[Zmagnette] How do I attach a picture?

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Fri May 23 20:37:35 MDT 2014


I got your picture of the oil filter in the email.
Buckey
---- Jon Marino <jonnyprecious at comcast.net> wrote: 
> My last message was supposed to have a pic attached. How do I do this for
> this mailing list?
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 19:21:16 -0700
> From: "Jon Marino" <jonnyprecious at comcast.net>
> To: <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Zmagnette] Oil Filter
> Message-ID: <000001cf76f6$d7ed01a0$87c704e0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Hi folks,
> 
> I am basically trying to find out everything about this car, and I thank you
> for your wealth of information. Cheers to Kelvin at Moss for pointing me to
> this group.
> 
> So while I wait to pull the engine and such, I decided to take off the oil
> filter.  I got this:
> 
> What filter is this? In the manual I have, I see nothing like it; I don't
> see it in the Moss catalogue, either (at least I don't see any of the parts
> they have in what I have). I am wondering if I want to go to the modern oil
> filter adapter. My dad used to make them for TC's, and swore by them. What
> think ye?
> 
> Peace out,
> 
> Jon M.
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>    1. Re: First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
>       (Allen Bachelder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 01:21:17 -0400
> From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> 	<zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
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> Fletcher,
> 
> Many thanks!
> Allen
> 
> On May 23, 2014, at 12:31 AM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
> 
> > Allen-
> > Problem with the C is likely lots of low end  + heavy feet + bad shifting.
> > Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people never even used first.
> > I have no experience - C did not amount to much in my part of the world.
> > If 2nd is one of the gear sets with different tooth count, that may be an
> issue - sometimes those reworks were not thought out real well - Triumph had
> a lot of trouble as they changed tooth design (count and helix angle) for
> obscure reasons, never clearly improving. You can use tooth counts that do
> not really fit, by altering helix angle, sometimes necessary in the
> application but not always real good.
> > 
> > 4 synch MGB are so close to bulletproof in the application that they
> rarely break anything = more box than torque, though some are finally
> getting pretty loose. I only ever had one apart, a very early and believed
> to be defective, as I recall. There certainly were NO parts for the thing.
> > 
> > 3 synch is just as you say. The layshaft/bearings fail, and the tooth load
> is moved to the tip = SNAP, or if used gently the teeth get horrible wear
> until there is not enough left to carry the load, then snap. 3 synch only
> break 2nd and/or rarely third when the shaft is so far gone that the gear is
> about 1/4" from where it should be. If the shaft breaks, it takes out
> everything including the case sometimes.
> > The other 3 synch failure is bad crunching into R/1, which gnaws the teeth
> away from the end until there is nothing left. The design is such that the
> 1st gear part of the laygear essentially has only one tooth contact, so it
> is weak. And I always thought that there may have been some inadequacy in
> heat treatment, as it was fairly common that only one or two teeth would
> show severe wear. All this usually takes until the layshaft is worn out, so
> you then get the two fail modes together.
> > 
> > All comments re 3 synch apply to A series boxes too, though the later ones
> got better.
> > It all has a lot to do with using a 1950 design for another 30 years as
> power and weight went up a lot.
> > 
> > FRM
> > 
> > On 5/22/2014 11:39 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
> >> Fletcher,
> >> 
> >> I've had this clankety clank experience with 2nd gear on my C/GT.  Seems
> to be a bad habit with Cs - stories just like mine abound, and it's always
> 2nd gear.  Hardly ever hear of the same catastrophic failure on Bs even
> though, give or take a couple teeth here and there, it's the same box - and
> not that different from the 3-sync A and Magnette boxes. Some very
> provocative big bits did drain out of the C/GT gearbox and I later found
> places to put them back on the laygear.  As an alternative to $$$ thousands
> spent on a new laygear, I went to all MGB used gears. I rebuilt it with same
> at a John Twist clinic back in 2008; it works like glass now, and I wish it
> a long, happy, and prosperous future - for obvious reasons.  
> >> 
> >> My question is what happens? Are folks inclined to run these cars hard in
> 2nd because that's where most of the fun is? - Especially with the huge gap
> to 3rd, and a 1st that redlines before you get halfway through an
> intersection?  The Z Magnettes because 1st runs out so fast and the cars
> were so gutless that the only feeling of "acceleration" (as opposed to
> "gathering speed") was in 2nd; and the Cs because there was some real fun to
> be had - but mostly in 2nd. Do the roller bearings on the layshaft thus wear
> out creating too much lash, hence too much torque on the outer edges of the
> teeth and eventual breakage? (Wild speculation here; but some folks may thus
> think I sound like I actually know what I'm talking about! ;-)  )  Bottom
> line: I've never heard of such a 2nd-gear failure on a B.  Why? Is it
> because I haven't been around long enough?
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Allen
> >> 
> >> ****************************************************************
> >> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
> >> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> >> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> >> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> >> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> >> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
> >> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_get_r
> >> eady_for_a_whole_lot_of_fun
> >> *********************************************************************
> >> *************************************************
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On May 22, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Jon-
> >>> Maybe somebody already drained out the big bits, or they are stuck
> somewhere inside - though usually there are plenty. What do you know of car
> history?
> >>> Nothing else you can do except dismantle the box.
> >>> What happens is the layshaft & bearings fail, and the gears run out of
> line, which eats them. For that reason, it is good to pull the layshaft on
> any unknown trans. Or they can fail on their own, but the shaft is always
> worn out by then anyway. You have to know how to do this without having the
> whole thing fall apart inside, and it is usually bad anyway.
> >>> It is possible that somebody took it apart once and replaced the 
> >>> shaft but not the gears, as the gears are $$$$$ and sometimes hard 
> >>> to find. (It used to total about $75 long ago!)
> >>> 
> >>> Remote possibility is a really bad u-joint, especially if the car has
> been sitting a long time.
> >>> 
> >>> FRM
> >>> 
> >>> On 5/22/2014 7:15 PM, Jon Marino wrote:
> >>>> Thanks Fletcher.
> >>>> 
> >>>> So I drained the transmission oil and, lo and behold, nothing 
> >>>> shiny. Perhaps I detected a few miniscule specks of metal, but nothing
> really noticeable.
> >>>> Is there another way I can test to see if the gearbox is toast? 
> >>>> Thanks and peace out.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jon M.
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
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> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>> 
> >>>>    1. First Gear Clankety Clank (Jon Marino)
> >>>>    2. Re: First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
> >>>>    3. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Mike Coe)
> >>>>    4. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . 
> >>>> (webuck1 at cox.net)
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:35:19 -0700
> >>>> From: "Jon Marino" <jonnyprecious at comcast.net>
> >>>> To: <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Subject: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank
> >>>> Message-ID: <000001cf7577$3cece5b0$b6c6b110$@net>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>> 
> >>>> OK folks,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I just got done replacing the water pump and thermostat, so I am 
> >>>> flushing the cooling system. I do not want to drive the girl around 
> >>>> for any length of time, of course, but I did want to get it moving 
> >>>> to get the fluids going, if you will. After finally getting the car 
> >>>> started, I drove it around the block a few times. First gear
> specifically is giving an obvious "clankety clank"
> >>>> sound which goes away when I get into 2nd gear. Any thoughts? Oil 
> >>>> seems ok, I am a bit low on transmission oil, and beyond that I am
> perplexed.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best and peace out,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jon M.
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
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> >>>>    1. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Steve 
> >>>> Christiansen)
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>> 
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>> From: Steve Christiansen <schris51 at att.net>
> >>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America  
> >>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>  <1400732578.17839.YahooMailNeo at web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>> 
> >>>> I think that Allen is correct. ?I have sent my counter check 
> >>>> written on a closed account for my portion of the cars. ?Written in 
> >>>> disappearing ink of course. ?When can my cars be delivered??
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> ?
> >>>> Steve Christiansen
> >>>> Ol Phartz Partz
> >>>> 714-686-1236
> >>>> www.olphartz.com
> >>>> schris51 at att.net
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>>  From: Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com>
> >>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America 
> >>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:15 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>>  
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Steve H.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks 
> >>>> are. ?But let's get practical, gang. ?There are 115 of us. 
> >>>> ??100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less 
> >>>> than??870,000 each!*
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not
> included.
> >>>> ?Some shipping charges may apply.?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> For our??870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
> >>>> collector-cars at a value of just??219,000 each. ?I think Steve 
> >>>> Kirby would be a good one to collect the money. ?He's done this for 
> >>>> us before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for 
> >>>> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and 
> >>>> mail by June 1st. ?Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000 
> >>>> required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and acting
> chairman.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ;-)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Allen
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ****************************************************************
> >>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder ? ? ? =iii=< Spring Creek Home for 
> >>>>> Wayward MGs
> >>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> >>>>> North Street, MI 48049, 
> >>>>> USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> >>>>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
> >>>>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_ge
> >>>>> t_rea
> >>>>> dy_f
> >>>> or_a_whole_lot_of_fun
> >>>>> ******************************************************************
> >>>>> *****
> >>>>> ****
> >>>> *******************************************
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!? I have bid $12.79 U.S.
> >>>> dollars, hoping no one else bids.? This is nuts . . . . and I 
> >>>> thought a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
> >>>>>> ?
> >>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentis
> >>>>>> t-car
> >>>>>> s-ke
> >>>> eps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.ht
> >>>> ml
> >>>>>> ?
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> >>>> ------------------------------
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> >>>> Message: 2
> >>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 03:01:36 -0400
> >>>> From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
> >>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America  
> >>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank
> >>>> Message-ID: <537DA0D0.3000405 at usachoice.net>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>>> 
> >>>> Unfortunately for you, that is the characteristic of a dead gearbox.
> >>>> Standard "gearbox kit" was 1st gear, laygear, layshaft, bearings, 
> >>>> 2nd synchro ring, and gaskets.
> >>>> All 3 synch MG/Mag/A/B needed these all the time. I did hundreds of
> them.
> >>>> (same for the smaller A series Morris/spridget/mini ones) If you 
> >>>> drain the oil you will likely find a lot of shiny, hard metal - 
> >>>> that was the teeth off 1st and the laygear. If all the pieces are 
> >>>> small, you might get away with driving it gently when in 1st/rev 
> >>>> for quite a while, but if you find large pieces of teeth, death is
> imminent.
> >>>> 
> >>>> FRM
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 5/22/2014 12:35 AM, Jon Marino wrote:
> >>>>> OK folks,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I just got done replacing the water pump and thermostat, so I am 
> >>>>> flushing the cooling system. I do not want to drive the girl 
> >>>>> around for any length of time, of course, but I did want to get it 
> >>>>> moving to get the fluids going, if you will. After finally getting 
> >>>>> the car started, I drove it around the block a few times. First 
> >>>>> gear specifically
> >>>> is giving an obvious "clankety clank"
> >>>>> sound which goes away when I get into 2nd gear. Any thoughts? Oil 
> >>>>> seems ok, I am a bit low on transmission oil, and beyond that I am
> >>>> perplexed.
> >>>>> Best and peace out,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Jon M.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Zmagnette [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On 
> >>>>> Behalf Of zmagnette-request at autox.team.net
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:22 PM
> >>>>> To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
> >>>>> Subject: Zmagnette Digest, Vol 8, Issue 84
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Send Zmagnette mailing list submissions to  
> >>>>> zmagnette at autox.team.net
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> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at  
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> >>>>> 
> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more 
> >>>>> specific than
> >>>>> "Re: Contents of Zmagnette digest..."
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>     1. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Steve
> >>>>> Christiansen)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Message: 1
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>>> From: Steve Christiansen <schris51 at att.net>
> >>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America  
> >>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>  <1400732578.17839.YahooMailNeo at web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I think that Allen is correct. ?I have sent my counter check 
> >>>>> written on a closed account for my portion of the cars. ?Written 
> >>>>> in disappearing ink of course. ?When can my cars be delivered??
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ?
> >>>>> Steve Christiansen
> >>>>> Ol Phartz Partz
> >>>>> 714-686-1236
> >>>>> www.olphartz.com
> >>>>> schris51 at att.net
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>   From: Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com>
> >>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America 
> >>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:15 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>>>   
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Steve H.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks are.
> >>>>> ?But let's get practical, gang. ?There are 115 of us.
> >>>>> ??100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less
> >>>>> than??870,000 each!*
> >>>>>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not
> included.
> >>>>> ?Some shipping charges may apply.?
> >>>>>> For our??870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
> >>>>> collector-cars at a value of just??219,000 each. ?I think Steve 
> >>>>> Kirby would be a good one to collect the money. ?He's done this 
> >>>>> for us before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve 
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and 
> >>>>> mail by June 1st. ?Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000 
> >>>>> required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and acting
> chairman.
> >>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Allen
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ****************************************************************
> >>>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder ? ? ? =iii=< Spring Creek Home for 
> >>>>>> Wayward MGs
> >>>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, 
> >>>>>> USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> >>>>>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
> >>>>>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_g
> >>>>>> et_r
> >>>>>> eady_f
> >>>>> or_a_whole_lot_of_fun
> >>>>>> *****************************************************************
> >>>>>> ****
> >>>>>> ******
> >>>>> *******************************************
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!? I have bid $12.79 U.S.
> >>>>> dollars, hoping no one else bids.? This is nuts . . . . and I 
> >>>>> thought a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
> >>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Denti
> >>>>>>> st-c
> >>>>>>> ars-ke
> >>>>> eps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.h
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> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> 
> >>>> Message: 3
> >>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 06:32:06 -0600
> >>>> From: "Mike Coe" <coefront at shaw.ca>
> >>>> To: "List for the Z Magnette Group - North America"
> >>>>  <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>> Message-ID: <F56DF863D69D4638A841A3B65630D172 at OwnerHP>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well guys, thank goodness this fellow thinks as he does towards his 
> >>>> passion towards cars. Think, he?s a rare chap able to purchase 
> >>>> vehicles people can see. Rather than them disappearing into the world
> of rust and non-repair.
> >>>> It?s a person we should thanks' around; otherwise most of these 
> >>>> models would be gone. That he wishes the sum he?s asking isn?t out 
> >>>> of line. Someone wealthy [I wish it were I] will come along and pay 
> >>>> up. Now whether or not the collection will stay as one; as opposed 
> >>>> to being split up in sale following the sale, is a question.
> >>>> But thanks God for blokes like this is all I can say, regardless as 
> >>>> to how he made his lolly. Certainly he?s a clever business man: 
> >>>> something some people like. Others that don?t.
> >>>> But hey....the cars are alive!!!
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Mike ? Calgary
> >>>> Ex-pat.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> From: Steve
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:50 PM
> >>>> To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
> >>>> Subject: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>> 
> >>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!  I have bid $12.79 U.S. 
> >>>> dollars, hoping no one else bids.  This is nuts . . . . and I 
> >>>> thought a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentist-
> >>>> cars-keep 
> >>>> s-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.html
> >>>> 
> >>>> #2SteveK
> >>>> 
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> >>>> 
> >>>> Message: 4
> >>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 6:51:46 -0700
> >>>> From: <webuck1 at cox.net>
> >>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America  
> >>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
> >>>> Message-ID: <20140522095146.7HTT8.605044.imail at fed1rmwml302>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'm in. do you take box tops  for education? Each box top is worth 
> >>>> 10 cents to the school. I have a lot saved for the next school year 
> >>>> but could be put towards these nice cars.
> >>>> Buckey
> >>>> 
> >>>> ---- Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Steve H.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks 
> >>>>>> are.  But let's get practical, gang.  There are 115 of us.
> >>>>>> ?100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less than
> >>>>>> ?870,000 each!*
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not
> included.
> >>>> Some shipping charges may apply.
> >>>>>> For our ?870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
> >>>> collector-cars at a value of just ?219,000 each.  I think Steve 
> >>>> Kirby would be a good one to collect the money.  He's done this for 
> >>>> us before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for 
> >>>> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and 
> >>>> mail by June 1st.  Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000 
> >>>> required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and acting
> chairman.
> >>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Allen
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ****************************************************************
> >>>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
> >>>>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> >>>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA 
> >>>>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> >>>>>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
> >>>>>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_g
> >>>>>> et_
> >>>>>> ready_for_a_whole_lot_of_fun
> >>>>>> *****************************************************************
> >>>>>> ***
> >>>>>> **************************************************
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!  I have bid $12.79 U.S. 
> >>>>>>> dollars,
> >>>> hoping no one else bids.  This is nuts . . . . and I thought a 
> >>>> couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
> >>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Denti
> >>>>>>> st- 
> >>>>>>> cars-keeps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-
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