Maybe my memory is not good any more but I seem to remember the late pump
having a different diameter bolt pattern than the early one due to the fan
clutch.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Bradley <ambradley@yahoo.com>
To: datsunmike <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>; Paul <9laser3@bright.net>
Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: H20 parts (was Re: Water pump sizes.)
> Has anyone figured out exactly which H20 parts are compatible with the
> R16? I haven't seen the waterpump answer yet, but if parts are that
> much cheaper, I have no problem heading down to my local forklift parts
> counter.
>
>
> --- datsunmike <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > I have several waterpumps in my basement new and used and they all
> > have the
> > pulley in the same spot. I have NOS pumps and aftermarket ones.
> >
> > BTW, H20 pumps are about $30 :)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul" <9laser3@bright.net>
> > To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>; "Adam Bradley"
> > <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:45 PM
> > Subject: Water pump sizes.
> >
> >
> > > My guess is that over the life of all the 1600 roadster's,
> > Silver's.
> > > 411SSS's, not to mention H20 blocks, there were 7, maybe 8
> > different water
> > > pumps used. They all have the same foot print but vary in width
> > which
> > will
> > > change the pulley alignment.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > OROC
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: datsunmike <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> > > To: Adam Bradley <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: Datsun Roadster List <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > Date: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: More hints (helpful? I dunno)
> > >
> > >
> > > >Adam,
> > > >
> > > >All the waterpumps have the pulley on the pump in the same place.
> > I used
> > > >late model waterpumps on my 3 main with no problem and the pulleys
> > aligned
> > > >perfectly.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Adam Bradley" <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> > > >Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:53 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: More hints (helpful? I dunno)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> That's all right. It's what I get for not measuring.
> > > >>
> > > >> I debated getting an early water pump, as it doesn't have the
> > shaft
> > > >> extension, but then was concerned that either the pulley
> > wouldn't bolt
> > > >> on, or worse wouldn't line up. My alternator is still in the
> > stock
> > > >> location.
> > > >>
> > > >> The other option is getting rid of the spacer, moving the
> > alternator,
> > > >> and replacing the crankshaft pulley. That would work, but then
> > makes
> > > >> it very difficult to put the smog pump back in should California
> > change
> > > >> its smog check laws.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- datsunmike <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Adam,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sorry, I thought it would fit. It is by far the thinnest
> > electric fan
> > > >> > I know
> > > >> > of and it does fit the rad core like it was made for it. N'est
> > pas?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I moved the rad forward to fit another electric fan I had.
> > There is
> > > >> > no
> > > >> > problem with that. I used 240Z plastic seat spacers :) I moved
> > it
> > > >> > further
> > > >> > forward than you did. The hardware store where I live sells
> > nylon
> > > >> > spacers
> > > >> > which may be able to be used. I would check a hardware store.
> > You can
> > > >> > also
> > > >> > use thick rubber and a punch a hole in them for the bolts.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The final solution is to take off the waterpump spacer but
> > you'll
> > > >> > have to
> > > >> > use an early style waterpump pulley. Then you'll have plenty
> > of
> > > >> > room!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mike
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > From: "Adam Bradley" <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> > > >> > To: "datsun" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > >> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:34 AM
> > > >> > Subject: More hints (helpful? I dunno)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I learned something today - an electric fan (Flex-a-lite
> > 110)
> > > >> > doesn't
> > > >> > > fit in front of the stock late 1600 water pump! And that's
> > with
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > reverse threaded screw off.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I did something that hopefully won't get me in trouble
> > later. I
> > > >> > moved
> > > >> > > the radiator about 1/2" forward by putting washers between
> > between
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > radiator supports and the car body, which moved the radiator
> > > >> > forward.
> > > >> > > With that, I've only got 1/4" or so clearance between the
> > water
> > > >> > pump
> > > >> > > and the fan. The hood still closes...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > All is good now, but I also bought new radiator hoses from
> > my local
> > > >> > > dealer. They fit but do not have the braided cover. The
> > bottom
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> > > is so close to the crankshaft pulley and fan belt that I'm
> > going to
> > > >> > > zip-tie it to the now unused radiator shroud holes.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > OK, now I'm just waiting on new front brakes (pistons,
> > lines, etc.)
> > > >> > so
> > > >> > > I can actually move my car and test this electric fan.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > =====
> > > >> > > Adam
> > > >> > > '70 1600 SPL311-28181
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> > > >>
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>
>
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