[Zmagnette] Wiring problem

Wayne & Isabel Hardy gwhardy at suddenlink.net
Mon Feb 17 15:41:24 MST 2014


Sounds to me like a good excuse for a serious drink. Don’t know any other way to see the light so to speak, except when moved by some good single malt.

Wombat
From: Steve Hanegan 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:16 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America 
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring problem

If it is a harness from British Auto Wiring or Autosparks, it will precisely match the schematic right down to the proper terminations on the wires... I have installed nearly a dozen from both sources and they are uncanny in their accuracy. Though it never hurts to verify grounds! 

Steve H.

On Feb 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "Mike Ash" <mikeash at dmv.com> wrote:


  All good suggestions.  However, I would like to suggest that it may be a ground problem.  I do not know which one, but I would suggest that all ground connections be checked (with a meter) for a solid connection to the bare chassis, and that they are not insulated from the chassis by paint. 

  In my experience with a new harness, it may not exactly match the diagram because they may have taken a wire by a different path to achieve the same result.  The additional wire on you fuse block may be for the wiper motor, the connections for which are shown incorrectly on the diagram.

  My two cents!

  Mike.
   

  From: zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Perkins
  Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:30 PM
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring problem
   
  Roger:
      I sounds like there are two separate issues.
      On your ZB, the Dome light should have a brown wire with a green tracer to power it and a brown wire with black tracer to the door switches to ground it.  This will be energized all the time not just when the key is turned on, so I would recommend checking out your connections to the dome light.
      The turn signal issue is most likely incorrect wiring at the direction indicator relay unit.  Here is a diagram of just the unit that may help you.  On my own car, the cover was on the unit incorrectly so when I thought I was attaching a wire to terminal 1 it was actually terminal 8.  If you look at the factory shop manual diagram, the Direction Indicator Relay Unit, it shows the coils and relay points - with the diagram I enclosed, you should be able to determine if your relay unit has had the cover installed wrong or not. 
      Perkins
  On 2/17/2014 10:44 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
    I'd start by finding which wire supplies the dome light, and track it back to the power source.
      Rick Greenberg
     
    On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Rodger Shaver wrote:



    I have been frustrated with a glitch with my re-wiring job.  This is a 59 ZB with a new British Wiring harness. Regulator is the original, as are horn and signal light relays. New flasher unit form Moss. Re-wired stator tube.  Most electrical functions seem correct, e.g. the heater fan motor, the ignition, headlights.  However, when I turn on the key all four signal lights flash, along with the dome light. I have checked connections to dash panel and relays and can't find a problem. I have had trouble confirming green wire continuity from fuse box to all connections. Finally, I have four green wires at the fuse box, not the three illustrated on the ZA diagram I have in my WSM. 
     
    I need advice on how to troubleshoot this problem, everything I check seems ok or doesn't make any sense. Rodger 
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net>
    To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
    Sent: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 8:40 pm
    Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Z Magnette Wiring Diagram

    Thanks John, this is huge undertaking, and I know we are all very appreciative of your efforts!
     
    #2SteveK
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: John Perkins
      To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
      Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:51 PM
      Subject: [Zmagnette] Z Magnette Wiring Diagram

      No, I haven't fallen off the face of the earth.  Family and Employer 
      have conspired to keep me from spending as much time on the wiring 
      diagram as I had hoped.  Also, building a set of icons to use for the 
      various components has taken more time than I thought.  The news is that 
      I've completed building a single wiring diagram that has all of the 
      options for the ZA, ZB, ZB Varitone both RHD and LHD.  It is being 
      checked for accuracy and completeness so it should be ready to send out 
      soon.
           Perkins
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