[WPTA] Dzus meeting

Jay Galbreath tr4jay at gmail.com
Mon Jan 28 15:51:44 MST 2019 

Lord are you not listening?? Ok then just smite Rich so this ends today.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 5:45 PM Rich Roenigk via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net
wrote:

> Ok  friends…….a call to PENNDOT today after ½ hour wait…employee said that
> if you modify your lighting, such as LED, no longer legal for Antique tags
> as you modified it…..OK….if in accident, can insurance deny claim as not
> legal to States requirements ????
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> I appreciate everyone’s input….just trying to get clarification for good
> of the order !!
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> Rich R
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> *From:* Gary Fredo [mailto:garyfredo at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 1:02 PM
> *To:* rroenigk at aol.com; LawrenceRoss at allstate.com
> *Cc:* wpta at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
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> Rich,
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> More importantly is that your insurance company needs to know that.
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> As your insurance company to put it in writing that your car will be
> covered if you drive it after dark.  If they won't do so, then it's time to
> start looking for another insurance company.
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> I looked at my policy and there is nothing regarding night driving.  But I
> did notice that I'm not covered for the "Discharge of a nuclear weapon
> (even if accidental)".  I'll have to be careful the next time I'm playing
> with a nuclear weapon.
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> Gary
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> *From:* rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> *To:* LawrenceRoss at allstate.com
> *Cc:* wpta at autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 12:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
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> Thx.  Wish PENNDOT staff knew that
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> On Monday, January 28, 2019, Ross, Lawrence <LawrenceRoss at allstate.com> wrote:
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> OK Kiddies -
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> Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limits
> driving during night hours on any of the following plates:
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>     1) Antique
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>     2) Historic
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>     3) Classic
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> The "official recommendation" is that you do not drive after dark on due
> to the lack of "lighting technology".
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> However, it is NOT illegal to drive after dark.
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> Larry Ross
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> *Lawrence Ross Agency*
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> *67 Old Clairton Rd.*
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> *Pittsburgh, PA. 15236*
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> *(412) 655-9990 - office*
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> *(412) 780-8495 - cell*
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> *From:* Wpta [wpta-bounces at autox.team.net] on behalf of rroenigk--- via
> Wpta [wpta at autox.team.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM
> *To:* xj61975 at aol.com
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> *Subject:* [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
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> Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
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> They scary part is our insurance companies use a “ loophole “ to avoid
> coverage
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> I’m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT
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> Thx
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> Rich R
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> On Monday, January 28, 2019, xj61975 at aol.com <xj61975 at aol.com> wrote:
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> Believe what you want, Rich.
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> Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given
> day depending on who you talk to.
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> Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
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> -a person sitting in the car
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> -front window was down
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> -license plate visible and "was not original to the car"
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> I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what
> would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
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> If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates are
> not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
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> I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a
> State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.  "If you want
> to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn
> signals, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
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> Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
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> Thanks,
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> Bill
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rroenigk <rroenigk at aol.com>
> To: xj61975 <xj61975 at aol.com>
> Cc: jstout310 <jstout310 at gmail.com>; wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
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> Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
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> The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
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> And insurance company may not insure you
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> You would think they know
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> Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
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> Thx
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> Rich R
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> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, xj61975 at aol.com <xj61975 at aol.com> wrote:
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> Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an
> antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets
> current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not
> longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
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> Bill Cooper
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> To: rroenigk <rroenigk at aol.com>
> Cc: wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
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> I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement
> "used" to be there....
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> *Antique** vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and **sunset** are
> exempt from the normal lighting *
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> *requirements of the **Pennsylvania** Vehicle Code, but must have their
> original lighting equipment.*
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> It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I
> am unable to find
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> it anyplace on PennDot documents...
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> Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about
> driving after dark..
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>   *USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of
> antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section
> 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: “It is unlawful for
> any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or
> vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use
> shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours,
> parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.” Occasional
> transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.
> Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage
> registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and
> trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates
> are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.*
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> http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf
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> My Thoughts...
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> Happy Sunday :-)
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> Joe
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> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net
> <wpta at autoxteam.net>> wrote:
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> Subject for discussion
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> Antique Tags
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> If PA law says can’t drive after dark, does your insurance company still
> cover you if you do ?
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> Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions /
> guidelines
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> I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
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> Appreciate any feedback
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> Thx
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> Rich R
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> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, Bruce Stutzman via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Tomorow
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