[Zmagnette] Thermostat housing

charles durning durningcharles at gmail.com
Sat May 17 19:55:33 MDT 2014 

FYI on a replacement therm housing.  The ones that I have found for the
Magnette direct the outlet slightly towards the radiator making the hose
bend at awkward angles to get around the cross bar.  What I used was a
therm housing for a '77 through '80 MGB.  I just cut off the bracket.  Now
the outlet points slightly rearward making an easy fit for the top
hose. Here are some pics the upper hose is a Dayco 71325.  The dayco hose
has all of the right bends for a kink free upper hose.




Charlie Durning

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On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jon Marino <jonnyprecious at comcast.net>wrote:

> Thanks FRM,
>
> It took me about an hour, but I basically had to chisel off the housing
> carefully, piece by piece. After I soaked it all in penetrating lubricant,
> I
> removed the studs (carefully...and I mean carefully, using a vise grip)
> after I got that particular piece of the housing off. There was no
> thermostat in there, which surprised me, so now I am wondering how to flush
> this baby out. Any suggestions would be awesome.
>
> Jon M.
>
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>       Tube Wiring (Allen Bachelder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:53:38 -0400
> From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
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> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Zmagnette Digest, Vol 8, Issue 57
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> Jon-
> The problem arises because water has seeped past the gasket and into the
> stud holes, causing corrosion. The corrosion products are bigger than the
> metal they start as, so form an expanding wedge against the studs - it has
> been known to split the housing.
> Remove all 3 nuts/washers.
> Penetrant into holes, which you will see are full of white stuff, if you
> are
> lucky not all 3!
> It is worth trying some heat from a propane torch on the housing, and
> tapping on the housing with a soft hammer.
> You will see if any of the studs are not in this condition.
> You can put nuts on the studs and tap sideways on them, to move each stud
> individually in the hole.
> You can double nut the studs and remove them, if they move, BUT:
> Do not remove more than one until you can move all 3; people sometimes get
> two out, with it still seized on the third, which is when they break the
> stud off in the head, or break the housing.
> If you get one out,. clean the stud and the hole, them put it back in until
> you work the others free.
> It sometimes takes quite a bit of this fiddling in bad cases.
> Patience and repetition are good - brute force is a disaster.
>
> (I did have one epic case of a cast iron Spridget housing that had to be
> carved off with a chisel!)
>
> Once you get it off, you will see that there is a very narrow edge that
> seals between the stud holes and the thermostat bore, and the housing is
> usually corroded here.
> All this is the result of poor gaskets, poorly fitted over the years.
> The Magnette housing is not common to many other cars in the US, so getting
> another is hard, and impossible for a new one.
> AND, the replacement gaskets are nowhere near the quality the OE were - and
> the OE were nearly always installed incorrectly and overtightened to
> failure
> point.
> SO, this is one of very few places I use LocTite Gasket eliminator or RTV
> silicon instead of a gasket. Use it sparingly, but pay attention to that
> narrow edge.
> Coat the studs with Anti-Seize compound before assembly.
>
> FRM
>
> On 5/17/2014 11:08 AM, Jon Marino wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Is there a trick to removing the elbow water outlet (thermostat
> > housing, I
> > think) that's part of the cooling system? It just seems like it's
> > stuck on the engine permanently.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jon M.
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:40:22 -0400
> > From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
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> >       <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Welcome to a new member
> > Message-ID: <5CEFFE0C-5F01-4F84-BB5C-319BBBAE4AB5 at comcast.net>
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> > Welcome Peter!  We've now welcomed two consecutive "Peters" to our
> > membership (which is now up to 115, BTW).  At any rate, for all the
> "Steves"
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> > On May 17, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Steve wrote:
> >
> >> Please welcome Peter Ferrer to our Merry Magnettic Band.  Peter has a
> >> 58
> > ZB Varitone (that?s redundant, eh).  We been working together trying
> > to solve some wiring harness issues.
> >>
> >> So, Chris K and Allen B . . . . is he in! or, is there something else
> >> I
> > need to do, like pay his lifetime membership fee in vintage headlight
> > bezels?
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> > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 22:15:20 -0700
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> > Hi Chris,
> > What ever you did, I can now open pictures and I don't see any
> > scrubbed html's. I actually opened the note from Allen and it opened
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> > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:50:59 -0400
> > From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
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> > I'm resending this from John Park as it was sent before Peter actually
> > got added.
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> > - Allen
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> > HI Peter,
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> >              Regards,
> >              John 59 zbv
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> > From: zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve
> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 12:13 AM
> > To: zmagnette at autox.team.net; Peter Ferrer
> > Subject: [Zmagnette] Welcome to a new member
> >
> > Please welcome Peter Ferrer to our Merry Magnettic Band.  Peter has a
> > 58 ZB Varitone (that?s redundant, eh).  We been working together
> > trying to solve some wiring harness issues.
> >
> > So, Chris K and Allen B . . . . is he in! or, is there something else
> > I need to do, like pay his lifetime membership fee in vintage headlight
> bezels?
> >
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> > From: zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:13 PM
> > To: zmagnette at autox.team.net; Peter Ferrer
> > Subject: [Zmagnette] Welcome to a new member
> >
> > Please welcome Peter Ferrer to our Merry Magnettic Band.  Peter has a
> > 58 ZB Varitone (that?s redundant, eh).  We been working together
> > trying to solve some wiring harness issues.
> >
> > So, Chris K and Allen B . . . . is he in! or, is there something else
> > I need to do, like pay his lifetime membership fee in vintage headlight
> bezels?
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 19:03:27 -0400
> From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>         <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Zmagnette] Oops - sorry. Was:  Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive,
>         now: Stator Tube Wiring
> Message-ID: <B11C70C4-598E-4485-85F4-5DC46652F182 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Zat better?   ;-)
>
> Allen
>
> On May 17, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Steve wrote:
>
> > guys!  Change the subject line : )
> >
> > From: John Park
> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:58 AM
> > To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
> > Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive
> >
> > Another nice car!
> >
> > From: zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:46 PM
> > To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> > Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive
> >
> > Hey, it's gorgeous - and it has... (count 'em)  FOUR doors!  And to boot,
> I'm gonna guess it's a flat-head six.  The famous slant-six was still a few
> years off - think it came out in the '60 Valiant. But the old flathead
> served, at least as an option, all Chrysler products from about 1932 until
> 1960 and labored on in a number of other applications for nearly another 20
> years.  My first car was a '37 Plymouth.  At a purchase price of $70 it
> didn't quite look like this one, but I loved it until I seriously redlined
> it in first coming home from school one day. It still ran...
> >
> > Allen
> > ****************************************************************
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> >
> > <image001.jpg>
> >
> > On May 16, 2014, at 4:57 PM, David F. Darby wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello Allen,
> >
> > >Oh man - a first-year Exner Mopar!
> >
> > >David, is your Plymouth like this one?  These were really timeless
> > >designs.  I'd love to have one,
> >
> > Close, but that?s a Belvedere hardtop; mine is a Savoy four-door post.
> Here it is under the locust. I suppose Virgil Exner and Gerald Palmer had a
> lot in common.
> >
> > David
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Slightly OT-Carpet adhesive <image002.jpg>
> >
> > On May 16, 2014, at 3:46 PM, David F. Darby wrote:
> >
> > Not really OT, as it is generic, but I am fixing to install a new carpet
> kit in my dear old 1955 Plymouth Savoy (another staid old sedan/saloon).
> >
> > I?m wondering if any of you have a favoured carpet adhesive or protocol
> you might suggest. I?ve just had very limited experience and I don?t want
> to
> botch it up.
> >
> > I have a nice (although lightweight) loop carpet kit in two pieces (fore
> and aft) with bound edges and an attached pressed felt-like backing. I?m
> thinking I don?t want to weld it down and I?ll probably have to do a lot of
> fussing to get it all into place. Any suggestions as to brand or type of
> adhesive you?ve had good results with? Or does it need anything at all?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
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