Re: Lucas shorts

K. Patrick Wheeler (pwheeler(at)ix.netcom.com)
Thu, 07 May 1998 20:21:36 -0700


Andy- I think you, Ron, and Dennis are right, but I am having trouble finding it. I've spent the last two evenings under the dash removing, brushings, and cleaning every ground point I could find in the wiring diagram. I was momentarily elated when the lights came back on, but they went out again within 5 seconds. I've tested the ground with an ohm meter that seems to indicate good ground to the frame from the gage wire. I'm starting to wonder about the voltage regulator (located above the right knee when driving a LHD), but do not have a spare yet to try changing out. I'll keep trying, and thanks for the helpfuls suggestions. -Patrick

Andy Whiteford wrote:

> >On a recent rainy early morning commute my gauge lights started dimming
> >with each beat of the wiper, then the tach maxed out, and all was dark
> >across the dash, the pitch black interior of my 1967 Alpine Series V was
> >relieved only by my high beam indicator which was now flashing and
> >keeping time to the slap of the wiper blades. My apologies to
> >Bulwer-Lytton (sp?) of "It was a dark and stormy night" fame, but I am
> >quite at a loss as to how to even try and track this little fiend down.
> >To make it worse, if I accidentally leave the panel light switch on,
> >after a period of time, the temp and fuel gauges will drop to zero,
> >causing momentary cardiac arrest. The remainder of the electrical
> >system seems to work ok. The electrical system appears relatively in
> >good shape (or at least orginal shape) with things all nice and tidily
> >wrapped up and terribly confusing. Any suggestions would be very much
> >appreciated . . .
> >
> >Patrick Wheeler
>
> Patrick:
>
> as Dennis said, "How about a bad ground under the dash?"
>
> My first thought was that your dash lights, etc, are only earthing through
> your wiper motor!!
>
> >my gauge lights started dimming..
> 1 All the gauges illumination shares a common earth, which loops from
> instrument to instrument then
> to one connection to the dash metal. It's a black wire. You might have a
> dodgy contact or broken wire there somewhere.
>
> >then the tach maxed out,
> 2 well, on my ser III, the (mechanical) tach is only earthed through the
> same lighting earth as the rest of the guages. I'm not sure how the ser V
> tach is earthed. check it !
>
> >high beam indicator which was now flashing
> 3 its supplied from the footswitch hi-beam supply, but, again, its earthed
> directly to the gauge
> so if the gauge isn't well earthed...
>
> >temp and fuel gauges will drop to zero...
> 4 these are the two instruments supplied (green&black?) via the voltage
> regulator. check it (by substitution?), and check it's earthed well by its
> screw to the dash metalwork.
> its under the dash somewhere, don't know exactly where on a LHD ser V. it
> should look like an
> inch long, inch wide metal cylinder. There should be +12v on the
> green&black with the ignition on.
> of course, the reg won't work if it aint earthed.
>
> >with each beat of the wiper
> 5 if I remember correctly, the wiper has a constant ignition-fed supply
> and the *earth* is switched: the motor contact is normally earthed as the
> wiper sweeps most ofthe screen and if the switch is closed, the motor is
> earthed as the blades reach their parked position and off they go again.
> Check the earth wire and contact on both sides of the wiper switch.
>
> excuse any mistakes, its been a few months since I sorted my electrics, and
> I don't have a wiring diagram to hand.
>
> Anyway, I'd start by checking all you earths. clean up the contacts and the
> metal they attach to with some sandpaper. And let us all know how you get
> it sorted. good luck.
>
> Andy (Enough electrics, already. Get on with that welding, will you!)