I don't twist the head off but I do test them for stretch failure torque.
Their published torque seem to be a little lower than that, but not much
lower.
> From: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:20:10 -0700
> To: 'matt matthews' <mattspit@worldnet.att.net>, Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net>,
> 'EDWARD BARNARD' <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>, fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: flywheel bolt lube?
>
> If you can twist the head of an ARP bolt with any rational torque you're a
> better man than I
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of matt matthews
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 2:02 PM
> To: Joe Curry; 'EDWARD BARNARD'; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: flywheel bolt lube?
>
>
> I can't seem to find my sheets right now but the answer to torqueing with
> locktite can be obtatianed by asking locktite.
>
>> From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
>> Reply-To: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:24:39 -0700
>> To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>,
>> <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: RE: flywheel bolt lube?
>>
>> In lieu of knowing the correct spec for ARP bolts while using locktite
>> instead of their lubricant, I would think that the locktite would
>> accomplish sufficient resistance to the bolts backing off rather than
>> risking twisting off the heads trying to over torque the bolts to an
>> unconfirmed higher rating.
>>
>>
>>
>> But in the end, there is no substitute for knowing the correct specs
>> before doing any tightening.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe (C)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EDWARD BARNARD [mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net]
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:14 PM
>> To: Joe Curry; fot@autox.team.net
>> Subject: RE: flywheel bolt lube?
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe: I agree with you on all but your last comment.The way a bolt
>> holds in place is by torqueing it to the point that the threads
>> distort and hold the bolt in tension. A harder bolt will need to be
>> torqued to a higher point before the threads distort. Torqueing to the
>> normal spec is actually worst than using the original bolts because
>> the hardened bolt will not be held in tension. I have heard different
>> figures ranging from 10 to 25% greater torque. Don't get me lying. I
>> bet Mike Porter knows the figure. Thanks - Ed
>>
>> Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that using ARP fasteners you have 2 things working
>> for you that cause different settings.
>>
>> 1. The fasteners are stronger and therefore will take higher torque
>> settings. 2. It is highly recommended that you use the ARP thread
>> compound that they provide. This is supposed to offer less resistance
>> to the threads and the mating surfaces.
>>
>> If you use Locktite instead of the ARP thread compound, everything
>> above is out the window. I agree that one should use locktite on the
>> flywheel bolts but can't say what torque settings to use. My guess
>> would be to use the recommended book settings and you will probably be
>> OK.
>>
>> Joe (C)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On
>> Behalf Of Rocky Entriken
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 1:08 PM
>> To: Bill Babcock; MJSUKEY@cs.com; fot@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: flywheel bolt lube?
>>
>> Related question---
>>
>> I've always assumed that torque specs using Loctite were the same as
>> the standard torque specs in the book.
>>
>> But using ARP I use different specs, usually higher.
>>
>> True?
>>
>> The only place I've used ARP so far is rod bolts. And then it was
>> because my engine guy told me to -- and he gave me the torque specs.
>>
>> Also, ARP lubricates the bolts going in. Does it also have Loctite
>> properties?
>>
>> --Rocky
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