[Zmagnette] Rear Springs

Thu Apr 3 22:55:54 MDT 2014

Sooo... I should just take my springs to a shop???

Joel

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Steve <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:

>   You guys have a heckuva lot better spring shops than we do around here,
> apparently.   I've used three different ones, all with bad results, and a
> lot of wasted $$ and time.
>
>  *From:* John Marcell <mg1948 at verizon.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2014 5:46 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Rear Springs
>
>  Had mine rearched in Dallas in a shop that still had dirt floors. A time
> warp, told the guy what I had & he told me he knew what I needed. Worked
> great & cost $30!  We're done using cold method vs heat which I read was
> best
>
> Phil
>
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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  There was a time - back around 1980 as I recall when you could go to any
> *good* spring shop and get a pair of leaf springs made up.  These shops
> had all the factory data (spring rates, etc) on hand for just about any car
> ever built.  They built a set of springs for my '53 Plymouth project that
> were perfect.  ' Guess those shops have gone the way of ethyl gas and the
> re-refined drain oil at 15¢ a quart that I preferred to burn in my '51
> Chevy.
>
> Allen
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>  On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Arch Boston wrote:
>
>  Steve, the only metals I know anything about ... Gold, plat., and
> silver.  Tho anneal silver to make it mailable it is heated to around 2000
> degrees, cherry red.   3-400 degrees should do zip to steel.  Wouldn't a
> few mile's abrasion - finished surface to finished surface, a couple
> thousand miles at most, wear away the finish? So, you would have simply
> metal to metal contact?  Arch
>
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> On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:58 AM, "Steve" <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>    I'm interested in following the answers to this, as I've done
> different things, none of which have seemed like a solution I feel
> comfortable recommending.
>
> One question is:  what about powder coating?  Would seem to be better than
> painting, and give some "lube" quality between the leaves?  I've done this
> once, and it seemed to work OK, but then others have said "the heat process
> ruined your springs."   Don't know about that, from a practical standpoint
> . . .  the car/springs/suspension "seem" fine.  I believe powder coating
> uses a temp around 375 - 400ish.  That shouldn't hurt the temper of springs
> . . .  should it???
>
> I tried putting some formed rubber "liners" between them, on the
> recommendation of someone.  Done by some hot rodders, I guess.  Can't say I
> liked the results.  Worked OK I guess, but looked like crap . . . . they
> didn't stay in place that well, so some edges were falling out, etc.
>
> I've also tried new springs, and that was the worst.  Car ended up being
> jacked up way too high.  Have also had springs re-arced, and not happy with
> that either . . . . car was then lopsided, and the spring shop said,
> bascially, "that's the way it goes, its not a perfect science, type thing."
>
> All these experiences were "non" Magnettic, but the "issue" is the same,
> eh?
>
> #2stevek
>
>  *From:* Joel Johnson <joel.turtleman at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:46 PM
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Rear Springs
>
>  Thanks everyone. The rubber pieces I'm referring to is the inter leaf
> and angle pads. I have Ed Sweeney's poly bushings for the spring eyes. I
> have disassembled the springs and I think I need to protect the inside from
> rust. Since there are rubber pads between the leaves, I'm thinking it would
> be ok to paint between the leaves? Steve T, I will try that program.
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Kelvin Dodd <doddk at mossmotors.com> wrote:
>
>>  The spring mounting pads are isolated from the frame of the car, so
>> there is no down side to using them. The replacement rubber pads are kinda
>> squishy (technical term), so I normally use and recommend poly.
>>
>>
>>
>> The rear bushes are not the same as MGA/MGB, so you might have limited
>> alternatives. I used the poly bushings that Edwin Sweeney made up. They fit
>> perfectly and are not overly stiff.
>>
>>
>>
>> The front spring eye bush is also unique to the Magnette and at the time
>> I worked on my car, the recommended replacement was the MGA front spring
>> eye bush. This is slightly larger in OD and uses a bigger through bolt. I
>> did find that a normal work bench vice will allow you to press this bushing
>> into the spring eye without too much trouble. Since this conversion works
>> well, I doubt if the Magnette unique spring bushes will be reproduced.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelvin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:
>> zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *David Halliday
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:51 PM
>> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Rear Springs
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> Some may disagree, but I would suggest going to urethane bushes and
>> spring pads as you change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 April 2014 20:30, Steven Trovato <strovato at optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Joel,
>>
>> I don't have an answer for you about the springs.  Hopefully, someone
>> will provide you with an answer soon.  As far as resizing photos, I use a
>> program called irfanview on my Windows 7 machine.  It is very popular,
>> free, and available here:  http://www.irfanview.com/.  All you have to
>> do is image, resize, then save.  Of course the program has the capability
>> to do much more, but for a simple resize of a photograph, there's not much
>> to it.  I often also use the "crop" feature.  This eliminates a lot of
>> excess background, focuses attention on the important part and makes the
>> file smaller as a bonus.
>>
>> -Steve T.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 02:43 PM 4/2/2014, Joel Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I am refreshing the rear springs on my Magnette before installing them.
>> Do I paint both sides of each leaf or put them together and paint the
>> outside? Also what about the rubber bits? They need to be replaced. Thanks.
>> There will be lots of questions to follow, I have my Magnette back from
>> body work and am putting it back together. I'd send a photo, but I can't
>> figure out how to reduce the file size for email.
>>
>>
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