[Zmagnette] Preservation
Mike Hickman
mgmike62 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 28 09:27:02 MST 2014
While the Charcoal may work, in time, if Millicent was my car I would be
checking out companies that specialize in cleaning up after disasters such
as Fires, Flood and Sewage problems, a house in our neighborhood had such a
bad Bed bug problem they had to heat the whole house up to 130 Degrees to
kill everything in the house, it looked like a scene from ET, I got to
talking to the guy, they clean up after all kinds of things Murders,
Hoarders, Mold and Bacteria. Locally it's called Dynamic Environmental, a
Division of Xtreme Resolutions Inc.
I just LOVE it when I see a "Factory Bone Stock" car, a couple of Summers
ago I was at a Car show where the Local Ford Falcon club was there, a guy
was there with a Falcon Sprint Convertible Black with Red interior Bucket
seats, Console, 260 4 barrel 4 speed, just a great car the seats had no rips
just nice patina starting to Orange up a little on the seat tops, original
down to the original locking tabs on the exhaust manifold bolts.
Well the owner proceeds to tell me how he has a 302 Crate Motor, Tremec 5
speed, New Interior and on and on, I looked at him and said, WHY? I said to
the man with a puzzled look on his face, that he had Precisely what a HELL
of a lot of us are looking for and if he wanted to build a Hot Rod find one
that someone else has already taken apart and do it to that car. I happen to
love all things Ford and Falcons hold a special place in my heart, had I had
the money at the time I would have tried to buy that car, it was just not
something you see very often anymore.
I don't usually go on like this, but I have been cooped up in this house for
2 weeks due to bone chilling weather and am getting a little "Cagey", even
with the small heater in my garage it's 38 degrees in there, so I brought in
a bunch of interior stuff in the house to work on.
Thanks for bearing with me,
Mike H.
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[mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:51 AM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
I suspect this is why we have the charcoal filters in our late MGBs. The
charcoal absorbs airborne combustibles (gasoline/oil vapors and perhaps also
the products of incomplete combustion such as old cigarette smoke. I would
suspect the more surface area of the charcoal is exposed to the air, the
more effective it would be, so I wouldn't just put an open bag in the car,
I'd put the bag in a good sturdy plastic bag and go at it with a BFH -
pulverizing it as much as possible, spread it out on large trays and put it
the trays in the car.
FWIW...
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
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On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:22 AM, charles durning wrote:
Charcoal works pretty good. My car had the smell of rotten gasoline and the
aroma from the desert sands. It took awhile but it worked for the passender
part of the car. The trunk is another issue all together. For a
convertable I've found just letting it sit out in the sun with the top down
will do wonders And there is always Febreeze.
Charlie Durning
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:
thanks, I'll do that while its sitting around. I tried another ol' school
idea like that, when we sold my Dad's (heavy smoker) car. Cut a bunch of
apples in half and spread them around. To me, it didn't work, but the
charcoal makes more sense . . . charcoal filtered, eh? Besides, if the car
should then catch on fire while I'm working on it, I'll be better served to
have a BBQ!
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve C. <mailto:laverda at aol.com>
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
Steve
Get a bag of charcoal, open and put it in the car now. It should absorb the
smoke smell over time.
In some ways we are lucky our cars are not highly sought after. It makes it
much easier to build and use them the way we want to. If uou can't enjoy
your car, what is the point?
--
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excuse my brevity.
Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:
I'm so torn with this same question. I've bored most of you with the story
of the orig owner, early ZA I have: "Millicent Rose".
Gosh, what I'd love to do is save the back seat and back door panels, cuz
they are so darn near perfectly original, and I know the leather could be
preserved with all that wonderful stuff. Even the front door panels are
very, very preservable. The interior is that green color. It's
"sooooooooooo" 50's English Magnette, and a big part of me loves it, simply
cuz it is so original. The car is black, and again, I love the originality,
but frankly, a black car and the green interior . . . . ahhhhh, truthfully,
(to quote Wray Lemke) " . . . not my cuppa tea" . . . not in blazing hot
weather like we have around here. Then, there's the front seats, which are
totally shredded and beyond anyone's preservation abilities. The material
is simply gone, and the insides are now outsides. So, I suppose I could
replace the front seats in matching old leather, dyed to match . . . .but
alas, then it's not original anymore . . . is it?
Likewise, the carpets are history . . . they have to be replaced. Again,
then it's not original anymore. "It's only original once", I've heard.
Then, there's the headliner. Not a rip or tear or stain in it. BUT . . .
dear Mrs. Millicent Rose Thompson must have smoked about 85 million cases of
cigarettes inside the poor thing, and I literally can not stand to even
briefly sit inside of it. So, that headliner absolutely has to go . . . and
who knows what else to get rid of the wreak of cigarette smoke . . . I guess
you gathered I'm a non-smoker :))) Again, it's no longer original, and that
headliner, together with the seats and carpet and "NON negotiable".
The overall black paint is pretty much in good shape . . . except for a few
spots, which I suppose I could just ignore, along with dings in the front
wings . . . suppose I could repair and spot paint just those?
Then, the engine . . . which was out of the car when I bought it, and
obviously wasn't removed just for exercise. The engine bay shows some
"bodging". Now we have to back up a bit too. Prior to getting "Millicent
Rose", I'd already bought 2 gals (and the hardener and the reducer) of a
sort of Midnight Blue type color paint, to paint the ZB I was originally
going to restore, along with new, from Lou, macrame front door pulls, in a
biscuit color . . . 'cuz that's the color we wanted for the interior of that
"first" car. Oh, and the Rivergate kit to go with the Nissan 5 speed is
already sitting here, along with Allen's 1800 adapter plate.
So, should I "eat" all that, and keep "Milicent" stock. My unbelievable,
super supportive wife even said "So, do the original car with all the
upgrades, and the color we want (blue, biscuit interior), and then preserve
the other one!" Wow, some bride eh? T'was I who actually said something
like "Not gonna happen". Takes me about 5 years to do a car. I could be
block sanding in my casket at that rate.
So thanks Steven for bringing this up. I'm enjoying the responses so far.
My mind is made up, and I know there are others who will vehemently disagree
with my decision, but in the end, ya know what? It's our car! I'm not
doing all this to please a few folks at the next car show or GT or whatever.
We'll never make everyone happy, but if my bride likes it, I will be
pleased.
#2SteveK
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Trovato <mailto:strovato at optonline.net>
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America <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
Cc: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
Phil,
Yes, I do plan to do what pleases me. I am not a slave to the
opinions of others, but I am interested in the thoughts of people I
respect. I have no plans for a full restoration at this time. I am
going to keep driving my car and enjoying it. I'm not really looking
for votes on what I should do. I am interested in hearing what
people think of this trend in general. I am also interested in
learning more techniques and strategies for owning and maintaining a
car with a preservation attitude.
-Steve T.
At 08:53 PM 1/26/2014, mg1948 at verizon.net wrote:
>The question I think you should ask yourself is "What do I want and
>what pleases me" or is it important what others think of your car.
>
>I've had 21 MGs & some I tried for strict originality & it was
>important I show well & others opinions. I would not drive in the
>rain or 100 miles to a meet.
>
>Others, my Magnette, was not restored to that level. It satisfied
>my wife because of a/c, and I wanted a reliable driver and not be
>afraid of door dings, bugs, and was a nice restoration but not a
>trailer queen or 95+ restoration.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>Phil
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