From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu May  1 04:39:34 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 10:39:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Rocker feed screw.
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I may be.? I forgot exactly which ones they were, that was 12 years ago.? What I do remember is that I broke the one tap of importance so now I'm sunk.? But the odds that I'll need it again before I die are pretty low.
Dave 


 

    On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 11:14:04 PM CDT, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Are you referring to the?Tenax studs on the?windscreen?frame, Dave?? I'd have guessed those were BA threaded.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:35?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

There are Whitworth fasteners used on the TR3 windshield.? I bought a set of Whitworth taps and dies when I restored my windscreen for that reason.? But, no, that is not the engine.
Dave 


 

    On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 05:34:25 PM CDT, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:   

 I'm not aware of any Whitworth threads installed by S-T (at least on a sidescreen car).? There may be some Whitworth and BA threads on bought-in components, like SU carbs, Smiths, and possibly some Lucas.? But I'll be shocked sh*tless to learn legit Withworth threads?were used in a S-T engine.
Jonmac, I'd never heard that metric and inch fasteners?were used on the line at the same time depending on the end market for the vehicle.? That's a fascinating bit of trivia, and one of the reasons we love having you here!? What time period are you talking about for that?? Maybe 1970s?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 4:27?PM John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:

I have my doubts about the offending item having Whitworth ancestry. While I?ve long been a Whitworth advocate and enthusiast (for purely patriotic reasons) I think it might be worth going down a metric route. There was a time when the factory briefly reverted to metric hardware that was market specific for European build. Needless to say, certain bits of hardware went where they shouldn?t (or inadvertently wound up there). Might this be a possible avenue to explore? Evaluate metric fine and coarse pitch threads.

Jonmac
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu May  1 08:14:22 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 14:14:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 18, Issue 45
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Cool.? Thanks.
Dave 


 

    On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 10:52:11 PM CDT, John Finlayson <john_finlayson at telus.net> wrote:   

 Have you tried British Tools Fasteners? I have not purchased anything from them but have reviewed their website.?This is their help page.
British Fastener Specs?
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 13:10:10 -0500
From: Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
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The locating screw is smaller than 1/4 inch.? Hard to tell that in the 
picture below.? More like a #12 screw.

The locating screw seems to screw into a M6x1 sizer at the hardware 
store.? But strangely a M6x1 bolt won's screw into the hole.

It appears to be 27tpi according to my gauge.

Looks very close to m5x.8

Thanks,
Roger

On 4/28/25 21:28, aribert neumann wrote:
> The screw?is 1/4 inch.? I don't remember if fine thread: 28 tpi or 
> coarse thread:20 tpi? ? ? ? For grins, I would get a known M6x1 
> fastener and see if it threads in.
>
>
>
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date:?Sun, 27 Apr 2025 18:20:35 -0500
> Subject:?[TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
> Anyone know what size the rocker shaft locating screw is? I just
> received a rocker shaft that the screw will not go into. Checked with
> drill bits.? An 11/64 drill bit would go into old rocker shafts easily,
> but not into the new one.
>
> Shouldn't make any difference, but this is for a GT6 mark 1.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger Elliott
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 23:34:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
To: "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>,? Roger
? ? ? ? Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
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Moss lists these as?
https://mossmotors.com/323-215-screw-shaft-locating
It may be whitworth or something.
Dave 




? ? On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 02:34:18 PM CDT, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:? ?


The locating screw is smaller than 1/4 inch.? Hard to tell that in the picture below.? More like a #12 screw.


The locating screw seems to screw into a M6x1 sizer at the hardware store.? But strangely a M6x1 bolt won's screw into the hole.? 


It appears to be 27tpi according to my gauge.? 


Looks very close to m5x.8


Thanks,
?Roger

? On 4/28/25 21:28, aribert neumann wrote:


?The screw?is 1/4 inch.? I don't remember if fine thread: 28 tpi or coarse thread:20 tpi? ? ? ? For grins, I would get a known M6x1 fastener and see if it threads in. 



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?From:?Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net>
?To:?triumphs at autox.team.net
?Cc:?
?Bcc:?
?Date:?Sun, 27 Apr 2025 18:20:35 -0500
?Subject:?[TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
?Anyone know what size the rocker shaft locating screw is? I just
?received a rocker shaft that the screw will not go into.? Checked with
?drill bits.? An 11/64 drill bit would go into old rocker shafts easily,
?but not into the new one.

?Shouldn't make any difference, but this is for a GT6 mark 1.

?Thanks,
?Roger Elliott 
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From: Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net>
To: "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
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Thanks Dave,

I have a couple of the screws. (though mine have a Pozidriv head 
instead.? The problem is I have 2 rocker shafts that were tapped for the 
wrong size. So, I am trying to figure out if I could tap them to the 
right size.

What I said on a previous post was wrong.? I went back to a hardware 
store and the locating screw slid right into the M6x1 tester with out 
having to turn it.? So it is smaller than that. It would not go into a M5x.8

I suspect you are right about it being a Whitworth.

Thanks,
Roger

On 4/29/25 18:34, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> Moss lists these as
>
> https://mossmotors.com/323-215-screw-shaft-locating
>
> It may be whitworth or something.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 02:34:18 PM CDT, Roger Elliott 
> <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:
>
>
> The locating screw is smaller than 1/4 inch.? Hard to tell that in the 
> picture below.? More like a #12 screw.
>
> The locating screw seems to screw into a M6x1 sizer at the hardware 
> store.? But strangely a M6x1 bolt won's screw into the hole.
>
> It appears to be 27tpi according to my gauge.
>
> Looks very close to m5x.8
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
> On 4/28/25 21:28, aribert neumann wrote:
> The screw?is 1/4 inch.? I don't remember if fine thread: 28 tpi or 
> coarse thread:20 tpi ? For grins, I would get a known M6x1 fastener 
> and see if it threads in.
>
>
>
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:?Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net <mailto:elliottr at rmi.net>>
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date:?Sun, 27 Apr 2025 18:20:35 -0500
> Subject:?[TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
> Anyone know what size the rocker shaft locating screw is? I just
> received a rocker shaft that the screw will not go into.? Checked with
> drill bits.? An 11/64 drill bit would go into old rocker shafts easily,
> but not into the new one.
>
> Shouldn't make any difference, but this is for a GT6 mark 1.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger Elliott
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From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
To: "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>,? Roger
? ? ? ? Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net>
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Wikipedia has a fairly comprehensive page on Whitworth bolts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
It looks like it might be a 7/32 which is between M5 and M6.? Good luck finding one of those.
Moss has them and Rimmer Brothers have them (part no 104859).? I suspect there is one old bloke in the Lake District who still has the tooling and is making them in his retirement.? Such was the nature of the British Auto Industry in the early years after the war.
Seriously, I'll bet Rimmer contracted a large quantity (1,000?) be produced and sold half of them to Moss.
But these are hex head rather than Pozidrive.? I have only a passing familiarity with machine shop operations but I suspect that making the hex head version is much easier to make using an NC lathe and hexagonal feed stock.? Making a Pozidrive (or even Philips) would require a stamping operation to form the head.? If you insist on Pozidrive maybe you can arrange a swap with someone who has a Pozidrive screw and is willing to use the hex head.
Dave 




? ? On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 07:30:40 PM CDT, Roger Elliott <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:? ?


Thanks Dave,


I have a couple of the screws. (though mine have a Pozidriv head instead.? The problem is I have 2 rocker shafts that were tapped for the wrong size. So, I am trying to figure out if I could tap them to the right size.


What I said on a previous post was wrong.? I went back to a hardware store and the locating screw slid right into the M6x1 tester with out having to turn it.? So it is smaller than that.? It would not go into a M5x.8


I suspect you are right about it being a Whitworth.


Thanks,
?Roger

?On 4/29/25 18:34, DAVID MASSEY wrote:


? Moss lists these as? 
? https://mossmotors.com/323-215-screw-shaft-locating 
? It may be whitworth or something. 
? ? ?Dave 



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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu May  1 09:49:51 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 15:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Rocker feed screw.
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I seem to recall that the starter bolt was unique.? Thanks for confirming that.??
Dave 


 

    On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 08:42:28 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:   

 
I do believe that the float bowl top bolts and the bolt on the starter are Whitworth on the sidescreen cars
 
 ?
 
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Don Hiscock
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2025 6:26 PM
To: John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Rocker feed screw.
 
 ?
 
Thanks, Jonmac.? Most likely Sweden mandated a move to zinc and away from cadmium.? Cadmium plating has some health and environmental risks that are lessened with zinc plating.
 
 ?
 
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 5:20?PM John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:
 

Don,
 
 ?
 
It came about as I recall sometime in the late 60s when I was working for the company in London. What started it (IIRC) was when there was an engineering change bulletin brought about by Sweden requiring cadmium plated fasteners instead of zinc, or t?other way about on all cars for Sweden. That allegedly precipitated the Belgian assembly plant seeking to use metric fasteners in certain areas, though not all, in their build sequencing. Coventry still built quite a lot of components that went into the kits for Belgium and for a while, most if not all cars going to Sweden were built in Belgium. Later on, Sweden destined cars reverted to UK build and I think it all died a very quick death and we reverted to imperial standard, apart from the cadmium and zinc issue which remained in place. However, it wasn?t plain sailing all the way in the Coventry and London service departments because the fitters started moaning about not having appropriate sized sockets and spanner?s for oddball UK home market cars that found their way in with strange metric hardware. All in all, one humongous cock-up all round and I don?t think anyone was sure who had suggested it all in the first place. Probably some acne ridden long-haired lout just out of university with a Divinity degree and who wanted to make his mark and change the world. Quite likely the same person was later moved into Purchasing and decided to change the metallurgical spec for Stag cylinder heads - and that?s somewhere no-one needs to go, EVER!
 
 ?
 
Jonmac
 

On 30 Apr 2025, at 23:34, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock at gmail.com> wrote:
 

I'm not aware of any Whitworth threads installed by S-T (at least on a sidescreen car).? There may be some Whitworth and BA threads on bought-in components, like SU carbs, Smiths, and possibly some Lucas.? But I'll be shocked sh*tless to learn legit Withworth threads?were used in a S-T engine.
 
 ?
 
Jonmac, I'd never heard that metric and inch fasteners?were used on the line at the same time depending on the end market for the vehicle.? That's a fascinating bit of trivia, and one of the reasons we love having you here!? What time period are you talking about for that?? Maybe 1970s?
 
 ?
 
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 4:27?PM John Macartney <johnbmacartney at gmx.com> wrote:
 

I have my doubts about the offending item having Whitworth ancestry. While I?ve long been a Whitworth advocate and enthusiast (for purely patriotic reasons) I think it might be worth going down a metric route. There was a time when the factory briefly reverted to metric hardware that was market specific for European build. Needless to say, certain bits of hardware went where they shouldn?t (or inadvertently wound up there). Might this be a possible avenue to explore? Evaluate metric fine and coarse pitch threads.

Jonmac
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From elliottr at rmi.net  Thu May  1 10:46:48 2025
From: elliottr at rmi.net (Roger Elliott)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 11:46:48 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR] Rocker Shaft locating screw
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One thing I should have mentioned, if any of you are ordering rocker 
shafts for Vitesse or GT6 mark 1 (part #214562) have whoever you are 
ordering from make sure that locating screw (part #104859) fits in.? 
There is at least one batch of rocker shafts that were tapped 
incorrectly.? Rimmer Bros and SpitBits know about the problem.

Roger

On 4/30/25 06:58, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> Wikipedia has a fairly comprehensive page on Whitworth bolts
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
>
> It looks like it might be a 7/32 which is between M5 and M6.? Good 
> luck finding one of those.
>
> Moss has them and Rimmer Brothers have them (part no 104859).? I 
> suspect there is one old bloke in the Lake District who still has the 
> tooling and is making them in his retirement.? Such was the nature of 
> the British Auto Industry in the early years after the war.
>
> Seriously, I'll bet Rimmer contracted a large quantity (1,000?) be 
> produced and sold half of them to Moss.
>
> But these are hex head rather than Pozidrive.? I have only a passing 
> familiarity with machine shop operations but I suspect that making the 
> hex head version is much easier to make using an NC lathe and 
> hexagonal feed stock.? Making a Pozidrive (or even Philips) would 
> require a stamping operation to form the head.? If you insist on 
> Pozidrive maybe you can arrange a swap with someone who has a 
> Pozidrive screw and is willing to use the hex head.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 07:30:40 PM CDT, Roger Elliott 
> <elliottr at rmi.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Dave,
>
> I have a couple of the screws. (though mine have a Pozidriv head 
> instead.? The problem is I have 2 rocker shafts that were tapped for 
> the wrong size. So, I am trying to figure out if I could tap them to 
> the right size.
>
> What I said on a previous post was wrong.? I went back to a hardware 
> store and the locating screw slid right into the M6x1 tester with out 
> having to turn it.? So it is smaller than that.? It would not go into 
> a M5x.8
>
> I suspect you are right about it being a Whitworth.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
> On 4/29/25 18:34, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> Moss lists these as
>
> https://mossmotors.com/323-215-screw-shaft-locating 
> <https://mossmotors.com/323-215-screw-shaft-locating>
>
> It may be whitworth or something.
>
> Dave
>
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Fri May  9 14:15:40 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 20:15:40 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
Message-ID: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>

first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.

the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.

i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks

the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.

when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.

not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.
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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Fri May  9 14:37:53 2025
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2025 20:37:53 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
Message-ID: <31911746-4ade-0c42-bd66-5306fd743b49@earthlink.net>

I'm guessing that you need a digital flasher.  The old school flasher modules rely on the current of a light bulb to heat a metal strip that breaks then makes the circuit.  LED bulbs don't flow enough current.

Maybe something like this:
https://mossmotors.com/141-748-flasher-unit-2-prong-electronic-w-bracket

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Sent: May 9, 2025 1:18 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6

first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.  
 
the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.
 
i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks
 
the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.  
 
when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.
 
not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.



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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Fri May  9 14:49:28 2025
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard uprichard.net)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 20:49:28 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <DS7PR07MB76556C4D42B358B0D1F192D6CA8AA@DS7PR07MB7655.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

"am looking for direction" - how appropriate !

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2025 4:16 PM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6

first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.

the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.

i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks

the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.

when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.

not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat May 10 05:32:47 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 11:32:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>

<<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.? when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.>>Is this what you meant to say?? Do the left lights flash when the switch is in either direction?? If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.
Dave 


 

    On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:   

  
first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.?
 
 ?
 
the blinkers were working previously.? the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.
 
 ?
 
i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.? If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks
 
 ?
 
the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.?
 
 ?
 
when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.? when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.
 
 ?
 
not sure where to go from here.? am looking for direction.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat May 10 06:35:50 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 12:35:50 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>,
 <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>

No flash.  Just solid light,  same side either up or down


-------- Original message --------
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Date: 5/10/25 6:32 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: triumphs at autox.team.net, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

<<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.>>
Is this what you meant to say?  Do the left lights flash when the switch is in either direction?  If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.

Dave




On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.



the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.



i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks



the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.



when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.



not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat May 10 07:58:32 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 13:58:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
 <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
 <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <692972570.3731030.1746885512769@mail.yahoo.com>

You said you bypassed the eme flasher switch.? Did you disconnect every wire on that switch or are some still connected?

Sent from AOL on Android 
 
  On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 7:36, dave northrup<dave at ranteer.com> wrote:   No flash.? Just solid light,? same side either up or down

-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> Date: 5/10/25 6:32 AM (GMT-06:00) To: triumphs at autox.team.net, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6 
<<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.? when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.>>Is this what you meant to say?? Do the left lights flash when the switch is in either direction?? If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.
Dave 




On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:


first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.?

?

the blinkers were working previously.? the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.

?

i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.? If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks

?

the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.?

?

when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.? when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.

?

not sure where to go from here.? am looking for direction.
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From cliff_hansen at outlook.com  Sat May 10 08:38:16 2025
From: cliff_hansen at outlook.com (Cliff Hansen)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 14:38:16 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <692972570.3731030.1746885512769@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
 <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
 <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>
 <692972570.3731030.1746885512769@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BY5PR16MB32698C680EA0DF042B9C04E2FA95A@BY5PR16MB3269.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

Dave R.,

So the parts test fine, but when assembled the system doesn't work.

My guess: a grounding issue. Based on 3 minutes of Google, that's all I got.

Cliff

________________________________
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 7:58 AM
To: dave at ranteer.com <dave at ranteer.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

You said you bypassed the eme flasher switch.  Did you disconnect every wire on that switch or are some still connected?

Sent from AOL on Android<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp>

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 7:36, dave northrup
<dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
No flash.  Just solid light,  same side either up or down


-------- Original message --------
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Date: 5/10/25 6:32 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: triumphs at autox.team.net, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

<<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.>>
Is this what you meant to say?  Do the left lights flash when the switch is in either direction?  If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.

Dave




On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.



the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.



i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks



the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.



when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.



not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.

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From peterara at msn.com  Sat May 10 10:14:00 2025
From: peterara at msn.com (Peter Arakelian)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 16:14:00 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>,
 <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
 <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <SJ5PPFD91589D79EFD99195F1BF2CFB7E68C195A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Do you have ballast in the turn signal circuit?  Right and left sides are connected by the indictor light in the speedo.  If not enough resistance in the circuit, current will bleed through to the other side causing odd combinations of lighting.  Either get ballasts or as a test, replace the front Leds with incandescent.  They will provide enough resistance to correct for the cross-bleed.  In mine I just have Leds in the rear, so it works for me.

________________________________
From: Triumphs on behalf of dave northrup
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:35 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

No flash.  Just solid light,  same side either up or down


-------- Original message --------
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Date: 5/10/25 6:32 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: triumphs at autox.team.net, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

<<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.>>
Is this what you meant to say?  Do the left lights flash when the switch is in either direction?  If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.

Dave




On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.



the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.



i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks



the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.



when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.



not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.

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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat May 10 10:37:41 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 16:37:41 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <SJ5PPFD91589D79EFD99195F1BF2CFB7E68C195A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>,
 <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
 <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>,
 <SJ5PPFD91589D79EFD99195F1BF2CFB7E68C195A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <7407798bb74148178ed9e17aead9487c@ranteer.com>

I will try incandescents,  but I'm not sure why i need "ballasts."  The flasher unit, and all bulbs are LED.  And, btw, the trafficator bulb in the speedo has not worked for years,  even when the blinkers worked properly


-------- Original message --------
From: Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com>
Date: 5/10/25 11:14 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>, triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

Do you have ballast in the turn signal circuit?  Right and left sides are connected by the indictor light in the speedo.  If not enough resistance in the circuit, current will bleed through to the other side causing odd combinations of lighting.  Either get ballasts or as a test, replace the front Leds with incandescent.  They will provide enough resistance to correct for the cross-bleed.  In mine I just have Leds in the rear, so it works for me.

________________________________
From: Triumphs on behalf of dave northrup
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:35 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY; triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

No flash.  Just solid light,  same side either up or down


-------- Original message --------
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Date: 5/10/25 6:32 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: triumphs at autox.team.net, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6

<<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.>>
Is this what you meant to say?  Do the left lights flash when the switch is in either direction?  If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.

Dave




On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:



first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.



the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i replaced it.



i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with a test light it blinks



the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.



when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights just stay on.



not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.

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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Sat May 10 12:39:57 2025
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 14:39:57 -0400
Subject: [TR] 1972 TR6
In-Reply-To: <7407798bb74148178ed9e17aead9487c@ranteer.com>
References: <f0cc0638c0a140e9bd6a06865a74b4f8@ranteer.com>
 <559962506.3689834.1746876767472@mail.yahoo.com>
 <19037ecf74b441138b72f854858ed671@ranteer.com>
 <SJ5PPFD91589D79EFD99195F1BF2CFB7E68C195A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <7407798bb74148178ed9e17aead9487c@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CADK3t96MfHANzmLPxHhw_TzhYQJvN_xMi4kh-2rEZwJWM+1O0A@mail.gmail.com>

If you have Dan Masters book on Triumph electrical maintenance check the
section on turn signals and hazard circuits.
Also the 72 circuit is different from any other. They all are very
dependent on good grounds . Especially on the rear TR6
bulbs that don't ground very well. They also depend on the correct wattage
of the bulbs especially the indicator bulb in the
speedometer. They all allow the flasher to work correctly and at the
correct speed. It is the load on the flasher that gets it to
work correctly. A missing ground at the rear will cause the other side to
light when not wanted. A burnt out indicator bulb
in the speedometer will also cause strange happenings.
The hazard switch on the 72 is different from any other.
Moss numbers:
68-71   635-600
72         635-610
73-76   635-620

   Dean Tetterton


On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:39?PM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> I will try incandescents,  but I'm not sure why i need "ballasts."  The
> flasher unit, and all bulbs are LED.  And, btw, the trafficator bulb in the
> speedo has not worked for years,  even when the blinkers worked properly
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com>
> Date: 5/10/25 11:14 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>,
> triumphs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6
>
> Do you have ballast in the turn signal circuit?  Right and left sides are
> connected by the indictor light in the speedo.  If not enough resistance in
> the circuit, current will bleed through to the other side causing odd
> combinations of lighting.  Either get ballasts or as a test, replace the
> front Leds with incandescent.  They will provide enough resistance to
> correct for the cross-bleed.  In mine I just have Leds in the rear, so it
> works for me.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Triumphs on behalf of dave northrup
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:35 AM
> *To:* DAVID MASSEY; triumphs at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] 1972 TR6
>
> No flash.  Just solid light,  same side either up or down
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Date: 5/10/25 6:32 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 TR6
>
> <<when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker
> lights just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and
> rear blinker lights just stay on.>>
> Is this what you meant to say?  Do the left lights flash when the switch
> is in either direction?  If so, double check the turn signal switch wiring
> and make sure the GW, GR and LG/N wires are connected correctly.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 03:25:23 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> first - the flasher switch went bad years ago so it has been bypassed.
>
>
>
> the blinkers were working previously.  the blinker module was bad and i
> replaced it.
>
>
>
> i have tested the new blinker module - it is LED as are most of the lights
> on the car - it works.  If I go from the module to the battery ground with
> a test light it blinks
>
>
>
> the blinker switch, according to my continuity tester, works.
>
>
>
> when i turn on the right blinker, the left front and rear blinker lights
> just stay on.  when i turn on the left blinker, the left front and rear
> blinker lights just stay on.
>
>
>
> not sure where to go from here.  am looking for direction.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun May 11 09:37:23 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 15:37:23 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
Message-ID: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>

This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven't seen that for years.

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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Sun May 11 10:41:22 2025
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 12:41:22 -0400
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CADK3t95mkvWT-LC-0zWMocRZmM1J6Lf4tk3191GgtQvDh6AJZg@mail.gmail.com>

The way the circuit is designed it is very dependent on the correct amp
draw through
the tied together circuits. The incorrect wattage of bulbs or a bad ground
causes problems.
With regular bulbs in front and led in back you perhaps hit on the correct
amp draw to
work. The circuit also depends on just the right flasher.

Now that you have it working, make sure you use the same wattage bulbs when
you change one
or the flasher.

Dean


On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 11:56?AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced
> the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.
>
>
>
> Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a
> bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for
> years.
>
>
>
> Now the blinkers work as they should.
>
>
>
>
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From peterara at msn.com  Sun May 11 11:04:39 2025
From: peterara at msn.com (Peter Arakelian)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 17:04:39 +0000
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
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As I said before.  the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indicator to the other bulbs.  Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more brightly since they can draw more - mine did.
________________________________
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem


This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.



Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for years.



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From grglmn at gmail.com  Sun May 11 11:05:50 2025
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 12:05:50 -0500
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CAFtw3aY_zhuk_ep4NsU9hhqeU8PykJ3=acJ+=fnEXsbxwKxuZA@mail.gmail.com>

I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn
signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I
can see it blinking in the sun).

They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple
incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front of
me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.

Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you
ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.

Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my Ford Ranger, the Ford
Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a
flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem solved.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59?AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced
> the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.
>
>
>
> Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a
> bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for
> years.
>
>
>
> Now the blinkers work as they should.
>
>
>
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun May 11 12:34:39 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 18:34:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <1385311110.744648.1746988479304@mail.yahoo.com>

It looks like the flasher unit is a current-sensitive type and needs at least one incandescent bulb to flash.??
The dash indicator makes perfect sense since it is an incandescent bulb itself.? It works by providing a current path from the active flasher circuit to the other.? The dash bulb requires much less current to light than the actual turn signals so the current going through the dash bulb flows through the inactive turn signal bulbs but the current is too low to light the bulbs.? Replacing the incandescent bulbs with LED's discombobulates the voltage distribution in the circuit and it is quite likely that both turn right and left signals were flashing with the turn signal stalk in either position.??
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 11:01:07 AM CDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:   

  
This makes no sense to me.? Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.? The rear already had them.
 
 ?
 
Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.? I haven?t seen that for years.
 
 ?
 
Now the blinkers work as they should.?
 
 ?
 
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun May 11 12:36:15 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aY_zhuk_ep4NsU9hhqeU8PykJ3=acJ+=fnEXsbxwKxuZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
 <CAFtw3aY_zhuk_ep4NsU9hhqeU8PykJ3=acJ+=fnEXsbxwKxuZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1785043784.3947557.1746988575111@mail.yahoo.com>

My TR6 is also running LED rear and incandescent in front.? My TR8 is running LED's all around but the dash indicators work completely differently.
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 12:41:38 PM CDT, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:   

 I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see it blinking in the sun).
They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front of me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.
Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.
Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my Ford Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem solved.
Greg LemonTR250
On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59?AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:


This makes no sense to me.? Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.? The rear already had them.

?

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.? I haven?t seen that for years.

?

Now the blinkers work as they should.?

?

?
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From lherault at verizon.net  Sun May 11 12:49:19 2025
From: lherault at verizon.net (Ron L"Herault)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 14:49:19 -0400
Subject: [TR] Youtube TR-6 work
References: <000001dbc2a5$6782a850$3687f8f0$.ref@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000001dbc2a5$6782a850$3687f8f0$@verizon.net>

A regular yutuber, MUSTIE1, who most often works on VWs but is quite skilled
and clever is now tackling a TR-6 that has sat for a long time.  Just
watched the second installment this AM.    I find myself cringing a bit but
so far he has not damaged anything 8-)

 

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From bkahler1 at gmail.com  Sun May 11 12:49:21 2025
From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 14:49:21 -0400
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <SJ5PPFD91589D79618285899AFB8308EC76C194A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
 <SJ5PPFD91589D79618285899AFB8308EC76C194A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CADm3DLHdAuiDh0EbcE=Gd6GcodYKz4y5e=kKp9o5KN=XFTx6zA@mail.gmail.com>

I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.  I bought most of
the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.  I also bought 2 LED flashers
(turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works as it should.  I'm
very happy with the outcome.

Brad
72 TR6

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35?PM Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com> wrote:

> As I said before.  the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra
> resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator
> indicator to the other bulbs.  Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more
> brightly since they can draw more - mine did.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave
> northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
>
>
> This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced
> the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.
>
>
>
> Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a
> bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for
> years.
>
>
>
> Now the blinkers work as they should.
>
>
>
>
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From rjray.architect at gmail.com  Sun May 11 12:59:40 2025
From: rjray.architect at gmail.com (rjray.architect at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 13:59:40 -0500
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3aY_zhuk_ep4NsU9hhqeU8PykJ3=acJ+=fnEXsbxwKxuZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
 <CAFtw3aY_zhuk_ep4NsU9hhqeU8PykJ3=acJ+=fnEXsbxwKxuZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018801dbc2a6$d97b55a0$8c7200e0$@gmail.com>

On to the TR3A lights:

 

I put LED in front driving/turn signal lights, and the rear brake lights and rear turn signal lights.

It worked great for several years.

Eventually, nothing flashed, and the front driving/turn signal lights would sort of lightly glow/flicker all the time when the key was on. The rears may have done that also, but with the red lenses, I could not see anything in the daylight hours.

I replace the electronic flasher unit, and everything worked for a few days. Then it was back to nothing lashed and the front light s sort of glowing again.

I assumed the electronic flasher unit ?blew,? and that somewhere in the system was a short. But with a new wiring harness, I thought that unlikely.

 

Should I try replacing the front LED bulbs with incandescent?

As TR3 people know, it is a pain getting the lenses back on in the rubber holders.

 

Thanks.

 

p.s. Greg is spot on about Randall. His advice here and on British Car Forum, helped me a lot when I first bought my TR3 and was getting it back to driving condition.

 

 

 

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 12:06 PM
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem

 

I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see it blinking in the sun).

 

They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front of me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.

 

Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.

 

Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my <http://problem.with.my>  Ford Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem solved.

 

Greg Lemon

TR250

 

On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59?AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com> > wrote:

This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.

 

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for years.

 

Now the blinkers work as they should.  

 

 

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun May 11 14:49:06 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 20:49:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <CADm3DLHdAuiDh0EbcE=Gd6GcodYKz4y5e=kKp9o5KN=XFTx6zA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
 <SJ5PPFD91589D79618285899AFB8308EC76C194A@SJ5PPFD91589D79.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Hi Brad.? Long time no see.??
What did you do for your dash indicator?? Is that the stock bulb?? Or did you replace that, too?
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.? I bought most of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.? I also bought 2 LED flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works?as it should.? I'm very happy with the outcome.
Brad72 TR6
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35?PM Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com> wrote:

As I said before.? the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indicator to the other bulbs.? Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more brightly since they can draw more - mine did.From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem?
This makes no sense to me.? Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.? The rear already had them.

?

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.? I haven?t seen that for years.

?

Now the blinkers work as they should.?

?

?
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From bkahler1 at gmail.com  Sun May 11 17:00:56 2025
From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 19:00:56 -0400
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <336826802.770240.1746996546780@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <38f16445a8ad4f87990f21b342112316@ranteer.com>
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Hi Dave, time flies when you're having fun :)

I bought LiteZupp's LED kit and it included LEDs for the dash.  It also
included what they called a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected
back to back to back where one connects to each turn signal wire and the
common between them connects to the dash turn LED.  I don't remember why
but I did replace some of the dash LEDs that they provided.  Overall I'm
quite happy with the package.  If I remember correctly I even used an LED
for the alternator but I'm getting old and my memory is failing me!

Brad

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:49?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> Hi Brad.  Long time no see.
>
> What did you do for your dash indicator?  Is that the stock bulb?  Or did
> you replace that, too?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <
> bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.  I bought most of
> the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.  I also bought 2 LED flashers
> (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works as it should.  I'm
> very happy with the outcome.
>
> Brad
> 72 TR6
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35?PM Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com> wrote:
>
> As I said before.  the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra
> resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator
> indicator to the other bulbs.  Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more
> brightly since they can draw more - mine did.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave
> northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
>
>
> This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced
> the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.
>
>
>
> Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a
> bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for
> years.
>
>
>
> Now the blinkers work as they should.
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun May 11 17:34:52 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 23:34:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
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OK.? That makes sense.? It changes completely how the dash indicator works and makes it not dependent on voltage drops, etc in the various bulbs.? So the dash indicator has an extra ground wire then?
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 06:01:09 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Hi Dave, time flies when you're having fun :)
I bought LiteZupp's LED kit and it included LEDs for the dash.? It also included what they called a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected back to back to back where one connects to each turn signal wire and the common between them connects to the dash turn LED.? I don't remember why but I did replace some of the dash LEDs that they provided.? Overall I'm quite happy with the package.? If I remember correctly I even used an LED for the alternator but I'm getting old and my memory is failing me!
Brad
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:49?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

Hi Brad.? Long time no see.??
What did you do for your dash indicator?? Is that the stock bulb?? Or did you replace that, too?
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.? I bought most of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.? I also bought 2 LED flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works?as it should.? I'm very happy with the outcome.
Brad72 TR6
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35?PM Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com> wrote:

As I said before.? the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indicator to the other bulbs.? Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more brightly since they can draw more - mine did.From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem?
This makes no sense to me.? Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.? The rear already had them.

?

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.? I haven?t seen that for years.

?

Now the blinkers work as they should.?

?

?
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From bkahler1 at gmail.com  Mon May 12 05:36:42 2025
From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 07:36:42 -0400
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
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Yes, there is an extra ground wire.  I've attached my markup for how it's
wired.

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 7:34?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> OK.  That makes sense.  It changes completely how the dash indicator works
> and makes it not dependent on voltage drops, etc in the various bulbs.  So
> the dash indicator has an extra ground wire then?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 06:01:09 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <
> bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dave, time flies when you're having fun :)
>
> I bought LiteZupp's LED kit and it included LEDs for the dash.  It also
> included what they called a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected
> back to back to back where one connects to each turn signal wire and the
> common between them connects to the dash turn LED.  I don't remember why
> but I did replace some of the dash LEDs that they provided.  Overall I'm
> quite happy with the package.  If I remember correctly I even used an LED
> for the alternator but I'm getting old and my memory is failing me!
>
> Brad
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:49?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Brad.  Long time no see.
>
> What did you do for your dash indicator?  Is that the stock bulb?  Or did
> you replace that, too?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <
> bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.  I bought most of
> the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.  I also bought 2 LED flashers
> (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works as it should.  I'm
> very happy with the outcome.
>
> Brad
> 72 TR6
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35?PM Peter Arakelian <peterara at msn.com> wrote:
>
> As I said before.  the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra
> resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator
> indicator to the other bulbs.  Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more
> brightly since they can draw more - mine did.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave
> northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
> *To:* triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
>
>
> This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced
> the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.
>
>
>
> Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a
> bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven?t seen that for
> years.
>
>
>
> Now the blinkers work as they should.
>
>
>
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon May 12 06:04:34 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 12:04:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
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It's good that you documented your changes.? I have tried to troubleshoot wiring issues where someone has modified the wiring.? All bets are off when that happens.I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 but I fully documented them.
Dave 


 

    On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 06:36:56 AM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Yes, there is an extra ground wire.? I've attached my markup for how it's wired.?
  
  
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon May 12 06:31:12 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 12:31:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
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I would start by doublechecking the wiring at the lamp holders and make sure there are no stray wires touching ground where they shouldn't be.

Then check where the metal tabs that secure the wiring harness to the body and make sure the sharp edges aren't cutting into the insulation.? The factory put plastic sleeves over these tabs but they become lost quickly.
I don't know how robust these electronic flashers are but there is a standard to which automotive electronics are tested and expected to survive.? Something called load dump voltage surges.? This is where an electrical load switches off and generates a large, typically negative-going voltage spike.? This can be when an electric fan switches off.? The biggest load on a TR3 (or just about any car) is the starter motor.? The starter and solenoid on a TR3 may generate a voltage spike that is destroying the electronic flasher.? I would try an MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) across the the power input to the flasher and ground.? Something like this:https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D270KTR/2407604
I also like to add a capacitor that will slow the rise time of the spike helping the varistor do its work.? Something like this:https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/kemet/R82DC3470AA60J/2839160?
Dave 


 

    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, rjray.architect at gmail.com <rjray.architect at gmail.com> wrote:   

 
On to the TR3A lights:

 ?

I put LED in front driving/turn signal lights, and the rear brake lights and rear turn signal lights.

It worked great for several years.

Eventually, nothing flashed, and the front driving/turn signal lights would sort of lightly glow/flicker all the time when the key was on. The rears may have done that also, but with the red lenses, I could not see anything in the daylight hours.

I replace the electronic flasher unit, and everything worked for a few days. Then it was back to nothing lashed and the front light s sort of glowing again.

I assumed the electronic flasher unit ?blew,? and that somewhere in the system was a short. But with a new wiring harness, I thought that unlikely.

 ?

Should I try replacing the front LED bulbs with incandescent?

As TR3 people know, it is a pain getting the lenses back on in the rubber holders.

 ?

Thanks.

 ?

p.s. Greg is spot on about Randall. His advice here and on British Car Forum, helped me a lot when I first bought my TR3 and was getting it back to driving condition.

 ?

 ?

 ?

 ?

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 12:06 PM
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem

 ?

I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see it blinking in the sun).

 ?

They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front of me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.

 ?

Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.

 ?

Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my Ford Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem solved.

 ?

Greg Lemon

TR250

 ?

On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59?AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:


This makes no sense to me.? Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.? The rear already had them.

?

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.? I haven?t seen that for years.

?

Now the blinkers work as they should.? 

?

?

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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon May 12 09:09:21 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 15:09:21 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3a
Message-ID: <1300073964854f8380cdd2c793de96c6@ranteer.com>

i have a 59 TR3a that i am resurrecting; it is more or less in kit form.  the car has been off the road since 1982 or so.

originality is not an issue - it won't be.

is there a way i can tell if the diff is still good before i put the engine back in and drive it? should i just have the diff redone while the car is apart? what are my options here? i saw the limited slip for $5k but that's out of my price range. does anyone offer an exchange? i'm not doing anything radical nor will i race it but we are enhancing the performance whereever we can.

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From grglmn at gmail.com  Mon May 12 09:38:47 2025
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 10:38:47 -0500
Subject: [TR] TR3a
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I don't have real expert advice, just shade tree mechanic.  If gear oil was
kept in it, or more importantly water out, and it spins freely I would put
new seals on it, fill it up with fresh oil, and see how it goes.

The last time I was wondering the same thing I took it to a shop I trusted
run by older timers.  They told me tearing it down to properly check
clearances, etc., would cost nearly as much as a rebuild.

The rear axles on these cars are fairly sturdy, have also heard that a
rebuilt unit, though sound mechanically, often can be noisy/whiney.

Greg Lemon
TR250



On Mon, May 12, 2025, 10:15?AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> i have a 59 TR3a that i am resurrecting; it is more or less in kit form.
>  the car has been off the road since 1982 or so.
>
>
>
> originality is not an issue - it won't be.
>
>
>
> is there a way i can tell if the diff is still good before i put the
> engine back in and drive it? should i just have the diff redone while the
> car is apart? what are my options here? i saw the limited slip for $5k but
> that's out of my price range. does anyone offer an exchange? i'm not doing
> anything radical nor will i race it but we are enhancing the performance
> whereever we can.
>
>
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From tjwakeman at gmail.com  Mon May 12 10:07:11 2025
From: tjwakeman at gmail.com (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 09:07:11 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR3a
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On 5/12/25 8:38 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I don't have real expert advice, just shade tree mechanic.? If gear 
> oil was kept in it, or more importantly water out, and it spins freely 
> I would put new seals on it, fill it up with fresh oil, and see how it 
> goes.

I suggest draining the oil & pass a magnet through it looking for metal 
slivers, then pulling the diff back plate to look for wear in the R&P 
gears. If the ring and/or pinion gears are sharp pointed replace them.

TeriAnn
Who once replaced a TR3 gearbox because the R&P gears were screaming. On 
the positive side the replacement box was a fresh rebuilt TR4 overdrive box.


From hoytduff at gmail.com  Mon May 12 11:36:13 2025
From: hoytduff at gmail.com (Hoyt Duff)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 13:36:13 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3a
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Spin one wheel. The other should move in the opposite direction.  Listen
fur grinding/chrunching noises. Drain the oil,  remove the cover,  looking
for metal chunks.  Check the the axle seals are not leaking, pinion seal is
not leaking. Rebuild the brakes, one side at a time.

On Mon, May 12, 2025, 11:30 AM dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> i have a 59 TR3a that i am resurrecting; it is more or less in kit form.
>  the car has been off the road since 1982 or so.
>
>
>
> originality is not an issue - it won't be.
>
>
>
> is there a way i can tell if the diff is still good before i put the
> engine back in and drive it? should i just have the diff redone while the
> car is apart? what are my options here? i saw the limited slip for $5k but
> that's out of my price range. does anyone offer an exchange? i'm not doing
> anything radical nor will i race it but we are enhancing the performance
> whereever we can.
>
>
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From kinderlehrer at comcast.net  Mon May 12 11:40:09 2025
From: kinderlehrer at comcast.net (Kinderlehrer)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 10:40:09 -0700
Subject: [TR] TR3a
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I think the easiest test for differential health is to check for play by holding one wheel steady and rotating the other and watching the drive shaft. Or turning the driveshaft and observing the amount of play before there is movement in the wheels. I am less of an expert than TeriAnn, so don't really know how much play is too much.
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2025 9:07 AM
To: triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a

On 5/12/25 8:38 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I don't have real expert advice, just shade tree mechanic.  If gear 
> oil was kept in it, or more importantly water out, and it spins freely 
> I would put new seals on it, fill it up with fresh oil, and see how it 
> goes.

I suggest draining the oil & pass a magnet through it looking for metal slivers, then pulling the diff back plate to look for wear in the R&P gears. If the ring and/or pinion gears are sharp pointed replace them.

TeriAnn
Who once replaced a TR3 gearbox because the R&P gears were screaming. On the positive side the replacement box was a fresh rebuilt TR4 overdrive box.

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From bkahler1 at gmail.com  Mon May 12 12:00:50 2025
From: bkahler1 at gmail.com (Brad Kahler)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 14:00:50 -0400
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
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Your level of documenting your mods is on another level compared to mine :)

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On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 8:04?AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> It's good that you documented your changes.  I have tried to troubleshoot
> wiring issues where someone has modified the wiring.  All bets are off when
> that happens.
> I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 but I fully documented
> them.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 06:36:56 AM CDT, Brad Kahler <
> bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Yes, there is an extra ground wire.  I've attached my markup for how it's
> wired.
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Mon May 12 13:05:19 2025
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 15:05:19 -0400
Subject: [TR] TR3a
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon May 12 18:28:35 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 00:28:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
In-Reply-To: <CADm3DLEK5ssdjDAsjZLrOYTwOjPoxLSFo9aHpMgTS2sEFviZ8A@mail.gmail.com>
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That's what I did for a living before I retired.
Dave 


 

    On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 01:01:03 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Your level of documenting your mods is on another level compared to mine :)

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On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 8:04?AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

It's good that you documented your changes.? I have tried to troubleshoot wiring issues where someone has modified the wiring.? All bets are off when that happens.I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 but I fully documented them.
Dave 


 

    On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 06:36:56 AM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Yes, there is an extra ground wire.? I've attached my markup for how it's wired.?
  
  
  
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From johnbmacartney at gmx.com  Wed May 14 09:18:12 2025
From: johnbmacartney at gmx.com (John Macartney)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 16:18:12 +0100
Subject: [TR] A shout out - Triumph Club of Sweden
Message-ID: <B1ED5BC7-BC61-46CA-BC7F-3B53DBFCB362@gmx.com>

Does anyone know if Bror Hultgren or Odd Hedberg from the above club still populate this list? I?m anxious to contact either or both of them. By all means forward this message or my email address to either Bror or Odd if you have their contact details.
Thanks

Jonmac

From coefront at shaw.ca  Fri May 16 18:51:53 2025
From: coefront at shaw.ca (Mike Coe)
Date: 16 May 2025 17:51:53 -0700
Subject: [TR] Mike.
Message-ID: <20250516174625.B8394CC9BDF70CFA@shaw.ca>

Quick question. do you shop on ama zon?


Mike.

From dave at ranteer.com  Sun May 18 09:31:35 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 15:31:35 +0000
Subject: [TR] TR3 plate
Message-ID: <ac115a941226411bbd1cdf21d2dec54d@ranteer.com>

My car has this brass body number plate; its missing the lower plate.  Where can I get one (after I fix the rust!!) and anyone know what an appropriate/approximate number would be?

Car is TS 44871 LO
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun May 18 09:58:15 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 15:58:15 +0000
Subject: [TR] FYI
Message-ID: <73b333e4903642e59c34e0194e978f23@ranteer.com>

My ebay listing:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/286578657157

Triumph TR3 model
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From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 10:36:15 2025
From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 16:36:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] FYI
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 sold. to me
Frank
    On Sunday, May 18, 2025 at 09:27:11 AM PDT, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:  
 
  
My ebay listing:? https://www.ebay.com/itm/286578657157
 
 ?
 
Triumph TR3 model
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From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com  Sun May 18 12:46:06 2025
From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (Gerald Van Vlack)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 18:46:06 +0000
Subject: [TR] Rear Occasional Seat
Message-ID: <MN2PR02MB580543275CBEB4B7D06A628CF69DA@MN2PR02MB5805.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Triumph tr4, 4A, 250 and 6????

I have an unused and maybe original rear occasional seat available with a new dark red (wine colored) cover that can be used as a pattern for your interior color if your interior is a different color.

New wood base and foam. NO HARDWARE but hardware could be easily made for attachment. I can send a photo of the hardware. Neat accessory.

P/N 706045 as shown in the 4A Parts Book. I suspect the same P/N for other models as well.

I can send photos for serious inquires. I have not taken them yet and will post when I take them.

$50.00 and whatever UPS or FedEx wants to box and ship.

I'm moving and need it gone.

JVV

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From triumphstag at gmail.com  Sun May 18 23:21:12 2025
From: triumphstag at gmail.com (Sujit Roy)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 22:21:12 -0700
Subject: [TR] Evaporrust
Message-ID: <CANLCLaEXczgpQmUY9=A-HNXRtyszott6=cpJUe=ZexOKsYf3+g@mail.gmail.com>

Can I use this in a dry slightly rusty fuel tank? Will any residue have a
reaction with fuel? I don't plan to fill it with fuel any time soon.

Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California

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From hoytduff at gmail.com  Mon May 19 09:30:41 2025
From: hoytduff at gmail.com (Hoyt Duff)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 11:30:41 -0400
Subject: [TR] Evaporrust
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Take it to a radiator shop to be cleaned. Money well spent.

On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 1:38?AM Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can I use this in a dry slightly rusty fuel tank? Will any residue have a reaction with fuel? I don't plan to fill it with fuel any time soon.
>
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue May 20 04:54:11 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:54:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [TR] Evaporrust
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If you don't want to invest in a professional clean/seal from your local radiator shop and just want to prevent further rust you might consider pouring in half a quart of motor oil and rotate the tank round-and-round to coat the surface with oil.? The residue will just dissolve when you fill it with gas.
Dave 


 

    On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 12:30:55 AM CDT, Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Can I use this in a dry slightly rusty fuel tank? Will any residue have a reaction with fuel? I don't plan to fill it with fuel any time soon.
Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat May 24 07:09:19 2025
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 13:09:19 +0000
Subject: [TR] pressure washer sandblasting kits
Message-ID: <35060d6dbfe6492892e2f816f65352cf@ranteer.com>

Has anyone purchased/used one of these?  I have a great pressure washer and it seems like a nice add on
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From yellowtr at roadrunner.com  Sat May 24 09:17:06 2025
From: yellowtr at roadrunner.com (Bob)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 11:17:06 -0400
Subject: [TR] pressure washer sandblasting kits
In-Reply-To: <35060d6dbfe6492892e2f816f65352cf@ranteer.com>
References: <35060d6dbfe6492892e2f816f65352cf@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <6e4cf644-cbad-4e22-ba37-2836fd7d26f0@roadrunner.com>

Dave,

I tried one when I first did my 58 way back in 1979. Well to be honest, 
it did remove the rust and scale, but the frame parts I did started to 
rust as soon as the water dried.

 From then on I did large stuff outside in a large tent and inside my 
garage with a blasting cabinet with my? vacuum cleaner exhausting the 
dust in the cabinet to the outside. From experience, paint as soon as 
you can.

Bob

On 5/24/25 09:09, dave northrup wrote:
>
> Has anyone purchased/used one of these?? I have a great pressure 
> washer and it seems like a nice add on
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From cfmtr3a at verizon.net  Sun May 25 15:01:52 2025
From: cfmtr3a at verizon.net (CFM-TR)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 17:01:52 -0400
Subject: [TR] Drive your Triumph Day
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1st - I have not noticed any postings for a couple of weeks.? Did something happen?

2nd - does anyoneone have a 3d file for a TR3A? I just got a 3d printer (my nephew upgraded his), and I thought a car image would be fun to do instead of the box type items I've done so far.?? Thanks.

On Feb 11, 2025, 3:38?PM, at 3:38?PM, Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen at outlook.com> wrote:
>I did.
>
>I like the way this photo turned out, quite by accident.
>
>Cliff
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of John
>Macartney <johnBMacartney at gmx.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 9:53 AM
>To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [TR] Drive your Triumph Day
>
>
>How many on this list made a special journey yesterday on Sir John
>Black?s birthday ? aka Drive your Triumph Day? It would have been 130
>years since his birth and 60 years since his death.
>
>
>
>I confess that since I no longer own any Standard or Triumph car, I
>made my pilgrimage to his former home at Tachbrook Mallory, a village
>near to the City of Coventry and very close to the town of Leamington
>Spa in my newly acquired Kia Sportage hybrid which is a car that has
>greatly impressed me . Attached is a picture of the south-west face of
>Sir John?s former home but admittedly taken in the summer a few years
>ago when the weather was so much nicer than the cold, very wet and even
>more windy winter day in England, as yesterday proved to be.
>
>
>
>The building is now and has been for a long time past, a *very*
>prestigious ?boutique? hotel and restaurant but you?ll be able to go
>inside it if you click on this link - Mallory Court Country House Hotel
>and Spa, Royal Leamington Spa, United Kingdom - Lowest Rate
>Guaranteed!<https://www.hotelsone.com/royal-leamington-spa-hotels-gb/mallory-court-country-house-hotel-and-spa.html?utm_campaign=gb-United-Kingdom-Hotels-eu-en-uk&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=bing&utm_content=gb%20|%20royal-leamington-spa%20|%20528438%20|%20mallory-court-country-house-hotel-and-spa&uid=e9338a2e-7179-4ef1-8c7b-078209deda8f&as=b&aid=77790657007190&dsti=528438&dstt=8&nid=1&sl=9&msclkid=0ff76fd337ce11a6aba108784b4244cb&akw=77790879386964>
>In the event any lister should find themselves in the UK at a future
>date and decides to make a ?pilgrimage? and to sample the food and
>drink while there, may I just advise you to ensure your credit card is
>of the asbestos type because this is most definitely not a ?Mom and
>Pop? establishment when it comes to paying for things. Many years ago
>(27 years to be precise) a close friend who was doing a taxi driving
>job took a client there and while waiting to take said client to
>another local destination, my friend chose to order one freshly grated
>cheese sandwich and a glass of freshly squeezed orange juice while he
>waited for his client to shower and change. My friend then signed for
>those two items upon leaving (which cost was to his client?s account)
>and was horrified to be charged the princely sum of US$37 plus a 15%
>service charge for just one sandwich and a small glass of his
>drink!!!!!!!!!!!! Patronise this establishment by all means if you
>visit but prepare to eat spaghetti or any form of cheap pasta for the
>rest of your UK stay.
>
>
>
>Jonmac
>
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