilizer is mounted to the back of the Speedometer.

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From keithstewart at bell.net  Sun Oct  4 12:17:02 2020
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 14:17:02 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable
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Jim, I know you already have your answer but for others in a similar situation, you might find this illustration helpful. It was created by Jim Herter.

Keith Stewart
keithstewart at bell.net



-----Original Message-----
From: James Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> 
Sent: October 3, 2020 3:59 PM
To: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable

Can someone tell me which firewall hole does the TR6 LHD hood release cable come out of.  Reinstalling after being on car for 10 years and don?t remember.  Through wiring harness grommet?  
Thanks.  
Jim Henningsen 
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 12:44:31 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 14:44:31 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable
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Love it.  Great resource. Thanks for sharing.  Will keep this one in the files. Jim

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 2:17 PM, keithstewart at bell.net wrote:
> 
> ?Jim, I know you already have your answer but for others in a similar situation, you might find this illustration helpful. It was created by Jim Herter.
> 
> Keith Stewart
> keithstewart at bell.net
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> 
> Sent: October 3, 2020 3:59 PM
> To: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] TR6 hood release cable
> 
> Can someone tell me which firewall hole does the TR6 LHD hood release cable come out of.  Reinstalling after being on car for 10 years and don?t remember.  Through wiring harness grommet?  
> Thanks.  
> Jim Henningsen 
> <BulkheadHoles.jpg>

From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 14:42:54 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:42:54 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue
Message-ID: <0f5c01d69a8e$ef65fb80$ce31f280$@gmail.com>

List:
I decided to take a break on my TR6 engine bay reinstall and work on the 67
TR4A IRS.  After dissembling the drivers side rear suspension, I noticed the
hole in the rear of the arm for the shock link is wallowed out.  What's the
correct diameter of the hole?  I don't have a spare trailing arm to check
and any ideas on creative solution to fix it?  



Thanks,
Jim Henningsen
Ocala, FL
61 TR3A
62 TR4
67 TR4A
75 TR6
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 14:46:51 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:46:51 -0400
Subject: [TR] Free Part
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Also,
Does anyone need an original Stanpart late TR4 radiator with all the factory
Coventry label and part number plates still attached to header tank.  Free
to a good home who is looking for a concours correct header tank.  Don't
know condition, but was sent this was in error and Foreign Car Enterprises
on ebay (FORCARENT) said I could offer it up to the Triumph list.  Very nice
of them.  Email me off list if interested and I will send some pics.  
Jim Henningsen
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From ryel at mac.com  Sun Oct  4 14:52:00 2020
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 13:52:00 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue
In-Reply-To: <0f5c01d69a8e$ef65fb80$ce31f280$@gmail.com>
References: <0f5c01d69a8e$ef65fb80$ce31f280$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B2C684BA-2A60-4A92-B92B-C892C44AF841@mac.com>

I forget, steel or aluminum?  If steel you could weld a washer in place.  If aluminum, take it to a welder who is versed in welding aluminum and have it welded over and drill a new hole?

Rye

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> List:
> I decided to take a break on my TR6 engine bay reinstall and work on the 67
> TR4A IRS.  After dissembling the drivers side rear suspension, I noticed the
> hole in the rear of the arm for the shock link is wallowed out.  What's the
> correct diameter of the hole?  I don't have a spare trailing arm to check
> and any ideas on creative solution to fix it?  
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim Henningsen
> Ocala, FL
> 61 TR3A
> 62 TR4
> 67 TR4A
> 75 TR6
> 81 TR8
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 15:09:29 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 17:09:29 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue
In-Reply-To: <B2C684BA-2A60-4A92-B92B-C892C44AF841@mac.com>
References: <B2C684BA-2A60-4A92-B92B-C892C44AF841@mac.com>
Message-ID: <FA72F13A-1FFA-49A6-AEAA-1C9256337EDF@gmail.com>

Thanks,
They are aluminum. Good suggestions.  Now to know the exact size of the hole?
Jim

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I forget, steel or aluminum?  If steel you could weld a washer in place.  If aluminum, take it to a welder who is versed in welding aluminum and have it welded over and drill a new hole?
> 
> Rye
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> List:
>> I decided to take a break on my TR6 engine bay reinstall and work on the 67
>> TR4A IRS.  After dissembling the drivers side rear suspension, I noticed the
>> hole in the rear of the arm for the shock link is wallowed out.  What's the
>> correct diameter of the hole?  I don't have a spare trailing arm to check
>> and any ideas on creative solution to fix it?  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jim Henningsen
>> Ocala, FL
>> 61 TR3A
>> 62 TR4
>> 67 TR4A
>> 75 TR6
>> 81 TR8
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From ryel at mac.com  Sun Oct  4 15:22:55 2020
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 14:22:55 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue
In-Reply-To: <FA72F13A-1FFA-49A6-AEAA-1C9256337EDF@gmail.com>
References: <B2C684BA-2A60-4A92-B92B-C892C44AF841@mac.com>
 <FA72F13A-1FFA-49A6-AEAA-1C9256337EDF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14A87C42-995B-4198-BCE6-C45E8EBE415D@mac.com>

If you can?t find the specification for the correct size of the hole, you have the stock bolts right?  Take those with you to the welder.  



> On Oct 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks,
> They are aluminum. Good suggestions.  Now to know the exact size of the hole?
> Jim
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I forget, steel or aluminum?  If steel you could weld a washer in place.  If aluminum, take it to a welder who is versed in welding aluminum and have it welded over and drill a new hole?
>> 
>> Rye
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> List:
>>> I decided to take a break on my TR6 engine bay reinstall and work on the 67
>>> TR4A IRS.  After dissembling the drivers side rear suspension, I noticed the
>>> hole in the rear of the arm for the shock link is wallowed out.  What's the
>>> correct diameter of the hole?  I don't have a spare trailing arm to check
>>> and any ideas on creative solution to fix it?  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim Henningsen
>>> Ocala, FL
>>> 61 TR3A
>>> 62 TR4
>>> 67 TR4A
>>> 75 TR6
>>> 81 TR8
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Oct  4 16:30:14 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 22:30:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue
In-Reply-To: <14A87C42-995B-4198-BCE6-C45E8EBE415D@mac.com>
References: <B2C684BA-2A60-4A92-B92B-C892C44AF841@mac.com>
 <FA72F13A-1FFA-49A6-AEAA-1C9256337EDF@gmail.com>
 <14A87C42-995B-4198-BCE6-C45E8EBE415D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <69225992.1679767.1601850614304@mail.yahoo.com>

 Bolts AND the bushings.? The hole is sized for the bushing to prevent metal-metal contact.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
To: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2020 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue

If you can?t find the specification for the correct size of the hole, you have the stock bolts right?? Take those with you to the welder.? 



> On Oct 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks,
> They are aluminum. Good suggestions.? Now to know the exact size of the hole?
> Jim
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I forget, steel or aluminum?? If steel you could weld a washer in place.? If aluminum, take it to a welder who is versed in welding aluminum and have it welded over and drill a new hole?
>> 
>> Rye
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> List:
>>> I decided to take a break on my TR6 engine bay reinstall and work on the 67
>>> TR4A IRS.? After dissembling the drivers side rear suspension, I noticed the
>>> hole in the rear of the arm for the shock link is wallowed out.? What's the
>>> correct diameter of the hole?? I don't have a spare trailing arm to check
>>> and any ideas on creative solution to fix it?? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim Henningsen
>>> Ocala, FL
>>> 61 TR3A
>>> 62 TR4
>>> 67 TR4A
>>> 75 TR6
>>> 81 TR8
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>>> 
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Sun Oct  4 16:36:28 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 18:36:28 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue
In-Reply-To: <0f5c01d69a8e$ef65fb80$ce31f280$@gmail.com>
References: <0f5c01d69a8e$ef65fb80$ce31f280$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59E947BCAF5E436EBE7C3259AE9845DA@VlackTK121647>

Hi Jim, I just looked at a spare TA and the hole looks to be 3/4 inch. It's 
a cast in hole not drilled. Also if you decide to replace the TA keep in 
mind the 4A TA's are different than the TR6 ones. I don't know if the 250 
TA's are like the 4A or the 6's. The difference is in the bump stops 
positions. TR6 are on the TA's and 4A's are on the body.
Trust this helps. Marv Gruber might have a good replacement. I've CC him on 
this email.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Henningsen
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 4:42 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Rear Trailing Arm Issue

List:
I decided to take a break on my TR6 engine bay reinstall and work on the 67
TR4A IRS.  After dissembling the drivers side rear suspension, I noticed the
hole in the rear of the arm for the shock link is wallowed out.  What's the
correct diameter of the hole?  I don't have a spare trailing arm to check
and any ideas on creative solution to fix it?



Thanks,
Jim Henningsen
Ocala, FL
61 TR3A
62 TR4
67 TR4A
75 TR6
81 TR8






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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 16:55:39 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 15:55:39 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
In-Reply-To: <5CF074AA-841F-465D-83C2-5090CDA4448D@albiontechnical.com>
References: <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053@mail.yahoo.com>
 <99532DF9-757A-4151-8D41-5B396A4E957A@hxcore.ol>
 <CAFtw3aZ5CJ2c_PmG+Uy5-tVdSf1vysfms2eDSNhm+f1fi4XagA@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CF074AA-841F-465D-83C2-5090CDA4448D@albiontechnical.com>
Message-ID: <CANLCLaGOpp5KNh7cgNqwieSjNgcXXDktk8GMHiKoxFHdKTHBig@mail.gmail.com>

The voltage stabilizer is a bimetal strip. I've been told when they don't
work. U get 12 volts instead of 10v . Both gauges will read higher than
normal
.  Are you getting a 12 volt to the stabilizer.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 10:41 AM Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>
wrote:

> Tight clearance in one?s speedo can be cured by a bigger speedo ???
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 4, 2020, at 09:58, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> I just took my speedo out, have done it many times, but first time in a
> long time, tight clearance but was able to do it without removing anything
> else.  You have to lay on your back under the dash, and the top finger nut
> for the gauge hold down is not the easiest to get to, but out and back in
> in a few minutes.  Good luck with voltage stabilizer.
>
> Greg Lemon Tr250
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 9:42 AM Dean <tr3a58dean at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the 69-76 TR6 the Voltage Stabilizer is mounted to the back of the
>> Speedometer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dean Tetterton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.microsoft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D550986&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=HL4LAX-jeuoWNeqz1u1ryqDHfrhQ38xO3ECYGpjCniQ&m=-_Q_vOXAGy880uUVCf9JLk53BfvFzmABie34EsLzCPI&s=YKrZxEIZGq-ztGdtUk8S8duFQ5vtwxj69Pqu0QiOWbU&e=>
>> for Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *JOSEPH MATO <joemato at sbcglobal.net>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, October 4, 2020 7:39 AM
>> *To: *TR List <triumphs at autox.team.net>; triumphs-request at autox.team.net
>> *Subject: *[TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
>>
>>
>>
>> The fuel and temp gauges are inoperative and I am trying to find the
>> voltage stabilizer to troubleshoot. Trying to get up to speed on 1970's LBC
>> tech. Could someone please tell me where I can locate it? Thanks, Joe Mato
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 16:57:37 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 15:57:37 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaGOpp5KNh7cgNqwieSjNgcXXDktk8GMHiKoxFHdKTHBig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1625793316.1720019.1601811350053@mail.yahoo.com>
 <99532DF9-757A-4151-8D41-5B396A4E957A@hxcore.ol>
 <CAFtw3aZ5CJ2c_PmG+Uy5-tVdSf1vysfms2eDSNhm+f1fi4XagA@mail.gmail.com>
 <5CF074AA-841F-465D-83C2-5090CDA4448D@albiontechnical.com>
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Message-ID: <CANLCLaHi3tgh1-Od1-RJo1rN7h9Jcg2P4VrmbGZzo9a2CidQ5g@mail.gmail.com>

You also may want to check the ground wire

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 3:55 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:

> The voltage stabilizer is a bimetal strip. I've been told when they don't
> work. U get 12 volts instead of 10v . Both gauges will read higher than
> normal
> .  Are you getting a 12 volt to the stabilizer.
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 10:41 AM Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tight clearance in one?s speedo can be cured by a bigger speedo ???
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2020, at 09:58, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> I just took my speedo out, have done it many times, but first time in a
>> long time, tight clearance but was able to do it without removing anything
>> else.  You have to lay on your back under the dash, and the top finger nut
>> for the gauge hold down is not the easiest to get to, but out and back in
>> in a few minutes.  Good luck with voltage stabilizer.
>>
>> Greg Lemon Tr250
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 9:42 AM Dean <tr3a58dean at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In the 69-76 TR6 the Voltage Stabilizer is mounted to the back of the
>>> Speedometer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dean Tetterton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.microsoft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D550986&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=HL4LAX-jeuoWNeqz1u1ryqDHfrhQ38xO3ECYGpjCniQ&m=-_Q_vOXAGy880uUVCf9JLk53BfvFzmABie34EsLzCPI&s=YKrZxEIZGq-ztGdtUk8S8duFQ5vtwxj69Pqu0QiOWbU&e=>
>>> for Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *JOSEPH MATO <joemato at sbcglobal.net>
>>> *Sent: *Sunday, October 4, 2020 7:39 AM
>>> *To: *TR List <triumphs at autox.team.net>; triumphs-request at autox.team.net
>>> *Subject: *[TR] TR 6 voltage stabilizer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The fuel and temp gauges are inoperative and I am trying to find the
>>> voltage stabilizer to troubleshoot. Trying to get up to speed on 1970's LBC
>>> tech. Could someone please tell me where I can locate it? Thanks, Joe Mato
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Oct  5 13:59:48 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 14:59:48 -0500
Subject: [TR] Free Part
In-Reply-To: <0f6001d69a8f$7d04b670$770e2350$@gmail.com>
References: <0f6001d69a8f$7d04b670$770e2350$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ab01d69b52$14f7dc60$3ee79520$@ranteer.com>

I have had equally bad experiences dealing with FORCARENT.    AVOID   AVOID
AVOID   AVOID

The wife actually used the F word at me.  AVOID   AVOID   AVOID   AVOID

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Henningsen
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:47 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Free Part

Also,
Does anyone need an original Stanpart late TR4 radiator with all the factory
Coventry label and part number plates still attached to header tank.  Free
to a good home who is looking for a concours correct header tank.  Don't
know condition, but was sent this was in error and Foreign Car Enterprises
on ebay (FORCARENT) said I could offer it up to the Triumph list.  Very nice
of them.  Email me off list if interested and I will send some pics.  
Jim Henningsen


From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 19:26:49 2020
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 21:26:49 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
In-Reply-To: <728441351.313648.1601480887600@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <001f01d696a5$cfca9a20$6f5fce60$@gmail.com>
 <002001d69722$475392f0$d5fab8d0$@ranteer.com>
 <728441351.313648.1601480887600@mail.yahoo.com>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 11:48 <ptegler at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> If for a good reason, peace of mind, and  the story above.  (yes true
> story above..from someone that DID 'have a clue' about what he was doing.)
>

I'd like to think that if I had an electrical problem, the path to dealing
with it would not be to ignore it for six or right years.

I guess that's in the "never too late to learn" column.

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From timthebold at ameritech.net  Mon Oct  5 21:12:56 2020
From: timthebold at ameritech.net (Tim Moore)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 03:12:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Free Part
In-Reply-To: <01ab01d69b52$14f7dc60$3ee79520$@ranteer.com>
References: <0f6001d69a8f$7d04b670$770e2350$@gmail.com>
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I have also had bad experience with Forcarent. I avoid unless hes the only one that has a part i need and then i think twice.    On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:38:40 PM EDT, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
 I have had equally bad experiences dealing with FORCARENT.? ? AVOID? AVOID
AVOID? AVOID

The wife actually used the F word at me.? AVOID? AVOID? AVOID? AVOID

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Henningsen
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:47 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Free Part

Also,
Does anyone need an original Stanpart late TR4 radiator with all the factory
Coventry label and part number plates still attached to header tank.? Free
to a good home who is looking for a concours correct header tank.? Don't
know condition, but was sent this was in error and Foreign Car Enterprises
on ebay (FORCARENT) said I could offer it up to the Triumph list.? Very nice
of them.? Email me off list if interested and I will send some pics.? 
Jim Henningsen

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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Tue Oct  6 05:25:34 2020
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 07:25:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TR] Free Part
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From glewis999 at aol.com  Tue Oct  6 06:20:18 2020
From: glewis999 at aol.com (glewis999 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 12:20:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Free Part
References: <1218625995.2465830.1601986818732.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1218625995.2465830.1601986818732@mail.yahoo.com>

You all seem to me to be missing the point, it is Jim that is offering the radiator, not Forcarent.Graham

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 On?Tuesday, 6 October 2020,?EDWARD WOODS?<fogbro1 at comcast.net>?wrote:

  Same here. Forcarent is on my "Don't Buy" list. Go somewhere else if at all possible.   
   Ed Woods  
  On 10/05/2020 11:12 PM Tim Moore <timthebold at ameritech.net> wrote:   
   
    
   
   I have also had bad experience with Forcarent. I avoid unless hes the only one that has a part i need and then i think twice.      On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:38:40 PM EDT, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:   
   
    I have had equally bad experiences dealing with FORCARENT.? ? AVOID? AVOID 
AVOID? AVOID 
 
The wife actually used the F word at me.? AVOID? AVOID? AVOID? AVOID 
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: Triumphs < triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Henningsen 
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: triumphs at autox.team.net 
Subject: [TR] Free Part 
 
Also, 
Does anyone need an original Stanpart late TR4 radiator with all the factory 
Coventry label and part number plates still attached to header tank.? Free 
to a good home who is looking for a concours correct header tank.? Don't 
know condition, but was sent this was in error and Foreign Car Enterprises 
on ebay (FORCARENT) said I could offer it up to the Triumph list.? Very nice 
of them.? Email me off list if interested and I will send some pics.? 
Jim Henningsen 
 
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From timthebold at ameritech.net  Tue Oct  6 11:13:20 2020
From: timthebold at ameritech.net (timthebold)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 13:13:20 -0400
Subject: [TR] Free Part
In-Reply-To: <1218625995.2465830.1601986818732@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1602004408.2890.triumphs@autox.team.net>


Not missing the point. Just saying that any part that was sold by Forcarent should be highly scrutinized.?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: glewis999 at aol.com Date: 10/6/20  8:22 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: fogbro1 at comcast.net Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, timthebold at ameritech.net Subject: Re: [TR] Free Part You all seem to me to be missing the point, it is Jim that is offering the radiator, not Forcarent.GrahamSent from AOL Mobile MailGet the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com


    On?Tuesday, 6 October 2020,?EDWARD WOODS?<fogbro1 at comcast.net>?wrote:


  
   Same here. Forcarent is on my "Don't Buy" list. Go somewhere else if at all possible.
  
  
   
  
  
   Ed Woods
  
  
   
    On 10/05/2020 11:12 PM Tim Moore <timthebold at ameritech.net> wrote:
   
   
    
   
   
    
   
   
    
     
    
    
     
    
    
     I have also had bad experience with Forcarent. I avoid unless hes the only one that has a part i need and then i think twice.
    
   
   
    
     
      On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:38:40 PM EDT, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
     
     
      
     
     
      
     
     
      
       I have had equally bad experiences dealing with FORCARENT.? ? AVOID? AVOID
       AVOID? AVOID
       
       The wife actually used the F word at me.? AVOID? AVOID? AVOID? AVOID
       
       
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Triumphs <
        triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Henningsen
        Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:47 PM
        To: 
        triumphs at autox.team.net
        Subject: [TR] Free Part
        
        Also,
        Does anyone need an original Stanpart late TR4 radiator with all the factory
        Coventry label and part number plates still attached to header tank.? Free
        to a good home who is looking for a concours correct header tank.? Don't
        know condition, but was sent this was in error and Foreign Car Enterprises
        on ebay (FORCARENT) said I could offer it up to the Triumph list.? Very nice
        of them.? Email me off list if interested and I will send some pics.? 
        Jim Henningsen
        
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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct  6 13:18:19 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 14:18:19 -0500
Subject: [TR] Free Part
In-Reply-To: <20201006171433.9F60AA10CE@autox.team.net>
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No, we are saying DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH forcarent.  Period.

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of timthebold
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:13 PM
To: glewis999 at aol.com; fogbro1 at comcast.net
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Free Part

 

Not missing the point. Just saying that any part that was sold by Forcarent should be highly scrutinized. 

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

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Date: 10/6/20 8:22 AM (GMT-05:00) 

To: fogbro1 at comcast.net <mailto:fogbro1 at comcast.net>  

Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> , timthebold at ameritech.net <mailto:timthebold at ameritech.net>  

Subject: Re: [TR] Free Part 

 

You all seem to me to be missing the point, it is Jim that is offering the radiator, not Forcarent.

Graham

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On Tuesday, 6 October 2020, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1 at comcast.net <mailto:fogbro1 at comcast.net> > wrote: 

 

Same here. Forcarent is on my "Don't Buy" list. Go somewhere else if at all possible. 

 

Ed Woods 

On 10/05/2020 11:12 PM Tim Moore <timthebold at ameritech.net <mailto:timthebold at ameritech.net> > wrote: 

 

 

 

 

I have also had bad experience with Forcarent. I avoid unless hes the only one that has a part i need and then i think twice. 

On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:38:40 PM EDT, dave <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I have had equally bad experiences dealing with FORCARENT.    AVOID  AVOID 
AVOID  AVOID 

The wife actually used the F word at me.  AVOID  AVOID  AVOID  AVOID 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Triumphs < triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Jim Henningsen 
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>  
Subject: [TR] Free Part 

Also, 
Does anyone need an original Stanpart late TR4 radiator with all the factory 
Coventry label and part number plates still attached to header tank.  Free 
to a good home who is looking for a concours correct header tank.  Don't 
know condition, but was sent this was in error and Foreign Car Enterprises 
on ebay (FORCARENT) said I could offer it up to the Triumph list.  Very nice 
of them.  Email me off list if interested and I will send some pics.  
Jim Henningsen 

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From loumetelko at aol.com  Tue Oct  6 14:02:47 2020
From: loumetelko at aol.com (loumetelko at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] free part
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Just drives home the point that when you search the Internet in looking for the cheapest price and when found you automatically forfeit your right to complain about service or quality!

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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct  6 14:16:32 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 15:16:32 -0500
Subject: [TR] thread locker red
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I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I'm pretty sure I don't want
to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.

 

And reason to keep it?

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Oct  6 14:40:14 2020
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 15:40:14 -0500
Subject: [TR] thread locker red
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I use red on all the stuff I really don't want falling out - like rod 
bolts / main bolts (at least I would if they weren't ARP type - torque 
with lube) / flywheel bolts, pressure plate bolts.? I actually use it 
more than the blue - the bolts in the harmonic balancer use blue 
threadlocker.

Kind of depends on what stuff you take apart / reassemble with thread 
locker.

- Tony Drews

On 10/6/2020 3:16 PM, dave wrote:
>
> I accidentally bought some red thread locker.? I?m pretty sure I don?t 
> want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
>
> And reason to keep it?
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct  6 15:10:12 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 16:10:12 -0500
Subject: [TR] free part
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But they are definitely NOT the cheapest.  Just one of the worst

 

Avoid ForcarEnt!!!

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 3:03 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] free part

 

Just drives home the point that when you search the Internet in looking for the cheapest price and when found you automatically forfeit your right to complain about service or quality!

Lou Metelko

Auburn, Indiana

 

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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 17:25:49 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 19:25:49 -0400
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <002201d69c25$151b4500$3f51cf00$@ranteer.com>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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List:

Always appreciate feedback on list member views of suppliers.  Good info for me as I haven?t purchased much from them on ebay.  I thought it was nice of them to agree to my offer to offer the original part up to a list member and they did.  

Jim Henningsen

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 5:10 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] free part

 

But they are definitely NOT the cheapest.  Just one of the worst

 

Avoid ForcarEnt!!!

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of loumetelko at aol.com <mailto:loumetelko at aol.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 3:03 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [TR] free part

 

Just drives home the point that when you search the Internet in looking for the cheapest price and when found you automatically forfeit your right to complain about service or quality!

Lou Metelko

Auburn, Indiana

 

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From grglmn at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 19:04:17 2020
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:04:17 -0500
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <1bad01d69c38$06f5c500$14e14f00$@gmail.com>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <557083144.1929291.1602014567437@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <1bad01d69c38$06f5c500$14e14f00$@gmail.com>
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So I met the guy a few years ago when my brother wanted to get rid of a
bunch of Triumph parts.  The price he paid was in the ballpark of fair
considering he had to resell it.  He was there with his wife.  I have
bought sold and swapped a few parts with him, not the greatest, not the
worst.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 6:32 PM Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> wrote:

> List:
>
> Always appreciate feedback on list member views of suppliers.  Good info
> for me as I haven?t purchased much from them on ebay.  I thought it was
> nice of them to agree to my offer to offer the original part up to a list
> member and they did.
>
> Jim Henningsen
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *dave
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2020 5:10 PM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] free part
>
>
>
> But they are definitely NOT the cheapest.  Just one of the worst
>
>
>
> Avoid ForcarEnt!!!
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> loumetelko at aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2020 3:03 PM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [TR] free part
>
>
>
> Just drives home the point that when you search the Internet in looking
> for the cheapest price and when found you automatically forfeit your right
> to complain about service or quality!
>
> Lou Metelko
>
> Auburn, Indiana
>
>
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Wed Oct  7 09:47:13 2020
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 11:47:13 -0400
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <002201d69c25$151b4500$3f51cf00$@ranteer.com>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <557083144.1929291.1602014567437@mail.yahoo.com>
 <002201d69c25$151b4500$3f51cf00$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <4C3B74CC-93FF-4015-BD30-156782B10B29@comcast.net>

I?ve never bought anything form ForcarEnt nor do I plan to, but when I went to their eBay store to look out of curiosity they have 100% positive feedback.  Given all the difficulties list members have had with the company I find it amazing that they have such positive feedback. I guess that now we abbe to be suspicious of the eBay feedback ratings.
	Best,
	Bob
	'72 TR6

> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:10 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> ForcarEnt

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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Wed Oct  7 10:18:38 2020
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 12:18:38 -0400
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <4C3B74CC-93FF-4015-BD30-156782B10B29@comcast.net>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <557083144.1929291.1602014567437@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <4C3B74CC-93FF-4015-BD30-156782B10B29@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <fb672ac0-4790-105d-1236-75cfed555b33@adelphia.net>

Bob,

I haven't used Ebay in awhile but when I did and posted negative 
feedback, it was challenged by the seller and not posted even as I 
protested. Well that pretty much ended my Ebay experience. They are as 
corrupt as FB, Twitter and Youtube. I sent them a reply telling them 
where they could stuff their company.

Bob

On 10/7/20 11:47 AM, Rochlin Robert wrote:
> I?ve never bought anything form ForcarEnt nor do I plan to, but when I 
> went to their eBay store to look out of curiosity they have 100% 
> positive feedback. ?Given all the difficulties list members have had 
> with the company I find it amazing that they have such positive 
> feedback. I guess that now we abbe to be suspicious of the eBay 
> feedback ratings.
> Best,
> Bob
> '72 TR6
>
>> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:10 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com 
>> <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ForcarEnt
>
>
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Wed Oct  7 10:28:36 2020
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 12:28:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <fb672ac0-4790-105d-1236-75cfed555b33@adelphia.net>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Wed Oct  7 11:55:27 2020
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:55:27 -0400
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <4C3B74CC-93FF-4015-BD30-156782B10B29@comcast.net>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <557083144.1929291.1602014567437@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <004c01d69cd3$0bf29c90$23d7d5b0$@uprichard.net>

The one and only time I bought from them I left negative feedback.  The owner sent me a really nasty email. For some reason, my feedback never appeared.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rochlin Robert
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] free part

 

I?ve never bought anything form ForcarEnt nor do I plan to, but when I went to their eBay store to look out of curiosity they have 100% positive feedback.  Given all the difficulties list members have had with the company I find it amazing that they have such positive feedback. I guess that now we abbe to be suspicious of the eBay feedback ratings.

              Best,

              Bob

              '72 TR6





On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:10 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com> > wrote:

 

ForcarEnt

 

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From timthebold at ameritech.net  Wed Oct  7 11:56:38 2020
From: timthebold at ameritech.net (Tim Moore)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 17:56:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <4C3B74CC-93FF-4015-BD30-156782B10B29@comcast.net>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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If you leave negative feedback for Forcarent he blocks you from buying from him. Ask me how I know.    On Wednesday, October 7, 2020, 11:52:19 AM EDT, Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 I?ve never bought anything form ForcarEnt nor do I plan to, but when I went to their eBay store to look out of curiosity they have 100% positive feedback. ?Given all the difficulties list members have had with the company I find it amazing that they have such positive feedback. I guess that now we abbe to be suspicious of the eBay feedback ratings. Best, Bob '72 TR6


On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:10 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
ForcarEnt

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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Oct  7 14:59:08 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 15:59:08 -0500
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <1102784899.334494.1602093398597@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1602104353.2890.triumphs@autox.team.net>

Thats a good thing!
-------- Original message --------From: Tim Moore <timthebold at ameritech.net> Date: 10/7/20  12:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] free part 
        If you leave negative feedback for Forcarent he blocks you from buying from him. Ask me how I know.
        
        
            
                
                
                    On Wednesday, October 7, 2020, 11:52:19 AM EDT, Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:
                
                
                
                I?ve never bought anything form ForcarEnt nor do I plan to, but when I went to their eBay store to look out of curiosity they have 100% positive feedback. ?Given all the difficulties list members have had with the company I find it amazing that they have such positive feedback. I guess that now we abbe to be suspicious of the eBay feedback ratings.	Best,	Bob	'72 TR6On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:10 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:ForcarEnt** triumphs at autox.team.net **Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/timthebold at ameritech.net
            
        
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 18:51:18 2020
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 19:51:18 -0500
Subject: [TR] free part
In-Reply-To: <004c01d69cd3$0bf29c90$23d7d5b0$@uprichard.net>
References: <557083144.1929291.1602014567437.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFtw3ab6Ks4zOBV=fdhSYPSkN9XRyc2+wJafxg=DZBWuSmnE=w@mail.gmail.com>

I used to buy an sell on eBay a lot.  Started in the late 90s.  In the
early days they called it a community, and to some extent it was.  Suddenly
easy to find or sell old obscure car parts that had a very limited market
locally.  Many of the folks doing it were hobbyists like our listers here.

In the early days no buyer protection, you bought based on an online
description (remember the days before pictures were even common?) mailed
your check or money order, and hoped the seller was honest enough to send
you the item and it would be as described.  Sellers started taking
advantage, bogus accounts, gouging on shipping.  E bay put in buyer
protection.

Some buyers figured out that they could basically blackmail sellers by
leaving bad feedback, warranted or not, and they put in feedback disputes
and such to make it harder to leave negative feedback.

They also upped fees and restructured them to incentivize to list, charging
all or the lion's share of fees on sale and giving listing discounts to
volume sellers.

So we end up with 100s of listings for pink steering wheel covers and valve
stem caps with skulls on them for our Triumphs.

And somehow, despite increased volume and automation, with eBay and PayPal
fees, sellers pay 10-15% fees per transaction, as opposed to 2.5-3.5% in
the early days.

So like most things in the world a few bad apples and big corporate
management sort of ruined it for the rest of us.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 12:58 PM <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:

> The one and only time I bought from them I left negative feedback.  The
> owner sent me a really nasty email. For some reason, my feedback never
> appeared.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Rochlin
> Robert
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:47 AM
> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] free part
>
>
>
> I?ve never bought anything form ForcarEnt nor do I plan to, but when I
> went to their eBay store to look out of curiosity they have 100% positive
> feedback.  Given all the difficulties list members have had with the
> company I find it amazing that they have such positive feedback. I guess
> that now we abbe to be suspicious of the eBay feedback ratings.
>
>               Best,
>
>               Bob
>
>               '72 TR6
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:10 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ForcarEnt
>
>
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From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  9 11:10:25 2020
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (Bill Brewer)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 10:10:25 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug
References: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$@yahoo.com>

     So I have a 1953 Morgan with an original Standard Vanguard engine. The
engine is very similar to a TR3 engine. It recently blew a head gasket and
overheated. I had the head resurfaced and bolted it all back together,
started it up and discovered that the freeze plug at the back of the head is
leaking now. Dang! Wish that I had thought about that before reassembling...
On the Morgan the freeze plug is about 10" away from the firewall and not as
close as it is on a TR3. I do not want to pull the head again. Any known
tricks on how to get the old plug out and the new plug in without removing
the head? 

     TIA,

 

     -Bill Brewer

     Morro Bay, CA

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From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Fri Oct  9 11:51:16 2020
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 17:51:16 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug
In-Reply-To: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$@yahoo.com>
References: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$.ref@yahoo.com>,
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Message-ID: <CY4PR22MB092079FA8EA053E9AB0EA815FA080@CY4PR22MB0920.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

I?m guessing you can get the old freeze plug out with a long drift and pair of right-angle pliers.  Installing the new plug, though? 10? isn?t much room to swing a hammer to drive in a new plug with a socket. Hard to hit it square with any force.  Maybe make a press with two plates and a piece of all thread?  Push against the firewall to press the plug into place?

There are rubber freeze plugs with a hex nut that turns to expand the plug to fill the hole.

Good luck with the repair.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Bill Brewer<mailto:billbrewer59 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:24 AM
To: Triumphs List<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug

     So I have a 1953 Morgan with an original Standard Vanguard engine. The engine is very similar to a TR3 engine. It recently blew a head gasket and overheated. I had the head resurfaced and bolted it all back together, started it up and discovered that the freeze plug at the back of the head is leaking now. Dang! Wish that I had thought about that before reassembling... On the Morgan the freeze plug is about 10? away from the firewall and not as close as it is on a TR3. I do not want to pull the head again. Any known tricks on how to get the old plug out and the new plug in without removing the head?
     TIA,

     -Bill Brewer
     Morro Bay, CA

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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Fri Oct  9 12:53:34 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:53:34 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug
In-Reply-To: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$@yahoo.com>
References: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$.ref@yahoo.com>
 <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8DE235E75B9F4EFBBCFFE6C608876430@VlackTK121647>

I think you know the answer but just hoping for a miracle. Pull the head and do it right for piece of mind.
JVV 

From: Bill Brewer 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:10 PM
To: Triumphs List 
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug

     So I have a 1953 Morgan with an original Standard Vanguard engine. The engine is very similar to a TR3 engine. It recently blew a head gasket and overheated. I had the head resurfaced and bolted it all back together, started it up and discovered that the freeze plug at the back of the head is leaking now. Dang! Wish that I had thought about that before reassembling... On the Morgan the freeze plug is about 10? away from the firewall and not as close as it is on a TR3. I do not want to pull the head again. Any known tricks on how to get the old plug out and the new plug in without removing the head? 

     TIA,

 

     -Bill Brewer

     Morro Bay, CA



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From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  9 13:03:00 2020
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (Bill Brewer)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 12:03:00 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug
In-Reply-To: <8DE235E75B9F4EFBBCFFE6C608876430@VlackTK121647>
References: <00b201d69e5f$150ec6e0$3f2c54a0$.ref@yahoo.com>
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     Yah, I may pull out the leaking freeze plug and install one of those rubber expandable plugs. The car is at a friend?s house 4 hours away and he is tired of storing it for me. I may just get it ambulatory and drive it home and pull the head again once I get home?

     I?ll try to get a new freeze plug in first.

 

     -Bill Brewer

     Morro Bay, CA

 

From: Jerry Van Vlack [mailto:jerryvv at roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:54 AM
To: Bill Brewer; Triumphs List
Subject: Re: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug

 

I think you know the answer but just hoping for a miracle. Pull the head and do it right for piece of mind.

JVV 

 

From: Bill Brewer 

Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:10 PM

To: Triumphs List 

Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug

 

     So I have a 1953 Morgan with an original Standard Vanguard engine. The engine is very similar to a TR3 engine. It recently blew a head gasket and overheated. I had the head resurfaced and bolted it all back together, started it up and discovered that the freeze plug at the back of the head is leaking now. Dang! Wish that I had thought about that before reassembling... On the Morgan the freeze plug is about 10? away from the firewall and not as close as it is on a TR3. I do not want to pull the head again. Any known tricks on how to get the old plug out and the new plug in without removing the head? 

     TIA,

 

     -Bill Brewer

     Morro Bay, CA

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From joemato at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 10 03:54:50 2020
From: joemato at sbcglobal.net (JOSEPH MATO)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:54:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Freeze plug
References: <1880599415.46978.1602323690959.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I had that problem and it was sealed with Bars cooling system leak sealant which lasted for the time? I had the car, about 4 years. Joe Mato
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Sat Oct 10 06:14:58 2020
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 08:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug
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From billbrewer59 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 10 18:33:58 2020
From: billbrewer59 at yahoo.com (Bill Brewer)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 17:33:58 -0700
Subject: [TR] Horn/Alternator Failure. Connected?
References: <00cf01d69f66$360d7320$a2285960$.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00cf01d69f66$360d7320$a2285960$@yahoo.com>

     So I was out driving my TR3 that has a GM alternator in it. All of the
sudden the horns went off and wouldn't stop. I pulled over to the curb and
turned the key off and they kept sounding. Then they stopped by themselves
and don't work at all now. I started the car and now the alternator failure
light illuminated. Just great. I checked the alternator and yes, it is not
generating power. Can these two occurrences be connected? Maybe they just
decided to happen at about the same time. I can't see it in the wiring
diagram.

 

     -Bill Brewer

 

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From stevensoslo at aol.com  Sun Oct 11 12:31:21 2020
From: stevensoslo at aol.com (Jim Stevens)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:31:21 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator/horn
References: <2A076EE1-89ED-4662-8813-7A2779F8D714.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2A076EE1-89ED-4662-8813-7A2779F8D714@aol.com>

Bill- I?ve read that after the starter motor the horns are the largest load. Hence their separate circuit.  My guess is that when the horns shorted, that overloaded the alternator circuit.  Might you have the dummy control unit with built in fuse?  ( I didn?t look to see what model you have)

Jim

From triumphstag at gmail.com  Mon Oct 12 10:37:01 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 09:37:01 -0700
Subject: [TR] Online Sprint and Midget parts catelogue
Message-ID: <CANLCLaEqtusoh3gbePSbKzZs8xoJGO+LHkgRVmyo7XgutN=MHw@mail.gmail.com>

Not Triumph, but maybe useful

https://www.scottysretroworkshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AKM0036.pdf

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Mon Oct 12 11:42:55 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:42:55 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR6 OEM hardtop value
Message-ID: <000501d6a0bf$24736bb0$6d5a4310$@optonline.net>

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 - Any idea what these
are going for these days? 

I've not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones
(Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he's not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top
will dictate the price but 

he's looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Oct 12 12:01:56 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:01:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR6 OEM hardtop value
In-Reply-To: <000501d6a0bf$24736bb0$6d5a4310$@optonline.net>
References: <000501d6a0bf$24736bb0$6d5a4310$@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <1077589593.483087.1602525716829@mail.yahoo.com>

 No idea what they are commanding today but I remember 20-odd years ago you'd be lucky to pick up a good one for a grand.? But a lot depends on the condition.? How's the paint?? How's the headliner?? (That's a big one).? The window seals may be tough to find.? Does it have all the mounting hardware?
 
Dave 

 
 
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Subject: [TR] TR6 OEM hardtop value

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From stevensoslo at aol.com  Mon Oct 12 13:31:53 2020
From: stevensoslo at aol.com (Jim Stevens)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 15:31:53 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator/horn
References: <C0DA5144-8BD7-4EFD-A1F4-3A8EE5EB356D.ref@aol.com>
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Nah? It?s Oslo, where I had been posted as the defense attach?.
However, my OD unit came from SLO.  Bought it on eBay, and my son (a Navy LT in Monterey) came down and picked it up and threw it in his household goods shipment.  Oops, hope you weren?t the losing bidder!  

From levilevi at comcast.net  Tue Oct 13 09:07:59 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:07:59 -0600
Subject: [TR] [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.

Bud


Sent from my Commodore 64

> On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways. 
> 
>> On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net wrote: 
>> 
>>     A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days?
>> I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but
>> he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but
>> he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.
>> Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   
> 
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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Tue Oct 13 08:55:38 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 14:55:38 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug
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When I have installed freeze plugs in the past, I have used a light hammer.  It doesn't need a lot of hammer force to expand it.  I would describe it as a series of light blows applied directly to the domed surface of the plug.  With that in mind, I would think 10" of clearance would be ample for installing the new plug.  The biggest problem will be making sure the seat is clean and undamaged after you remove the old plug.

Mike

Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
Albion Technical Services
W5918 Hackbarth Rd
Fort Atkinson, WI 53538

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Cliff Hansen
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:51 PM
To: Bill Brewer <billbrewer59 at yahoo.com>; Triumphs List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug

I'm guessing you can get the old freeze plug out with a long drift and pair of right-angle pliers.  Installing the new plug, though... 10" isn't much room to swing a hammer to drive in a new plug with a socket. Hard to hit it square with any force.  Maybe make a press with two plates and a piece of all thread?  Push against the firewall to press the plug into place?

There are rubber freeze plugs with a hex nut that turns to expand the plug to fill the hole.

Good luck with the repair.

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Subject: [TR] TR Head Freeze Plug

     So I have a 1953 Morgan with an original Standard Vanguard engine. The engine is very similar to a TR3 engine. It recently blew a head gasket and overheated. I had the head resurfaced and bolted it all back together, started it up and discovered that the freeze plug at the back of the head is leaking now. Dang! Wish that I had thought about that before reassembling... On the Morgan the freeze plug is about 10" away from the firewall and not as close as it is on a TR3. I do not want to pull the head again. Any known tricks on how to get the old plug out and the new plug in without removing the head?
     TIA,

     -Bill Brewer
     Morro Bay, CA

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Tue Oct 13 09:35:43 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:35:43 -0400
Subject: [TR] [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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Bud ? 

    The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.

Dennis   

 

From: Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net>
Cc: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.

 

Bud



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> > wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways. 




On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote: 

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days? 

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but 

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   


  

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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Tue Oct 13 10:42:07 2020
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:42:07 -0400
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
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RIP Michael.

I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments 
were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many 
recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting 
any younger and none of us are immortal.

JVV

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ken Gano via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter

It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a 
long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week 
ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.

About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not 
been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home 
twice.

I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points 
and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or 
saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.

Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around. 
He will be sorely missed.

Ken Gano.



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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct 13 11:14:32 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:14:32 -0500
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
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Didn't he also have a bicycle shop?

We will miss him

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:42 AM
To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter

RIP Michael.

I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting any younger and none of us are immortal.

JVV

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Gano via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter

It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.

About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice.

I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.

Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around. 
He will be sorely missed.

Ken Gano.



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From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk  Tue Oct 13 11:47:37 2020
From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:47:37 +0100
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
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I?m so very sorry to read of this. When I joined the autox lists in the mid nineties, Michael was one of the first to welcome me. In the years that followed we had extensive email contact that was always a pleasure for me to receive. I?ll miss him and I?m sure I won?t be the only one.

Jonmac

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> On 13 Oct 2020, at 18:14, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> Didn't he also have a bicycle shop?
> 
> We will miss him
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:42 AM
> To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
> 
> RIP Michael.
> 
> I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting any younger and none of us are immortal.
> 
> JVV
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Gano via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
> To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter
> 
> It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.
> 
> About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice.
> 
> I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.
> 
> Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around. 
> He will be sorely missed.
> 
> Ken Gano.
> 
> 
> 
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From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Tue Oct 13 12:44:12 2020
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:44:12 +0000
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
In-Reply-To: <C763BA93-700D-4FDD-9B68-5FDC3FA3B716@Ukpips.org.uk>
References: <177E6D05-1518-4DC7-B318-3FB3CF32ACFC@gmail.com>
 <8899539D6C924F439ED42DDCECF20D6B@VlackTK121647>
 <006201d6a184$52014be0$f603e3a0$@ranteer.com>,
 <C763BA93-700D-4FDD-9B68-5FDC3FA3B716@Ukpips.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CY4PR22MB0920049F7B0C2EA1C49FEA36FA040@CY4PR22MB0920.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

I?m very sorry to hear this. We recently traded emails about Roswell as I am considering locating to that area. I was hoping to make a trip down US285 this fall and actually meet him in person. A reminder not to let good intentions remain intentions.


Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: John Macartney<mailto:John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:49 AM
To: dave<mailto:dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: Listserv Triumph<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter

I?m so very sorry to read of this. When I joined the autox lists in the mid nineties, Michael was one of the first to welcome me. In the years that followed we had extensive email contact that was always a pleasure for me to receive. I?ll miss him and I?m sure I won?t be the only one.

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.

> On 13 Oct 2020, at 18:14, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> Didn't he also have a bicycle shop?
>
> We will miss him
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:42 AM
> To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>
> RIP Michael.
>
> I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting any younger and none of us are immortal.
>
> JVV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Gano via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
> To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>
> It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.
>
> About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice.
>
> I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.
>
> Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around.
> He will be sorely missed.
>
> Ken Gano.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Tue Oct 13 12:45:03 2020
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:45:03 +0000
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
In-Reply-To: <006201d6a184$52014be0$f603e3a0$@ranteer.com>
References: <177E6D05-1518-4DC7-B318-3FB3CF32ACFC@gmail.com>
 <8899539D6C924F439ED42DDCECF20D6B@VlackTK121647>,
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I believe that?s Dave Porter in Albuquerque, with the bicycle shop.

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From: dave<mailto:dave at ranteer.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:15 AM
To: 'Listserv Triumph'<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter

Didn't he also have a bicycle shop?

We will miss him

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:42 AM
To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter

RIP Michael.

I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting any younger and none of us are immortal.

JVV

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Gano via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter

It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.

About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice.

I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.

Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around.
He will be sorely missed.

Ken Gano.



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From dave at mdmackay.ca  Tue Oct 13 13:08:33 2020
From: dave at mdmackay.ca (Dave MacKay)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:08:33 -0400
Subject: [TR] Michael D. Porter
Message-ID: <CACHy70tuHKg9971=uqdVXNiUB80p1M3G+gXmaqqdK8yqK8yAtA@mail.gmail.com>

Like so many, I'm also saddened to hear of Michael's passing. Another one
of the stalwarts gone.

RIP

Dave

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue Oct 13 13:13:18 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:13:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
In-Reply-To: <8899539D6C924F439ED42DDCECF20D6B@VlackTK121647>
References: <177E6D05-1518-4DC7-B318-3FB3CF32ACFC@gmail.com>
 <8899539D6C924F439ED42DDCECF20D6B@VlackTK121647>
Message-ID: <381242677.192311.1602616398146@mail.yahoo.com>

 This is most distressing.? I had the pleasure of meeting Michael once but I communicated with him on many occasions and on various topics.? He was one of the smartest people I've had the pleasure to meet.? And always a gentleman.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv at roadrunner.com>
To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, Oct 13, 2020 11:42 am
Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter

RIP Michael.

I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments 
were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many 
recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting 
any younger and none of us are immortal.

JVV

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ken Gano via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter

It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a 
long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week 
ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.

About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not 
been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home 
twice.

I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points 
and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or 
saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.

Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around. 
He will be sorely missed.

Ken Gano.



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From spitlist at cox.net  Tue Oct 13 13:56:25 2020
From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 13:56:25 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR22MB0920049F7B0C2EA1C49FEA36FA040@CY4PR22MB0920.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <177E6D05-1518-4DC7-B318-3FB3CF32ACFC@gmail.com>
 <8899539D6C924F439ED42DDCECF20D6B@VlackTK121647>
 <006201d6a184$52014be0$f603e3a0$@ranteer.com>,
 <C763BA93-700D-4FDD-9B68-5FDC3FA3B716@Ukpips.org.uk>
 <CY4PR22MB0920049F7B0C2EA1C49FEA36FA040@CY4PR22MB0920.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <667029237.11973.1602618985895@myemail.cox.net>

Michael was a good friend, so it is tough to hear this news.  He is the one who did the drawings in the Installation Instructions that I was sending with all the camber compensators I sold in the past 20 years.


So sad to see him go!


Joe C.

> On October 13, 2020 at 12:44 PM Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I?m very sorry to hear this. We recently traded emails about Roswell as I am considering locating to that area. I was hoping to make a trip down US285 this fall and actually meet him in person. A reminder not to let good intentions remain intentions.
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for Windows 10
> 
>      
> 
>     From: John Macartney mailto:John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk
>     Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:49 AM
>     To: dave mailto:dave at ranteer.com
>     Cc: Listserv Triumph mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net
>     Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
> 
>      
> 
>     I?m so very sorry to read of this. When I joined the autox lists in the mid nineties, Michael was one of the first to welcome me. In the years that followed we had extensive email contact that was always a pleasure for me to receive. I?ll miss him and I?m sure I won?t be the only one.
> 
>     Jonmac
> 
>     Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
>     Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.
> 
>     > On 13 Oct 2020, at 18:14, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > Didn't he also have a bicycle shop?
>     >
>     > We will miss him
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Van Vlack
>     > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:42 AM
>     > To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
>     > Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>     >
>     > RIP Michael.
>     >
>     > I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his comments were always well thought through and very accurate. I noticed that not many recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this news. None of us are getting any younger and none of us are immortal.
>     >
>     > JVV
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Ken Gano via Fot
>     > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
>     > To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
>     > Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>     >
>     > It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.
>     >
>     > About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice.
>     >
>     > I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.
>     >
>     > Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around.
>     > He will be sorely missed.
>     >
>     > Ken Gano.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPad
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Tue Oct 13 14:34:50 2020
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 14:34:50 -0600
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
In-Reply-To: <667029237.11973.1602618985895@myemail.cox.net>
References: <177E6D05-1518-4DC7-B318-3FB3CF32ACFC@gmail.com>
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Gents,

 ?This is sad news indeed. I don't want to sound or be insensitive at 
this early date. It seems that Michael recently posted about the doors 
on his GT6 if I recall.. I sent him a message then that should he have 
interest in the future of selling the GT that (being relatively close) I 
was interested. Point being, I still am. Do any of you closer to Michael 
have any idea of it's disposition? I've been on the hunt for a GT for 
some time now... Dave P Albuquerque NM

On 10/13/2020 1:56 PM, JOE CURRY wrote:
>
> Michael was a good friend, so it is tough to hear this news. He is the 
> one who did the drawings in the Installation Instructions that I was 
> sending with all the camber compensators I sold in the past 20 years.
>
>
> So sad to see him go!
>
>
> Joe C.
>
>> On October 13, 2020 at 12:44 PM Cliff Hansen 
>> <cliff_hansen at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> I?m very sorry to hear this. We recently traded emails about Roswell 
>> as I am considering locating to that area. I was hoping to make a 
>> trip down US285 this fall and actually meet him in person. A reminder 
>> not to let good intentions remain intentions.
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
>> Windows 10
>>
>> *From: *John Macartney <mailto:John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:49 AM
>> *To: *dave <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>
>> *Cc: *Listserv Triumph <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>>
>> I?m so very sorry to read of this. When I joined the autox lists in 
>> the mid nineties, Michael was one of the first to welcome me. In the 
>> years that followed we had extensive email contact that was always a 
>> pleasure for me to receive. I?ll miss him and I?m sure I won?t be the 
>> only one.
>>
>> Jonmac
>>
>> Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
>> Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober 
>> but you will still be ugly?.
>>
>> > On 13 Oct 2020, at 18:14, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Didn't he also have a bicycle shop?
>> >
>> > We will miss him
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry 
>> Van Vlack
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:42 AM
>> > To: Ken Gano <1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com>; Listserv Triumph 
>> <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net
>> > Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>> >
>> > RIP Michael.
>> >
>> > I always read his emails and posts to our lists. As you say his 
>> comments were always well thought through and very accurate. I 
>> noticed that not many recent comments were posted. Sad to hear this 
>> news. None of us are getting any younger and none of us are immortal.
>> >
>> > JVV
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ken Gano via Fot
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:28 PM
>> > To: Listserv Triumph ; fot at autox.team.net
>> > Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter
>> >
>> > It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing 
>> of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael 
>> died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.
>> >
>> > About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there 
>> has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has 
>> visited our home twice.
>> >
>> > I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data 
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Tue Oct 13 16:05:43 2020
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:05:43 -0400
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
Message-ID: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>

Just for what it?s worth?..

 

When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.

 

Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!

 

I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.  

 

I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.

 

So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.

 

So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From ahwahneetr at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 16:19:48 2020
From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:19:48 -0700
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
Message-ID: <CANzE1bEMtUKYaJMc2pQCN2=vyF63dRGJsK2QBMFK0H=-M5BKag@mail.gmail.com>

Andrew -

I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will sell
you tires to which they have added redlines:

Diamond Tire -- https://dbtires.com/

Geo

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:

> Just for what it?s worth?..
>
>
>
> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15
> year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided
> I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones
> out for a drive in the car.
>
>
>
> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I
> bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
>
>
>
> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I
> took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble
> persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in
> Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me
> the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.
>
>
>
> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to
> take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The
> Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but
> went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the
> specifications.
>
>
>
> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker
> has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.
>
>
>
> So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the
> redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Tue Oct 13 16:52:09 2020
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:52:09 -0700
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <CANzE1bEMtUKYaJMc2pQCN2=vyF63dRGJsK2QBMFK0H=-M5BKag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
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I think you mean Diamond Back Tires. I bought whitewalls from them for my ?49 TR2000 Roadster. Easy folks to work with and no complaints with the tires ? of course, I am not exactly auto crossing the with them.

 

Bob

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Geo Hahn
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:20 PM
To: Andrew Uprichard
Cc: Triumphs; Triumph 6 Pack
Subject: Re: [TR] A little story about Coker tires

 

Andrew -

 

I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will sell you tires to which they have added redlines:

 

Diamond Tire -- https://dbtires.com/

 

Geo

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:

Just for what it?s worth?..

 

When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.

 

Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!

 

I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.  

 

I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.

 

So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.

 

So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 13 16:55:25 2020
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:55:25 -0500
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <CANzE1bEMtUKYaJMc2pQCN2=vyF63dRGJsK2QBMFK0H=-M5BKag@mail.gmail.com>
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Andrew,
Had to have Coker replace two of the Michelin X tires I recently bought. My local Discount knew just how to measure what they were asking for.  Spent two more months trying to get Coker to issue credit for the returned tires.  

Alan Hendrix recommended Diamondback to me, they added whitewalls to a new set of NanKangs.  No problems, decent prices. NFI

Bill B


#dontkillgrandma

On Oct 13, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Andrew -

I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will sell you tires to which they have added redlines:

Diamond Tire -- https://dbtires.com/

Geo

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM <auprichard at uprichard.net> wrote:
> Just for what it?s worth?..
> 
>  
> 
> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.
> 
>  
> 
> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
> 
>  
> 
> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced. 
> 
>  
> 
> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.
> 
>  
> 
> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.
> 
>  
> 
> So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
> 
>  
> 
> Andrew Uprichard
> 
> Jackson, Michigan
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Tue Oct 13 17:15:22 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
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I guess these are bias-ply tires.  Bias-ply tires are difficult to deal with.  Some say, don't even bother with balancing until they are broken in with say, a few hundred miles on them. They tend to be out-of-round when new.  I had huge problems with two new sets of Hoosier Vintage TD race tires for my TR3.  Around $1200 a set, mounted and balanced.  I drive my car on the street too, so I was able to discover this before getting to the track.  Repeated tries at balancing went nowhere.  I had them "road force balanced" multiple times in attempt to improve the matter.  This machine reads the run-out.   I think 20 was about the number that you would not feel while driving.  None of the tires were under 30 and some were 80.  You didn't need a machine to see how out-of round they were, even at 30.  Terrible.  They really upset a weekend of racing at the Laguna Seca, Rolex Reunion.  The car shook terribly between 60-90 mph.  Above 90 was better.   After the event I called Hoosier and they sent me another set, no charge.  I had to eat the extra attempts at balancing.  The second set was also very bad and a year later, my second Rolex race weekend was equally disappointing.  Hoosier sent a third set, no charge.   This set was excellent.  This event is the only one that I have to run bias-ply race tires.  I've heard from other racers that the much more expensive Dunlops are even worst.  Hoosier did not request the bad sets be sent back.  I have since remounted a couple of lower "road force" numbered tires and they are good now.  So with some wear, they did get better.  
Roger Kraus Racing, tire company, recommended truing these tires by shaving the tread when newly mounted if they are noticeably out-of round and take a lot of weight to balance.  
Happy motoring,
Dave H.

>     On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Just for what it?s worth?..
> 
>      
> 
>     When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.
> 
>      
> 
>     Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
> 
>      
> 
>     I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced. 
> 
>      
> 
>     I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.
> 
>      
> 
>     So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.
> 
>      
> 
>     So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
> 
>      
> 
>     Andrew Uprichard
> 
>     Jackson, Michigan
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From mkutka at icloud.com  Tue Oct 13 17:41:32 2020
From: mkutka at icloud.com (michael kutka)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:41:32 -0400
Subject: [TR] [6pack]  A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <1452695199.3707.1602630922924@connect.xfinity.com>
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Hendrix wire wheel will stripe a more modern tire, true it, etc. one stop shop.

Michael


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 7:17 PM, DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I guess these are bias-ply tires.  Bias-ply tires are difficult to deal with.  Some say, don't even bother with balancing until they are broken in with say, a few hundred miles on them. They tend to be out-of-round when new.  I had huge problems with two new sets of Hoosier Vintage TD race tires for my TR3.  Around $1200 a set, mounted and balanced.  I drive my car on the street too, so I was able to discover this before getting to the track.  Repeated tries at balancing went nowhere.  I had them "road force balanced" multiple times in attempt to improve the matter.  This machine reads the run-out.   I think 20 was about the number that you would not feel while driving.  None of the tires were under 30 and some were 80.  You didn't need a machine to see how out-of round they were, even at 30.  Terrible.  They really upset a weekend of racing at the Laguna Seca, Rolex Reunion.  The car shook terribly between 60-90 mph.  Above 90 was better.   After the event I called Hoosier and they sent me another set, no charge.  I had to eat the extra attempts at balancing.  The second set was also very bad and a year later, my second Rolex race weekend was equally disappointing.  Hoosier sent a third set, no charge.   This set was excellent.  This event is the only one that I have to run bias-ply race tires.  I've heard from other racers that the much more expensive Dunlops are even worst.  Hoosier did not request the bad sets be sent back.  I have since remounted a couple of lower "road force" numbered tires and they are good now.  So with some wear, they did get better.   
> Roger Kraus Racing, tire company, recommended truing these tires by shaving the tread when newly mounted if they are noticeably out-of round and take a lot of weight to balance.  
> Happy motoring,
> Dave H.
>> On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just for what it?s worth?..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew Uprichard
>> 
>> Jackson, Michigan
>> 
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From trguy75 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 09:56:51 2020
From: trguy75 at gmail.com (Jim Henningsen)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:56:51 -0400
Subject: [TR] [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I?ll second that from Bud.  When I took my hardtop off I had two round marks that wouldn?t come off from the round buffers on the bottom of the hardtop.  A few other marks near the mounting rim too, but those were hidden by the convertible top frame.  I?m ok with it as I like going back and forth between the two and am not a concours perfect fanatic.  My 6 is for driving!

Jim Henningsen

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; dctr6 at optonline.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.

 

Bud



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> > wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways. 




On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote: 

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days? 

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but 

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   


  

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From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 10:28:49 2020
From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:28:49 -0500
Subject: [TR] Michael D. Porter
Message-ID: <177E6D05-1518-4DC7-B318-3FB3CF32ACFC@gmail.com>

It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM. 

About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice. 

I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely. 

Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around. He will be sorely missed. 

Ken Gano. 



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From sackirby at chinaautogroup.com  Tue Oct 13 16:29:11 2020
From: sackirby at chinaautogroup.com (Steve Kirby)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:29:11 +0000
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
Message-ID: <1026e6a54c5842bdb44c7d9e81b0e128@chinaautogroup.com>

Balancing wire wheels/tires is truly a dying art.  We have one ?old guy? in the LA area still doing it right.  First you must true the wheel and be sure the spokes are tight.  Then you mount the tire and true it (yes you do cut rubber off a brand new tire).  Then you balance the tire and wheel on the car so that you are balancing out variations in the drum or rotor.  4 tires = $700 including new tubes.  But they ride like butter.

Steve Kirby
President
China Auto Group
22831 Avenida Empresa
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA
Direct:  (949) 261-8208
Fax:  (949) 767-5949
Cell:  (949) 903-0957
Skype: steve.kirby29
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of auprichard at uprichard.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:06 PM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net; 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires

Just for what it?s worth?..

When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.

Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!

I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.

I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.

So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.

So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.

Andrew Uprichard
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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Tue Oct 13 17:17:20 2020
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:17:20 -0700
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
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Coker Red lines .. do you have wire wheels?  Almost no one can balance those, the machines they have cannot align the tires ? But ? there is a company in England that has an adapter that properly aligns them ? Used the adapter to align for TR6 (Coker Red Lines), and TR3 (Coker Micheln X)

The results were perfect.   Just saying.

We did ?Tours? for the last three weekends 300 + miles in the TR6 very smooth (except for bumpy roads).

BTW Moss catalogs show just how wire wheels should be properly mounted.


Bill Pugh


Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars




From ahwahneetr at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 16:34:06 2020
From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:34:06 -0700
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
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References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
Message-ID: <CANzE1bHEOo-AVyO2sUeVatzSiEqyFva7hzrhWZWZAEjO161Nig@mail.gmail.com>

As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and
have driven about 7,000 miles with them:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[image: image.png]

Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after
the tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).

I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that I
couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.

Geo
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 17:18:54 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:18:54 -0700
Subject: [TR] Regarding Triumph variants
Message-ID: <CANLCLaEzS+exZNt=yY3a5deVHrReCfbHHYaBP8sitBQVy5EdyA@mail.gmail.com>

I recall in the UK new models or variants came out mid year. I'm thinking
that in the US new models came out at the beginning of the year. Correct me
if I am wrong.
If this was the case, I'm assuming a Mk2 Stag was released in the UK mid
year. Would US customers get the Mk2 earlier?
How did Triumph release new models for each region?

Sujit


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From dave1massey at cs.com  Wed Oct 14 18:09:05 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 00:09:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Regarding Triumph variants
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaEzS+exZNt=yY3a5deVHrReCfbHHYaBP8sitBQVy5EdyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANLCLaEzS+exZNt=yY3a5deVHrReCfbHHYaBP8sitBQVy5EdyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1870675947.597883.1602720545482@mail.yahoo.com>

 When I was a kid the new models came out somewhere in the September/October time frame.? I thought it was odd since the year didn't start until January.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2020 6:18 pm
Subject: [TR] Regarding Triumph variants

I recall in the?UK new models?or variants came out mid year. I'm thinking that in the US new models came out at the beginning?of the year. Correct me if I am wrong.If this was the case, I'm assuming?a Mk2 Stag was released?in the UK mid year. Would US customers get the Mk2 earlier??How did Triumph release?new models for each region?
Sujit


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From john at linneyweb.com  Wed Oct 14 18:21:31 2020
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:21:31 -0700
Subject: [TR] Regarding Triumph variants
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The new registration letter came out halfway into the year so as to even out demand for the new models that were usually available starting in September / October. Everyone wanted the ?M? reg. cars rather than the ?L? regs. If the letter change also coincided with new models, then literally no-one would buy the old stock. Growing up next to Longbridge I remember they would retool and restock for the new models during industrial fortnight in August while the plant was also being cleaned and repaired.

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:10 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> When I was a kid the new models came out somewhere in the September/October time frame.  I thought it was odd since the year didn't start until January.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com>
> To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2020 6:18 pm
> Subject: [TR] Regarding Triumph variants
> 
> I recall in the UK new models or variants came out mid year. I'm thinking that in the US new models came out at the beginning of the year. Correct me if I am wrong.
> If this was the case, I'm assuming a Mk2 Stag was released in the UK mid year. Would US customers get the Mk2 earlier? 
> How did Triumph release new models for each region?
> 
> Sujit
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
> 
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From ccsimonsen at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 07:26:54 2020
From: ccsimonsen at gmail.com (Chris Simo)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 09:26:54 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
Message-ID: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>

My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger
on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position
switch and an analog meter.

This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is
connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is
I"m not sure I trust it.

I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my
truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed
bad as well....

I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's
cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....

Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with
those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?

Thanks!
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 15 07:38:08 2020
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:38:08 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Call the manufacturer and ask them if it is telling you if a known good battery Is  bad. 

If it?s like my new Shumacher(sp?) charger it require some juice to work.  If the battery is 100% flat, it won?t see it.  Also, you cannot use as a power supply while bench testing anything.   It does have the Reddit?s that tell you what the voltage it or the percentage of charge.  

I?ll buy a conventional style next time.  

My two cents,
Bill B

#dontkillgrandma

On Oct 15, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com> wrote:

?
My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.

This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.

I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....

I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....

Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?

Thanks!
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 07:40:59 2020
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:40:59 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFtw3aZwiyQKPmXzymp2Ffh9-yORZtNTmGh3WR=hAWJDkwgA9w@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know that I trust the modern battery chargers, but I also don't
trust modern batteries.  After having many batteries last for ten years or
more in the 90s and 2000s, I have replaced all the replacement batteries I
bought for those long lived batteries shortly after the warranty is up.
The last one was like two months past the 3 years, used in a daily driven
car with a good charging system.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 8:30 AM Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com> wrote:

> My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery
> charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3
> position switch and an analog meter.
>
> This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is
> connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is
> I"m not sure I trust it.
>
> I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my
> truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed
> bad as well....
>
> I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's
> cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
>
> Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with
> those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?
>
> Thanks!
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 07:47:33 2020
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 08:47:33 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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My only issue was with a Motorcycle battery.   I think the charger I was
using was trying too hard to desulfate and killed the battery (only 2 years
old).  Since then I only plug in the bike for a few days each month.  All
the rest I have left plugged in for long periods of time without issue.  My
chargers are "smart" but not so smart that they will tell me a battery is
bad.  That being said, I have had a few batteries go bad in the past few
years.  The last few I have bought for various vehicles only seem to last
about two years.  I tried expensive ones and cheap ones, none seem to make
it past 24 months.  It may be just that the batteries being sold these days
are junk.  The one in my Spitfire is almost 10 years old and still starts
the car every time.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 8:30 AM Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com> wrote:

> My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery
> charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3
> position switch and an analog meter.
>
> This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is
> connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is
> I"m not sure I trust it.
>
> I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my
> truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed
> bad as well....
>
> I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's
> cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
>
> Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with
> those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?
>
> Thanks!
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Thu Oct 15 08:06:36 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:06:36 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <D4F18004-DE68-428D-AF61-6962EAED06E3@yahoo.com>
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I agree with Bill - get a conventional style next time, if you can find one. Even my local NAPA man said to buy an old charger and have it repaired rather than buy a "new, improved, new technology, it's faster, more efficient, easier, etc., etc." type of charger. I laugh when I see newer, fancier chargers with all of these different settings that recognize all of the different battery types - does the vehicle's alternator have all of those settings????

Use an old style charger and just monitor with a volt meter. 

Alex Thomson

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bill beecher
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:38 AM
To: Chris Simo
Cc: list Triumph
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

Call the manufacturer and ask them if it is telling you if a known good battery Is  bad. 

If it?s like my new Shumacher(sp?) charger it require some juice to work.  If the battery is 100% flat, it won?t see it.  Also, you cannot use as a power supply while bench testing anything.   It does have the Reddit?s that tell you what the voltage it or the percentage of charge.  

I?ll buy a conventional style next time.  

My two cents,
Bill B

#dontkillgrandma

On Oct 15, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com> wrote:

?
My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.

This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.

I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....

I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....

Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?

Thanks!
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 15 08:29:59 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 14:29:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1104890658.737326.1602772199140@mail.yahoo.com>

 What model is it?? I've looked at quite a few chargers and I am familiar with several, some of which I will never use again, others are great for some applications and not others, but most are really good.? But some have features others don't have.? Some just charge the battery, others will evaluate the battery.? How they make a determination that a battery is bad is pretty much up for grabs.? Did it tell you immediately the battery is bad or did it make the determination after a charge cycle?? Is it settable for the battery chemistry?? Lots of questions.
 
Dave 

 
 
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From: Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com>
To: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 8:26 am
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles

My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.? ?I put my new battery charger on it -? It's all electronic? vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.
This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,? light a light with a bad battery, etc.? Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.
I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries?are bad.? I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,? and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....
I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.? It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
Or they just sat so long they died.....? ? ?Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?? Any issues or concerns?
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From ccsimonsen at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 08:38:15 2020
From: ccsimonsen at gmail.com (Chris Simo)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:38:15 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery cut off switch was  TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
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when using the switch turn the knob firmly when reconnecting the battery in
to the circuit.

I have a friend, who was burning up the disconnect switches regularly and
getting stranded.   He did not tighten firmly and the switch was arcing.
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 15 09:08:24 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:08:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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 The old style chargers MUST be monitored, especially with newer batteries.? If you leave it hooked up too long you will boil off the electrolyte.? How long?? Depends on the state of charge.? What is the state of charge?? Is it 50%, 25%, 75%?? You can figure that out if you take an open circuit voltage reading, adjust for temperature and look it up on a chart.? Then guess how long to set the timer.
Or take a voltage reading periodically and don't forget to turn it off.? 

Yes, the alternator doesn't do the three-phase charge regimen but it does regulate the voltage to 14 volts.? The old school chargers are just a transformer and a rectifier and when the battery achieves full charge the voltage will continue to rise and boil off the electrolyte.? The smart chargers will self-regulate to prevent that.? But if you want to babysit you charger by all means knock yourself out.

I am in the business of battery powered transport devices for medical equipment and patient transport and we use a lot of chargers to recharge the AGM batteries we use to power the devices and they work quite well and are well suited to the end users who will just plug them in and walk away for the weekend.? An old-school charger just simply will not work for us.

Hooking up a faulty battery to a smart charger and getting unsatisfactory results doesn't mean the charger is at fault.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net>
To: 'bill beecher' <notakitcar at yahoo.com>; 'Chris Simo' <ccsimonsen at gmail.com>
Cc: 'list Triumph' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 9:06 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

I agree with Bill - get a conventional style next time, if you can find one. Even my local NAPA man said to buy an old charger and have it repaired rather than buy a "new, improved, new technology, it's faster, more efficient, easier, etc., etc." type of charger. I laugh when I see newer, fancier chargers with all of these different settings that recognize all of the different battery types - does the vehicle's alternator have all of those settings????

Use an old style charger and just monitor with a volt meter. 

Alex Thomson

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bill beecher
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 9:38 AM
To: Chris Simo
Cc: list Triumph
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

Call the manufacturer and ask them if it is telling you if a known good battery Is? bad. 

If it?s like my new Shumacher(sp?) charger it require some juice to work.? If the battery is 100% flat, it won?t see it.? Also, you cannot use as a power supply while bench testing anything.? It does have the Reddit?s that tell you what the voltage it or the percentage of charge.? 

I?ll buy a conventional style next time.? 

My two cents,
Bill B

#dontkillgrandma

On Oct 15, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com> wrote:

?
My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.? I put my new battery charger on it -? It's all electronic? vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.

This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,? light a light with a bad battery, etc.? Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.

I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.? I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,? and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....

I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.? It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....

Or they just sat so long they died.....? ? Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?? Any issues or concerns?

Thanks!
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 15 09:12:12 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:12:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Battery cut off switch was TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
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 Good point.? I haven't burned any switches but I have had one disconnect occasionally and I needed to unscrew it a bit and re-tighten it to restore power.? Then I had to reprogram my radio presets :-(? And reset the clock.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 9:38 am
Subject: [TR] Battery cut off switch was TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

when using the switch turn the knob firmly when reconnecting the battery in to the circuit.? ?
I have a friend, who was burning up the disconnect switches regularly and getting stranded.? ?He did not tighten firmly and the switch was arcing.


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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 15 09:15:35 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:15:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <CANuE7YC_AVdmZ_ch2cH9sOiyCMbZxtxyvu544ciLoUkXQmsj5w@mail.gmail.com>
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 The desulfate mode only kicks in when the battery is deeply discharged.? With these new batteries a deep discharge condition will make the battery suspect.? They don't tolerate this well at all.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com>
To: Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com>
Cc: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 8:47 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

My only issue was with a Motorcycle battery.?? I think the charger I was using was trying too hard to desulfate and killed the battery (only 2 years old).? Since then I only plug in the bike for a few days each month.? All the rest I have left plugged in for long periods of time without issue.? My chargers are "smart" but not so smart that they will tell me a battery is bad.? That being said, I have had a few batteries go bad in the past few years.? The last few I have bought for various vehicles only seem to last about two years.? I tried expensive ones and cheap ones, none seem to make it past 24 months.? It may be just that the batteries being sold these days are junk.? The one in my Spitfire is almost 10 years old and still starts the car every time.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 8:30 AM Chris Simo <ccsimonsen at gmail.com> wrote:

My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.? ?I put my new battery charger on it -? It's all electronic? vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.
This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,? light a light with a bad battery, etc.? Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.
I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries?are bad.? I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,? and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....
I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.? It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
Or they just sat so long they died.....? ? ?Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?? Any issues or concerns?
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From joemato at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 15 09:41:25 2020
From: joemato at sbcglobal.net (JOSEPH MATO)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:41:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fw: Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 275
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The headlights normally draw more than the horn because they are on continuously whereas the horns are usually beeped once or twice. However, I haven't driven at night and I honk every time I go by the car.
Joe Mato 


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Today's Topics:

? 1. Alternator/horn (Jim Stevens)
? 2. Online Sprint and Midget parts catelogue (Sujit Roy)
? 3. TR6 OEM hardtop value (dctr6 at optonline.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 14:31:21 -0400
From: Jim Stevens <stevensoslo at aol.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Alternator/horn
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Bill- I?ve read that after the starter motor the horns are the largest load. Hence their separate circuit.? My guess is that when the horns shorted, that overloaded the alternator circuit.? Might you have the dummy control unit with built in fuse?? ( I didn?t look to see what model you have)

Jim


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 09:37:01 -0700
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Online Sprint and Midget parts catelogue
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Not Triumph, but maybe useful

https://www.scottysretroworkshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/AKM0036.pdf

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Cupertino, California

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:42:55 -0400
From: <dctr6 at optonline.net>
To: <triumphs at autox.team.net>,??? <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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? ? A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 - Any idea what these
are going for these days? 

I've not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones
(Parrish? $450? - $700) but 

he's not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top
will dictate the price but 

he's looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/? 1976 TR6 CF57948U? 

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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Thu Oct 15 10:04:36 2020
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:04:36 -0400
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <CANzE1bHEOo-AVyO2sUeVatzSiEqyFva7hzrhWZWZAEjO161Nig@mail.gmail.com>
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	I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.  I had the wheels serviced by New England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3 years back.  After many years of use the wheels were true and did not require any adjustment.  On the advice of the owner I got new tiers from Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and mounted by, New England Wheel Specialty.  I then had a persistent shimmy.  I got the wheels rebalanced a couple of times and finally one tech told me that one tire was out of round.  One thing that did help was using the old fashion rim weighs in place if adhesive  weights used on the inside of the rim. After a couple of thousand miles on the new tires the shimmy has become almost imperceptible.
	 Fast forward to this summer.  I needed a new set of tires for my truck and my go mechanic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My mechanic mounted them and when I got them home notice that the raised lettering was defective on 2 of the tires. That did it for me.  I will now only buy tires and other hard to return items form local dealers.  In both of these cases, if the tires were bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had them replaced.  I  know that getting period correct tires locally is almost impossible, but for me, I?m stricken local even if I have to give up a little originality.
	BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to balance wire wheels on modern balancing machines, but the cost is north of $400.00-sometimes close enough is good enough. 
	Best,
	Bob
	?72 TR6
> On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and have driven about 7,000 miles with them:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
> 
> <image.png>
> 
> Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after the tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).
> 
> I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that I couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.
> 
> Geo
>  
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 15 10:57:24 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:57:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Fw: Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 275
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 If you use your horn more than 1/2 a second at a time you will be considered antisocial.? I figure the usage for a horn is about 1/google%.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 10:41 am
Subject: [TR] Fw: Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 275

The headlights normally draw more than the horn because they are on continuously whereas the horns are usually beeped once or twice. However, I haven't driven at night and I honk every time I go by the car.
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Thu Oct 15 11:51:32 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:32 -0700
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
In-Reply-To: <6C16DF59-BFC8-4578-8EB4-F97FDD24FE61@comcast.net>
References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
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 <6C16DF59-BFC8-4578-8EB4-F97FDD24FE61@comcast.net>
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I believe that Moss lists the allowable runout of a new wire wheel to be .090".  That plus an inner tube, plus bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for problems.  Keeping them clean is another problems.  But, nothing looks better than wires on a TR or any classic British sports car.  Panasports or Silverstones or something similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good option.  
Dave H. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 	I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.  I had the wheels serviced by New England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3 years back.  After many years of use the wheels were true and did not require any adjustment.  On the advice of the owner I got new tiers from Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and mounted by, New England Wheel Specialty.  I then had a persistent shimmy.  I got the wheels rebalanced a couple of times and finally one tech told me that one tire was out of round.  One thing that did help was using the old fashion rim weighs in place if adhesive  weights used on the inside of the rim. After a couple of thousand miles on the new tires the shimmy has become almost imperceptible.
> 	 Fast forward to this summer.  I needed a new set of tires for my truck and my go mechanic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My mechanic mounted them and when I got them home notice that the raised lettering was defective on 2 of the tires. That did it for me.  I will now only buy tires and other hard to return items form local dealers.  In both of these cases, if the tires were bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had them replaced.  I  know that getting period correct tires locally is almost impossible, but for me, I?m stricken local even if I have to give up a little originality.
> 	BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to balance wire wheels on modern balancing machines, but the cost is north of $400.00-sometimes close enough is good enough. 
> 	Best,
> 	Bob
> 	?72 TR6
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and have driven about 7,000 miles with them:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> 
>> <image.png>
>> 
>> Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after the tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).
>> 
>> I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that I couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.
>> 
>> Geo
>>  
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Oct 15 12:06:43 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:06:43 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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Funny you should mention this.

 

I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It still works great.

 

I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few years.

 

If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and let it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new tech!

 

 

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Simo
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM
To: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles

 

My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.

 

This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.

 

I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....

 

I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....

 

Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?

 

Thanks!

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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Thu Oct 15 12:20:15 2020
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:20:15 -0700
Subject: [TR] A little story about Coker tires
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References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
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 <6C16DF59-BFC8-4578-8EB4-F97FDD24FE61@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <F40DD785-B633-4572-9D88-575D9B170726@comcast.net>

BTW I have an adaptor ? happy to lend it out ?no charge, just pay mail?both ways.

It is simple and it works, you will have to get your dealer to put it on his machine




> On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Dave <dlhogye at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I believe that Moss lists the allowable runout of a new wire wheel to be .090".  That plus an inner tube, plus bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for problems.  Keeping them clean is another problems.  But, nothing looks better than wires on a TR or any classic British sports car.  Panasports or Silverstones or something similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good option.  
> Dave H. 
> 
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From ryel at mac.com  Thu Oct 15 12:28:42 2020
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:28:42 -0700
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <003a01d6a31d$f0e61d40$d2b257c0$@ranteer.com>
References: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or two.  What a pain.

In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem.

So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7 https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1 <https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar+battery+tester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=8-3&th=1>
No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.  

You don?t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn?t need to be fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still works great.

Good luck,

Rye Livingston
Activities Chairman
Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
1960 Triumph TR3A
PH: 530-FIND-RYE


 

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> Funny you should mention this.
>  
> I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It still works great.
>  
> I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few years.
>  
> If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and let it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new tech!
>  
>  
>  
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Simo
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM
> To: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
>  
> My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.
>  
> This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.
>  
> I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....
>  
> I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
>  
> Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?
>  
> Thanks!
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
> 
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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 12:37:22 2020
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 14:37:22 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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References: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Rye;

I've been ysing my Battery Tender + for long periods, over the years, and
have never had it cook a battety....

Dave

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 2:31 PM Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:

> Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end
> Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a
> battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised
> to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or
> two.  What a pain.
>
> In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to
> charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that
> comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to
> a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no
> problem.
>
> So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy
> tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7
> https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1
> <https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar+battery+tester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=8-3&th=1>
> No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.
>
> You don?t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn?t need to be
> fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of
> battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you
> the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown
> away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I
> think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still
> works great.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> Funny you should mention this.
>
> I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around
> 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It still works
> great.
>
> I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few
> years.
>
> If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and let
> it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new tech!
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Simo
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM
> *To:* list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] Battery troubles
>
> My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery
> charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3
> position switch and an analog meter.
>
> This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is
> connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is
> I"m not sure I trust it.
>
> I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my
> truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed
> bad as well....
>
> I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's
> cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
>
> Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with
> those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?
>
> Thanks!
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 12:43:17 2020
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:43:17 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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Solar is an OLD name in battery chargers and testers.  Basically it is the
good stuff.  I remember our local service station (remember those) had a
big rolling Solar brand battery test cart.  Would charge or test anything
from a 6v motorcycle battery all the way up to a 24v semi-truck battery.
When that station finally closed my dad went to the auction and tried to
buy that rig.  I don't know how much it went for but I know he came home
empty handed.

It was a Battery tender brand unit (Junior model) that cooked the
motorcycle battery, but I have been using these and a 4-bank battery tender
plus on my Triumphs for years without issue.  It seems to me they only tend
to cause issues with smaller batteries.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:

> Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end
> Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a
> battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised
> to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or
> two.  What a pain.
>
> In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to
> charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that
> comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to
> a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no
> problem.
>
> So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy
> tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7
> https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1
> <https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar+battery+tester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=8-3&th=1>
> No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.
>
> You don?t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn?t need to be
> fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of
> battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you
> the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown
> away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I
> think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still
> works great.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> Funny you should mention this.
>
> I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around
> 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It still works
> great.
>
> I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few
> years.
>
> If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and let
> it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new tech!
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Simo
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM
> *To:* list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] Battery troubles
>
> My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery
> charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3
> position switch and an analog meter.
>
> This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is
> connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is
> I"m not sure I trust it.
>
> I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my
> truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed
> bad as well....
>
> I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's
> cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
>
> Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with
> those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?
>
> Thanks!
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Thu Oct 15 13:45:19 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:45:19 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
In-Reply-To: <EC9046BB-8FA9-43FB-A669-71D78458DF33@mac.com>
References: <CANhzkeNKPCEcMhQv0HKg_Hccu5QcjVYd+wm1a5gJUO3AfG_OUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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We had an electric Hustler zero-turn mower for a while at a Nature Center that I work at. It was a donation so we didn?t complain ? but? The supplied battery charger would boil the batteries out in a month or so. Re-watering the batteries (four group 31?s) every month was a real pain.

 

As John mentioned, Solar is an old name in chargers ? I have a wheeled unit that?s suitable for 6 and 12 volt batteries with 4 levels of charge rate along with a timer. Like so many old companies, they are now part of another group, I believe.

 

I also have a LaMarche float charger that came from a standby generator ? It?s only rated for about 5 amp but I can leave it on a small or big battery for months if I want. I?m sure new ones are not cheap!

 

https://www.lamarchemfg.com/

 

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rye Livingston
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:29 PM
To: dave
Cc: list Triumph
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

 

Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or two.  What a pain.

 

In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem.

 

So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7 https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3 <https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar+battery+tester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=8-3&th=1> &dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1

No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.  

 

You don?t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn?t need to be fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still works great.

 

Good luck,

 

Rye Livingston

Activities Chairman

Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club

1960 Triumph TR3A

PH: 530-FIND-RYE

 

 

 





On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

 

Funny you should mention this.

 

I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It still works great.

 

I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few years.

 

If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and let it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new tech!

 

 

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Simo
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM
To: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles

 

My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.

 

This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.

 

I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....

 

I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....

 

Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?

 

Thanks!

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 15 13:55:57 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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 There are many different chargers available.? You can get a smart charger for $35 but I wouldn't trust it.? I bought one one a trip once (I was desperate) and it crapped out after a couple of months.? I have also bought some trickle chargers for around $10.? Don't know why.? 

Over the years we have bought probably a thousand chargers from a company called Chargetek.? We've had one fail on us.? I don't know if they are available retail but the CT500 is bullet proof.? The only down side is it won't charge a dead battery.? It won't start charging if battery voltage is below 8 volts.
Marinco chargers are available retail and quite popular with the boating set.? These are good chargers and I recommend them.
I have a pair of CTEK 3300 model.? It works well but you have to select the battery type each time it is plugged in.? Since our chargers are buried in the unit we need a charger that will just start charging when it is plugged in.
We are evaluating a charger from NOCO.? Too soon to offer a recommendation but it looks promising.? 
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

Two points. ?I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time. ?I was advised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or two. ?What a pain.
In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batteries. ?I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries. ?I upgraded to a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem.
So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy tool is excellent. ?SOLAR BA7 https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar. ?
You don?t have to disconnect your battery. ?Battery doesn?t need to be fully charged to test it. ?You just connect it and enter it what kind of battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has. ?I was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still works great.
Good luck,
Rye LivingstonActivities ChairmanTriumph Travelers Sports Car Club1960 Triumph TR3APH: 530-FIND-RYE


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From stephen.nutt at sympatico.ca  Thu Oct 15 15:29:48 2020
From: stephen.nutt at sympatico.ca (Stephen Nutt)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:29:48 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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I have a TecMate Desulfating Charger + Tester that I have used with my Triumph Bonneville motorcycle since new. It is left connected all winter and I have never had a problem.  Also use it occasionally on my TR5. 

Stephen Nutt. 

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 3:55 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> There are many different chargers available.  You can get a smart charger for $35 but I wouldn't trust it.  I bought one one a trip once (I was desperate) and it crapped out after a couple of months.  I have also bought some trickle chargers for around $10.  Don't know why.  
> 
> Over the years we have bought probably a thousand chargers from a company called Chargetek.  We've had one fail on us.  I don't know if they are available retail but the CT500 is bullet proof.  The only down side is it won't charge a dead battery.  It won't start charging if battery voltage is below 8 volts.
> 
> Marinco chargers are available retail and quite popular with the boating set.  These are good chargers and I recommend them.
> 
> I have a pair of CTEK 3300 model.  It works well but you have to select the battery type each time it is plugged in.  Since our chargers are buried in the unit we need a charger that will just start charging when it is plugged in.
> 
> We are evaluating a charger from NOCO.  Too soon to offer a recommendation but it looks promising.  
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
> To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
> Cc: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 1:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles
> 
> Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or two.  What a pain.
> 
> In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem.
> 
> So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7 https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1
> No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.  
> 
> You don?t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn?t need to be fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still works great.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
> 
> 
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Fri Oct 16 05:47:42 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 07:47:42 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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ChargeTek has an interesting website ? Lots to be learned there. Same with NOCO.

 

For testing batteries, I still prefer a carbon-pile load tester. Years ago, I had an Allyn 500 amp tester in my Ag shop at school that worked great. I don?t think they are around anymore so I bought a Solar brand unit when it was on sale at my local Napa dealer.

 

https://cloreautomotive.com/product/1874/

 

I think it was around $90.

 

With 2 trucks, 3 cars, 3 garden tractors and 9 farm tractors, I have found using it helpful when diagnosing batteries, charging systems, etc.

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:56 PM
To: ryel at mac.com; dave at ranteer.com
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

 

There are many different chargers available.  You can get a smart charger for $35 but I wouldn't trust it.  I bought one one a trip once (I was desperate) and it crapped out after a couple of months.  I have also bought some trickle chargers for around $10.  Don't know why.  

 

Over the years we have bought probably a thousand chargers from a company called Chargetek.  We've had one fail on us.  I don't know if they are available retail but the CT500 is bullet proof.  The only down side is it won't charge a dead battery.  It won't start charging if battery voltage is below 8 volts.

 

Marinco chargers are available retail and quite popular with the boating set.  These are good chargers and I recommend them.

 

I have a pair of CTEK 3300 model.  It works well but you have to select the battery type each time it is plugged in.  Since our chargers are buried in the unit we need a charger that will just start charging when it is plugged in.

 

We are evaluating a charger from NOCO.  Too soon to offer a recommendation but it looks promising.  

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: list Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or two.  What a pain. 

 

In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem. 

 

So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7 https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3 <https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar+battery+tester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=8-3&th=1> &dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1

No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.  

 

You don?t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn?t need to be fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it?s rated for, and it tells you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I think it?s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still works great.

 

Good luck,

 

Rye Livingston

Activities Chairman

Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club

1960 Triumph TR3A

PH: 530-FIND-RYE

 

 

 

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From ahwahneetr at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 07:31:43 2020
From: ahwahneetr at gmail.com (Geo Hahn)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 06:31:43 -0700
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 11:07 AM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> ...I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them)
> around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It
> still works great...
>
My Kmart charger has been in service since 1971.  For the past 20 years it
has been the power source for a light and two exhaust fans in our cabin
outhouse.

Just hanging from a hook under the deck it has been operating 24/7 most
months for two decades.

They really don't build stuff like that anymore.

Geo

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 16 07:33:31 2020
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:33:31 +0000
Subject: [TR] Dustless Blasting
Message-ID: <BL0PR02MB4514A10E9FA782DDBA0E0179BA030@BL0PR02MB4514.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Has anybody used Dustless Blasting process on a restoration? Any input would be appreciated.

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From dos_gusanos at msn.com  Fri Oct 16 09:13:51 2020
From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 15:13:51 +0000
Subject: [TR] [Fot] Michael D. Porter
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Michael came to Albuquerque and photographed the epic road race in 2000.  Epic as he was able to record all the awesome wipeouts that were happening all over the track.  I will miss him and am sorry to hear of this loss.

Henry Morrison

Salt Lake City, UT


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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 10:28 AM
To: Listserv Triumph <triumphs at autox.team.net>; fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Michael D. Porter

It is with great sadness that I must pass along news of the passing of a long term list member and contributor, Michael Porter. Michael died a week ago Saturday in his home in Roswell, NM.

About 20 years ago we started playing on line Scrabble and there has not been a day since when we did not exchange emails. He has visited our home twice.

I recall trying to set up Weber carbs and Michael taking three data points and recommending jetting that turned out to be spot on. He never heard or saw the car run but was able to ?do the math? remotely.

Michael was a great friend and one of the most knowledgeable people around. He will be sorely missed.

Ken Gano.



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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 16 12:26:54 2020
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:26:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Dustless Blasting
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 i did not use it on my car, but i observed it being done to a club members car.
the operator did minimal tarping of my friends house. large home, large'ish garden.blasting was done on his lawn.while it says dustless, the over-spray did go a long way. 2nd floor got lots of coverage. and as its wet and then dries quickly it took some cleaning.
the results were good.? well, except where it exposed the rust. laugh
just put plenty of covering if your close to the house.

Frank



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  Has anybody used Dustless Blasting process on a restoration? Any input would be appreciated.
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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Fri Oct 16 21:34:48 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:34:48 -0400
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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   I had my original alternator rebuilt by a local shop (Orange Auto Electric in Newburgh, NY).  That alternator tested at 14+ volts (as opposed to the 13+ I was getting out of the 2 previously purchased rebuilds) and we are now getting 13+ at the battery even under load. Yes, it?s ?supposed? to be 14.2 but it?s better than 12 and it appears to be sufficient to charge the battery. At this point I?m keeping my eye on the voltmeter (Funny aside here: Through all this, we never thought to look at the voltmeter) and will occasionally check the battery but I?m hoping that this episode is over.  I now know more about alternators than I ever thought I?d have to.  I?m assuming that the other 2 alternators may not have been rebuilt correctly.

    Thanks to Dick, Robert, Richard, Dave, John, David, Bob, Rob, Gene, Steve, Brian, Ron, Victor, Robert, Michael, Jim and anybody/everybody else that chipped in with suggestions.  I appreciate it.

Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U  

 

From: mohawktriumphs <mohawktriumphs at aol.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 5:44 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

What ever fixed the no charge ?



Sent from my ASUS Pad

dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote:

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

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From islandgirl.sausalito at gmail.com  Sat Oct 17 13:24:50 2020
From: islandgirl.sausalito at gmail.com (Frank Burkhart)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 12:24:50 -0700
Subject: [TR] [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Rather than trusting the somewhat vague voltmeter on my ?75 TR6, I installed a USB connector that has a LED voltage readout included.  As the speedometer on my TR6 doesn?t work (another story), I plug in my iPhone into one of the USB ports and run a speedometer app.  Not perfect but much better than no speedometer if you really need to know.  I hard wired in the unit, some work by plugging into the ?cigarette lighter? outlet.  When I turn on the ignition, before starting, the readout gives me battery voltage, usually about 12.5 volts.  Once the car is started, the readout is the alternator output - starting at around 14.1 at startup and dropping down to around 13.4 after the car has been running for awhile.  Cost is around $14.00 on Amazon (dual USB charge socket with LED voltmeter and wire fuse kit).


Frank Burkhart



> On Oct 16, 2020, at 8:34 PM, dctr6 at optonline.net wrote:
> 
>    I had my original alternator rebuilt by a local shop (Orange Auto Electric in Newburgh, NY).  That alternator tested at 14+ volts (as opposed to the 13+ I was getting out of the 2 previously purchased rebuilds) and we are now getting 13+ at the battery even under load. Yes, it?s ?supposed? to be 14.2 but it?s better than 12 and it appears to be sufficient to charge the battery. At this point I?m keeping my eye on the voltmeter (Funny aside here: Through all this, we never thought to look at the voltmeter) and will occasionally check the battery but I?m hoping that this episode is over.  I now know more about alternators than I ever thought I?d have to.  I?m assuming that the other 2 alternators may not have been rebuilt correctly.
>     Thanks to Dick, Robert, Richard, Dave, John, David, Bob, Rob, Gene, Steve, Brian, Ron, Victor, Robert, Michael, Jim and anybody/everybody else that chipped in with suggestions.  I appreciate it.
> Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U  
>  
> From: mohawktriumphs <mohawktriumphs at aol.com <mailto:mohawktriumphs at aol.com>> 
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 5:44 PM
> To: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>
> Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
>  
> What ever fixed the no charge ?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my ASUS Pad
> 
> dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
>    Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??
> Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 
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From spamiam at comcast.net  Sat Oct 17 13:58:14 2020
From: spamiam at comcast.net (Anthony Rhodes)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:58:14 -0400
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Well, 13.x is still not right. Can you check the voltage between the output stud on the alternator and somewhere on the body of the alternator.  

If the measures voltage is the same then the alternator is still not good. 

If the voltage At the alternator is around 14.3 or 14.4 then the alternator is TRYING to give the right voltage net there is either a bad ground somewhere or there is a bad Positive connection somewhere between the battery and the alternator.  

-Tony

> 
> On Oct 17, 2020, at 2:03 PM, triumphs-request at autox.team.net wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:34:48 -0400
> From: <dctr6 at optonline.net>
> To: "'mohawktriumphs'" <mohawktriumphs at aol.com>
> Cc: <triumphs at autox.team.net>,    <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
> Message-ID: <008101d6a436$7818aa80$6849ff80$@optonline.net>
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>   I had my original alternator rebuilt by a local shop (Orange Auto Electric in Newburgh, NY).  That alternator tested at 14+ volts (as opposed to the 13+ I was getting out of the 2 previously purchased rebuilds) and we are now getting 13+ at the battery even under load. Yes, it?s ?supposed? to be 14.2 but it?s better than 12 and it appears to be sufficient to charge the battery. At this point I?m keeping my eye on the voltmeter (Funny aside here: Through all this, we never thought to look at the voltmeter) and will occasionally check the battery but I?m hoping that this episode is over.  I now know more about alternators than I ever thought I?d have to.  I?m assuming that the other 2 alternators may not have been rebuilt correctly.


From lee at automate-it.com  Mon Oct 19 10:18:37 2020
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:18:37 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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Wow, mentioning the KMart charger made me walk out to the shop... yep,
she's still there, still in the original box with the Kmart price
sticker - but I can't read it. Forty years and counting, still works. I
have several others (the late model BatteryMINDer is probably the
favorite for me) but the old analog standby still comes in handy. And
yes, the label says "3 AMP" - but if that analog gauge is correct, it
pegs right up to the 6A level when first attached to a unit in need of a
lot of juice. 

 - Lee

On 2020-10-15 13:06, dave wrote: 

> Funny you should mention this.
> 
> I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them)
> around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It
> still works great.
> 
> I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a
> few years.
> 
> If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and
> let it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new
> tech!
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Mon Oct 19 11:45:29 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:45:29 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery troubles
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I had one like that many years ago but it said ?Wizard? on the front since I bought it at a Western Auto store. Mine was a 3 amp unit, as well.  

 

After seeing that picture, I couldn?t resist taking pictures of my other older chargers. The top charger is blue and labeled ?Ford? but they were available from IH and Deere dealers, as well with appropriate logos. Comparing it to the machine in the bottom of the picture, I would say it?s a safe bet to assume it was made by Solar.

 

I use the little Balkamp unit for any overnight charging.

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lee at automate-it.com
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:19 PM
To: 'list Triumph'
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery troubles

 

Wow, mentioning the KMart charger made me walk out to the shop... yep, she's still there, still in the original box with the Kmart price sticker - but I can't read it. Forty years and counting, still works. I have several others (the late model BatteryMINDer is probably the favorite for me) but the old analog standby still comes in handy. And yes, the label says "3 AMP" - but if that analog gauge is correct, it pegs right up to the 6A level when first attached to a unit in need of a lot of juice.

 

 - Lee

On 2020-10-15 13:06, dave wrote: 

Funny you should mention this.

I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them)
around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It
still works great.

I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a
few years.

If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and
let it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new
tech!

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Mon Oct 19 12:21:58 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:21:58 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
Message-ID: <003f01d6a644$bc1ca870$3455f950$@optonline.net>

  Ok, so now I had to go look at my battery charger.  It's made by the
Schumacher Electric Company of

Chicago, IL  (Hi Ted Schumacher - any relation?).  They are still in
business and are still making battery

chargers although I'm sure they're a bit more modern than this dinosaur (it
must be close to 30 years old). 

No idea where I got it - all I know is it still works and works better that
any of the new ones I've tried. 

Dennis Culligan/ 1976 TR6 CF57948U  

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From bjzwissler at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 13:20:47 2020
From: bjzwissler at gmail.com (Benjamin Zwissler)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:20:47 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
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Re:  Battery Troubles now Chargers

I've got a circa 1980 Montgomery Ward 10amp charger that still is my go to
charger for flat batteries.  Not too big and not too small, just right.  No
label on it saying who made it but you can be sure it wasn't Montgomery
Ward.  I did break down and buy a modern jump box for jumping cars with
dead batteries.  Much easier than jumper cables and hauling a spare battery
or maneuvering another car into position.

Ben.....


Ben Zwissler
bjzwissler at gmail.com
812-343-5533
Columbus, IN

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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 14:40:47 2020
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:40:47 -0500
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
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Schumacher used to be good, but the last couple chargers I bought from them
did not last very long.  They worked great, till they didn't.  I think I
got five years out of one and about three out of the other.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:37 PM <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:

>   Ok, so now I had to go look at my battery charger.  It?s made by the
> Schumacher Electric Company of
>
> Chicago, IL  (Hi Ted Schumacher ? any relation?).  They are still in
> business and are still making battery
>
> chargers although I?m sure they?re a bit more modern than this dinosaur
> (it must be close to 30 years old).
>
> No idea where I got it ? all I know is it still works and works better
> that any of the new ones I?ve tried.
>
> Dennis Culligan/ 1976 TR6 CF57948U
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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Mon Oct 19 15:18:05 2020
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:18:05 -0700
Subject: [TR] battery problems
Message-ID: <4E82BD00-A40A-4949-A2B6-69D8945C0694@comcast.net>

Just get this from Moss ? MUS 4.3 BATTERY TEST & CHARGE  by CTEK ? 

PART #	APPLICATION
386-290

I have been using two of them for 10 years and they still work gets the job done with no worries.

Just Saying ...

Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars




From keithstewart at bell.net  Mon Oct 19 15:56:05 2020
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:56:05 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
Message-ID: <067d01d6a662$a4c70300$ee550900$@bell.net>

The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a
green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is
just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that "why would
you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?" Any
idea why this was done?



 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.

 

 

Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net

 

 

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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 19 16:22:18 2020
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
In-Reply-To: <067d01d6a662$a4c70300$ee550900$@bell.net>
References: <067d01d6a662$a4c70300$ee550900$@bell.net>
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 laughing.you know i have the same problem on my TR3.it just runs through the harness to the passenger side and then has no place to go.
Frank


    On Monday, October 19, 2020, 02:58:54 PM PDT, keithstewart at bell.net <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:  
 
 
The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?



 ?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.

 ?

 ?

Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net

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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 16:31:41 2020
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:31:41 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
In-Reply-To: <067d01d6a662$a4c70300$ee550900$@bell.net>
References: <067d01d6a662$a4c70300$ee550900$@bell.net>
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Keith;

As I recall, that wire isn't the only one that ends in
nowhere.... There are one or two others, as well....

Dave

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:

> The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a
> green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is
> just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would
> you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it??
> Any idea why this was done?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith Stewart
>
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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Mon Oct 19 16:34:14 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:34:14 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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Could this have been the feed to the steering column in RHD cars?  Frank's comment that it terminates on the passenger side supports this theory.

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2020, at 17:27, Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com> wrote:

?
laughing.
you know i have the same problem on my TR3.
it just runs through the harness to the passenger side and then has no place to go.

Frank



On Monday, October 19, 2020, 02:58:54 PM PDT, keithstewart at bell.net <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:



The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?

<image002.jpg>



Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.





Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net





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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Mon Oct 19 17:12:57 2020
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:12:57 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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References: <067d01d6a662$a4c70300$ee550900$@bell.net>
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Message-ID: <003501d6a66d$62d26510$28772f30$@uprichard.net>

Green / brown is simply a live ignition wire.  If I recall correctly (I could go and look at my cars, but it is raining outside and they are in the barn ?) the green / brown on the drivers side connects with the same wire which runs from the control head through the stator tube and comes out the bottom of the steering box.  The wire you describe would be the corresponding wire for a RHD car.  As Dave correctly points out, there is redundancy also in some of the other wires.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Friedlander
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:32 PM
To: keithstewart at bell.net
Cc: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question

 

Keith;

 

As I recall, that wire isn't the only one that ends in 

nowhere.... There are one or two others, as well....

 

Dave

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net> > wrote:

The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?



 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.

 

 

Keith Stewart

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From levilevi at comcast.net  Mon Oct 19 17:20:55 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:20:55 -0600
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
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Someone mentioned in this thread to have an old charger repaired rather than buy a smart charger. Since my smart charger cooked an Optima battery I?d like to get my old reliable one fixed. Where would one take a charger to be fixed?
Thanks
Bud

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:42 PM, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Schumacher used to be good, but the last couple chargers I bought from them did not last very long.  They worked great, till they didn't.  I think I got five years out of one and about three out of the other.  
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:37 PM <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:
>>   Ok, so now I had to go look at my battery charger.  It?s made by the Schumacher Electric Company of
>> 
>> Chicago, IL  (Hi Ted Schumacher ? any relation?).  They are still in business and are still making battery
>> 
>> chargers although I?m sure they?re a bit more modern than this dinosaur (it must be close to 30 years old).
>> 
>> No idea where I got it ? all I know is it still works and works better that any of the new ones I?ve tried.
>> 
>> Dennis Culligan/ 1976 TR6 CF57948U 
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Mon Oct 19 17:37:55 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:37:55 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
In-Reply-To: <8EF60481-111C-4127-B793-8E4EB57A17AE@comcast.net>
References: <CANuE7YCNHo7PotZHPCXp7iRkkVgKW6fUsAYC7rF15P4NAQNRPg@mail.gmail.com>
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Bud ? That was probably me. My local NAPA dealer gave me that advice. I could check with him next time I?m there (probably in a week or so) to see if it?s a local (Connecticut) facility or somewhere else.  I?ll also look at the owner?s manual for my Ford/Solar charger ? there used to be a place called, what else, Battery Charger Service.

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:21 PM
To: John Innis
Cc: Truiumphs; dctr6 at optonline.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Battery Troubles

 

Someone mentioned in this thread to have an old charger repaired rather than buy a smart charger. Since my smart charger cooked an Optima battery I?d like to get my old reliable one fixed. Where would one take a charger to be fixed?

Thanks

Bud

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:42 PM, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:

?

Schumacher used to be good, but the last couple chargers I bought from them did not last very long.  They worked great, till they didn't.  I think I got five years out of one and about three out of the other.  

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:37 PM <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:

  Ok, so now I had to go look at my battery charger.  It?s made by the Schumacher Electric Company of

Chicago, IL  (Hi Ted Schumacher ? any relation?).  They are still in business and are still making battery

chargers although I?m sure they?re a bit more modern than this dinosaur (it must be close to 30 years old). 

No idea where I got it ? all I know is it still works and works better that any of the new ones I?ve tried. 

Dennis Culligan/ 1976 TR6 CF57948U  

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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Mon Oct 19 18:19:15 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 20:19:15 -0400
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
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References: <CANuE7YCNHo7PotZHPCXp7iRkkVgKW6fUsAYC7rF15P4NAQNRPg@mail.gmail.com>
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As it turns out, my old Ford branded charger was made by Century who was bought out by Clore Automotive, the same outfit that now owns the Solar name. Not sure what you have and it?s probably way too cost prohibitive, but you could give them a try. The address is still good.

 

Also, try a local Farm/Truck auto parts store.

 

Alex Thomson

 

 

 

 

 



 

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From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk  Tue Oct 20 03:16:09 2020
From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:16:09 +0100
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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Some export markets had different electrical or fusing requirements and this required different looms to be fittted. However, certain markets had only minimal electrical divergences which could be accommodated in a generic LHD loom. This wire going nowhere would identified in the wiring diagrams for the markets where the extra bits would be used and appear in the vehicle handbook and shop manuals relevant to those markets. For places where it wasn?t used, it?s identified bhut has no purpose.

Jonmac

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> On 19 Oct 2020, at 22:56, <keithstewart at bell.net> <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
> 
> The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?
> <image002.jpg>
>  
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.
>  
>  
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From elliottr at rmi.net  Tue Oct 20 13:04:39 2020
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:04:39 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
Message-ID: <90b0bb83-096f-4d96-6c2d-bd5adec390a1@rmi.net>

Hi,
I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a 
Stromberg 175 CD-2.? It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the 
threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.

Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?

I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.

Thanks,
Roger Elliott


From greg at gelhar.com  Tue Oct 20 14:52:40 2020
From: greg at gelhar.com (Greg Gelhar)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:52:40 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
In-Reply-To: <90b0bb83-096f-4d96-6c2d-bd5adec390a1@rmi.net>
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This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a proprietary thread size. I measure that thread to be    M10.8 x 1.5    an odd ball for sure.

Greg G,
Osseo, MN

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve

Hi,
I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a Stromberg 175 CD-2.  It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.

Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?

I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.

Thanks,
Roger Elliott

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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct 20 19:14:17 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:14:17 -0500
Subject: [TR] [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I?m curious ? why do you want a hardtop? 

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:45 PM
To: Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; dctr6 at optonline.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

I'd love to buy a correct hardtop for my '75 TR6...if I can find one that I can afford. I will repaint it so color and finish is unimportant. I even have a new, unopened convertible top that I can offer in trade.

 

rick

 

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:14 AM Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com <mailto:motrv8d at hotmail.com> > wrote:

I agree with all of this. I love the look of the hardtop, yet don't use it. I had my rear deck repainted. I put the hartop on shortly after. The VERY FIRST TIME I removed the top, a good friend helped. I emphasized picking it up higher at the rear so the deck wouldn't get scratched. Oh well. Scratched it is. Again. 

 

  _____  

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> >
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:35 AM
To: 'Bud Rolofson' <levilevi at comcast.net <mailto:levilevi at comcast.net> >
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>  <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> >; 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>  <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value 

 

Bud ? 

    The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.

Dennis   

 

From: Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net <mailto:levilevi at comcast.net> > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> >
Cc: dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> ; triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> ; 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.

 

Bud



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> > wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways. 



On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote: 

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days? 

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but 

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   


  

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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 20 20:03:49 2020
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 19:03:49 -0700
Subject: [TR] [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I have an aftermarket hardtop on my TR6 and like it.? It keeps the sun 
off me (I'm light sensitive) and makes it much quieter on road trips 
without the wind noise.? I can drive the interstate at 80mph for several 
tanks of gas without sore hair or tired ears.? It is also nice to be 
able to securely lock the car.

Brian

On 10/20/2020 6:14 PM, dave wrote:
>
> I?m curious ? why do you want a hardtop?
>
> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Lindsay
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:45 PM
> *To:* Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* triumphs at autox.team.net; dctr6 at optonline.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
>
> I'd love to buy a correct hardtop for my '75 TR6...if I can find one 
> that I can afford. I will repaint it so color and finish is 
> unimportant. I even have a new, unopened convertible top that I can 
> offer in trade.
>
> rick
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:14 AM Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:motrv8d at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I agree with all of this. I love the look of the hardtop, yet
>     don't use it. I had my rear deck repainted. I put the hartop on
>     shortly after. The VERY FIRST TIME I removed the top, a good
>     friend helped. I emphasized picking it up higher at the rear so
>     the deck wouldn't get scratched. Oh well. Scratched it is. Again.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:*6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of
>     dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>
>     <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:35 AM
>     *To:* 'Bud Rolofson' <levilevi at comcast.net
>     <mailto:levilevi at comcast.net>>
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>     6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
>     <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
>
>     Bud ?
>
>     ????The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched
>     up after I bought the car back in 1989.? My top actually seemed to
>     seal pretty well especially around the windows.? It definitely
>     stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over
>     bumps.? But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been
>     on the car in over 31 years.
>
>     Dennis
>
>     *From:* Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net
>     <mailto:levilevi at comcast.net>>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
>     *To:* BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net>>
>     *Cc:* dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>;
>     triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>;
>     6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
>
>     One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for
>     scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that
>     rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that
>     problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts
>     but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make
>     the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with
>     pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.
>
>     Bud
>
>
>
>     Sent from my Commodore 64
>
>
>     On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net
>     <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>         Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any
>         original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways.
>
>             On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net
>             <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>             ??? A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ?
>             Any idea what these are going for these days?
>
>             I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those
>             crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450? - $700) but
>
>             he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that
>             condition of the top will dictate the price but
>
>             he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.
>
>             Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/? 1976 TR6 CF57948U
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 05:04:23 2020
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 07:04:23 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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Not an overdrive wire, is it?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:

> The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a
> green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is
> just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would
> you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it??
> Any idea why this was done?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.
>
>
>
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>
> Keith Stewart
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Wed Oct 21 05:25:55 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 07:25:55 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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The suggestion that it is a feed for a RHD steering column switch makes most sense as it passes through the flasher unit. It wouldn?t be of much use for anything else.

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:04 AM
To: Keith Stewart
Cc: TR3/6
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question

 

Not an overdrive wire, is it?

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:

The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?



 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.

 

 

Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net

 

 

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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Wed Oct 21 10:15:32 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:15:32 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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Only if you want your overdrive to operate intermittently and only when turning a corner! ?

Mike

Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
Albion Technical Services
W5918 Hackbarth Rd
Fort Atkinson, WI 53538

Cell:  630-202-0065
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:04 AM
To: Keith Stewart <keithstewart at bell.net>
Cc: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question

Not an overdrive wire, is it?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net<mailto:keithstewart at bell.net>> wrote:
The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?
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Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.


Keith Stewart
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 21 11:32:44 2020
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 17:32:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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 and thats a problem??i once owned a car with radials on the right side and bias on the left. in hindsight of my polotics i should have considered rotating


    On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 09:16:24 AM PDT, Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com> wrote:  
 
 
Only if you want your overdrive to operate intermittently and only when turning a corner!?
 
 ?
 
Mike
 
 ?
 
Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
 
Albion Technical Services
 
W5918 Hackbarth Rd
 
Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
 
 ?
 
Cell:? 630-202-0065
 
Email:? mmarr at albiontechnical.com
 
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf OfJeff Scarbrough
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:04 AM
To: Keith Stewart <keithstewart at bell.net>
Cc: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
 
 ?
 
Not an overdrive wire, is it?
 
 ?
 
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:
 

The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?
 

 
?
 
Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.
 
?
 
?
 
Keith Stewart
 
keithstewart at bell.net
 
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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Wed Oct 21 12:31:55 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:31:55 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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Bias to the left is fine with me, Scouser!

Mike

Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
Albion Technical Services
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From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:33 PM
To: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>; Keith Stewart <keithstewart at bell.net>; Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com>
Cc: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question

and thats a problem?
 i once owned a car with radials on the right side and bias on the left. in hindsight of my polotics i should have considered rotating



On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 09:16:24 AM PDT, Michael Marr <mmarr at albiontechnical.com<mailto:mmarr at albiontechnical.com>> wrote:



Only if you want your overdrive to operate intermittently and only when turning a corner! ?



Mike



Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.

Albion Technical Services

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:04 AM
To: Keith Stewart <keithstewart at bell.net<mailto:keithstewart at bell.net>>
Cc: TR3/6 <triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question



Not an overdrive wire, is it?



On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM <keithstewart at bell.net<mailto:keithstewart at bell.net>> wrote:

The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?

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Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.





Keith Stewart

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From elliottr at rmi.net  Wed Oct 21 14:02:46 2020
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 15:02:46 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
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Thanks Greg,

Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.

I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for 
a triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.

Roger

On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a proprietary thread size. I measure that thread to be    M10.8 x 1.5    an odd ball for sure.
>
> Greg G,
> Osseo, MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>
> Hi,
> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a Stromberg 175 CD-2.  It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
>
> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
>
> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger Elliott
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From greg at gelhar.com  Wed Oct 21 18:47:57 2020
From: greg at gelhar.com (Greg Gelhar)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 19:47:57 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
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A machine job shop with thread milling capabilities could do the work. No
idea what they would charge. I don't have access to a thread micrometer, so
that thread might even be M11 x 1.5 at least that size is on some charts.

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:03 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve

Thanks Greg,

Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.

I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for a
triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.

Roger

On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a proprietary
thread size. I measure that thread to be    M10.8 x 1.5    an odd ball for
sure.
>
> Greg G,
> Osseo, MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger 
> Elliott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>
> Hi,
> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a
Stromberg 175 CD-2.  It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the
threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
>
> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
>
> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger Elliott
>
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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Wed Oct 21 19:19:09 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 01:19:09 +0000
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
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10.8 mm is within the tolerance for the major diameter of an M11 thread (Max-10.968 mm, Min-10.732 mm), so that may well be what you have.

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Gelhar
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:48 PM
To: 'Roger Elliott' <elliottr at rmi.net>; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve

A machine job shop with thread milling capabilities could do the work. No idea what they would charge. I don't have access to a thread micrometer, so that thread might even be M11 x 1.5 at least that size is on some charts.

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:03 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve

Thanks Greg,

Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.

I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for a triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.

Roger

On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a 
> proprietary
thread size. I measure that thread to be    M10.8 x 1.5    an odd ball for
sure.
>
> Greg G,
> Osseo, MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger 
> Elliott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>
> Hi,
> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a
Stromberg 175 CD-2.  It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
>
> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
>
> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger Elliott
>
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 15:28:56 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:28:56 -0700
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog?
Message-ID: <CANLCLaG=NRXVE5CtMj3JEL9KworTG_qWtV6zrbdCopD2AnPLJQ@mail.gmail.com>

I remember looking at a $800 Spitfire years ago. The smog stuff had been
removed. Someone  said not to touch a Spitfire if the smog stuff has been
removed as it could cost that much to get it back on the road.
Just pondering. If I get a later Spitfire which has been off the road but
has the smog stuff on it, what would it cost (worse case) to make is
compliant? Are smog related bits available?

Sujit

-- 
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Oct 22 15:56:21 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:56:21 -0500
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog?
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaG=NRXVE5CtMj3JEL9KworTG_qWtV6zrbdCopD2AnPLJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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First of all, your best bet is to move out of California.  Who needs the hassle???

 

Second option is to find a friend that lives in a state that isn?t so hard on old cars.  Register your car there

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:29 PM
To: TTSCC at googlegroups.com; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog?

 

I remember looking at a $800 Spitfire years ago. The smog stuff had been removed. Someone  said not to touch a Spitfire if the smog stuff has been removed as it could cost that much to get it back on the road.

Just pondering. If I get a later Spitfire which has been off the road but has the smog stuff on it, what would it cost (worse case) to make is compliant? Are smog related bits available?

 

Sujit


 

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From sackirby at chinaautogroup.com  Thu Oct 22 16:10:07 2020
From: sackirby at chinaautogroup.com (Steve Kirby)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 22:10:07 +0000
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog?
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Sujit, as you know, 1975 and older vehicles do not get smog checked in CA, so the missing smog parts are not a problem with those cars.  For newer than ?75 it is a problem.  Moss list some small emissions items, but no smog pumps. Rebuilt ones are on the internet for about $100.  All the big retail auto parts stores have them.  RockAuto $98.89 including the core charge.  You can probably cobble the smog system back together for about $200.

Steve Kirby
President
China Auto Group
22831 Avenida Empresa
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA
Direct:  (949) 261-8208
Fax:  (949) 767-5949
Cell:  (949) 903-0957
Skype: steve.kirby29
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 2:56 PM
To: 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog?

First of all, your best bet is to move out of California.  Who needs the hassle???

Second option is to find a friend that lives in a state that isn?t so hard on old cars.  Register your car there

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:29 PM
To: TTSCC at googlegroups.com<mailto:TTSCC at googlegroups.com>; Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog?

I remember looking at a $800 Spitfire years ago. The smog stuff had been removed. Someone  said not to touch a Spitfire if the smog stuff has been removed as it could cost that much to get it back on the road.
Just pondering. If I get a later Spitfire which has been off the road but has the smog stuff on it, what would it cost (worse case) to make is compliant? Are smog related bits available?

Sujit

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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Thu Oct 15 04:34:41 2020
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:34:41 +0100
Subject: [TR] Regarding Triumph variants
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For the record, I?m writing an article on this very subject for one of the US TRIUMPH clubs. It?s not yet finished and is too long to put on this list. It principally addresses how all European manufacturers dealt with the issue from 1968 onwards and I?m more than happy to send a copy to the editor of your own club if he wants it. I feel this could be a question many Triumph owners may have pondered who are not on the list. If you feel your editor would like to receive a copy for publication, please ask him to contact me. I?m very sorry to have to say that I no longer send out material to individuals as a few years ago, a nameless soul whose name I have not seen for quite a while, took some of my material and made it look as though he had written it. What he did not know is his Club editor knew me and sent me the material he?d been given to confirm if it was mine or not. It was, and I still had the paper trail to prove it. As I?m not sure if said offender is still in lurk mode here, this is why I?m restricting the issue method. Sorry all but that?s how it is.

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.

> On 15 Oct 2020, at 00:18, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I recall in the UK new models or variants came out mid year. I'm thinking that in the US new models came out at the beginning of the year. Correct me if I am wrong.
> If this was the case, I'm assuming a Mk2 Stag was released in the UK mid year. Would US customers get the Mk2 earlier? 
> How did Triumph release new models for each region?
> 
> Sujit
> 
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Mon Oct 19 19:52:16 2020
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:52:16 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question
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Andrew, Michael, David and Frank, thanks for your insights.

 

Keith

 

From: auprichard at uprichard.net <auprichard at uprichard.net> 
Sent: October 19, 2020 7:13 PM
To: 'David Friedlander' <forzion7 at gmail.com>; keithstewart at bell.net
Cc: 'TR3/6' <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question

 

Green / brown is simply a live ignition wire.  If I recall correctly (I could go and look at my cars, but it is raining outside and they are in the barn ?) the green / brown on the drivers side connects with the same wire which runs from the control head through the stator tube and comes out the bottom of the steering box.  The wire you describe would be the corresponding wire for a RHD car.  As Dave correctly points out, there is redundancy also in some of the other wires.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

From: Triumphs < <mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Friedlander
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:32 PM
To:  <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net> keithstewart at bell.net
Cc: TR3/6 < <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Wiring Question

 

Keith;

 

As I recall, that wire isn't the only one that ends in 

nowhere.... There are one or two others, as well....

 

Dave

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM < <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net> keithstewart at bell.net> wrote:

The AAW wiring diagrams for the TR2/3/3A/3B turn signal lights show a green/brown wire branching off from a connector, but going no where. It is just terminated by a connector. This seems a bit strange in that ?why would you run a wire somewhere, to do nothing, and then have to terminate it?? Any idea why this was done?



 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts, opinions, and guesses.

 

 

Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net> 

 

 

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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Tue Oct 20 03:26:35 2020
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:26:35 +0100
Subject: [TR] Battery Troubles
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Does anyone know the name of the charger DUNCAN Wood of Red River Triumph in Texas used? He left the battery in huis Gloria Southern Cross on overnight trickle charge and something inside went put and mains voltage went into the battery. The resulting fire almost cost DUNCAN and his wife?s home but they sure lost the ?Cross? and an immaculate ?Stag?. Because of that, I never leave a battery on overnight charge or leave the house when charging.

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 01:19, Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> As it turns out, my old Ford branded charger was made by Century who was bought out by Clore Automotive, the same outfit that now owns the Solar name. Not sure what you have and it?s probably way too cost prohibitive, but you could give them a try. The address is still good.
>  
> Also, try a local Farm/Truck auto parts store.
>  
> Alex Thomson
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> <image001.png>
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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 10:28:37 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:28:37 -0700
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow up
 questions
Message-ID: <CANLCLaGiq5uF8fw=HqXrzbn9XnGbGAkCC5VvgKbazmgtyW8FAg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it,
what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a
Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I
can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to
pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog
but  '75 on are not?

Regards, Sujit

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From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk  Fri Oct 23 11:42:38 2020
From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:42:38 +0100
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow
 up questions
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Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that?s why Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I?ve driven over years - rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car something that is best forgotten.

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.

> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it, what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog  but  '75 on are not?
> 
> Regards, Sujit
> 
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 04:34:04 2020
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 06:34:04 -0400
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow
 up questions
In-Reply-To: <C3E1190F-2839-4212-9DCD-A1722846D5CA@Ukpips.org.uk>
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>  The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing
issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour
of the 1500

Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been cleaned up and
balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been purchased,
and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add
a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better than
the original US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have spent enough cubic
dollars to go at least a little faster...

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.



On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
wrote:

> Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU
> carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that?s why Spitfires from
> either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion
> is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly
> followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has
> always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls
> of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I?ve driven over years -
> rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously
> disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car
> something that is best forgotten.
>
> Jonmac
>
> Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
> Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but
> you will still be ugly?.
>
> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it,
> what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a
> Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I
> can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to
> pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog
> but  '75 on are not?
>
> Regards, Sujit
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
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From ptegler at verizon.net  Sat Oct 24 06:28:13 2020
From: ptegler at verizon.net (Paul Tegler)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:28:13 -0400
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow
 up questions
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the twin SUs and 4-2-1 Eurospec exhaust will definitely be a noticable 
improvement.

Late 70's spits were de-tuned (smog regs) in the US and choked down with 
the single ZS carb , somewhere around 58 hp.
Just the carbs and exhaust change puts you back to near 75HP..... and 
before the cam change!

ptegler

On 10/24/2020 6:34 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
> > The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing 
> issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in 
> favour of the 1500
>
> Well, I'm about to find out.? My short block has been cleaned up and 
> balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been 
> purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing 
> attended to.? Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it 
> ought to be better than the original US spec, anyway.? I will 
> certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster..
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney 
> <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk <mailto:John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited,
>     the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that?s why
>     Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single
>     Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8
>     port head is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The
>     1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing
>     issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest
>     in favour of the 1500 but the many I?ve driven over years -
>     rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e.
>     seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made
>     that great little car something that is best forgotten.
>
>     Jonmac
>
>     Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
>     Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be
>     sober but you will still be ugly?.
>
>     On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com
>     <mailto:triumphstag at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     Thanks for the answers. Here are a?few follow up questions.
>>     If the Smog parts were completely removed from the?car and it
>>     needs it, what is the? worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to
>>     get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would?I need to buy
>>     and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing?a smog
>>     without having?a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also,
>>     are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog but? '75 on are not?
>>
>>     Regards, Sujit
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Sujit Roy
>>     Cupertino, California
>>
>>     https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>
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From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk  Sat Oct 24 08:35:23 2020
From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 15:35:23 +0100
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow
 up questions
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Jeff,

Given that the 1500 with all the smog stuff fitted would be second place to a Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine, I think you?ll be in for a pleasant surprise. Enjoy

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.

> On 24 Oct 2020, at 11:34, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >  The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500
> 
> Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been cleaned up and balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better than the original US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster...
> 
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk> wrote:
>> Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that?s why Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I?ve driven over years - rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car something that is best forgotten.
>> 
>> Jonmac
>> 
>> Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
>> Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.
>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
>>> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it, what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog  but  '75 on are not?
>>> 
>>> Regards, Sujit
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sujit Roy
>>> Cupertino, California
>>> 
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 24 10:06:21 2020
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:06:21 -0500
Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow
 up questions
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Have a friend that loaded his Spit up four Mikunis, runs quite nice but for the gearing that severely limits highway cruising. 
B

On Oct 24, 2020, at 9:58 AM, John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk> wrote:

?Jeff,

Given that the 1500 with all the smog stuff fitted would be second place to a Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine, I think you?ll be in for a pleasant surprise. Enjoy

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.

On 24 Oct 2020, at 11:34, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> wrote:

> >  The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500
> 
> Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been cleaned up and balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better than the original US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster...
> 
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney <John.Macartney at ukpips.org.uk> wrote:
>> Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that?s why Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I?ve driven over years - rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car something that is best forgotten.
>> 
>> Jonmac
>> 
>> Bessie Braddock: ?Winston! You?re drunk?.
>> Churchill: ?and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly?.
>> 
>> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
>>> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it, what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog  but  '75 on are not?
>>> 
>>> Regards, Sujit
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sujit Roy
>>> Cupertino, California
>>> 
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From joemato at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 01:42:41 2020
From: joemato at sbcglobal.net (JOSEPH MATO)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 07:42:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] LED lites
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I was thinking of putting them in my TR3 which would really improve the headlights since I still have a generator. Any particular brand best? Thanks! Joe Mato? ? TR3,6
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Sun Oct 25 04:01:52 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 06:01:52 -0400
Subject: [TR] LED lites
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https://litezupp.com is one source for all LED lamps. 

 

Locally, you can try Abington Spares. https://abingdonspares.com/ 

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOSEPH MATO
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 3:43 AM
To: TR List
Subject: [TR] LED lites

 

I was thinking of putting them in my TR3 which would really improve the headlights since I still have a generator. Any particular brand best? Thanks! Joe Mato    TR3,6

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From elliottr at rmi.net  Sun Oct 25 10:56:01 2020
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 11:56:01 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
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Thanks Greg and Mike,
I bought a set of M11 1.5 taps (taper, plug and bottom).?? They worked 
perfectly for the needle valve.? I am glad I got the set. I started with 
the taper, but used the bottom tap to finish up.

So, M11 1.5 is the ticket.

Thanks again guys.

Roger

On 10/21/2020 8:19 PM, Michael Marr wrote:
> 10.8 mm is within the tolerance for the major diameter of an M11 thread (Max-10.968 mm, Min-10.732 mm), so that may well be what you have.
>
> Mike
>
> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
> Albion Technical Services
> W5918 Hackbarth Rd
> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Gelhar
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:48 PM
> To: 'Roger Elliott' <elliottr at rmi.net>; triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>
> A machine job shop with thread milling capabilities could do the work. No idea what they would charge. I don't have access to a thread micrometer, so that thread might even be M11 x 1.5 at least that size is on some charts.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:03 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>
> Thanks Greg,
>
> Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.
>
> I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for a triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.
>
> Roger
>
> On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
>> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a
>> proprietary
> thread size. I measure that thread to be    M10.8 x 1.5    an odd ball for
> sure.
>> Greg G,
>> Osseo, MN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger
>> Elliott
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>>
>> Hi,
>> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a
> Stromberg 175 CD-2.  It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
>> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
>>
>> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roger Elliott
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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 11:52:01 2020
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 13:52:01 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
Message-ID: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all!

Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block
on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out
engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the
helicoil route.

Thanks all!

Dave Friedlander
'74 Six


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From mmarr at albiontechnical.com  Sun Oct 25 12:12:22 2020
From: mmarr at albiontechnical.com (Michael Marr)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:12:22 +0000
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
In-Reply-To: <a1ec53f5-dfe7-0a02-aebd-27fa6d4c3f71@rmi.net>
References: <a1ec53f5-dfe7-0a02-aebd-27fa6d4c3f71@rmi.net>
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Good!  Glad that worked out. 

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2020, at 12:01, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks Greg and Mike,
> I bought a set of M11 1.5 taps (taper, plug and bottom).   They worked perfectly for the needle valve.  I am glad I got the set. I started with the taper, but used the bottom tap to finish up.
> 
> So, M11 1.5 is the ticket.
> 
> Thanks again guys.
> 
> Roger
> 
>> On 10/21/2020 8:19 PM, Michael Marr wrote:
>> 10.8 mm is within the tolerance for the major diameter of an M11 thread (Max-10.968 mm, Min-10.732 mm), so that may well be what you have.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
>> Albion Technical Services
>> W5918 Hackbarth Rd
>> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
>> 
>> Cell:  630-202-0065
>> Email:  mmarr at albiontechnical.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Gelhar
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:48 PM
>> To: 'Roger Elliott' <elliottr at rmi.net>; triumphs at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>> 
>> A machine job shop with thread milling capabilities could do the work. No idea what they would charge. I don't have access to a thread micrometer, so that thread might even be M11 x 1.5 at least that size is on some charts.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:03 PM
>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>> 
>> Thanks Greg,
>> 
>> Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.
>> 
>> I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for a triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>>> On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
>>> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a
>>> proprietary
>> thread size. I measure that thread to be    M10.8 x 1.5    an odd ball for
>> sure.
>>> Greg G,
>>> Osseo, MN
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger
>>> Elliott
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
>>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a
>> Stromberg 175 CD-2.  It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
>>> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
>>> 
>>> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roger Elliott
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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Sun Oct 25 12:35:46 2020
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:35:46 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003c01d6aafd$a7a6e9b0$f6f4bd10$@charter.net>

A number of years ago, I had to replace the camshaft in our TR6. The front threads in the sealing block for the timing chain cover were very weak and I was able to install Heli coils with the engine in place. Not easy ? I had to use a tap socket with an extension but it worked.

 

But, you could try this outfit.

 

https://classic-technologies.com/sealing-block.php

 

 

Alex Thomson

 

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Friedlander
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 1:52 PM
To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)

 

Hey all!

 

Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block

on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out 

engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the 

helicoil route.

 

Thanks all!

Dave Friedlander

'74 Six

 

 

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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Sun Oct 25 12:43:04 2020
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:43:04 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
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Dave,

I replaced mine with a stainless steel version when I rebuilt my 72 
engine. Cant remember who was selling them but it was someone on this 
list or may have been on the 6 Pack forum of which I am no longer a member.

You might want to ping the 6 list as well.

I can't be the only one who used this upgrade.

Bob

On 10/25/20 1:52 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block
> on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell?me from a?parted-out
> engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the
> helicoil route.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Dave Friedlander
> '74 Six
>
>
> image.png
>
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From cfmtr3a at verizon.net  Sun Oct 25 12:58:10 2020
From: cfmtr3a at verizon.net (CFM-TR)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:58:10 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
In-Reply-To: <33e5277e-4f2c-a188-033e-ffd6491d7488@adelphia.net>
References: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <38742399-eaf1-45b1-9f29-dd9df6a655bc@verizon.net>

Any suggestions for the TR3 4-cylinder?

?Get BlueMail for Android 
?

On Oct 25, 2020, 2:43 PM, at 2:43 PM, Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
>Dave,
>
>I replaced mine with a stainless steel version when I rebuilt my 72 
>engine. Cant remember who was selling them but it was someone on this 
>list or may have been on the 6 Pack forum of which I am no longer a
>member.
>
>You might want to ping the 6 list as well.
>
>I can't be the only one who used this upgrade.
>
>Bob
>
>On 10/25/20 1:52 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>> Hey all!
>>
>> Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing
>block
>> on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell?me from a?parted-out
>> engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the
>> helicoil route.
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Dave Friedlander
>> '74 Six
>>
>>
>> image.png
>>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Oct 25 13:03:53 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:03:53 -0500
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
In-Reply-To: <38742399-eaf1-45b1-9f29-dd9df6a655bc@verizon.net>
References: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
 <33e5277e-4f2c-a188-033e-ffd6491d7488@adelphia.net>
 <38742399-eaf1-45b1-9f29-dd9df6a655bc@verizon.net>
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Probably www.goodparts.com <http://www.goodparts.com> 

 

Richard good

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of CFM-TR
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 1:58 PM
To: Triumph Mail List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)

 

Any suggestions for the TR3 4-cylinder?

Get BlueMail for Android <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=16117>  

On Oct 25, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net <mailto:yellowtr at adelphia.net> > wrote:

Dave,

I replaced mine with a stainless steel version when I rebuilt my 72 engine. Cant remember who was selling them but it was someone on this list or may have been on the 6 Pack forum of which I am no longer a member. 

You might want to ping the 6 list as well. 

I can't be the only one who used this upgrade.

Bob

On 10/25/20 1:52 PM, David Friedlander wrote:

Hey all!

 

Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block

on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out 

engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the 

helicoil route.

 

Thanks all!

Dave Friedlander

'74 Six

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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Sun Oct 25 13:09:14 2020
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 15:09:14 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
In-Reply-To: <38742399-eaf1-45b1-9f29-dd9df6a655bc@verizon.net>
References: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
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If I remember correctly, the blocks are threaded in the 6-cylinder engines, but not in the 4-cylinder.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of CFM-TR
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:58 PM
To: Triumph Mail List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)

 

Any suggestions for the TR3 4-cylinder?

Get BlueMail for Android <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=16117>  

On Oct 25, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net <mailto:yellowtr at adelphia.net> > wrote:

Dave,

I replaced mine with a stainless steel version when I rebuilt my 72 engine. Cant remember who was selling them but it was someone on this list or may have been on the 6 Pack forum of which I am no longer a member. 

You might want to ping the 6 list as well. 

I can't be the only one who used this upgrade.

Bob

On 10/25/20 1:52 PM, David Friedlander wrote:

Hey all!

 

Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block

on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out 

engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the 

helicoil route.

 

Thanks all!

Dave Friedlander

'74 Six

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From levilevi at comcast.net  Sun Oct 25 13:11:11 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 13:11:11 -0600
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <51F4E001-255E-4466-BD95-E43F879C29AF@comcast.net>

Rethread it to the next size up. That's what I did and the engine never knew the difference. Being aluminum it's, of course, real easy to tap.
Bud

Sent from my Commodore 64

> On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:52 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all!
> 
> Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block
> on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out 
> engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the 
> helicoil route.
> 
> Thanks all!
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> '74 Six
> 
> 
> <image.png>
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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 14:22:09 2020
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:22:09 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
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From levilevi at comcast.net  Sun Oct 25 18:36:29 2020
From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:36:29 -0600
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
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Rethread it to the next size up. That's what I did and the engine never knew the difference. Being aluminum it's, of course, real easy to tap.
Bud

> On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:52 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all!
> 
> Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block
> on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out 
> engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the 
> helicoil route.
> 
> Thanks all!
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> '74 Six
> 
> 
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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 18:52:00 2020
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (forzion7 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:52:00 -0400
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
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Sincere thanks to all who responded. I think I will first try drilling and tapping the sealing block to 3/8 - 24. If that works out, great. If not, a steel block seems to be the best (if not the least expensive) solution....

Cheers all!

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Rethread it to the next size up. That's what I did and the engine never knew the difference. Being aluminum it's, of course, real easy to tap.
> Bud
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:52 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all!
>> 
>> Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing block
>> on my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell me from a parted-out 
>> engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the 
>> helicoil route.
>> 
>> Thanks all!
>> 
>> Dave Friedlander
>> '74 Six
>> 
>> 
>> <image.png>
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> 
> Bud Rolofson
> 
> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
> 
> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
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From greg at gelhar.com  Sun Oct 25 20:17:00 2020
From: greg at gelhar.com (greg)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 21:17:00 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
Message-ID: <mailman.12.1603678631.2890.triumphs@autox.team.net>

Did you reuse the inlet tube? It looks like it is simply pressed into a reamed 1\4 inch hole.
An old needle valve ( soldered shut) will blank off the original opening.

Greg G.

On Oct 25, 2020 11:56 AM, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Greg and Mike,
> I bought a set of M11 1.5 taps (taper, plug and bottom).?? They worked 
> perfectly for the needle valve.? I am glad I got the set. I started with 
> the taper, but used the bottom tap to finish up.
>
> So, M11 1.5 is the ticket.
>
> Thanks again guys.
>
> Roger
>
> On 10/21/2020 8:19 PM, Michael Marr wrote:
> > 10.8 mm is within the tolerance for the major diameter of an M11 thread (Max-10.968 mm, Min-10.732 mm), so that may well be what you have.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
> > Albion Technical Services
> > W5918 Hackbarth Rd
> > Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
> >
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> > Email:? mmarr at albiontechnical.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Gelhar
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:48 PM
> > To: 'Roger Elliott' <elliottr at rmi.net>; triumphs at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
> >
> > A machine job shop with thread milling capabilities could do the work. No idea what they would charge. I don't have access to a thread micrometer, so that thread might even be M11 x 1.5 at least that size is on some charts.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:03 PM
> > To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
> >
> > Thanks Greg,
> >
> > Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.
> >
> > I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for a triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
> >> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a
> >> proprietary
> > thread size. I measure that thread to be??? M10.8 x 1.5??? an odd ball for
> > sure.
> >> Greg G,
> >> Osseo, MN
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger
> >> Elliott
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
> >> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> >> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a
> > Stromberg 175 CD-2.? It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
> >> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
> >>
> >> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roger Elliott
> >>
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From elliottr at rmi.net  Mon Oct 26 10:23:35 2020
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:23:35 -0500
Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
In-Reply-To: <202010252217.1KwS4oCF3PGoUh0@ibscan-lexington.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <202010252217.1KwS4oCF3PGoUh0@ibscan-lexington.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <dc9bda89-f563-27f3-4a4b-af54cd4600a0@rmi.net>

I haven't quite figured out that part yet.

I was planning on sealing up an old needle valve to block the old inlet 
- thinking about epoxy, but soldering is probably better.

I tried twisting the old inlet tube (actually on a carb I 'm not using) 
but was not able to get it to budge yet. So, I am not sure what I am 
doing with it yet.

Roger

On 10/25/2020 9:17 PM, greg wrote:
> Did you reuse the inlet tube? It looks like it is simply pressed into a reamed 1\4 inch hole.
> An old needle valve ( soldered shut) will blank off the original opening.
>
> Greg G.
>
> On Oct 25, 2020 11:56 AM, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Greg and Mike,
>> I bought a set of M11 1.5 taps (taper, plug and bottom).?? They worked
>> perfectly for the needle valve.? I am glad I got the set. I started with
>> the taper, but used the bottom tap to finish up.
>>
>> So, M11 1.5 is the ticket.
>>
>> Thanks again guys.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> On 10/21/2020 8:19 PM, Michael Marr wrote:
>>> 10.8 mm is within the tolerance for the major diameter of an M11 thread (Max-10.968 mm, Min-10.732 mm), so that may well be what you have.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
>>> Albion Technical Services
>>> W5918 Hackbarth Rd
>>> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
>>>
>>> Cell:? 630-202-0065
>>> Email:? mmarr at albiontechnical.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Gelhar
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:48 PM
>>> To: 'Roger Elliott' <elliottr at rmi.net>; triumphs at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>>>
>>> A machine job shop with thread milling capabilities could do the work. No idea what they would charge. I don't have access to a thread micrometer, so that thread might even be M11 x 1.5 at least that size is on some charts.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Elliott
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:03 PM
>>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>>>
>>> Thanks Greg,
>>>
>>> Sounds like finding a tap for that is out of the question.
>>>
>>> I know I read a post somewhere about someone changing the inlet side for a triple carb set-up, but I have not been able to find it again.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2020 3:52 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote:
>>>> This could be one of those times where a manufacturer uses a
>>>> proprietary
>>> thread size. I measure that thread to be??? M10.8 x 1.5??? an odd ball for
>>> sure.
>>>> Greg G,
>>>> Osseo, MN
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger
>>>> Elliott
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM
>>>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
>>>> Subject: [TR] Thread of Stromberg 175 Needle valve
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I would like to change the side that the fuel inlet comes in on a
>>> Stromberg 175 CD-2.? It looks like it will be real easy to do, but the threads on the needle valve don't seem to match anything in my tap set.
>>>> Does anybody know what the thread is on the needle valves?
>>>>
>>>> I know I could get a different carb body, but I am trying to avoid that.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Roger Elliott
>>>>
>>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
>>>>
>>>> Donate:
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From robertrudolphi at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 27 11:39:51 2020
From: robertrudolphi at yahoo.com (robert rudolphi)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:39:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Installing Moss headlight relay kit in a 74 TR6
References: <146393434.302733.1603820391031.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <146393434.302733.1603820391031@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
I recently purchased a headlight relay kit from Moss and am having trouble finding the end points of where to plug it into the existing harness. The instructions are somewhat clear but I cannot seem to find the "plugin points" for the high beams/low beams. If anyone has installed one and has insights I would greatly appreciate any feedback, as I am definitely wiring challenged.
Thank you,
Robert Rudolphi?74 TR6?
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 27 13:07:34 2020
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:07:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Sealing block (TRF ref. 151134)
In-Reply-To: <51F4E001-255E-4466-BD95-E43F879C29AF@comcast.net>
References: <CAJ1eQwgXoZawwd9_suCs8J8BJc4AuFH+5OO+gnQ1ysQL7SoO2A@mail.gmail.com>
 <51F4E001-255E-4466-BD95-E43F879C29AF@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1576940238.2911555.1603825654470@mail.yahoo.com>

 and if you go to a metric size the next size up can be very minimal.Frank
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 12:13:24 PM PDT, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 Rethread it to the next size up. That's what I did and the engine never knew the difference. Being aluminum it's, of course, real easy to tap.Bud

Sent from my Commodore 64
On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:52 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7 at gmail.com> wrote:


Hey all!
Looks like I've got some stripped threads in the aluminum sealing blockon my TR6. Anyone have one they'd care to sell?me from a?parted-out?engine? I'd rather go with a new-to-me original piece than going the?helicoil route.
Thanks all!

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From keithstewart at bell.net  Tue Oct 27 13:25:59 2020
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:25:59 -0400
Subject: [TR] Installing Moss headlight relay kit in a 74 TR6
In-Reply-To: <146393434.302733.1603820391031@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <146393434.302733.1603820391031.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <146393434.302733.1603820391031@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <11d801d6ac97$0057c6c0$01075440$@bell.net>

I did this to Chris? TR6 using AAW?s relay kit. I have written an article on the installation for our club magazine and am happy to provide it to anyone interested. Just email off list. While for a slightly different configuration (the AAW kit), the main concepts are the same.

 

The direct answer to your question, from that article, is:

 

?The U/R and U/W wires (one each) run from the dimmer switch to a double snap connector sleeve near the lower front valance on the driver side. There are two similarly colour coded wires running from each double connector, one to each side, left and right. You can remove the wire coming from the dimmer switch and place the included single snap connector sleeve on this wire. The other two wires and the double connector can be removed. You can store these wires, connectors, and headlamp connectors in the event you ever want to revert to the original wiring. [CONCEPT: When the headlamp switch is turned on, power will be provided to the low beam (U/R) relay or to the high beam (U/W) relay depending on the position of the dimmer switch.]?

 

I am happy to share more details in that article.

 

 

Keith Stewart

keithstewart at bell.net

 

 

 

From: robert rudolphi <robertrudolphi at yahoo.com> 
Sent: October 27, 2020 1:40 PM
To: Triumphs List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Installing Moss headlight relay kit in a 74 TR6

 

Hi all,

 

I recently purchased a headlight relay kit from Moss and am having trouble finding the end points of where to plug it into the existing harness. The instructions are somewhat clear but I cannot seem to find the "plugin points" for the high beams/low beams. If anyone has installed one and has insights I would greatly appreciate any feedback, as I am definitely wiring challenged.

 

Thank you,

 

Robert Rudolphi 

74 TR6 

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From adcronin at mi.rr.com  Tue Oct 27 15:53:20 2020
From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:53:20 -0400
Subject: [TR] Installing Moss headlight relay kit in a 74 TR6
In-Reply-To: <11d801d6ac97$0057c6c0$01075440$@bell.net>
References: <146393434.302733.1603820391031.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <146393434.302733.1603820391031@mail.yahoo.com>
 <11d801d6ac97$0057c6c0$01075440$@bell.net>
Message-ID: <0353EDBA-59A3-49C1-9A4A-966675053319@mi.rr.com>

Any chance you could provide a ?Link??


On Oct 27, 2020, at 3:25 PM, keithstewart at bell.net wrote:

I did this to Chris? TR6 using AAW?s relay kit. I have written an article on the installation for our club magazine and am happy to provide it to anyone interested. Just email off list. While for a slightly different configuration (the AAW kit), the main concepts are the same.
 
The direct answer to your question, from that article, is:
 
?The U/R and U/W wires (one each) run from the dimmer switch to a double snap connector sleeve near the lower front valance on the driver side. There are two similarly colour coded wires running from each double connector, one to each side, left and right. You can remove the wire coming from the dimmer switch and place the included single snap connector sleeve on this wire. The other two wires and the double connector can be removed. You can store these wires, connectors, and headlamp connectors in the event you ever want to revert to the original wiring. [CONCEPT: When the headlamp switch is turned on, power will be provided to the low beam (U/R) relay or to the high beam (U/W) relay depending on the position of the dimmer switch.]?
 
I am happy to share more details in that article.
 
Keith Stewartkeithstewart at bell.net <mailto:keithstewart at bell.net>
 
 Hi all,
 
I recently purchased a headlight relay kit from Moss and am having trouble finding the end points of where to plug it into the existing harness. The instructions are somewhat clear but I cannot seem to find the "plugin points" for the high beams/low beams. If anyone has installed one and has insights I would greatly appreciate any feedback, as I am definitely wiring challenged.
 
Thank you,
 Robert Rudolphi 
74 TR6 

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From joemato at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 15:55:12 2020
From: joemato at sbcglobal.net (JOSEPH MATO)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:55:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TR 6 wiring relay
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References: <mailman.9.1603821602.6430.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Robert, I haven't heard of anyone using relays when LED lights are used now. They are much brighter than the H4 Halogen, 2500 to 6000 Lumens. Regards, Joe? 

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Hi all,
I recently purchased a headlight relay kit from Moss and am having trouble finding the end points of where to plug it into the existing harness. The instructions are somewhat clear but I cannot seem to find the "plugin points" for the high beams/low beams. If anyone has installed one and has insights I would greatly appreciate any feedback, as I am definitely wiring challenged.
Thank you,
Robert Rudolphi?74 TR6?
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From keithstewart at bell.net  Tue Oct 27 16:07:55 2020
From: keithstewart at bell.net (keithstewart at bell.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:07:55 -0400
Subject: [TR] Installing Moss headlight relay kit in a 74 TR6
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References: <146393434.302733.1603820391031.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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The article is posted in a ?Members Only? section so a link would not work for you. I am happy to provide it to anyone who plans to install one of these relay kits.

 

Keith

 

From: Dan Cronin <adcronin at mi.rr.com> 
Sent: October 27, 2020 5:53 PM
To: keithstewart at bell.net
Cc: robert rudolphi <robertrudolphi at yahoo.com>; Triumph List <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Installing Moss headlight relay kit in a 74 TR6

 

Any chance you could provide a ?Link??

 

 

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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 10:23:15 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:23:15 -0700
Subject: [TR] Link to a Triumph Stag Power Steering rack manual
Message-ID: <CANLCLaGg3DKCxh6ktfF01GzmqAwwEmWrdamSLPUj0PBuSNW2Ug@mail.gmail.com>

If you need to rebuild your Stag's steering rack, I found a link to a
manual here.

https://cdn.triumphowners.com/wp-con...ck-Rebuild.pdf
<https://cdn.triumphowners.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20202837/Triumph-Power-Steering-Rack-Rebuild.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1wUiTsLhFTPFuh38wg1Fex_uAjUcOpJ92r5bRDXK_GZfibg1WFark9sOM>


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Cupertino, California

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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 10:38:49 2020
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:38:49 -0700
Subject: [TR] Link to a Triumph Stag Power Steering rack manual
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaGg3DKCxh6ktfF01GzmqAwwEmWrdamSLPUj0PBuSNW2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANLCLaGg3DKCxh6ktfF01GzmqAwwEmWrdamSLPUj0PBuSNW2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANLCLaFBco=vwx7kJQr1zPuFh+MHqV5Dag+_=nPFaKCS-EahFA@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the full link

https://cdn.triumphowners.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20202837/Triumph-Power-Steering-Rack-Rebuild.pdf

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 9:23 AM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you need to rebuild your Stag's steering rack, I found a link to a
> manual here.
>
> https://cdn.triumphowners.com/wp-con...ck-Rebuild.pdf
> <https://cdn.triumphowners.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20202837/Triumph-Power-Steering-Rack-Rebuild.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1wUiTsLhFTPFuh38wg1Fex_uAjUcOpJ92r5bRDXK_GZfibg1WFark9sOM>
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>   --
> Sujit Roy
>
> Cupertino, California
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct 29 11:47:23 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 17:47:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Link to a Triumph Stag Power Steering rack manual
In-Reply-To: <CANLCLaGg3DKCxh6ktfF01GzmqAwwEmWrdamSLPUj0PBuSNW2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANLCLaGg3DKCxh6ktfF01GzmqAwwEmWrdamSLPUj0PBuSNW2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
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 Cool.? Thanks.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; TTSCC at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2020 11:23 am
Subject: [TR] Link to a Triumph Stag Power Steering rack manual

If you need to rebuild your Stag's steering?rack, I found a link to a manual here.
https://cdn.triumphowners.com/wp-con...ck-Rebuild.pdf?
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From italyfound at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 18:27:00 2020
From: italyfound at gmail.com (Alex)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 20:27:00 -0400
Subject: [TR] Vacuum air hose connections
Message-ID: <F2B7A5AB-EE71-4F80-BAC2-A99758E8316A@gmail.com>

Hello all. Quick question for a TR6. There is a connector behind the carbs that the brake booster is connected to. Does any know where the smaller diameter hose connects to. 
Thanks
Alex 

Sent from my iPhone

From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat Oct 31 06:21:20 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 12:21:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Vacuum air hose connections
In-Reply-To: <F2B7A5AB-EE71-4F80-BAC2-A99758E8316A@gmail.com>
References: <F2B7A5AB-EE71-4F80-BAC2-A99758E8316A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1501854875.567650.1604146880194@mail.yahoo.com>

 You didn't say but this must be the later model TR6 as the earlier models did not have the second port.? The smaller tube connects to the Anti-Run-On valve at the front of the engine bay.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex <italyfound at gmail.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2020 7:27 pm
Subject: [TR] Vacuum air hose connections

Hello all. Quick question for a TR6. There is a connector behind the carbs that the brake booster is connected to. Does any know where the smaller diameter hose connects to. 
Thanks
Alex 

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From jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 23 13:06:29 2020
From: jeyoung_2 at yahoo.com (John Young)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:06:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] TRIUMPH PARTS FOR SALE
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Hello, Triumph people! This is Janice Morgan. I am John Young's daughter and Randall Young's sister. For those of you that don't know, my father passed away in February and my brother passed in July. It's been very hectic dealing w funerals and estates. And then wondering what we're going to do with all these cars and parts. My two mechanics have gone away. I have some engine knowledge, but not nearly enough to do something like rebuild one of these cars.?
I have many triumph parts, entire engines and cars I will need to sell. I'm not even sure of everything we have. Dad had Spitfires and TR3s. Randall had Stags and TR3s. While I don't have Randall's cars w me in Missouri, I do have assorted parts (he had moved a lot from California). Randall also helped me pack my father's garages, yes plural, when we moved from Indiana to Missouri. He had us save any Triumph part (or tool) that was not easily attainable. I have boxes and boxes of parts. And probably a lot of tools that we will never use.?
Please help me by suggesting where online to start trying to sell these parts and cars. You're my only hope, Triumph people. If any of you live anywhere nearby me in South Central Missouri or know someone that does who could help me identify and sort the parts, I would welcome the assistance. That person would likely walk away w enough parts to justify their time.
I also have a large assortment of machine shop tools, if you know anyone that is interested. I hope to contact another list of friends for those things.?
If you prefer to not be on this list, I understand, just let me know. I scavenged most of these addresses from Dad's email. If you know someone that might be interested, or friend's of my brother's, please pass the email on to them too.?
Thank you,Janice Morganyojanice at yahoo.com765-404-4017 - call or text

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