From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Mar  2 19:59:26 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 02:59:26 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3a instrument cluster
Message-ID: <680cb3476eea44aeae279cc78a93ffe5@ranteer.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLUKlP1iHkE

Has anyone seen this?  I am interested in getting one and I was wondering if anyone knows a source.

Specifically, the aluminum dash cluster on this car

[cid:image002.jpg at 01DB8BB5.FAA32960]

And this mirror mount.  I've already acquired the mirrors

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From ryel at mac.com  Mon Mar  3 09:27:26 2025
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 08:27:26 -0800
Subject: [TR] TR3a instrument cluster
In-Reply-To: <680cb3476eea44aeae279cc78a93ffe5@ranteer.com>
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Where did you acquire the side mirror?

Rye

> On Mar 2, 2025, at 6:59 PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLUKlP1iHkE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLUKlP1iHkE>
>  
> Has anyone seen this?  I am interested in getting one and I was wondering if anyone knows a source.
>  
> Specifically, the aluminum dash cluster on this car  
>  
> <image002.jpg>
>  
> And this mirror mount.  I?ve already acquired the mirrors
>  
> <image006.jpg>
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From dave at mdmackay.ca  Mon Mar  3 13:56:23 2025
From: dave at mdmackay.ca (Dave MacKay)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 15:56:23 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3a instrument cluster
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1741028402.8478.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1741028402.8478.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Dave Tushingham (cheftush on YouTube) did a video showing how he finished
his instrument cluster like that.

You can see it at: https://youtu.be/3bxb-Z6ZkDI?si=7AQkwh_MvGiqTv9G

No idea about the mirror.

Dave MacKay
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
near Toronto, Canada

>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 02:59:26 +0000
>From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
>Subject: [TR] TR3a instrument cluster
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLUKlP1iHkE
>
>Has anyone seen this?  I am interested in getting one and I was wondering
if anyone knows a source.
>
>Specifically, the aluminum dash cluster on this car
>
>[cid:image002.jpg at 01DB8BB5.FAA32960]
>
>And this mirror mount.  I've already acquired the mirrors

From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Mar 15 07:30:31 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:30:31 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3a grill needed
Message-ID: <19e95ea9dcaf44cda9426b6561482abf@ranteer.com>

Just thought I'd ask just in case

Anyone have a new or really nice grill for sale?


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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Mar 15 18:06:49 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
Subject: [TR] gage question
Message-ID: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>

I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue, including a TR4a engine that's been worked.

We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.

I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric gage.

I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler and probably cheaper.

Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny, wiring isn't an issue.

Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?
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From ryel at mac.com  Sat Mar 15 19:00:06 2025
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:00:06 -0700
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
References: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <1CD9FFC5-39BB-4C66-A97A-A5CB60BAB223@mac.com>

Dave,

As I?m putting my rebuilt engine back in my 1960 TR3A, I?m also installing all new AutoMeter gauges, and the oil pressure gauge will be electric.  I?m also adding oil temperature and volt gauges, so I have 6 gauges. Greg Solo in Santa Cruz who races a TR4 and I think he services Baby Doll, the blue Morgan that races in vintage, he?s made a bolt and banjo fitting that is along the oil journal downstream from the oil filter and oil pressure adjustment, believing it?s a more accurate source of oil pressure measurement being downstream.



I bought the fitting and the metal pipe which is pre bent to the correct shape with a tab that attaches to one of the bolts on the fuel pump threads which you can see in this photo, even though I?ve blocked off that spot and am running a Hardi electric fuel pump.

Also in this photo I temporarily hooked up the original oil line to the original gauge just to check oil pressure when I started the engine for the first time and had 70 lbs.



This is the transition. The left side in the photo is the old oil line pipe which I?m not using but has the same female fitting so I?ve included it for this photo.  Next is an adaptor to go into that female fitting, then two brass male slip fittings.  That hose is rated for oil up to 300 PSI, then to the electric sending unit.  I went with a 12? hose so the electric sending unit will be under the dash away from the heat.  Not that I really needed to do that, but why not.



Rye








> On Mar 15, 2025, at 5:06 PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that?s not an issue, including a TR4a engine that?s been worked.
>  
> We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
>  
> I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric gage.
>  
> I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler and probably cheaper.
>  
> Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny, wiring isn?t an issue.
>  
> Just looking for opinions ? keep the TR3a style or go electric?
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat Mar 15 19:16:21 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 01:16:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
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The small amount of power the gauge uses is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.? An electric radiator fan is an issue but not a gauge.
Dave 


 

    On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 07:13:31 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:   

  
I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that?s not an issue, including a TR4a engine that?s been worked.
 
 ?
 
We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.? All the gages are out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
 
 ?
 
I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric gage.
 
 ?
 
I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes through the engine compartment.? On the other hand, electric is simpler and probably cheaper.
 
 ?
 
Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny, wiring isn?t an issue.
 
 ?
 
Just looking for opinions ? keep the TR3a style or go electric?
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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Sat Mar 15 20:53:24 2025
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 19:53:24 -0700
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
References: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <005b01db961e$96ce9d70$c46bd850$@net>

Dave,

Seems like a personal choice. If it was mine, I would first see if the
electric gauge looked like it belonged, if it did, I would go that route
just because it seems more robust and easier to fix or replace should it go
bad in the future.

Bob

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave
northrup
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 5:07 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] gage question

 

I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue,
including a TR4a engine that's been worked.

 

We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are out
and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.

 

I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it
will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric
gage.

 

I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes
through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler and
probably cheaper.

 

Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny,
wiring isn't an issue.

 

Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?

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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 16 10:08:39 2025
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 16:08:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
References: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
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 keep it as is.i like the funk old way it works
Frank
    On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 05:19:25 PM PDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
  
I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that?s not an issue, including a TR4a engine that?s been worked.
 
 ?
 
We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.? All the gages are out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
 
 ?
 
I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric gage.
 
 ?
 
I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes through the engine compartment.? On the other hand, electric is simpler and probably cheaper.
 
 ?
 
Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny, wiring isn?t an issue.
 
 ?
 
Just looking for opinions ? keep the TR3a style or go electric?
 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dave at mdmackay.ca  Sun Mar 16 17:27:57 2025
From: dave at mdmackay.ca (Dave MacKay)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:27:57 -0400
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1742148002.6275.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1742148002.6275.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an electronic one,
if you can find one that looks consistent with the other gauges in the
cluster.

The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates working on the
cluster.

Dave

1960 TR3A s/n 68639
near Toronto, Canada

Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
>From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
>Subject: [TR] gage question
>
>I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue,
including a TR4a engine that's been worked.
>
>We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are
out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
>
>I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it
will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric
gage.
>
>I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes
through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler
and probably cheaper.
>
>Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny,
wiring isn't an issue.
>
>Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?

From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Mar 16 17:36:36 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 23:36:36 +0000
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <581163612.4624052.1742141319993@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <e48477c38e334a2e84e990b4904e2e25@ranteer.com>
 <581163612.4624052.1742141319993@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c0da5f97212843e78448abd83b2fb391@ranteer.com>

There are lots of options!

Even the early TR4 gages look pretty different than the TR3 gages, so what I thought might be easy was not.

I decided to ask the gage.

I figured if it worked, I would use it.  If not, given that it would need a total rebuild, I?d have it converted to electric.

It works!

I?m going old school
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From ryel at mac.com  Sun Mar 16 18:39:24 2025
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 17:39:24 -0700
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <835aa6b8badf964991772b2bc129ff84@mail.gmail.com>
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This is why I?m going with AutoMeter.  Very similar looking gauges as original.

Rye



> On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:27 PM, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca> wrote:
> 
> My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an electronic one,
> if you can find one that looks consistent with the other gauges in the
> cluster.
> 
> The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates working on the
> cluster.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
> near Toronto, Canada
> 
> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
>> From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
>> Subject: [TR] gage question
>> 
>> I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue,
> including a TR4a engine that's been worked.
>> 
>> We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are
> out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
>> 
>> I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it
> will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric
> gage.
>> 
>> I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes
> through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler
> and probably cheaper.
>> 
>> Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny,
> wiring isn't an issue.
>> 
>> Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?
> ** triumphs at autox.team.net **
> 
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From dave at mdmackay.ca  Sun Mar 16 18:54:11 2025
From: dave at mdmackay.ca (Dave MacKay)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:54:11 -0400
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <7128AFF2-8783-43C2-BFEA-350BC2099120@mac.com>
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Rye, which gauge did you find that fits your TR3 and looks consistent with
the others? AutoMeter has a lot to choose from!



Dave



1960 TR3A s/n 68639
near Toronto, Canada

*From:* Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com>
*Sent:* March 16, 2025 8:39 PM
*To:* Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca>; dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
*Cc:* triumphs at autox.team.net
*Subject:* Re: [TR] gage question



This is why I?m going with AutoMeter.  Very similar looking gauges as
original.



Rye







On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:27 PM, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca> wrote:



My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an electronic one,
if you can find one that looks consistent with the other gauges in the
cluster.

The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates working on the
cluster.

Dave

1960 TR3A s/n 68639
near Toronto, Canada

Message: 1

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Subject: [TR] gage question

I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue,

including a TR4a engine that's been worked.


We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are

out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.


I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it

will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric
gage.


I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes

through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler
and probably cheaper.


Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny,

wiring isn't an issue.


Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?

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From aljlthomson at charter.net  Sun Mar 16 18:59:47 2025
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex&Janet Thomson)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:59:47 -0400
Subject: [TR] gage question
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Make sure that the capillary tube is routed well away from the steering shaft, other wise it will get wrapped up and destroyed on full lock turns. Ask me how I know.

 

Alex Thomson

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2025 7:37 PM
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] gage question

 

There are lots of options!  

 

Even the early TR4 gages look pretty different than the TR3 gages, so what I thought might be easy was not.

 

I decided to ask the gage.

 

I figured if it worked, I would use it.  If not, given that it would need a total rebuild, I?d have it converted to electric.

 

It works!

 

I?m going old school

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From ryel at mac.com  Sun Mar 16 20:15:11 2025
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:15:11 -0700
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <1393b0e5770544efbbc7e3f27d894531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.5.1742148002.6275.triumphs@autox.team.net>
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I?ll see if I still have a box to get the part number  If I don?t, I?ll see if I can find my order on their website.  Give me a day.

And yeah, it?s pretty similar as you can see as I put the original oil pressure gauge in the photo.

Rye

> On Mar 16, 2025, at 5:54 PM, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca> wrote:
> 
> Rye, which gauge did you find that fits your TR3 and looks consistent with the others? AutoMeter has a lot to choose from!
>  
> Dave
>  
> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
> near Toronto, Canada
> 
> From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com <mailto:ryel at mac.com>> 
> Sent: March 16, 2025 8:39 PM
> To: Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca <mailto:dave at mdmackay.ca>>; dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>>
> Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] gage question
>  
> This is why I?m going with AutoMeter.  Very similar looking gauges as original.
>  
> Rye
>  
>  
> <image001.jpg>
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:27 PM, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca <mailto:dave at mdmackay.ca>> wrote:
>>  
>> My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an electronic one,
>> if you can find one that looks consistent with the other gauges in the
>> cluster.
>> 
>> The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates working on the
>> cluster.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
>> near Toronto, Canada
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> 
>>> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
>>> From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>>
>>> Subject: [TR] gage question
>>> 
>>> I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue,
>> including a TR4a engine that's been worked.
>> 
>>> 
>>> We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are
>> out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it
>> will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric
>> gage.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes
>> through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler
>> and probably cheaper.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny,
>> wiring isn't an issue.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?
>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> **
>> 
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From ryel at mac.com  Sun Mar 16 20:21:22 2025
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:21:22 -0700
Subject: [TR] gage question
In-Reply-To: <62034849-8BFA-4F1A-B100-2E4FFFFE9777@mac.com>
References: <mailman.5.1742148002.6275.triumphs@autox.team.net>
 <835aa6b8badf964991772b2bc129ff84@mail.gmail.com>
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I emailed that too quickly.  I logged on to AutoMeter with my account and found the order from 2019, so I?d imagine the prices have gone up.



I have a 2 gauge bracket I bought from AutoMeter where I?m running the original fuel gauge and amp gauge.

Rye





> On Mar 16, 2025, at 7:15 PM, Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I?ll see if I still have a box to get the part number  If I don?t, I?ll see if I can find my order on their website.  Give me a day.
> 
> And yeah, it?s pretty similar as you can see as I put the original oil pressure gauge in the photo.
> 
> Rye
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2025, at 5:54 PM, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca <mailto:dave at mdmackay.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> Rye, which gauge did you find that fits your TR3 and looks consistent with the others? AutoMeter has a lot to choose from!
>>  
>> Dave
>>  
>> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
>> near Toronto, Canada
>> 
>> From: Rye Livingston <ryel at mac.com <mailto:ryel at mac.com>> 
>> Sent: March 16, 2025 8:39 PM
>> To: Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca <mailto:dave at mdmackay.ca>>; dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>>
>> Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] gage question
>>  
>> This is why I?m going with AutoMeter.  Very similar looking gauges as original.
>>  
>> Rye
>>  
>>  
>> <image001.jpg>
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:27 PM, Dave MacKay <dave at mdmackay.ca <mailto:dave at mdmackay.ca>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> My vote would be to replace the temperature gauge with an electronic one,
>>> if you can find one that looks consistent with the other gauges in the
>>> cluster.
>>> 
>>> The old-style gauge is expensive to repair and complicates working on the
>>> cluster.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639
>>> near Toronto, Canada
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> 
>>>> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:06:49 +0000
>>>> From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>>
>>>> Subject: [TR] gage question
>>>> 
>>>> I have a 59TR3a that will be far from original so that's not an issue,
>>> including a TR4a engine that's been worked.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We just pulled the small gage cluster to rework it.  All the gages are
>>> out and will be sent to West Valley Instruments to be refurbished/rebuilt.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have the option of keeping the temperature gage as is (I checked and it
>>> will thread into the rebuilt engine) or having it redone as an electric
>>> gage.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I kind of like the funny old gage with its funny old piping that goes
>>> through the engine compartment.  On the other hand, electric is simpler
>>> and probably cheaper.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Since the car has an alternator and backup lights off the TR6 OD tranny,
>>> wiring isn't an issue.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just looking for opinions - keep the TR3a style or go electric?
>>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> **
>>> 
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From perryfly at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 07:36:10 2025
From: perryfly at gmail.com (Perry Hammock)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 09:36:10 -0400
Subject: [TR] Gauges
Message-ID: <5409604E-8C2F-4BD4-8263-3E7EFFFBBC88@gmail.com>

Good morning!
I do have the original oil pressure gauge in my TR3 - I like the domed glass gauges as they have that extra bit of elan the is so precious in our cars

I have a later tr4 electric temp gauge - and have an original tr3 gauge on the shelf - sadly I cant get the sender out of the thermostat housing, nor the housing off the car - be sure to put some anti seize on whatever connection you end up with - the dissimilar metals bond quite nicely - lol
I did change out the glass and trim ring in the temp gauge so they match
Also, like you, I have an alternator and will replace my ammeter with a voltmeter I got from a Smiths supplier in England - they replaced the trim ring and glass to match my old gauges.
Just my 2 pence worth - 
Perry 

From ryel at mac.com  Mon Mar 17 09:10:04 2025
From: ryel at mac.com (Rye Livingston)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 08:10:04 -0700
Subject: [TR] Gauges
In-Reply-To: <5409604E-8C2F-4BD4-8263-3E7EFFFBBC88@gmail.com>
References: <5409604E-8C2F-4BD4-8263-3E7EFFFBBC88@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DE847F-690A-44B6-8346-A5F3B4D673D4@mac.com>

Interesting that the original gauges in my TR3, or I should say the gauges that were in the car when I got it, are Jaeger and they are not domed.

Rye

> On Mar 17, 2025, at 6:36 AM, Perry Hammock <perryfly at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good morning!
> I do have the original oil pressure gauge in my TR3 - I like the domed glass gauges as they have that extra bit of elan the is so precious in our cars
> 
> I have a later tr4 electric temp gauge - and have an original tr3 gauge on the shelf - sadly I cant get the sender out of the thermostat housing, nor the housing off the car - be sure to put some anti seize on whatever connection you end up with - the dissimilar metals bond quite nicely - lol
> I did change out the glass and trim ring in the temp gauge so they match
> Also, like you, I have an alternator and will replace my ammeter with a voltmeter I got from a Smiths supplier in England - they replaced the trim ring and glass to match my old gauges.
> Just my 2 pence worth - 
> Perry 
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 23 19:20:30 2025
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 01:20:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] test.
References: <794420386.959082.1742779230054.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <794420386.959082.1742779230054@mail.yahoo.com>

been getting cannot deliver mesages.is everything ok?
Frank
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Mar 23 22:48:30 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 22:48:30 -0600
Subject: [TR] test.
In-Reply-To: <794420386.959082.1742779230054@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <794420386.959082.1742779230054.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <794420386.959082.1742779230054@mail.yahoo.com>
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On 3/23/25 7:20 PM, Frank Fisher wrote:
> been getting cannot deliver mesages.
> is everything ok?
>

I don't quite understand this.  Are you saying that when you send an 
email to triumphs at autox.team.net you are getting error messages from 
somewhere saying the email can not be delivered?  If this is the case, 
can you forward one of the error messages to me?  Doesn't sound like 
anything the Team Net server would do.

mjb.



From aljlthomson at charter.net  Mon Mar 24 04:18:28 2025
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex&Janet Thomson)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 06:18:28 -0400
Subject: [TR] test.
In-Reply-To: <c0157098-0997-450f-ad52-0c116dd5fedc@bradakis.com>
References: <794420386.959082.1742779230054.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <794420386.959082.1742779230054@mail.yahoo.com>
 <c0157098-0997-450f-ad52-0c116dd5fedc@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <000101db9ca6$16859900$4390cb00$@charter.net>

This one came through at 1:07 this morning.

Alex Thomson

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 12:49 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] test.

On 3/23/25 7:20 PM, Frank Fisher wrote:
> been getting cannot deliver mesages.
> is everything ok?
>

I don't quite understand this.  Are you saying that when you send an email
to triumphs at autox.team.net you are getting error messages from somewhere
saying the email can not be delivered?  If this is the case, can you forward
one of the error messages to me?  Doesn't sound like anything the Team Net
server would do.

mjb.


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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 24 17:53:01 2025
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 23:53:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] triumph for sale
References: <1090052321.1412861.1742860381453.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1090052321.1412861.1742860381453@mail.yahoo.com>

my friend has a GT6 that was once an scca race car.he purchased it with the intent of returning it to a street car.age and mobility have overcome him, so he now feels he must put it up for sale.originaly a california car it has no rot. a little surface rust where the paint may have come off.the car is located near los angeles california.if your going to put it back on the street, the motor may need a little de-tuning..or just love the way i would. :-)huge $$ spent on the motor. reciptes available.all the glass is there, new street seats that are re-upholstered and door cards re-upholstered.its not going to take much to put this back to a sweet driving machine.steal the car at #3000.00
pics if you want.
Frank
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Wed Mar 26 14:35:57 2025
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:35:57 +0000
Subject: [TR] No names, no pack drill.
Message-ID: <1D25DFE8-5B9C-47EA-8777-753C2B0D8FFC@gmx.com>

I was cleaning out my spam and junk mail folder today and had a quiet chuckle to myself.
There?s a bloke in this world whose company makes electric cars and it seems that in the UK he?s not exactly flavour of the month at the moment. That to one side, the email informed me of a number of ?demonstrations? scheduled to take place this coming weekend at showrooms selling the electric cars aforesaid. I quickly scanned the various locations and laughed out loud when I saw the event planned for West London.

 It?s going to be at 153 Dukes Road, Park Royal, London W3.

So what?s in an address?

It just happens that 153 Dukes Road, Park Royal, London W3 is the exact same address of Standard-Triumph?s London Service Division which I visited on many occasions in my mis-spent ?swinging sixties? youth in the days when interesting cars were made. 

The old place which had a special corner in my heart is now demolished with new buildings in its place.

I don?t plan or wish to attend the forthcoming event but it would be fun to turn up in my much-loved and greatly missed former TR5 with its chronic pressure relief valve warble and ask whoever I met if Jeff Hancock (the Lucas injection guru) was available to sort out my dilemma?

Bless him, Jeff?s been dead these many years, as has my gorgeous Valencia Blue bolide, but it would be nice to be there in spirit with car and Jeff - and without a protest placard. I could just sit there revving the engine and send clouds of over-rich carbon monoxide into the gathered crowd. That *would* be fun.

Jonmac

From anncarletta at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 13:02:34 2025
From: anncarletta at yahoo.com (Ann Carletta)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 19:02:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Anyone know someone to work on a TR3A in North Jersey?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1743098402.1688.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1743098402.1688.triumphs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <630387235.1453103.1743102154849@mail.yahoo.com>

 Time for some work on my 1960 TR3A.? All the guys who worked on these cars have closed up shop or don't have time to work on these cars.? Does anyone know someone in the Northern NJ area that is up for the challenge?? She runs, I drive her, but I need to address leaking carb, maybe new radiator, oil leak (but when hasn't there been one, I just add oil), steering...more than just a spring tune-up.
Ann Carletta1960 (or 59?) TR3A1965 Daimler V8, 2.5L (she's for sale!)2012 Jaguar, XF (also for sale)2017 Jaguar F-Type
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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 27 15:16:18 2025
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 16:16:18 -0500
Subject: [TR] No names, no pack drill.
In-Reply-To: <1D25DFE8-5B9C-47EA-8777-753C2B0D8FFC@gmx.com>
References: <1D25DFE8-5B9C-47EA-8777-753C2B0D8FFC@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <7A2CB142-944B-4A31-B071-A9B327C09082@yahoo.com>

Wonderful memories John, Thank you!
Bill B

?Obstacles are all you see when you take your eyes off the goal?  H. Ford

On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:40?PM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:

?I was cleaning out my spam and junk mail folder today and had a quiet chuckle to myself.
There?s a bloke in this world whose company makes electric cars and it seems that in the UK he?s not exactly flavour of the month at the moment. That to one side, the email informed me of a number of ?demonstrations? scheduled to take place this coming weekend at showrooms selling the electric cars aforesaid. I quickly scanned the various locations and laughed out loud when I saw the event planned for West London.

It?s going to be at 153 Dukes Road, Park Royal, London W3.

So what?s in an address?

It just happens that 153 Dukes Road, Park Royal, London W3 is the exact same address of Standard-Triumph?s London Service Division which I visited on many occasions in my mis-spent ?swinging sixties? youth in the days when interesting cars were made.

The old place which had a special corner in my heart is now demolished with new buildings in its place.

I don?t plan or wish to attend the forthcoming event but it would be fun to turn up in my much-loved and greatly missed former TR5 with its chronic pressure relief valve warble and ask whoever I met if Jeff Hancock (the Lucas injection guru) was available to sort out my dilemma?

Bless him, Jeff?s been dead these many years, as has my gorgeous Valencia Blue bolide, but it would be nice to be there in spirit with car and Jeff - and without a protest placard. I could just sit there revving the engine and send clouds of over-rich carbon monoxide into the gathered crowd. That *would* be fun.

Jonmac
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From pethier7 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 27 16:00:47 2025
From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 17:00:47 -0500
Subject: [TR] No names, no pack drill.
In-Reply-To: <1D25DFE8-5B9C-47EA-8777-753C2B0D8FFC@gmx.com>
References: <1D25DFE8-5B9C-47EA-8777-753C2B0D8FFC@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <CAE16_w3JuQ9yBq9_2dDbMm1tg1ET2xxCR6=mAjcNzvFbZZ0_ww@mail.gmail.com>

Good on ya!

On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 3:43?PM John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
wrote:

> I was cleaning out my spam and junk mail folder today and had a quiet
> chuckle to myself.
> There?s a bloke in this world whose company makes electric cars and it
> seems that in the UK he?s not exactly flavour of the month at the moment.
> That to one side, the email informed me of a number of ?demonstrations?
> scheduled to take place this coming weekend at showrooms selling the
> electric cars aforesaid. I quickly scanned the various locations and
> laughed out loud when I saw the event planned for West London.
>
>  It?s going to be at 153 Dukes Road, Park Royal, London W3.
>
> So what?s in an address?
>
> It just happens that 153 Dukes Road, Park Royal, London W3 is the exact
> same address of Standard-Triumph?s London Service Division which I visited
> on many occasions in my mis-spent ?swinging sixties? youth in the days when
> interesting cars were made.
>
> The old place which had a special corner in my heart is now demolished
> with new buildings in its place.
>
> I don?t plan or wish to attend the forthcoming event but it would be fun
> to turn up in my much-loved and greatly missed former TR5 with its chronic
> pressure relief valve warble and ask whoever I met if Jeff Hancock (the
> Lucas injection guru) was available to sort out my dilemma?
>
> Bless him, Jeff?s been dead these many years, as has my gorgeous Valencia
> Blue bolide, but it would be nice to be there in spirit with car and Jeff -
> and without a protest placard. I could just sit there revving the engine
> and send clouds of over-rich carbon monoxide into the gathered crowd. That
> *would* be fun.
>
> Jonmac
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>
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From lherault at verizon.net  Fri Mar 28 18:01:49 2025
From: lherault at verizon.net (Ron L"Herault)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 20:01:49 -0400
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 18, Issue 23
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1743184802.32287.triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5.1743184802.32287.triumphs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <002b01dba03d$c5958000$50c08000$@verizon.net>

Maybe these guys can help:

https://njtriumphs.org/



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2025 2:00 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 18, Issue 23

   1. Anyone know someone to work on a TR3A in North Jersey?
      (Ann Carletta)