RE: hands at the exhaust

From: Richard Atherton (Entex) (a-richat(at)MICROSOFT.com)
Date: Mon Jun 23 1997 - 03:01:51 CDT


Jarrid said..."I have never seen an alpine leak coolant into the oil
system, unless a rod had first liberated a water passage."

Well remember my poor worn out engine? The one that had so much blow by
it melted a piston? Well that same engine was letting some of the water
that it was sucking into the cylinder to blow right past the rings into
the oil. And, as I remember, the gasket was bad where the oil comes up
from the block for the rockers, and was leaking into the water jacket
next to it. I could be wrong on this last part, it was 20 years, and
many beers ago.

        After I changed the gaskets, milled and rebuilt the head, there
was no more water out the exhaust or in the oil. The only things that
ended up in the oil were bits a pieces of melted metal 8-(

Rich

> ----------
> From: jarrid_gross(at)juno.com[SMTP:jarrid_gross(at)juno.com]
> Reply To: jarrid_gross(at)juno.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 1997 10:22 PM
> To: fle426(at)nwu.edu
> Cc: alpines(at)autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: hands at the exhaust
>
> Blown Gasketed Alpiners,
>
> On Sun, 22 Jun 1997 19:12:50 -0500 Fred Levit <fle426(at)nwu.edu> writes:
>
> >There is a huge difference between the amount of moisture present
> >at the exhaust pipe of a normally functioning car and one with
> >a leaking head gasket. In the latter case there is a rain of
> >drops, easily felt, striking the palm. There is soon enough
> >fluid to drip off your fingers. This I know because I have
> >experienced it.
>
>
> I too have experienced the old tail pipe faucet scenario, and agree
> that
> if...
>
> 1) the engine and exhaust are hot
>
> 2) The humidity is not too high
>
> The engine very likely has a blow gasket, BUT
>
>
> That gasket likely blew well before the exhaust pipe turned into a
> faucet.
>
>
> On both of my 2 blown head gaskets, my engine gave evidence of
> impending
> doom weeks before major water consumption began.
>
>
> Under load, the radiator temperature would come up rapidly, but fall
> rapidly at idle.
>
> The spillover would pee even with the engine cold.
>
> On one engine, my radiator popped when the combustion gasses made
> there
> way into the cooling system.
>
>
> I have never seen an alpine leak coolant into the oil system, unless a
> rod
> had first liberated a water passage.
>
>
>
> Water (H2O) is one of the two main constituants of the burning of
> hydrocarbons.
>
> 2(CHx) + 3(O2) >= x(H20) + 2x(CO2) "or someting like this"
>
> The H2O is in the form of steam, which can and will condense back to
> liquid
> if the temperature, atmospheric pressure, or humidity shift the vapor
> pressure
> or dew point in favor of the liquid.
>
> This means that when you start a cold engine, expect to see some water
> fallout
> on you hands, or the ground, or whatever else happens to be near the
> exhaust
> pipe.
>
> I would not expect fallout after the engine is up to temp however
> unless
> you
> live in Finland (Lauri?).
>
>
> I dont want any of you to think that a water dropplets from the
> exhaust
> is anything to be too concerned with.
>
>
> There is a definative test that can be performed by most garages, that
> consists of the following...
>
> A special radiator cap is installed, that has a tube comming out of
> it.
> A small hand pump pulls some vapor from the radiator, and pulls the
> vapor
> through a special solution. The solution changes color in the
> presence
> of
> hydrocarbons.
>
> Color changes? Oh Oh.
>
>
> Jarrid Gross
>



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