[Zmagnette] Your humble servant...

Ed Polonus zbdriver at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 21 20:57:14 MST 2014 

Mine Is KAT43/20082 -- Built 3-5 Dec. 1956 - Dispatched 5 Dec. 1956 according to BHIMT.

Ed P.




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 From: Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...
 


Mine is KAA41/35361

Steve H. - blast that synthetic paint anyway...!


On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net> wrote:

Has anybody seen a North American market Magnette where the first two numbers were NOT "43/".  My monotone varitone is KATT43/22988. 
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>I have seen cars titled/registered with 8-digit "VIN" numbers because the "/" was erroneously read as a "1". Hence my car would be registered as "KATT43122988".  I believe that mistake occurred in registering "Nettie", my previous Magnette.  In my present car, the "TT" refers to a Varitone model where the upper color was the same as the lower - in this case "light green" over "light green".  I won't repeat my old mistake of calling it "sea foam green".   ' Guess it's "Island Green" over "Island Green".
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>Cheers,
>Allen
>****************************************************************Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>North Street, MI 48049, USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs**************************************************************** 
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>On Feb 21, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Steve Hanegan wrote:
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>depends on where the slash mark is... KAB4_/36080 would be very nearly the last of the line ZBs (the underscore would be a missing paint code digit) and KAB43/6080 would be an early ZA. The Code is: K for MG, A = 4 door saloon, B = in light grey, 4 = North American Export, 3 = Cellulose paint. If the final numerals are complete and correct, it would indicate that this is the 6080th car off the line. from the register records, this would be a ZA with a tin-top dash, built in late '54 or early '55. Some characteristics to look for would be a dished steering wheel ( dished = ZB, flat = ZA) and the presence of an underdash storage tray )tray = ZB, no tray = ZA) if it does indeed have a tin-top dash, then it is unquestionably an early ZA. If it is KAB4?/36080, it would be one of the last 1000 built in 1958.
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>>For details, see the Z Magnette Register website:
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>>http://magnette.org/
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>>follow the links to "Tech Tips", for the VIN decoder and to the gallery (in this case, page 2) to see where the individual car number falls. Car 6048 is an very original English ZA and car 6175 is the next listed and is a Danish ZA
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>>Steve H.
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>>On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:30 PM, John Marcell <mg1948 at verizon.net> wrote:
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>>Have a question, I'm out of town, this no reference material
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>>>Guy called I wants to know what Magnette he has. Couldn't tell from all the questions I ask him. Said the car # is KAB 436080.
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>>>Can you help me on ZA or ZB & year?
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>>>Thanks
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>>>Phil
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>>>Sent from my iPhone
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>>>On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:21 PM, michael mitchell <mdmzoila at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hi ALL,  I Believe I've Addressed this Before, But I Have a  BMC Series ZA ZB Magnette Parts Service List also The ZA ZB Repair Manual, if Anyone Need'z a Picture of a Certain Part or ??, etc.
>>>>Michael.
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>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: skirby210 at cox.net
>>>>To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
>>>>Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:26:15 -0800
>>>>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...
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>>>>priceless.  Two Earl Scheib stories from back in the day:  
1)  Painted the spare tire in the trunk  2) Guy had a For Sale sign 
taped to his door.  Do I need to finish that one ?????
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: John  Perkins 
>>>>>To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America 
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:14  PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble  servant...
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>>>>>Reminds me of my shop manager at the MG-Jaguar  dealership I worked at:  Jim was an excellent mechanic and machinist, so  when he decided to 'fix up' his Beetle he built up a 2200cc VW with an Okrasa  crank, Isky cam and a pair of Weber IDFs.  He did all the body work in  metal using only a little lead to hide the deep file marks, I told him he  should clear coat it and call it done it was absolutely stunning in  metal.  He decided to drive the car to a shop that could 'squirt it  cheap' - they painted over a butterfly that was plastered on the hood on the  drive over.
>>>>>    Perkins
>>>>>On 2/20/2014 2:58 PM, Steve Kirby 
  wrote:
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>>>>>>I dunno about some of these so-called professionals.  I think the  difference between a lot of folks on this group, is that we are willing to  admit we are amateur/novices/hobbyists . . . whatever.  We are very  willing to learn and listen, however.  
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>>>>>>This morning, I was trying to help a relatively new Club member with  the horrid mess he has gotten into having his MGB body work and painting  done.  In short, one shop (Tim's), a normally very good shop . . .  .show cars, etc., did the body work.  They probably get upwards of $10K  for a paint job, after bodywork, etc.  So, they sent him across the  street, to a M__co shop, previously owned by a "Bob".  Apparently, at  one time, Bob and Tim had a good "working" realationship . . . I do  this, you do that . . . no words spoken.  So, off it went to M__co, now  under the ownership of a Dennis (unbeknownest to our Club  member).  My only involvement at this point was transporting the  car to and fro.  When I helped pick up the "painted" car, I immediately  saw a zillion issues, but didn't say anything.  Eventually, the new  member started asking pretty pointed questions to me, and finally  I pointed out (beyond the painted dents and dings
 and  . . . .. )  a lot of other horrid things . . . no prep, other than maybe 36 grit on a DA  sander,  no color sanding below the belt line (which he paid for),  waves and rolls in fendes, filler not blocked at all, welds not ground down,  drips and sags all over creation, but then a general lack of paint in  most places.  A really @#$^& mess.
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>>>>>>Long story short, it becomes a "He said,  She said" deal.  Each shop claims the mess is the other's  responsibility.  As of today, it is being done over again, after much  negotiating, etc.  Investment so far is about $4500sih.  I can't  believe M__co could paint over all this stuff, and simply say "We assumed  the car was ready to paint, when it came from Tim."  It's like if a dog  turd was sitting on the hood, they would have just painted right over  it.  I think even Uncle Earl did better than that.
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>>>>>>So much for professionals.
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>>>>>>#2SteveK 
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>From: Allen Bachelder 
>>>>>>>To: List for the  Z Magnette Group - North America 
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014  12:33 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble  servant...
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>>>>>>>Given my current geriatric state of mind, plus the fact  that I'm working so slowly I'll forget by the time I even correct this  side, let alone get to the other side, hey it could end up SPACERS 4,  ALLEN 0. I'll try to remember to report if I happen to get it right.   And all of this after being so careful to get the shims perfect  before packing the bearings.  What, oh WHAT was I thinking???? 
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>>>>>>>But isn't this part of the fun?  Aren't these moments the reason  why we prefer to screw these things up ourselves rather than hire some  expert to get it right the first time - and in about one-fourth the time  anyway?  We don't have to tell lies when we kick tires together - the  truth is good enough.  And, at least at my age, we can re-use these  same stories year after year and they'll be just as good because nobody  will remember anyway...  Next Easter, I'm going to hide my own eggs.   
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>>>>>>>Allen
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>>>>>>>****************************************************************Allen  & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>>>>>>Spring Creek 
      Home for Wayward MGs
>>>>>>>'57  ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>>>>>>North  Street, MI 48049,  USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs****************************************************************
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>>>>>>>On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
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>>>>>>>actually, since there are two sides:  Spacers 2 . . . . Allen  0.  But, maybe Allen caught on faster than I did, so it really IS 1  to 0
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: Steve  Christiansen
>>>>>>>>>To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014  6:57 AM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble  servant...
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>>>>>>>>>Spacer 1
>>>>>>>>>Allen 0
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>>>>>>>>>Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>>On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>  wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>reassembling his MGB...   
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>>>>>>>>>>"Nonsense," said Allen, "first the distance piece, and  THEN the inner bearing and seal."
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>>>>>>>>>>' Guess that's what those spare FWB seals are for...
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>>>>>>>>>>****************************************************************Allen  & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>>>>>>>>>Spring 
            Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>>>>>>>>>'57  ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>>>>>>>>>North  Street, MI 48049,  USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs****************************************************************
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