[Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

John Perkins wrench at attglobal.net
Sat Dec 7 08:16:47 MST 2013


Wow, I didn't think there would be this much response.  LannM sent me a 
copy of a Visio diagram he did for his MGB, so I can reuse a lot of his 
icons.  I'll have to go through my archives to find the problem with the 
wiper motor wiring - didn't Mike Ash put that in one of his MGA! 
columns?  I make sure the clock is in as well.  I'll build the diagram 
for 11 x 17 paper since that's a standard size that all copy stores will 
have.  I should have a draft version of it by the end of next week ready 
for technical evaluation before we distribute it out.
     Perkins

On 12/6/2013 10:09 PM, Mike Coe wrote:
> Me two. Although I have a brand new wiring loom to 'eventually' into 
> on my Magnette.
> Cheers.
> Mike Coe -- Calgary
> *From:* Allen Bachelder <mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 5:39 PM
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America 
> <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
> Perkins,
> I can only respond for myself.  For $2, it's a no-brainer. I can't 
> imagine where I'd draw the line, but it's a no-brainer for a lot more 
> than $2. As long as it doesn't turn into 1" squares when blown up to 
> 11 X 17, I'm happy to pay $2.  ' Hope you would accept Paypal. That 
> would mean I could order and pay for it electronically, you could send 
> it to me electronically, I could email it to Fedex/Kinkos or UPS.  The 
> only real thing I have do is drive down and pick it up.  Just let me 
> know when the store opens.   And this comes from a member who has 
> already wired his Magnette...
> Holiday Cheers,
> Allen
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> On Dec 6, 2013, at 4:24 PM, John Perkins wrote:
>
>> Allen:
>>     The longest time for me to build the wiring diagram in Visio is 
>> the time to build the icons for the various components to look as 
>> much like the original diagram as possible.  Would $2.00 a copy for 
>> PDFs be too much?  That way people who want to print it can take the 
>> PDF to their nearest Kinko's and those who like to use a PC or tablet 
>> could use it electronically.  Also, I will need some input about what 
>> size most folks would want it to be for printing and the corrections 
>> that need to made.  I know about the wiper motor, and I'll check 
>> about the clock when I get home tonight, are there any more problems?
>>     Perkins
>>
>> On 12/6/2013 1:30 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>> Perkins,
>>> I think your idea sounds like a plan, but I also think you should be 
>>> paid for your time and effort.  If you could hang a price tag on the 
>>> completed item, perhaps we could price it out and have folks receive 
>>> the PDF file once they're paid, or maybe there are a handful of us 
>>> on the list who just want to kick in enough that you would be 
>>> comfortable distributing it to all. What works for you?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Allen
>>> */****************************************************************/*
>>> */Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs/*
>>> */'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT/*
>>> */North Street, MI 48049, USA/*
>>> */http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs/*
>>> */****************************************************************/*
>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rick and Allen:
>>>>     As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring 
>>>> diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio 
>>>> will allow.  Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could print 
>>>> on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.  We could even use this to 
>>>> fix the problem with the wiper motor wiring that is in the factory 
>>>> shop manual.
>>>>     Perkins
>>>>
>>>> On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>>>>> Allen et al.,
>>>>> Regarding (1):  I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from 
>>>>> the shop manual.  My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could 
>>>>> produce a workable digital image.  Then anyone could print and 
>>>>> laminate their own from the digital file.
>>>>> If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might 
>>>>> want to use a better scanner though.
>>>>> Let me know if you want a digital scan.
>>>>> --Rick
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns 
>>>>>> arose which I promised to address about a week ago.  I apologize 
>>>>>> for the delay, but my past week has been memorable for its 
>>>>>> interruptions.
>>>>>> Two questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     1.)  Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or
>>>>>>     would be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for
>>>>>>     the Magnette. I know there are at least four of them, and
>>>>>>     maybe some choices would have to be made, but did somebody
>>>>>>     volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram
>>>>>>     copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are
>>>>>>     not such a person but have access to equipment that could
>>>>>>     produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales
>>>>>>     of two of these from the get-go.  I know we discussed this at
>>>>>>     some time but cannot recall how we left it.
>>>>>>     2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago,
>>>>>>     and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US
>>>>>>     distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might
>>>>>>     be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.  Is there a
>>>>>>     follow-up story here? There are those of us who either need
>>>>>>     one or would buy one as a spare should they become
>>>>>>     available.  Once again, any new information about this would
>>>>>>     certainly be welcome.  I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan
>>>>>>     went through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear
>>>>>>     Varitone glasses here in the US of A.  I suspect a good many
>>>>>>     of those of us of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to
>>>>>>     find a stash of these bits available in North America, but I
>>>>>>     wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything.  So...
>>>>>>     can anybody report anything new on this concern?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
>>>>>> Holiday Cheers,
>>>>>> Allen
>>>>>> */****************************************************************/*
>>>>>> */Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>>>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs/*
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