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To: jonmac@ndirect.co.uk, greenman62@hotmail.com, beeline@iline.com,
Subject: Standard Triumph
From: TR3197@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:56:39 EST
Mentally I am geared toward , "The Standard Motor Company, Ltd".

At one time this was comprised of "Standard Cars", "Ferguson Tractors", and 
"Triumph Cars" as I understand the history into the late 50s.

But mentally, I have been known to miss a gear from time to time.

However,  I like the appellation "Standard".

(Like "E-Type" sounds a whole lot better than "XKE"....that was one for the 
San Francisco area)

Joe..

Finally.......

The Jack and Joe Show is leaving for Las Vegas Motorspeedway by Wednesday. 
Jack is appearing at one of the lounge shows with his vocal stylings....(we 
are going to set up a lounge in the pits....once again...there has to be FOT 
musical talent coming out of SoCal) The gauntlet has been thrown...again.

Me? I just carry Jack's sheet music and do a little promoting.  

"Here's Jack!!! Straight From Indianpolis Raceway Park-Saturday Night Live". 

Digitally mastered tapes available for $10 of the IRP Entertainment 
Extravanganza.  (IRPEE) 

Tape also includes Top Ten artist from the 50s (VSCDA Chief of Tech), and 
Team Thicko Flounder (Chicago's own Elvis Impersonator) 

I am looking forward to seeing this tape as I was not there. (See the English 
Channel for reason why...Kent and I were in Lost Wages about this 
time...neither of looking for discount coupons for the "Chicken Ranch", I'll 
have you know) 


   
In a message dated 11/15/99 6:20:37 PM, jonmac@ndirect.co.uk wrote:

<<>As I understand it "Triumph" was already a dead donkey when

the "War"

>began... Standard Motors acquired the marque to spruce up

it's rather stodgy

>image and, without looking at my copy of Robson's book, was

producing

>Triumph badged cars  in either 1948 or 1949.



Not too far off the truth. TTBOMK Triumph had been in feast

and famine mode for quite a long time with more of the

famine than the feast. As for Standard buying the company to

improve 'a stodgy image' that sounds a bit like Mr Robson's

usual dig at Standard. Given that the Standard name didn't

enjoy any popularity in North America (that's why the

majority of its products were always badged as Triumphs),

it's worth mentioning that its cars pre-war were far from

stodgy by the norms of the day. As an aside, the Jaguar XK

engine (not in twin cam form) was essentially a Standard

unit. It's also worth mentioning that had it not been for

Standard's (and later Triumph's) CEO John Black, Triumph

would have stayed 'vapourised' as of Nov 14 1940. You won't

find any accolades passed in John Black's direction in any

of Robson's books for the simple fact that GR is clearly not

well-disposed towards him - and I don't think he ever has

been. FWIW, there are a number of former key company people

who do not agree with everything that Robson claims to be

the gospel truth. To my certain knowledge, at least three of

them are on this list and there are a number of other

sympathisers with similar dispositions.


Jonmac


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