[Zmagnette] Wiring problem

Mon Feb 17 18:49:30 MST 2014

Thanks for everyone's good ideas and starting points. The DB10 relay box has the cover on correctly and those wires are correctly attached.  The flashing stops when I disconnect the green wire to the double connection where it meets the green to the stator tube and sends a green back to the flasher.  I will follow some more trials tomorrow to see if I can distinguish if problem can be isolated to the flasher or stator wiring. 

The sneak current to the dome light made me wonder about my grounds too, I will re-check that wiring under the dash too.  I was frustrated enough to work only on bumpers and over riders most of today.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Vermont <paul at vinwire.com.au>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring problem

Hi Rodger, I have the wiring harness business in Australia and a couple of Magnettes so I may be able to assist your trouble shooting.

I assume your car is fitted with the Lucas DB10 relay box and your rear signal lights operate as stop lights and turn signals.

The first thing I would do is disconnect the wires to the stator tube. The wires may have become twisted and shorted. If the condition persists then you know it is not caused by the stator tube wire or the flasher switch. If the condition goes away, remove and chek the stator tube wiring and switch connections.

I would also check the connections to the roof harness behind the dash. Make sure the wires are connected colour for colour - white purple and white brown for the two  rear signal lamps and brown green for the interior light. Again, you can disconnect these and see if the problem persists by checking the front flashers.

And the other thing to check is the DB10 relay box. 

On terminal one you should have a green with brown wire which comes from "L" on the flasher can.
Terminal 2 should be a green with white wire for your front right flasher
Terminal 3 should be a white with brown wire for the right rear signal lamp (brake and flasher combined)
Terminal 4 should be a green with yellow  wire from your stator tube to turn on the right turn flashers
Terminal 5 should be a green with purple wire and is the input from the stop lights switch
Terminal 6 should be a green with red  wire and is for the front left flasher
Terminal 7 should be a white with purple wire and is for the leaft rear signal lamp
Terminal 8 should be a green with blue wire and is from your stator tube to turn on the left turn flashers.

These are the standard Lucas colour codes. If all this is wired correctly, and your problem still persists, I would disconnect the wires on terminals four and 8 and see if the condition goes away. If it doeasn. I would suggest the DB10 box is faulty.

Let me know how you get on.

Paul Vermont

----- Original Message ----- 

From:   Rodger Shaver   

To: zmagnette at autox.team.net 

Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:06   AM

Subject: [Zmagnette] Wiring problem

I have been frustrated with a glitch with   my re-wiring job.  This is a 59 ZB with a new British Wiring harness.   Regulator is the original, as are horn and signal light relays. New flasher   unit form Moss. Re-wired stator tube.  Most electrical functions seem   correct, e.g. the heater fan motor, the ignition, headlights.  However,   when I turn on the key all four signal lights flash, along with the dome   light. I have checked connections to dash panel and relays and can't find a   problem. I have had trouble confirming green wire continuity from fuse box to   all connections. Finally, I have four green wires at the fuse box, not   the three illustrated on the ZA diagram I have in my WSM.  

I need advice on how to troubleshoot this problem, everything I check   seems ok or doesn't make any sense. Rodger 

-----Original   Message-----
From: Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net>
To: List for   the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
Sent:   Sun, Feb 16, 2014 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Z Magnette Wiring   Diagram

Thanks John, this is huge undertaking, and I know we are all very   appreciative of your efforts!

#2SteveK

-----     Original Message ----- 

From:     John     Perkins 

To:     zmagnette at autox.team.net 

Sent:     Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:51 PM

Subject:     [Zmagnette] Z Magnette Wiring Diagram

No, I haven't fallen off the face of the earth.  Family     and Employer 
have conspired to keep me from spending as much time on the     wiring 
diagram as I had hoped.  Also, building a set of icons to     use for the 
various components has taken more time than I thought.      The news is that 
I've completed building a single wiring diagram that     has all of the 
options for the ZA, ZB, ZB Varitone both RHD and     LHD.  It is being 
checked for accuracy and completeness so it     should be ready to send out 
soon.
         Perkins
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