[Zmagnette] ZMG Roster

Fri Nov 29 16:53:52 MST 2013

Thanks Steve. Is there such a things as a Varitone number? I seem to remember back in 1989 when I bought my Magnette I spoke with a Steve or Bob ( I don’t remember which at this point) Young in San Francisco who gave me some good info I have now misplaced. I had a thought that there is one. John

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John,

Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before they were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October  through 17 October 1958. John Drake attempted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chassis numbers of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was successful.

Steve

On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <jpark at bmts.com <mailto:jpark at bmts.com> > wrote:

Hi Paul,

            Thanks for the “language” lesson. Always nice to have someone explain how others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z’s have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to decipher a number in  its current state. I’m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the driver’s side inner fender near the  upper lip about 2 feet from the builder’s plate.

            Regards,

            John

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Hi John

You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE… bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is completely correct.

Paul

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There is no chassis it’s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number for the car or the body number? I’m not sure if it’s only Varitones that have body numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.

From: zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net>  [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM
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Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster?  We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted that NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual records.  Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect technical concerns.  I'll propose that each of us can pursue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to include this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by chassis number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to  organize and search by chassis number.  

This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will tell the story and I'll let it go.  It's no big deal...

Cheers,

Allen

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On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:

Howdy all,

That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in July, so we're about due for a new one.

But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what can go into it:

Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has ever asked for that.)
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.
Up to two phone numbers
Email address
Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
Services provided
Comments

Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status

Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:

Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  Status: Always a driver

You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.

For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."

Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.

And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.

If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.

Let me know at mikesmuseum at yahoo.com <mailto:mikesmuseum at yahoo.com>  if you have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam everyone.

Thanks!

Mike Jacobsen

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On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net <mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net> > wrote:

Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
To: "zmagnette" <zmagnette at autox.team.net <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net> >, "John Taft" <jtaft89 at gmail.com <mailto:jtaft89 at gmail.com> >
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM

Everybody... 
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when the next revision is coming out. ....

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