[Zmagnette] What next?

Tue Jan 28 13:12:36 MST 2014

Steve,

Now it's a waiting game.  A dose of Fabreeze will help in the short run.
Spray down the carpets and if you have cloth seats spray down the seats.
Depending on how bad the smell is you may need to remove the back seat and
spray down the inside of the seat back and bottom.

Charlie Durning

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:

>  Allen, Charlie, Steve C and others:
>
> So, what's the next step?  I've put the charcoal in the car . . . the
> "easy to light" kind.  Who is bringing the dogs and buns?
>
> #2SteveK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
>
> I suspect this is why we have the charcoal filters in our late MGBs. The
> charcoal absorbs airborne combustibles (gasoline/oil vapors and perhaps
> also the products of incomplete combustion such as old cigarette smoke.  I
> would suspect the more surface area of the charcoal is exposed to the air,
> the more effective it would be, so I wouldn't just  put an open bag in the
> car, I'd put the bag in a good sturdy plastic bag and go at it with a BFH -
> pulverizing it as much as possible, spread it out on large trays and put it
> the trays in the car.
>
> FWIW...
> Allen
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>  On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:22 AM, charles durning wrote:
>
> Charcoal works pretty good.  My car had the smell of rotten gasoline and
> the aroma from the desert sands.  It took awhile but it worked for the
> passender part of the car.  The trunk is another issue all together.  For a
> convertable I've found just letting it sit out in the sun with the top down
> will do wonders  And there is always Febreeze.
>
> Charlie Durning
>
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>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>>  thanks, I'll do that while its sitting around.  I tried another ol'
>> school idea like that, when we sold my Dad's (heavy smoker) car.  Cut a
>> bunch of apples in half and spread them around.  To me, it didn't work, but
>> the charcoal makes more sense . . . charcoal filtered, eh?  Besides, if the
>> car should then catch on fire while I'm working on it, I'll be better
>> served to have a BBQ!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Steve C. <laverda at aol.com>
>> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 1:32 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
>>
>> Steve
>> Get a bag of charcoal, open and put it in the car now. It should absorb
>> the smoke smell over time.
>> In some ways we are lucky our cars are not highly sought after. It makes
>> it much easier to build and use them the way we want to. If uou can't enjoy
>> your car, what is the point?
>> --
>> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm so torn with this same question.  I've bored most of you with the
>>> story of the orig owner, early ZA I have: "Millicent Rose".
>>>
>>> Gosh, what I'd love to do is save the back seat and back door panels,
>>> cuz they are so darn near perfectly original, and I know the leather could
>>> be preserved with all that wonderful stuff.  Even the front door panels are
>>> very, very preservable.  The interior is that green color.  It's
>>> "sooooooooooo" 50's English Magnette, and a big part of me loves it, simply
>>> cuz it is so original.  The car is black, and again, I love the
>>> originality, but frankly, a black car and the green interior . . . .
>>> ahhhhh, truthfully, (to quote Wray Lemke) " . . . not my cuppa tea" . . .
>>> not in blazing hot weather like we have around here.  Then, there's the
>>> front seats, which are totally shredded and beyond anyone's preservation
>>> abilities.  The material is simply gone, and the insides are now outsides.
>>> So, I suppose I could replace the front seats in matching old leather, dyed
>>> to match . . . .but alas, then it's not original anymore . . . is it?
>>>
>>> Likewise, the carpets are history . . . they have to be replaced.
>>> Again, then it's not original anymore.  "It's only original once", I've
>>> heard.  Then, there's the headliner.  Not a rip or tear or stain in it.
>>> BUT . . . dear Mrs. Millicent Rose Thompson must have smoked about 85
>>> million cases of cigarettes inside the poor thing, and I literally can not
>>> stand to even briefly sit inside of it.  So, that headliner absolutely has
>>> to go . . . and who knows what else to get rid of the wreak of cigarette
>>> smoke . . . I guess you gathered I'm a non-smoker :)))  Again, it's no
>>> longer original, and that headliner, together with the seats and carpet and
>>> "NON negotiable".
>>>
>>> The overall black paint is pretty much in good shape . . . except for a
>>> few spots, which I suppose I could just ignore, along with dings in the
>>> front wings . . . suppose I could repair and spot paint just those?
>>>
>>> Then, the engine . . . which was out of the car when I bought it, and
>>> obviously wasn't removed just for exercise.  The engine bay shows some
>>> "bodging".  Now we have to back up a bit too.  Prior to getting "Millicent
>>> Rose", I'd already bought 2 gals (and the hardener and the reducer) of a
>>> sort of  Midnight Blue type color paint, to paint the ZB I was originally
>>> going to restore, along with new, from Lou, macrame front door pulls, in a
>>> biscuit color . . . 'cuz that's the color we wanted for the interior of
>>> that "first" car.  Oh, and the Rivergate kit to go with the Nissan 5 speed
>>> is already sitting here, along with Allen's 1800 adapter plate.
>>>
>>> So, should I "eat" all that, and keep "Milicent" stock.  My
>>> unbelievable, super supportive wife even said "So, do the original car with
>>> all the upgrades, and the color we want (blue, biscuit interior), and then
>>> preserve the other one!"  Wow, some bride eh?  T'was I who actually said
>>> something like "Not gonna happen".  Takes me about 5 years to do a car.  I
>>> could be block sanding in my casket at that rate.
>>>
>>> So thanks Steven for bringing this up.  I'm enjoying the responses so
>>> far.  My mind is made up, and I know there are others who will vehemently
>>> disagree with my decision, but in the end, ya know what?  It's our car!
>>> I'm not doing all this to please a few folks at the next car show or GT or
>>> whatever.  We'll never make everyone happy, but if my bride likes it, I
>>> will be pleased.
>>>
>>> #2SteveK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Steven Trovato <strovato at optonline.net>
>>> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<zmagnette at autox.team.net>; List
>>> for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>> *Cc:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:07 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
>>>
>>> Phil,
>>>
>>> Yes, I do plan to do what pleases me.  I am not a slave to the
>>> opinions of others, but I am interested in the thoughts of people I
>>> respect.  I have no plans for a full restoration at this time.  I am
>>> going to keep driving my car and enjoying it.  I'm not really looking
>>> for votes on what I should do.  I am interested in hearing what
>>> people think of this trend in general.  I am also interested in
>>> learning more techniques and strategies for owning and maintaining a
>>> car with a preservation attitude.
>>>
>>> -Steve T.
>>>
>>> At 08:53 PM 1/26/2014, mg1948 at verizon.net wrote:
>>> >The question I think you should ask yourself is "What do I want and
>>> >what pleases me" or is it important what others think of your car.
>>> >
>>> >I've had 21 MGs & some I tried for strict originality & it was
>>> >important I show well & others opinions.  I would not drive in the
>>> >rain or 100 miles to a meet.
>>> >
>>> >Others, my Magnette, was not restored to that level.  It satisfied
>>> >my wife because of a/c, and I wanted a reliable driver and not be
>>> >afraid of door dings, bugs, and was a nice restoration but not a
>>> >trailer queen or 95+ restoration.
>>> >
>>> >Just my opinion.
>>> >
>>> >Phil
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