[Zmagnette] List response time

John MArcell mg1948 at verizon.net
Fri Nov 1 06:50:39 MDT 2013


I agree too much about things other than cars

Phil

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> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Richard Greenberg <greenberg at lpl.arizona.edu> wrote:
> 
> I propose that we keep our topics about Magnettes, and stop sending messages to the Magnette list that only have to do with how the email list works.  If there are technical problems with the list server, send a message to the person in charge of the tech management of the list, not to the whole list.  If you want to experiment with sending pictures or speed tests, do it with people off the list.
> 
> I love all the stuff I learn from you folks about Magnettes.  But nothing is more boring than a bazillion messages about how to use email and the internet and image processing.
> 
> --Rick
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Gene deRuelle wrote:
>> 
>> Amen !!!!
>>  
>> Gene deRuelle
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Arch Boston
>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time
>> 
>> At the risk of seeing old, which I am, in the grand scheme of things, what difference does 15-20-30 minutes mean.  I remember air mail taking a couple of days --- and that was FAST!  Enough about slow transmission.  If speed was important none of us would be playing with "old slow "cars.  Arch
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:29 PM, "John Park" <jpark at bmts.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Enough with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only PLEASE!
>>> From: zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM
>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time
>>> Fletcher,
>>> Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26.  I didn't get it until 8:04 this morning!  But before I went to bed last night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM.  
>>> And your  8:52 PM reply to my note?  ' Showed up here at 10:08 this morning.
>>> Go figure!
>>> Allen
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
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>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
>>> This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the other night which were 30-45 minutes.
>>> It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a "real" internet doofus.
>>> I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than (claimed) sent  time - Rock Auto is one. 
>>> 
>>> Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
>>> 
>>> FRM
>>> 
>>> On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>> I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours before some earlier ones.  ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if it were consistent.  I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes.  I'll write a reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-24 hours.  In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to questions posed later.  Tonight I received two or three replies before I received the questions involved.   Somebody sent in a picture.  I have a reply from somebody else who reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
>>> ' Don't think we're there yet...
>>> Allen
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steven Trovato wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list.  I sent them three minutes apart.  I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes later.  The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes.  Can anyone explain to me why this is?  What is causing such a long delay?  I'm sending this one at 7:10pm Eastern Time.  Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me.   :-)
>>> 
>>> No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail getting sent out from
>>> the server.  At the  moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software related.  The program
>>> that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as quickly as it should.  And
>>> with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a major factor in the Team.Net
>>> mailing list software.
>>> 
>>> I'm looking into it.  Come the spring fund drive I may specifically request assistance with a new
>>> machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the tooth.  Donate
>>> early, donate often ;-)
>>> 
>>> I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least the mail does
>>> eventually go through.  Using something like http://www.team.net/forums would not have
>>> this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
>>> 
>>> mjb.
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