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Re: [FOT] Total Seal Rings

To: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
Subject: Re: [FOT] Total Seal Rings
From: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:43:49 -1000
Cool--that's a GREAT test. Of course it won't tell us anything about  
horsepower, but I don't really expect to see a big improvement there.

On Jun 15, 2006, at 4:46 AM, Jack W. Drews wrote:

> I've been really interested in the answers you got on this one.
>
> I have used Grant, Hastings, Deves, and Total Seal. I have asked  
> three different machine shops about their results. Two of them said  
> that they had run back-to-back engine dyno runs and had not seen a  
> change in hp, but that has to be taken with a grain of salt,  
> because I don't know how carefully they controlled the other  
> variables. One other shop I said that I would not see a hp increase  
> but the Total Seals would last longer, based on their experiences  
> with circle track racers. They claimed that the rings would  
> maintain a good seal for a longer period of time.
>
> Like the above observations, if you look this subject up on the  
> internet, you get lots and lots of opinions but no data.
>
> But, if you can wait awhile for an answer, I'll give you a real  
> life test -- but you've got to promise not to laugh at this one.
>
> In my current engine, I have Total Seals in two cylinders, Deves in  
> one, and Hastings in one. Last winter I built the engine with Total  
> Seals. I had two engine failures in a row and had to build the  
> engine in a big hurry. I had to put in two new liners and ring  
> sets, and I used up broken sets that I had on the shelf. Since the  
> engine had not been run any length of time with all Total Seals, I  
> figure that the number of hours on all the rings is virtually the  
> same. I've taken compression tests, and after this weekend will  
> take a leakdown test, use it as a baseline, and chart leakdown  
> after every event.
>
> Stay tuned, and remember, you promised not to laugh.
>
>  At 08:43 AM 6/15/2006, you wrote:
>> In a message dated 06/14/2006 9:34:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> oldskooling@yahoo.com writes:
>>
>>
>> > ^keep in mind a lot of these guys are drag race engine builders,  
>> but there
>> > are some pretty "big" names with decades of experience with this  
>> stuff
>> > posting the info. You can take it however you want...
>> >
>>
>> That figures.  The machine shop we use (and who is suggesting this  
>> to our
>> mechanic, Kevin Potter) specializes in Drag Race engines (big in  
>> big block
>> Detroit stuff).  They get a bang out of working on our stuff.
>>
>> Thanks for the comments.
>>
>> Bill Dentinger
>>
>>
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> uncle jack
>
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