I'm finding this a very interesting conversation, particularily since the
welded rear end has entered the topic. I currently race a Spitfire with a
welded rear end and no rear sway bar. The car handles really well. Years ago,
I raced a C Sports Racer that was a converted formula Ford with a welded rear
end. Both cars, but the CSR in particular, need to be driven hard in order to
work right. Driving the CSR at anything less than 95% was difficult due to
terminal understeer. The only way to drive that car was to pitch it into the
corners and hammer the throttle. The Spit is similar, but not nearly as bad.
BTW, the welded rear end is worth about 2 seconds a lap at Portland in both
cars over an open differential. From my experience, the rear bar on most cars
should be used for fine tuning the overall balance. I've done a lot of
analysis of spring and sway bar setups on small formula cars, and the rear bars
typically account for a very small percentage of the overall r!
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Jim Norlin
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From: <triumph_marx@freenet.de>
> The very basic rule is:
> That a front sway bar induce understeer
> and a rear sway bar induce oversteer
>
> A welded diff has a lot understeer when getting into a corner which I don't
> like.
> So I use that rear bar to have a neutral car at the corner entrance and an
> oversteer car when I apply throttle.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Redmond"
> To: ;
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [FOT] Sway Bars
>
>
> > << In addition I have a welded diff so the understeer is close to the edge
> > to be out of control without the rear sway bar.>> Please explain this
> >
> > I have a welded diff. Will I need a rear sway bar? I was going to go with
> > a thick front bar, up to 1" and no rear bar. What is the best "Rule of
> > thumb" for a TR3A?
> >
> > Todd Redmond
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FOT] Sway Bars
> >
> >
> > >I tried this once and I was found several times in the gravel fields when
> > >my car went straight ahead instead of cornering.
> > > In addition I have a welded diff so the understeer is close to the edge
>to
> > > be out of control without the rear sway bar.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > chris
> > >
> > >> Several of the
> > >> TR racers I know used to run an anti-sway bar in the rear, but when they
> > >> removed it they liked it much better, and did not put it back on.
> > >>
> > >> Bill Dentinger
> > >
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